Happy Top Kill Day!

[EE_]

It should be capped in the next two days, right?

[k-os]

Don't you think they could have named this method just a little better?

Top Kill? Yeesh.

Anyway, Happy Top Kill Day! I hope it works!

[sirgonzo420]

I like all their buzzword solutions:

Junkshot

Top-kill


what will they think of next?

[Ponce]

The say that the well is loosing 40 gallons every 3 seconds.....really now?

[uranian]

I like all their buzzword solutions:

Junkshot

sounds like some obscure porn practice :-[

i've not paid a lot of attention to this due to being offline, but that streaming vid of the gusher makes it look like not too much hard work to fix, anyone have an idea of what the diameter of the pipe is? i know it's under a fair bit of water, but that doesn't look more than 20 or 30cm across.

[Larry]

It's 5' across.

[uranian]

5 inches?

[Larry]

No 5 feet ("=inches, '=feet). Sorry, guess I should have been more clear. I'll assume your reference to cm means you're a metric guy and can be forgiven for not knowing the abbreviations. So about 2 m.

[uranian]

ta, ok that's a decent sized pipe, i can understand the problems with capping it.

[StackerKen]

anyone know when they are gonna start?

[Silver Moon Rising]

anyone know when they are gonna start?


Don't know the specific time, but they've been given the green light by Federal On-Scene Coordinator Rear Admiral Mary Landry.

http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=93794

[Uncle Salty]

The top kill is not going to work but they have to go through the motions to string us along bit by bit. They can't just come out and say we are screwed, but that is the reality.

The Hopi prophecy of black oceans is emerging.

This thing is gonna bleed for months and months.

Watching the planet destruct on HD before our eyes is some treat isn't it?

[Ponce]

anyone know when they are gonna start?


Agnut just told me on the phone that it wont be today.

[gunDriller]

I like all their buzzword solutions:

Junkshot

Top-kill

what will they think of next?


"BP Announces Operation Bong-Hit" 8)

[StackerKen]

anyone know when they are gonna start?


Agnut just told me on the phone that it wont be today.


yeah I just found this
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/26/AR2010052601621.html?hpid=topnews

It's far from a sure bet. BP chief executive Tony Hayward said Wednesday morning that the company hadn't yet decided whether to go forward with the risky plan, which rather than sealing the well could possibly make the leak worse.


"Those of you who are watching it live on the feed should be aware there will be changes to the flow patterns. That should not be interpreted as either success or failure. It is simply a consequence of the impact of beginning to pump mud," Hayward said on NBC.

[MNeagle]

BP begins "top kill" procedure to cap Gulf of Mexico oil leak.

breaking: www.cnn.com or www.wsj.com

[keehah]

BP Starts Top-Kill Strategy To Cap Leak (http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/news/international/article/77750--bp-starts-top-kill-strategy-to-cap-leak)
2010/05/26

BP has started its so-called top kill strategy to stop the oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico that’s been spewing crude into the water for over a month.

BP Chief Executive Tony Hayward gave the green light Wednesday after U.S. government scientists said it was safe to proceed. Crews plan to pump manufactured mud and cement, twice as dense as the sea water, into the Deepwater Horizon rig’s blowout preventer. The hope is the heavy materials will counteract the upward pressure of the oil.

Engineers will then use cement to permanently seal up the well.

One expert doesn’t have high hopes for this proposed action. Bob Bea, a professor of engineering at Berkeley, said the speed at which the oil is flowing may result in a failed attempt to cap the leak.

This technique has proven successful on above-ground wells, but has never been used more than a kilometre under water. Hayward claims there’s a 60 to 70 per cent chance of success in this case.
If this effort fails, the government will have to step in to stop what could become the worst oil spill in American history.

At least 26 million litres of oil have spilled into the sea since the rig explosion on April 20 that killed 11 people. The spill has devastated Louisiana fishermen, threatened the state’s tourism industry and has seriously harmed wildlife and ecosystems.

And as BP begins its latest plan of action some disturbing reports have come to light, including one that suggests government watchdogs have accepted gifts from oil and gas companies. In a report released this week, Mary Kendall, the acting inspector general for the Interior Department, claims some employees from the government agency responsible for keeping tabs on the industry have negotiated jobs with the companies they’re supposed to be monitoring.

Reports also suggest there were warnings before the explosion. Testimony given before a hearing Tuesday and BP’s internal investigation show managers from Transocean, the company that owns the rig, worried BP wasn’t taking the necessary steps to contain pressure, according to a rig worker.

There was also testimony alleging BP took “shortcuts”.

Tests taken less than an hour before the explosion also showed pressure was building, suggesting a very large abnormality in the well, according to a BP investigator.

[Quantum]

No one really believes this is going to work...or is even intended to work...right?

[ximmy]

Just a public relations effort to show they are doing something... happy top-kill day!!!... http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s222/chrisneros/smilies/icon_beer.gif

[StackerKen]

the live feed is showing something different now


Link to Video Stream (http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html)


EDIT: Changed long link to named link to prevent horizontal scrolling. -Gaillo

[ximmy]

ximy version of top-kill day... http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s222/chrisneros/smilies/smiley_drinkbeerbong.gif

[Twisted Titan]

The top kill is not going to work but they have to go through the motions to string us along bit by bit. They can't just come out and say we are screwed, but that is the reality.

The Hopi prophecy of black oceans is emerging.

This thing is gonna bleed for months and months.

Watching the planet destruct on HD before our eyes is some treat isn't it?



Please share some more about this.


T

[Gaillo]

The top kill is not going to work but they have to go through the motions to string us along bit by bit. They can't just come out and say we are screwed, but that is the reality.

The Hopi prophecy of black oceans is emerging.

This thing is gonna bleed for months and months.

Watching the planet destruct on HD before our eyes is some treat isn't it?



Please share some more about this.


T


Hopi Blue Star Kachina Prophecy:

"I am White Feather, a Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan. In my long life I have traveled through this land, seeking out my brothers, and learning from them many things full of wisdom. I have followed the sacred paths of my people, who inhabit the forests and many lakes in the east, the land of ice and long nights in the north, and the places of holy altars of stone built many years ago by my brothers' fathers in the south. From all these I have heard the stories of the past, and the prophecies of the future. Today, many of the prophecies have turned to stories, and few are left -- the past grows longer, and the future grows shorter.

"And now White Feather is dying. His sons have all joined his ancestors, and soon he too shall be with them. But there is no one left, no one to recite and pass on the ancient wisdom. My people have tired of the old ways -- the great ceremonies that tell of our origins, of our emergence into the Fourth World, are almost all abandoned, forgotten, yet even this has been foretold. The time grows short.

"My people await Pahana, the lost White Brother, [from the stars] as do all our brothers in the land. He will not be like the white men we know now, who are cruel and greedy. we were told of their coming long ago. But still we await Pahana.

"He will bring with him the symbols, and the missing piece of that sacred tablet now kept by the elders, given to him when he left, that shall identify him as our True White Brother.

"The Fourth World shall end soon, and the Fifth World will begin. This the elders everywhere know. The Signs over many years have been fulfilled, and so few are left.

"This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.

"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."

"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."

"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."

"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."

"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."

"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."

"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.

"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.

"These are the Signs that great destruction is coming. The world shall rock to and fro. The white man will battle against other people in other lands -- with those who possessed the first light of wisdom. There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as White Feather has seen the white man make in the deserts not far from here. Only those which come will cause disease and a great dying.

"Many of my people, understanding the prophecies, shall be safe. Those who stay and live in the places of my people also shall be safe. Then there will be much to rebuild. And soon -- very soon afterward -- Pahana will return. He shall bring with him the dawn of the Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in their hearts. Even now the seeds are being planted. These shall smooth the way to the Emergence into the Fifth World.

"But White Feather shall not see it. I am old and dying. You -- perhaps will see it. In time, in time..."

[Ponce]

Even if they were to fixed today.......what they did yesterday will last till tomorrow.

[keehah]

Keith Olberman on MSNBC only shows a loop clip of the spill showing in in slow motion compared to what I see on the net. And they show it in reverse! Like a claymation show of oil slowly going back into the well.

[Edit: I may just look strange because it is now mud coming out, not oil]

Did I catch Obama talking about responding to Peak Oil in all but name?

[EE_]

We should know soon if "Operation Cover-Up" was a success.
Then we can move on to "Big Oil Bail-Out".

[Gypsybiker45]

The top kill is not going to work but they have to go through the motions to string us along bit by bit. They can't just come out and say we are screwed, but that is the reality.

The Hopi prophecy of black oceans is emerging.

This thing is gonna bleed for months and months.

Watching the planet destruct on HD before our eyes is some treat isn't it?



Please share some more about this.


T


Hopi Blue Star Kachina Prophecy:

"I am White Feather, a Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan. In my long life I have traveled through this land, seeking out my brothers, and learning from them many things full of wisdom. I have followed the sacred paths of my people, who inhabit the forests and many lakes in the east, the land of ice and long nights in the north, and the places of holy altars of stone built many years ago by my brothers' fathers in the south. From all these I have heard the stories of the past, and the prophecies of the future. Today, many of the prophecies have turned to stories, and few are left -- the past grows longer, and the future grows shorter.

"And now White Feather is dying. His sons have all joined his ancestors, and soon he too shall be with them. But there is no one left, no one to recite and pass on the ancient wisdom. My people have tired of the old ways -- the great ceremonies that tell of our origins, of our emergence into the Fourth World, are almost all abandoned, forgotten, yet even this has been foretold. The time grows short.

"My people await Pahana, the lost White Brother, [from the stars] as do all our brothers in the land. He will not be like the white men we know now, who are cruel and greedy. we were told of their coming long ago. But still we await Pahana.

"He will bring with him the symbols, and the missing piece of that sacred tablet now kept by the elders, given to him when he left, that shall identify him as our True White Brother.

"The Fourth World shall end soon, and the Fifth World will begin. This the elders everywhere know. The Signs over many years have been fulfilled, and so few are left.

"This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.

"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."

"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."

"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."

"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."

"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."

"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."

"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.

"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.

"These are the Signs that great destruction is coming. The world shall rock to and fro. The white man will battle against other people in other lands -- with those who possessed the first light of wisdom. There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as White Feather has seen the white man make in the deserts not far from here. Only those which come will cause disease and a great dying.

"Many of my people, understanding the prophecies, shall be safe. Those who stay and live in the places of my people also shall be safe. Then there will be much to rebuild. And soon -- very soon afterward -- Pahana will return. He shall bring with him the dawn of the Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in their hearts. Even now the seeds are being planted. These shall smooth the way to the Emergence into the Fifth World.

"But White Feather shall not see it. I am old and dying. You -- perhaps will see it. In time, in time..."



and here is one from my Native, (Iroquois) ancestors

"According to the prophecy of the Seventh Generation, seven generations after contact with the Europeans the Onkwehonwe would see the day when the elm trees would die. The prophecy said that strange animals would be born deformed and without the proper limbs. Huge stone monsters would tear open the face of the earth. The rivers would burn. The air would burn the eyes of man.

According to the prophecy of the Seventh Generation the Onkwehonwe would see the time when the birds would fall from the sky. The fish would die in the water. And man would grow ashamed of the way that he had treated his mother and provider, the earth.

Finally, according to this prophecy, after seven generations of living in close contact with the Europeans, the Onkwehonwe would rise up and demand that their rights and stewardship over the earth be respected and restored."

sound familiar? this was spoken in the 1760s

[keehah]

So if mud is now coming out, and they say the procedure is proceeding as planned, we should now be looking for golf balls. :-*

[Horn]

We should know soon if "Operation Cover-Up" was a success.
Then we can move on to "Big Oil Bail-Out".

Not until we champion big oil corp. & big .gov working hand in hand to save us from ourselves.

We will rejoice at their wedding.

[uranian]

Then there will be much to rebuild. And soon -- very soon afterward -- Pahana will return. He shall bring with him the dawn of the Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in their hearts. Even now the seeds are being planted. These shall smooth the way to the Emergence into the Fifth World.


The legend of the Pahana seems intimately connected with the Aztec story of Quetzalcoatl, and other legends of Central America. This similarity is furthered by the liberal representation of Awanyu, the horned or plumed serpent, in Hopi and other Puebloan art.

just to note how this is another example of an indigenous people referring to the return of an apparently reptillian-type benevolent ET race in their prophecy. you could include the dogon of africa, hindus, zulus, aborigines and so on to this list.

[Gangsta99]

If the reptilians look at all like they did on the most recent version of V I say bring them on and I will be happy to help them with breeding. :)

[bellevuebully]

ximy version of top-kill day... http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s222/chrisneros/smilies/smiley_drinkbeerbong.gif


Good Karma.........hahaha......thanks Ximmy.