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Ponce
22nd May 2010, 11:41 AM
We Are Witnessing A Marine Life Mass-Murder.

Tags: COVER-UP/DECEPTIONS/PROPAGANDA CURRENT EVENTS SCIENCE/HEALTH/CLIMATE/NATURE
Massive underwater oil plumes = no oxygen.
No oxygen in the water = dead fish and dead mammals.
2+2 = 4.
And any Liberal/Progressive group saying Obama ‘inherited’ this, or is somehow exempt from any type of criticism: TAKE A HIKE!
And any Conservative/Republican group saying the oil companies ‘aren’t to blame’ — or trying to lessen the worth of animal life or downplay the importance of our ecosystems: TAKE A HIKE!
MY HIKE REQUESTS ARE BIPARTISAN!!!!!!!!!!

And they have no clue how to stop this thing, slow down this thing, they have not a single effing clue!

Link to Article (http://heidilore.wordpress.com/2010/05/22/we-are-witnessing-a-marine-life-mass-murder/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)


EDIT: Changed long link to named link to prevent horizontal scrolling. -Gaillo

keehah
23rd May 2010, 12:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOkPGnaXsg8

Large Sarge
23rd May 2010, 12:11 PM
Way Way Back, I posted the study showing that ozone breaks up oil in the water

no dispersants needed, just bubble ozone

Ozone is how nature cleans things.

Plants and Animals are not harmed by ozone, like chemicals.

Ozone is simply O3, it lasts in that for about 30 minutes or so, depending on temperature, sunlight, etc

and then it breaks down to just normal oxygen (increasing the oxygen level of the surrounding ocean)

this is not high tech, or expensive.

a million bucks would buy a LOT of ozone machines.

EE_
23rd May 2010, 12:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwsKg6LwAuY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MjoPzQUKCU&NR=1

gunDriller
23rd May 2010, 12:42 PM
i wonder if it will ever reach the Pacific.

if it keeps going for a year, maybe less, it will poison the Atlantic.

http://www.theoildrum.com/

/\ one of the best places to get information, where the geologists, geophysicists, etc. hang out.

"What caused the Deepwater Horizon disaster?"
http://www.theoildrum.com/pdf/theoildrum_6493.pdf

one of their more interesting explanations.

from reading those articles, i get the impression the outflow is in the range 25,000 to 50,000 barrels a day. call it 40,000 barrels per day.

i wonder if they would consider mounting an operation to keep the oil in the Gulf. basically walling off the mouth of the Caribbean to keep the oil in.

it would involve constructing a wall several hundred miles. but, China did that hundreds of years ago. the wall would be underwater, instead of brick like you always see in pictures of China's Great Wall.

it's probably fair to say, it's better to poison just the Caribbean, than the Caribbean the Atlantic and the Pacific.


actually, one of the more sober suggestions i've heard has been from Kevin Costner. he financed his scientist friend or brother to create a floating station that uses centrifuges that separate oil and water, inspired by the Exxon Valdez. they are actually deploying some of them in the Gulf. Costner sunk about $27 million into the project, and that will by a lot of engineering time if the engineers are motivated and have good managers.

it's not rocket science, just a contraption which floats and has a centrifuge and a pump. obviously it's powered somehow, my guess is, with a gas or diesel engine.

General of Darkness
23rd May 2010, 12:43 PM
The infuriating part about this whole mess is that BP and all oil companies are making money hand over fist. And this disaster, which I believe will be global, was caused because they wanted to reduce costs. The most frustrating part is that I know what the answer is, but I'm just one man.

gunDriller
23rd May 2010, 02:25 PM
The infuriating part about this whole mess is that BP and all oil companies are making money hand over fist. And this disaster, which I believe will be global, was caused because they wanted to reduce costs. The most frustrating part is that I know what the answer is, but I'm just one man.


if BP stands by their promise of paying all the clean-up costs for this disaster, they won't have any more profits.

to me the dispersants they are using seem like a very bad choice. it looks like the spill will release enough benzene to cause the evacuation of some coastal communities. also that the hurricanes will wash the oil and create a real mess on land.

although it is very labor intensive, the booms corraling the oil on the water, the workers cleaning up the oil on the beach, it accomplishes the objective - it removes oil from the environment & sequesters the oil.

i don't trust BP & the company that made the dispersant to fully disclose the environmental effects of their chemical, partially because they don't know, and partially because it impedes the process of selling expensive chemicals.

when BP uses the dispersants, it's not because they plan on removing the oil from the environment. it's because they plan on leaving the oil & the dispersant in the Gulf.

i think it's much better to have the oil as a blob of oil & water - that can be sucked up into super-tankers - that's much better than basically dissolving it with a water-soluble molecule - because that guarantees that the resulting chemical mess will be spread all over the ocean.

EE_
23rd May 2010, 02:30 PM
i think it's much better to have the oil as a blob of oil & water - that can be sucked up into super-tankers - that's much better than basically dissolving it with a water-soluble molecule - because that guarantees that the resulting chemical mess will be spread all over the ocean.


China couldn't have done it any better...they are jealous!
Make a toxic mess and send it somewhere else, is the name of the game.

Ponce
23rd May 2010, 02:33 PM
Mr. Gun...........there will be no "clean up" it is now to widely disperse all over the ocean.........and as soon as it hits the surface of the water it will evaporate and circle the Earth.........and dropping down when ever it feels like.