Alert...........alert..................alert.

[Ponce]

Oil "leak" now a crater 50 feet wide and 30 below sea level.......now oil coming out like a VOLCANO..........didn't know how to show it here.....please find and post, thanks.

[Ponce]

Found one link.......live.

Link to Video (http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html)


EDIT: Changed long link to named link to prevent horizontal scrolling. -Gaillo

[Gangsta99]

Ponce this shit is turning me into a wreck worrying about my family and friends and how bad things are gonna get. I missed the past 2 days of work feeling really ill from this. Thankfully I am taking the time to follow through on some preps and hopefully can make it to this weekend to get a few grand of preps stashed at my BOL for the family.

[General of Darkness]

Things are F'd beyond belief. I don't think we'll understand the complete affects for decades. :boohoo

[Ponce]

A better link...........live.

Link to Video (http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html)

LIVE............WORKING ON THE WELL.


EDIT: Changed long link to named link to prevent horizontal scrolling. -Gaillo

[Chibioz]

Here's another stream of one of the leaks.. not the same as above. You can't see them working.

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3&hpt=T1

[Ponce]

One more time........."Many deaths will there be because of this".

[zap]

50' wide where do you see that? I can't make any of these videos work !

[7th trump]

What they need to do now is build a enormous solid blum-bob and drop it in the hole in hopes to seal off the crater and fill in behind it tons and tons of builders and cement on top of that.
If the hole gets deeper the blum pop just sinks until it stops.
The best thing now is to let it get big so objects can be lowered into the hole and cemented off.
One huge gigantic plug.

[Ponce]

They killed the live video..........all that they are showing is old tapes.

"They will tell you only what they want you to know, or what they cannot longer hide" ... Ponce

[7th trump]

They killed the live video..........all that they are showing is old tapes.

"They will tell you only what they want you to know, or what they cannot longer hide" ... Ponce

Are you sure?
I'm watching just fine.

Also,
we dont know for sure if it really is 50 ft wide.
This says:

Please be aware, this is a live stream and may freeze or be unavailable from time to time.

Throughout the extended top kill procedure – which may take up to two days to complete - very significant changes in the appearance of the flows at the seabed may be expected. These will not provide a reliable indicator of the overall progress, or success or failure, of the top kill operation as a whole. BP will report on the progress of the operation as appropriate and on its outcome when complete

[Bullion_Bob]

I watched the guy operating the ROV arms dick around with a plastic twist tie for 10 minutes trying to break it off. He twisted it so many times it wound it on tighter in the opposite direction, and took forever to wind it back.

Personally I think they are just moving shit around trying to make it look like they are doing something.

In reality it's a huge fat guy wearing inch thick glasses stuffing his face with a foot long sandwich while toking a spliff.

[Ponce]

You can see the crate and much more on TimeBomb2000.........

[7th trump]

You can see the crate and much more on TimeBomb2000.........

Whats timebomb2000?

[Ponce]

Everything now is a repeat, nothing new.........I can only wonder what they are now trying to hide...........probably a lot worse than when I first saw it.

[Bullion_Bob]

You can see the crate and much more on TimeBomb2000.........

Whats timebomb2000?


http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?s=f05cf0848f3b42bef0b72870bca29bba&t=362314

[Horn]

Well, if it's a collapse that means it should be tappering off soon, no?

Huh, reminds me of Silver in 08. :-\

[Ponce]

No horn............looking at a recorded view of when it happen, from a water hose to a volcano in ten minutes........I say about 10-15 times worse than before.

[Gaillo]

Here's a still image of the crater with oil volcano that Ponce is talking about:

[zap]

Thankyou Bullion_Bob


What a Mess, How much more can the gulf take.

[Bullion_Bob]

I bet they tried to pump some cement/mud in there, pressure built up, and it popped the hole open bigger.

That's probably what they are showing now...pre recorded footage the pipe they used to fill in the hole that actually ended up making it worse.

[Horn]

This was titled bad-2

[goldmonkey]

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3070/glpoilboom.gif

[StackerKen]

wow :o...thanks for that goldmonkey

[Horn]

No horn............looking at a recorded view of when it happen, from a water hose to a volcano in ten minutes........I say about 10-15 times worse than before.


I guess that's what you'd call, get'er dun?

[Bullion_Bob]

Youtube vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PASvown8rFM

[Carbon]

You can see the crate and much more on TimeBomb2000.........

Whats timebomb2000?


http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?s=f05cf0848f3b42bef0b72870bca29bba&t=362314


Site just went down.

[Bullion_Bob]

Wait....no it's back on and current.

Currently they are trying to unscrew a round bolt with the ROV arm , and failing miserably at it, so they gave up.


Round headed bolts. Who need bolt edges anyways, all that friction and grab getting in the way!

[Ponce]

Thanks monkey.........that's the one that I wanted for people to see, from "nothing" to everything..................what a freaking disaster.

[Ponce]

Don't forget that you also have the under the ocean sea current that go as fast as 60 mph..........it will take the oil a longgggggg way an on its way kill all that on its path.

[Horn]

I imagine in a top kill method it may appear to be worse at time, but over time it would slow to a trickle then eventually stop.

I have faith all will be fixed in the morning, sleep well.

[Buddha]

Wait....no it's back on and current.

Currently they are trying to unscrew a round bolt with the ROV arm , and failing miserably at it, so they gave up.


Round headed bolts. Who need bolt edges anyways, all that friction and grab getting in the way!



yeah, I saw that too, can't unscrew a bolt at 5,000 feet, how will this whole horrible toxic spewing volcano thing be solved?

Like Ponce said alot of people are gonna die from this, quite possibly me I'm young yet.

[Bullion_Bob]

One stop oil spill disaster news portal complete with spill counter:

http://www.wkrg.com/gulf_oil_spill/


The top kill involves 6.5 and 3 inch wide pipes to inject mud and cement. My guess is this will take several days at that diameter, and most likely just blow back out of the hole.

I'll be seriously amazed if it works at all.

[Buddha]

I'm completely ignorant when dealing with engineering and math (heheh) but how would the nuclear option even work? Something tells me that that could make it much more worse

[Horn]

Now the robot looks like me on Saturday night in bed with my girlfriend after having too many beers. ;D

[Ponce]

By the way, they "think" that forty gallons every three seconds is going out.

I don't get Horn? your wife looks like the robot? or the robot looks like your wife? after a few beers? hummmmmmmmmmmm, I'll never get married again.

[Horn]

It appears they are having some trouble with gettin it in the hole. :-\

I know it's a grievous situation, I'm sorry...

BP at the controls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OepZVKYEYc

[sirgonzo420]

I watched the guy operating the ROV arms dick around with a plastic twist tie for 10 minutes trying to break it off. He twisted it so many times it wound it on tighter in the opposite direction, and took forever to wind it back.

Personally I think they are just moving sh*t around trying to make it look like they are doing something.

In reality it's a huge fat guy wearing inch thick glasses stuffing his face with a foot long sandwich while toking a spliff.


Wow.

That's exactly the impression I got.

LOL.

[Bullion_Bob]

I watched the guy operating the ROV arms dick around with a plastic twist tie for 10 minutes trying to break it off. He twisted it so many times it wound it on tighter in the opposite direction, and took forever to wind it back.

Personally I think they are just moving sh*t around trying to make it look like they are doing something.

In reality it's a huge fat guy wearing inch thick glasses stuffing his face with a foot long sandwich while toking a spliff.


Wow.

That's exactly the impression I got.

LOL.


As well, they're probably ticked that nobody likes their idea to stuff the hole with dolphin carcasses. ;D

[keehah]

Thanks Goldmonkey.

Saw what I thought I would, the plume was carried by the current directly into the camera for a few seconds.

Like getting smoked at a campfire.

Still a disaster none the less.

[AndreaGail]

holy sh** :o

thats all i have

[Neuro]

The riser pipe is about 22' diameter. The plume appears to be about 4-5 times that. I would say at least a barrel a second is coming out eyeballing the flow, more probably 5, maybe 10-20.... So at least about a 100.000 barrels per day, probably half a million barrels or maybe even more than a million...

We are screwed!

[Grand Master Melon]

While I generally stand opposed to "over regulation" (a subjective term) I wonder what market anarchists and the like think about situations like this.

As far as I'm concerned this is enough proof that we (humans) have zero business drilling for oil anywhere but on land. This sure makes the "drill baby drill" crowd look like a bunch of morons.

[Quantum]

BP statement:

"Throughout the extended top kill procedure – which may take up to two days to complete - very significant changes in the appearance of the flows at the seabed may be expected. These will not provide a reliable indicator of the overall progress, or success or failure, of the top kill operation as a whole. BP will report on the progress of the operation as appropriate and on its outcome when complete."

From the bottom of this link (the "live" feed):

Link to Video Stream (http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html)


EDIT: Changed long link to named link to prevent horizontal scrolling. -Gaillo

[UFM]

it is no coincidence that the attack happened in the gulf of MEXICO!! Wake up people! Mexico is the real enemy not Arabia!

Bin Laden is really a mexican and they have been attacking us since 9/11. 9/11 was a mexican job and this oil rig attack was also a mexican job.

[Awoke]

Being a westerner, with all the comforts it provides, easily allows a person to forget that the earth is spewing it's lifes-blood at an ever-increasing pace. Here at my computer desk, I forget that this is going on at all. Even over the weekend, when swimming in a fresh water lake, I don't think of it at all.

Our pampered complacency will be the end of us all. This oil well is bad news. Revelations-type stuff.

[SHTF2010]

somewhere, a long time ago,
i read that it only takes 1 quart/litre of oil to contaminate an olympic sized swimming pool full of water

that does not bode well for the Gulf of Mexico

and if this " leak " was done on purpose,

we should be brainstorming the " why "

[SHTF2010]

Our pampered complacency will be the end of us all .



another addition for my GSUS quotes file

[Carbon]

While I generally stand opposed to "over regulation" (a subjective term) I wonder what market anarchists and the like think about situations like this.

As far as I'm concerned this is enough proof that we (humans) have zero business drilling for oil anywhere but on land. This sure makes the "drill baby drill" crowd look like a bunch of morons.


Well, we could use Wind power - but there's always the possibility that birds might be killed by the rotors.

Feh...

[Ifyouseekay]

it is no coincidence that the attack happened in the gulf of MEXICO!! Wake up people! Mexico is the real enemy not Arabia!

Bin Laden is really a mexican and they have been attacking us since 9/11. 9/11 was a mexican job and this oil rig attack was also a mexican job.


Can you show some evidence of this? I've not heard this theory before, but am always open to what others have to say.

[jaybone]

While I generally stand opposed to "over regulation" (a subjective term) I wonder what market anarchists and the like think about situations like this.


In my free market paradise,
the residents of the gulf states and anyone that could prove tangible injury from this spill would be the proud owner of 100% of BP's worldwide assets. Forfeited in a court of Common Law. Payable as a dividend check distributed monthly in perpetuity.

And the entire board of directors along with anybody involved with this particular accident would be made to labor as rotating butlers to coastal residents.

[Large Sarge]

While I generally stand opposed to "over regulation" (a subjective term) I wonder what market anarchists and the like think about situations like this.


In my free market paradise,
the residents of the gulf states and anyone that could prove tangible injury from this spill would be the proud owner of 100% of BP's worldwide assets. Forfeited in a court of Common Law. Payable as a dividend check distributed monthly in perpetuity.

And the entire board of directors along with anybody involved with this particular accident would be made to labor as rotating butlers to coastal residents.




common law is the best legal system ever developed

[jaybone]

[/quote]

common law is the best legal system ever developed


[/quote]

And the only Lawful one, but that is another thread

[Large Sarge]

James Carville Begging the President "please do something"

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/james-carvilles-oil-outburst-10746347

I guess I am uncertain if he fell off his script on GMA? or is a very good actor?

From his accent, seems like he is a local native to new orleans.

Got to be emotional to see a place you love getting a slow motion death sentence.

anyone? Carvelle a good actor following the script, or did he slip for a moment?

[k-os]

James Carville Begging the President "please do something"

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/james-carvilles-oil-outburst-10746347

I guess I am uncertain if he fell off his script on GMA? or is a very good actor?

From his accent, seems like he is a local native to new orleans.

Got to be emotional to see a place you love getting a slow motion death sentence.

anyone? Carvelle a good actor following the script, or did he slip for a moment?



Looks real to me. Considering his political leanings, I would imagine it was not in the script to get upset with Obama. He's really pissed.

I am surprised more people aren't really pissed at Obama for his lack of involvement, considering the slashing that Bush took for his lack of prompt response to Katrina.

[7th trump]

While I generally stand opposed to "over regulation" (a subjective term) I wonder what market anarchists and the like think about situations like this.


In my free market paradise,
the residents of the gulf states and anyone that could prove tangible injury from this spill would be the proud owner of 100% of BP's worldwide assets. Forfeited in a court of Common Law. Payable as a dividend check distributed monthly in perpetuity.

And the entire board of directors along with anybody involved with this particular accident would be made to labor as rotating butlers to coastal residents.




common law is the best legal system ever developed



The problem with that is the "Common Law" was removed and replaced with roman "Civil Law" a long time ago.
Good luck with your quest to find a common law court to uphold your beleif system.

[Chibioz]

An article I read this morning quoted a bp spokesperson as saying that the upcoming "Top Kill" attempt will have a 50-60% chance of success. Another guy said it's 50/50.

I think that those both sound optimistic, but that will be something to watch for. I believe that they are to attempt it today and they claim it will be streamed live.

[gunDriller]

Wait....no it's back on and current.

Currently they are trying to unscrew a round bolt with the ROV arm , and failing miserably at it, so they gave up.

Round headed bolts. Who need bolt edges anyways, all that friction and grab getting in the way!

maybe it's an anti-vandalism feature.

all those vandalous crabs on the sea floor ... @ 5000 feet.

[Ponce]

No matter what happens today.........the disaster was started yesterday.

[keehah]

While I generally stand opposed to "over regulation" (a subjective term) I wonder what market anarchists and the like think about situations like this.

According to 'regulation' BP is only on the hook for 75 million, perhaps plus royalties for the oil and gas used in this event.

What we are seeing now, with actions and demands for more retribution than the regulations call for from Obama on down to many on this board, is market anarchy.

Put me with the market anarchists. While BP will never be able to compensate the true cost of their disaster, enough of an example must be made of them (and the relevent supervisors and mistake makers) that no other driller will be as lax as they were during the procedure, the risks would be too high for the company.

[mick silver]

the show that want stop giving ... i heard a guy from bp also say it a 50 50 chance this will work ..

[UFM]

it is no coincidence that the attack happened in the gulf of MEXICO!! Wake up people! Mexico is the real enemy not Arabia!

Bin Laden is really a mexican and they have been attacking us since 9/11. 9/11 was a mexican job and this oil rig attack was also a mexican job.


Can you show some evidence of this? I've not heard this theory before, but am always open to what others have to say.


there is no available information on this because it is a tightly kept secret. the arab terrorist story is a cover. it's not true. the hijackers were mexicans thas why nobody remembers seeing arabs boarding the planes. israel used mexico to carry out the attacks.

[Horn]

Our pampered complacency will be the end of us all .


All in a days work at the "top" of a six pointed star.

[Awoke]

Our pampered complacency will be the end of us all .


All in a days work at the "top" of a six pointed star.


Indeed.

[UFM]

somewhere, a long time ago,
i read that it only takes 1 quart/litre of oil to contaminate an olympic sized swimming pool full of water

that does not bode well for the Gulf of Mexico

and if this " leak " was done on purpose,

we should be brainstorming the " why "


I already said why - it was to destroy the oceans and kill off nearly all life on this planet - the underground cities are complete and the moon colonies are now running one their own. they are ready

[StackerKen]

right now on the live video link they have a robotic arm above the leak....they are doing something...



Link to Video Stream (http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html)


Edit to Add; Opps... I don't know how to make the link smaller....sorry

EDIT: Made the link smaller for you. -Gaillo

[Buddha]

somewhere, a long time ago,
i read that it only takes 1 quart/litre of oil to contaminate an olympic sized swimming pool full of water

that does not bode well for the Gulf of Mexico

and if this " leak " was done on purpose,

we should be brainstorming the " why "


I already said why - it was to destroy the oceans and kill off nearly all life on this planet - the underground cities are complete and the moon colonies are now running one their own. they are ready


Why would this be done?

[Horn]

Divert delivery of Chinese products thru Mexican truckers.

[Awoke]

Looks like they're doing some work now.

I haven't watched the live stream long enough to figure out if it's a bullshit loop that they are replaying, or if they are actually making progress...

Stream is here (http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html)

[Cebu_4_2]

looks like they are picking gigantic broccoli now!

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=2

[crazychicken]

it is no coincidence that the attack happened in the gulf of MEXICO!! Wake up people! Mexico is the real enemy not Arabia!

Bin Laden is really a mexican and they have been attacking us since 9/11. 9/11 was a mexican job and this oil rig attack was also a mexican job.


Can you show some evidence of this? I've not heard this theory before, but am always open to what others have to say.


there is no available information on this because it is a tightly kept secret. the arab terrorist story is a cover. it's not true. the hijackers were mexicans thas why nobody remembers seeing arabs boarding the planes. israel used mexico to carry out the attacks.


That explains a lot.

CC

[UFM]

somewhere, a long time ago,
i read that it only takes 1 quart/litre of oil to contaminate an olympic sized swimming pool full of water

that does not bode well for the Gulf of Mexico

and if this " leak " was done on purpose,

we should be brainstorming the " why "


I already said why - it was to destroy the oceans and kill off nearly all life on this planet - the underground cities are complete and the moon colonies are now running one their own. they are ready


Why would this be done?


because they dont want you using their resources. read the cfr reports thay say they want to kill off 80%. the reptillians move planet to plaet and use the resources up like then move on

[Awoke]

UFM, I have to ask: Are you an actual dis-info agent, or just a smart-aleck?