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ImaCannin
21st May 2010, 04:06 PM
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Large Sarge
21st May 2010, 04:08 PM
thats what I heard also, the benzene threat is immense.
I am me, I am free
21st May 2010, 04:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CsxaJ4nBw8&feature=player_embedded
gunDriller
21st May 2010, 04:44 PM
how long does it take for the benzene to dissipate ?
this is serious business.
Ponce
21st May 2010, 05:06 PM
What a shame, I hope that Mother Earth finds a way to get even with us.........
For the past seventy years Mother Earth has had a hard time trying to balance everything in order to keep us safe, but because of our greed and stupidity she is now unable to do so.
I believe that it will be more than just 4-5 billion people that will be gone but more like 6 billions plus..........the end of civilization as we know it.
Quantum
21st May 2010, 07:04 PM
Florida Gulf oil spill: Plans to evacuate Tampa Bay area expected to be announced
This is NOT true. It is criminally reckless to put out such lies (I refer to the original source, not you ImaCannin).
greenbear
21st May 2010, 07:28 PM
I'm not sure how widespread benzene and other toxic chemical exposure would be to gulf coast populations. I'm always skeptical of hype, like with the swine flu, and a dozen other cases of fear-mongering we have seen where not much ever comes of it. I just don't know what I think about that, yet. The effects of vapor exposure, and direct contact with the crude oil as well as chemicals used in clean-up, are apparently extremely dangerous at the very least to the cleanup workers. Here is an article about the effects on clean-up workers from the Exxon Valdez oil spill.
http://www.lvrj.com/news/exxon-valdez-oil-risks-spur-warning-for-gulf-cleanup-crews-93258964.html
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
See 'Silence in the Sound, The Adventure', here.
Merle Savage flips through a roster of Exxon Valdez oil spill cleanup workers Thursday at her North Las Vegas home where she is working on a sequel to her 2003 book "Silence in the Sound." Savage worked on the cleanup after the March 24, 1989, spill.
Gary Thompson/LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
Merle Savage holds pebbles tainted with crude oil on Knight Island, Alaska, in 1993 when she returned to the site of the Exxon Valdez spill in Prince William Sound. The photo is for a new book she is writing, â€ÂEchoes from the Sound.â€Â
Photo courtesy of Merle Savage
Merle Savage
Cleanup crew foreman after 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill says many cleanup workers have died or have become seriously ill
They called it the "Valdez crud," but it was more than a cough and diarrhea.
"We thought it was a flu that was going around and everyÂÂ*body kept getting it," said Merle Savage, who was general foreman of the cleanup crews of the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska's Prince William Sound.
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Instead, the stuff that was making cleanup workers sick was a toxic cocktail of oil droplets in mist they inhaled from spraying the shoreline with hot water and chemicals that were used to disperse the spill's massive black wave.
Now Savage wants today's workers to be aware of similar risks they might face in cleaning up the even bigger BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
Savage, who wrote a book, "Silence in the Sound," about the Exxon Valdez cleanup, recounts those risks as she sits in the upstairs "Alaska Room" of the North Las Vegas home where she now lives with her son and daughter-in-law.
Many of the thousands of Exxon Valdez cleanup workers have died or have become seriously ill from inhaling the toxic mist and handling dispersants that contained benzene and other chemicals.
Of dozens of lawsuits that were filed by sick workers, seven were settled out of court and the records have been sealed.
One cleanup chemical, 2-Butoxyethanol, can be absorbed through the skin and cause blood and kidney damage resulting in headaches, respiratory problems and even death, according to the material safety data sheet for the dispersant, INIPOL, which was used in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez spill.
After she wrote her book in 2003, Savage teamed up with marine toxicologist Riki Ott to warn about the dangers involved with cleaning up oil spills. In a video with Ott, Savage described the shoreline cleanup as being "like a war zone."
"What we know now is the oil is 1,000 times more toxic than we thought," Savage said. "The BP spill is going to be worse. I'm warning workers to understand how toxic the crude oil can be."
Savage's personal experience is that the ill effects have lingered for years.
"When I came to Las Vegas in 1995, I was sick. I had bronchial problems," she said. "I lived with extreme diarrhea day in and day out for years."
During that time she has had severe pain in her joints and underwent a biopsy for a spot on her liver.
"They said I was an alcoholic, but I don't drink and I don't smoke," she said.
While pain pills and other medications didn't work for her problems, Savage researched some natural remedies.
"I found out about toxic chemicals and detoxed myself with a lemon juice concoction," she said. "And I sleep on a blanket with magnets in it. It gets your system back in shape.
After the Exxon Valdez ran aground on March 24, 1989, Savage signed on to be a cleanup worker.
"I worked two weeks on the spill, holding a hose with hot water gushing out and steam coming up," she said. "At first we didn't have masks. But later on we had paper masks that wouldn't last a day.
"There was crude oil and dead seaweed all around. The smell from that was horrible."
The rain gear workers wore would be cleaned using a solution that contained benzene and other chemicals, Savage said.
She eventually was promoted to the post of general foreman.
Even though workers would become sick, most didn't want to be sent from the boats and barges back to Valdez because they didn't want to lose their jobs.
"Everybody on my barge was complaining and throwing up," she said. "Even I was sick."
Before she left her boat at the end of the cleanup, she kept computer printouts of the workers' roster.
Little did she know then that the names would become a valuable resource in her effort to make them and their families aware of the toxic exposures they endured.
"I've had children who had parents who were cleanup workers and brothers, too. I know of 30 people who have contacted me since," Savage said.
"Thousands of people are suffering from the Valdez cleanup with no compensation. And there were Exxon officials on each barge. I knocked heads with a couple of them."
Ponce
21st May 2010, 07:32 PM
Dear Mr. Bear...........the heat of the sun warming up the fuel is where the real danger lies........as long as it is cold the fuel will be, more or less, dormant. It will be a hot and sticky summer for many.
greenbear
21st May 2010, 07:40 PM
This video says that of the 1,800 on-site crew, 27% experienced nervous or respiratory symptoms from chemical and toxic vapor exposure at the time. It doesn't say how many people became sick years later, as a result. Just like with the police, firemen, other emergency personnel, and the people who escaped the building, or were even in the vicinity on 911, the statistics for those who later died from the effects of the poisonous air are suppressed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CWCPYyvf10
greenbear
21st May 2010, 07:44 PM
Dear Mr. Bear...........the heat of the sun warming up the fuel is where the real danger lies........as long as it is cold the fuel will be, more or less, dormant. It will be a hot and sticky summer for many.
My understanding so far is that the benzene dissipates within 72 hours. Except in heat, in which it happens almost instantaneously. I don't know if it happens while the oil is in the water, or if only when it washes ashore. And I don't know how it dissipates in the air, or how poisonous it is to populations miles away. I'm trying to find out. Do you know? I'm not a Mister. :)
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