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Large Sarge
25th May 2010, 07:07 AM
http://moneyteachers.org/Korea.htm

Sinking another country's ship is considered an act of war. Examples include "The Maine", "Lusitania", Pearl Harbor and the Tonkin Gulf. I realize that these were either permitted or "False Flags". Yet, they did provide the pretext for the Spanish American War, World War I, WWII and Vietnam.


North Korea's sinking of a South Korean vessel was also an act of war. Based on the response of the United States and South Korea, it appears to have had the desired effect.


"WASHINGTON - The White House said Monday that President Barack Obama "fully supports" the South Korean president and his response to the torpedo attack by North Korea that sank a South Korean naval ship.


In a statement, the White House said Seoul can continue to count on the full backing of the United States and said U.S. military commanders had been told to work with their South Korean counterparts "to ensure readiness and to deter future aggression."


The administration said it endorsed President Lee Myung-bak's demand that "North Korea immediately apologize and punish those responsible for the attack, and, most importantly, stop its belligerent and threatening behavior." (Source)




North Korea is China's "bad cop". Kim Il Sung is a Chinese puppet that won't take his shoes off without consulting with the Chinese. It is safe to conclude that China is behind this latest act of aggression. It is also worth noting that our current Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton and our current President relied on Communist Chinese money to get where they are today. Bill Clinton's generosity towards the Chinese with our military technology and his indifference towards the protestors who died at Tiananmen Square are more than enough evidence of a major "sell-out" to the Chi-coms.


The Republican Party is also in bed with the Communist Chinese through their involvement with Sun Myung Moon and his Unification Church:


"Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church, says he is the Messiah of the Second Coming and that his family is the first true family in all history! (His followers have been nicknamed "Moonies.") He is also the power behind an international network which includes more than 350 closely affiliated companies worldwide (280 of them in the U.S.), including the Washington Times, the International Cultural Foundation, the Washington Institute for Values and Public Policy, Paragon House Publishers, the Christian Bernard jewelry chain, and Happy World toy and clothing outlets. Other Unification Church' holdings include the following:


* Political groups: American Freedom Coalition, CAUSU USA, CAUSU International, American Leadership Conference, American Constitution Committee, Association for the Unity of Latin America.


* Media organizations: News World Communications, New York City Tribune, Insight Magazine, World Media Association.


* Businesses: One Up Enterprises, U.S. Property Development, International Oceanic Enterprises.


* Religious organizations: 55 principal worship centers (two in California, Texas and New York, one in every other state, D.C., and Puerto Rico), and 206 additional churches" (Source)




While Moon claims he is anti-Communist, he proudly proclaims that Socialism is God's government on earth, built an auto assembly plant in Communist China and maintained close ties with Communist Russia. He has also stated that "The Soviet Union will be at the center of God's providence in the next century." (Ibid)


The Illuminati want the forces of the East to war with the West as part of their population reduction program. It is doubtful that Clinton's visit to China is anything more than a way to determine how this war is to be carried out. This is an interesting prophecy I found from a Mrs. Sols Guardisto made in 1923:


"I saw next international war break out with its center upon the Pacific Ocean, but sweeping and encircling the whole globe. I saw that the opposing forces were roughly divided by so-called Christianity on one side, and by the so-called followers of Mohammed and Buddha upon the other. I saw the great driving power within these so-called Christian Nations was the Great Apostasy in all its political, social, and religious aspects. I saw the world-wide dislocation and devastation of production and slaughter of people occur more swiftly and upon a larger scale than ever before...


I saw the international world war automatically break down, and national revolutions occur in every country and complete the work of chaos and desolation. I saw geological disturbances occur, which helped in this work as if it were intended to do so. I saw the international boundary line disappear as these two governments (Canada-US) broke up and dissolved into chaos. I saw race rioting upon this American continent on a vast scale.


I saw hunger and starvation in this world granary of the American continent sweep off vast numbers of the conflicting elements. I saw disease produced by hunger, strife, and chaos complete the end of this present order or epoch…" (Source)




This revelation was given in 1923, yet it eerily predicts our current situation and foretells our likely future. War creates hardship and chaos. Chaos leads to violent revolution. The Russian Revolution resulted from the country's involvement in World War I. The French revolution resulted from the ongoing wars between France and England. The American revolution from the same causes.


"Out of Chaos, Order" is the Illuminati mantra. The Phoenix rising up from the ashes of a ruined world. A world destroyed by war and violent revolution. Yet, this time, they will not be able to control the flames they have kindled. The plan of destruction they have so carefully pieced together for humanity will ultimately engulf both them and their minions.

Libertarian_Guard
25th May 2010, 07:24 AM
WWIII, I don't think so.

The good thing about nuclear weapons, is how they make for an automatic standoff. Nuclear war is referred to as the unthinkable for good reason. There can be no winners in nuclear war. Only losers.

And btw what evidence do you have supporting your thesis that Israel is involved in this? Is this a joke? Are you being sarcastic, saying that some people will blame Israel for everything that goes wrong in this world?

EE_
25th May 2010, 07:30 AM
WWIII, I don't think so.

The good thing about nuclear weapons, is how they make for an automatic standoff. Nuclear war is referred to as the unthinkable for good reason. There can be no winners in nuclear war. Only losers.

And btw what evidence do you have supporting your thesis that Israel is involved in this? Is this a joke? Are you being sarcastic, saying that some people will blame Israel for everything that goes wrong in this world?


I'd like to answer your question with a question...
Do you think anything in this world goes on without Israel, Rothschilds, Goldman Sachs knowing about it first?

Large Sarge
25th May 2010, 07:38 AM
And btw what evidence do you have supporting your thesis that Israel is involved in this? Is this a joke? Are you being sarcastic, saying that some people will blame Israel for everything that goes wrong in this world?


its the use of a german torpedo

do you think torpedos are just "inter changeable" in different subs.

Take a .45 round and load it into your .38 and see how well that goes for you

plus you have various guidance systems on torpedoes, that are linked to the submarine

most torpedoes are "smart" they are not "fire and forget" like 50 years ago

Libertarian_Guard
25th May 2010, 08:01 AM
If there is big money to be made, I'm sure Sacks of gold is in there ringing the register. But I don't see how they could be involved with orchestrating the military (navy's) of two different countries into pulling off all this? High ranking officers are looking forward to their retirement, many would have broken ranks and ran for cover before stepping into this $hit.

Large Sarge
25th May 2010, 08:07 AM
If there is big money to be made, I'm sure Sacks of gold is in there ringing the register. But I don't see how they could be involved with orchestrating the military (navy's) of two different countries into pulling off all this? High ranking officers are looking forward to their retirement, many would have broken ranks and ran for cover before stepping into this $hit.


same playbook as 9/11

likely the S. Korean team of investigators, was being lead by an insider/ paid flunkie (like chertoff steered 9/11 investigation)


once you control the investigation, its pretty easy to get the answers you want, and they own the media, so there it goes.

everything is so compartmentalized, and the military "just follow orders" mentality, that most do not have a clue what is going on

mick silver
25th May 2010, 08:19 AM
i bet there going to start something ... the war machine needs money ... i mean the rich need money

Libertarian_Guard
25th May 2010, 08:25 AM
LargeSarge

Everything you've said is possible, albeit a really long shot, but possible.

We'll see how things play out. Going forward I think it will be nothing more that rhetoric and saber rattling lending credence to the likely story that N. Korea sank the ship with their torpedo.

But I don't know. I'm just sitting here, reading stuff on line same as you. But I conclude that most bad events are not conspiracy's.

Large Sarge
25th May 2010, 08:27 AM
the only thng N. Korea has ever wanted in the past, is more money

now that other link was posted, and N. Korea is not even claiming the attack

how does N. Korea Benefit?

Libertarian_Guard
25th May 2010, 08:36 AM
LargeSarge

I see it as retaliation for the last few high seas skirmishes between the two Korea's that sent the north scurrying back to port with shot-up ships and dead sailors.

Large Sarge
25th May 2010, 08:42 AM
LargeSarge

I see it as retaliation for the last few high seas skirmishes between the two Korea's that sent the north scurrying back to port with shot-up ships and dead sailors.


the fact that a german torpedo was used, points toward Israel

and this is way to engage China indirectly

and to bring some of the pacific empire under control again (loss of U.S. bases in Japan, etc)

Japan has turned more to China than the U.S.

at least one of their politicians has talked openly about 9/11 being a fraud


so where is the payoff for N. Korea?

N. Korea does pretty much whatever China says, and China is way to clever/subtle to use this kind of tactic

undgrd
25th May 2010, 08:52 AM
If the information about it being a German torpedo is accurate, we need to ask the Germans publicly why they fired on the S.K. vessel.

When they're finished denying involvement, we ask them who else could have possibly fired a German made torpedo?


Either they'll claim responsibility to keep up the charade or, they'll PUBLICLY inform (remind) everyone of the German subs Israel has.


Edit: Are there any other entities that are in possession of German made subs besides Germany and Israel?

cigarlover
25th May 2010, 09:45 AM
Has N korea denied they did this?

Ponce
25th May 2010, 09:55 AM
Yes Cigar...........they even wanted to inspect the ship and see the reports made by the inspectors............but of course the state of Israel by way of the US said NO.

First post of the day..........good morning to one and all.

jedemdasseine
25th May 2010, 09:58 AM
WWIII?

I doubt it.

Neuro
25th May 2010, 12:49 PM
WWIII?

I doubt it.



historians may state in the future that WWIII started Sept 11, 2001, with a false flag attack, and that it was escalated by another false flag attack in Korea 2010...

The smoking guns:
1) the first analysis showed that the chemical signature of the explosives showed that it was from a German made torpedo. In the subsequent analysis, they had found parts from a NK torpedo (if it was that), but no mention whatsoever about chemical signature on ship parts... Someone could have just dumped the leftovers of the NK torpedo at the site, like a passport in the 9/11 rubble.

2) North Korea denied that they had anything to do with the sinking... They could have easily blamed the sinking on the vessel was on NK territory (even though it is disputed territory)... Almost always before they have claimed it as a triumphant victory against the imperialists, not this time. Are we supposed to believe that they have changed tune?

jedemdasseine
25th May 2010, 12:53 PM
WWIII?

I doubt it.



historians may state in the future that WWIII started Sept 11, 2001, with a false flag attack, and that it was escalated by another false flag attack in Korea 2010...

The smoking guns:
1) the first analysis showed that the chemical signature of the explosives showed that it was from a German made torpedo. In the subsequent analysis, they had found parts from a NK torpedo (if it was that), but no mention whatsoever about chemical signature on ship parts... Someone could have just dumped the leftovers of the NK torpedo at the site, like a passport in the 9/11 rubble.

2) North Korea denied that they had anything to do with the sinking... They could have easily blamed the sinking on the vessel was on NK territory (even though it is disputed territory)... Almost always before they have claimed it as a triumphant victory against the imperialists, not this time. Are we supposed to believe that they have changed tune?


Taking a longer view, yeah, I can see this.

cigarlover
25th May 2010, 01:04 PM
If it wasnt NK then I would expect China to get involved. I do think China still has a pretty tight leash on em. In that repsect I guess it could lead to WW3 but as I said earlier, NK and SK have always been in a stalemate so if either of them fire they both unload everything they have stockpiled on the borders and this is over quickly. Where it goes from there is anyones guess.

Neuro
25th May 2010, 01:15 PM
If it wasnt NK then I would expect China to get involved. I do think China still has a pretty tight leash on em. In that repsect I guess it could lead to WW3 but as I said earlier, NK and SK have always been in a stalemate so if either of them fire they both unload everything they have stockpiled on the borders and this is over quickly. Where it goes from there is anyones guess.

I think China is pretty tired of their dirty poor nose picking cousins to the east with the begging bowl... China will get the security control of united Korea... And it will be run like Hong Kong, but with no Chinese involvement in internal affairs. They are pragmatic, and they get US out of their border.

EE_
25th May 2010, 01:20 PM
Does anyone think N Korea wants a war? I mean their whole population has done nothing but train and ready for war?
Another thought...is it possible China supports N Korea?

Quantum
25th May 2010, 01:50 PM
North Korea has no motivation for initiating World War III, since every possible scenario results in the END of the "Democratic People's Republic" of Korea.