Jesuits or Jews Rule the Planet?? (inquiring minds want to know)

[Large Sarge]

start this here


Large Sarge, sorry it took so long but here are some sources. Sorry your link won't work because some other person went on a **g rampage. I can obviously find it if I decide to do so.

Since I believe a literal interpretation of the Bible, including of prophetic passages, is the ultimate source of truth, I am confident that nothing will sway me from my core position. Not to say that I haven't learned anything from you guys, though, because I have. It's always good to study around a topic and hear different viewpoints because it can correct and refine, or completely change one's mind. I in no way expect you to listen to or read any of it, but it's there if you choose to.

Interview of Eric Jon Phelps (5 Parts)

It's long but much shorter than the book. Phelps material is well-researched, and well-documented. I part ways with him in his Reconstructionist bent.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican02a.htm

Link to Vatican Assassins PDF. It's only 663 pages.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/vatican_assassins.pdf

Link to his website

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/

PDF of Alexander Hislop's The Two Babylons

http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_BABYLONS.pdf

Fritz Springmeier's video: 13 Illuminate Bloodlines & Mind Control (There are 16 parts.)

[Large Sarge]

Quote from: greenbear on Today at 02:00:40 PM

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican02a.htm




still working from here

Martin: Where does Las Vegas factor into all of this?
Phelps: Las Vegas, well, for the most part, is controlled by the Mafia. But all the high Mafia families are Roman Catholic, and they are ALL subordinate to the Pope or to the Cardinal of New York, which is Cardinal O’Connor—because the Commission, the Mafia Commission resides in New York. Frank Costello was a member of the Mob Commission, and he was intimate, personal friends with Knight of Malta, Hollywood mogul, Joe Kennedy. And that has not changed.


So, the High Knights are good, dear brothers with the High Mafia Dons—the Gambinos, the Lucchese, the Columbos, all of them. And they control Hollywood, not the Jews. It’s only Jews who are front-men who are involved in Hollywood and working for the Mafia and for the Cardinal, just like in politics it would be Arlen Spector. Arlen Spector was Spelly’s [Cardinal Spellman’s] Jew in the assassination [of President Kennedy], and he would never say a word about it.



ok first Vegas

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/lasvegas/peopleevents/p_syndicate.html

When the 21st Amendment repealed Prohibition in 1933, the Bugs and Meyer Mob lost their main source of income. However, in anticipation of the end of Prohibition, members of one-time competing crime factions came together to form a loosely bound organization, entitled "the Syndicate." Lansky and Luciano were two of the Syndicate's bosses.

The Crime Corporation
The Syndicate was created to unify once competing gangs. Without the lucrative profits from the black market during Prohibition, their power was weaker and they could not afford internecine strife. So they set up a commission to divide up the turf and to regulate the markets. Each gang maintained a degree of independence within the Syndicate, pursuing its individual interests and expertise, such as gambling, narcotics trade and prostitution. One such branch was known as "Murder, Inc.," specializing in the "enforcement" of the Syndicate's business.

Chairman of the Board
With their newfound unification, the Syndicate's power grew considerably. When Lucky Luciano was deported to Italy, he turned all of his responsibilities to Lansky, who was known as the Chairman of the Board of the National Crime Syndicate. Siegel created a Syndicate stronghold in the quickly developing American Southwest, where he set up new monopolized gambling circuits and the Syndicate-funded Strip hotel-resort the Flamingo, founded in 1946.

In Las Vegas
After Siegel, who had once famously noted of Syndicate members, "We only kill each other," was murdered in 1947, Gus Greenbaum, Davey Berman, and Morris Rosen, three of the Syndicate's chief authorities, took over the Flamingo. The hotel's success prompted the Syndicate to pour more money into building Strip resorts, and by the 1950s, the Strip was lined with hotel-casinos, many, if not all, funded by Syndicate money. From the 1940s through the 1970s, Las Vegas and its lavish resorts were made possible in large part by the mob,


and second Hollywood

How Jewish is Hollywood?
A poll finds more Americans disagree with the statement that ‘Jews control Hollywood.’ But here’s one Jew who doesn’t.

Joel Stein

December 19, 2008

I have never been so upset by a poll in my life. Only 22% of Americans now believe “the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews,” down from nearly 50% in 1964. The Anti-Defamation League, which released the poll results last month, sees in these numbers a victory against stereotyping. Actually, it just shows how dumb America has gotten. Jews totally run Hollywood.

How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah.

The person they were yelling at in that ad was SAG President Alan Rosenberg (take a guess). The scathing rebuttal to the ad was written by entertainment super-agent Ari Emanuel (Jew with Israeli parents) on the Huffington Post, which is owned by Arianna Huffington (not Jewish and has never worked in Hollywood.)

The Jews are so dominant, I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies. When I called them to talk about their incredible advancement, five of them refused to talk to me, apparently out of fear of insulting Jews. The sixth, AMC President Charlie Collier, turned out to be Jewish.

As a proud Jew, I want America to know about our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood. Without us, you’d be flipping between “The 700 Club” and “Davey and Goliath” on TV all day.

So I’ve taken it upon myself to re-convince America that Jews run Hollywood by launching a public relations campaign, because that’s what we do best. I’m weighing several slogans, including: “Hollywood: More Jewish than ever!”; “Hollywood: From the people who brought you the Bible”; and “Hollywood: If you enjoy TV and movies, then you probably like Jews after all.”

I called ADL Chairman Abe Foxman, who was in Santiago, Chile, where, he told me to my dismay, he was not hunting Nazis. He dismissed my whole proposition, saying that the number of people who think Jews run Hollywood is still too high. The ADL poll, he pointed out, showed that 59% of Americans think Hollywood execs “do not share the religious and moral values of most Americans,” and 43% think the entertainment industry is waging an organized campaign to “weaken the influence of religious values in this country.”

That’s a sinister canard, Foxman said. “It means they think Jews

meet at Canter’s Deli on Friday mornings to decide what’s best for the Jews.” Foxman’s argument made me rethink: I have to eat at Canter’s more often.

“That’s a very dangerous phrase, ‘Jews control Hollywood.’ What is true is that there are a lot of Jews in Hollywood,” he said. Instead of “control,” Foxman would prefer people say that many executives in the industry “happen to be Jewish,” as in “all eight major film studios are run by men who happen to be Jewish.”

But Foxman said he is proud of the accomplishments of American Jews. “I think Jews are disproportionately represented in the creative industry. They’re disproportionate as lawyers and probably medicine here as well,” he said. He argues that this does not mean that Jews make pro-Jewish movies any more than they do pro-Jewish surgery. Though other countries, I’ve noticed, aren’t so big on circumcision.

I appreciate Foxman’s concerns. And maybe my life spent in a New Jersey-New York/Bay Area-L.A. pro-Semitic cocoon has left me naive. But I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/celebrity/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,2313474.column

[Large Sarge]

Quote from: greenbear on Today at 02:00:40 PM
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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican02a.htm




starting here for now

from your link


They’re the ones in the government. They’re the ones behind professional sports. The owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Knight of Malta. The owner of the Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. All your top owners of these ball clubs, for the most part, are Knights of Malta, getting the people whooped up in this hoopla over games and sports, while they’re busy creating a tyranny. So, that was one of the things in the Protocols—that they would create “amusements”.


JEWISH INFLUENCE IN THE BUSINESS OF SPORTS


Commssioner of Major League Baseball: Bud Selig
Commissioner of the National Football League: Paul Tagliabue
Commissioner of the National Basketball Association: David Stern
Commissioner of the National Hockey League: Gary Bettman
Commissioner of of Major League Soccer: Don Garber

All these heads of the 4 major American sports professional organizations are Jewish (2002).

and a whole whole lot more at the link (virtually every sports assoc is run/owned by jews, not knights of malta)

please look at the link, it is so well documented/researched

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-capitalists-sports.html

[Large Sarge]

http://www.illuminatiarchives.org/category/mp3/


http://www.archive.org/download/Myron_C._Fagan__The_Illuminati_and_The_Council_on_ Foreign_Relations/MyronC.FaganTheIlluminatiandTheCouncilonForeignRel ations.mp3

[Large Sarge]

NATIONAL FOOTBALL TEAMS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...l_League_teams

Arizona Cardinals

Owner: Bill Bidwill (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Baltimore Ravens

Owner: Steve Bisciotti (Roman Catholic, on the board of "Catholic Charities")

Chicago Bears

Owner: Virgina McCaskey (Roman Catholic)

Chairman: Michael McCaskey (Roman Catholic)

Head Coach: Lovie Smith (Roman Catholic)

Detroit Lions

According to Eric Jon Phelps (www.vaticanassassins.org), the owner of the Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. I could find no confirmation for this though.

Houston Texans

Head Coach: Gary Kubiak (Roman Catholic)

Indianapolis Colts

Owner: Jim Irsay (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

New York Giants

Owner: John Mara (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Head Coach: Tom Coughlin (Coached for the Jesuit Boston College)

Pittsburgh Steelers

Owner: Dan Rooney (Roman Catholic, Knight of Malta according to Eric Jon Phelps)

Manager: Kevin Colbert (Roman Catholic)

San Diego Chargers

Manager/Executive Vice President: A.J. Smith (Roman Catholic)

San Fransisco 49ers

Owner: John York (Roman Catholic)

Head Coach: Mike Nolan (Roman Catholic)

NATIONAL BASEBALL TEAMS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_l...gue_franchises

Baltimore Orioles# David Montgomery, president and CEO of the Philadelphia Phillies

Manager: David Trembley (Roman Catholic)

New York Yankees

Owner: George Steinbrenner (Roman Catholic)

Manager: Joe Girardi (Roman Catholic)

General Manager: Brian Cashman (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Tampa Bay Rays

Owner: Stuart Sternberg (Roman Catholic)

Toronto Blue Jays

Manager: J. P. Ricciardi (Roman Catholic)

Cleveland Indians

Owner: Larry Dolan (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Chicago Cubs

General Manager/Vice President: Jim Hendry (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Cincinnati Reds

Owner: Robert Castellini (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

NATIONAL BASKETBALL TEAMS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...ociation#Teams

Boston Celtics

Head Coach: Doc Rivers (His son plays on the basketball team of Georgetown, a Jesuit university)

New Jersey Nets

Owner: Mary Higgins Clark (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained, Knight (Dame) of Malta)

Head Coach: Lawrence Frank (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

New York Knicks

Owner: James Dolan (Son of the Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained owner of the Chicago Cubs)

Manager: Donnie Walsh (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Philadelphia 76ers

Manager: Ed Stefanski (Roman Catholic)

Chicago Bulls

Manager: John Paxson (Roman Catholic)

Cleveland Cavaliers

Manager: Danny Ferry (Roman Catholic)

Indiana Pacers

Head Coach: Jim O'Brien (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained, Coached for a Jesuit university)

Charlotte Bobcats

Owner: Michael Jordan (Both of his sons attended a Jesuit school)

Orlando Magic

Head Coach: Steve Van Gundy (Was assistant coach at two Jesuit universities)

Washington Wizards

Head Coach: Eddie Jordan (Was assistant coach at a Jesuit university)

Oklahoma City National Basketball Association team

Head Coach: P. J. Carlesimo (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Golden State Warriors

Manager: Chris Mullin (Roman Catholic)

Los Angeles Chippers

Manager: Elgin Baylor (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Houston Rockets

Head Coach: Rick Adelman (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Memphis Grizzlies

Owner: Michael Heisley (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)

Wrestling

World Wrestling Entertainment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_W..._Entertainment

Chairman: Vince McMahon (Roman Catholic)

Chief Executive Officer: Linda McMahon (Roman Catholic)

Executive Vice President of Global Media: Shane McMahon (Roman Catholic)

Executive Vice President of Creative Writing: Stephanie McMahon (Roman Catholic)

Yes, arguably the biggest sheeple distraction is run by a Roman Catholic family, the McMahons. It's interesting to note that The Undertaker is Roman Catholic as well.



Knights of Columbus in sports:

Quote:
In the world of sports, Vince Lombardi, the famed former coach of the Green Bay Packers, Lou Albano Wrestler, James Connolly, the first Olympic Gold Medal champion in modern times, and baseball star Babe Ruth were Knights. Former heavyweight boxing champion, Floyd Patterson, was also a Knight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_Columbus


http://letsrollforums.com/vatican-runs-professional-sports-t17465.html?s=5a63d7a0f58d06dd2c71a9601f50583b&

[Large Sarge]

I am going to post this, just to compare notes, it is already established that all major sports commissioners jewish

By the early 1980s Jewish individuals owned or controlled a huge number of professional baseball, basketball, football, hockey and other sports teams. A sample includes the San Diego Chargers, Seattle Supersonics, Milwaukee Brewers, San Francisco Giants, Philadelphia Eagles, Chicago Black Hawks, Cleveland Browns (Art Modell), Oakland A's, and part of the New York Knicks. [BAER, p. 30] (By the 1990s, both the New York Knicks and New York Rangers were owned by Viacom, headed by Jewish mogul Sumner Redstone). SILBIGER, S., 2000, p. 32] Sidney Shlenker, head of Pace Entertainment, owned the Denver Nuggets from 1985-89. Al Cohen was also one of the three owners of the Boston Celtics (he was also the chairman of the basketball owners' Board of Governors, beginning in 1986). Philip Mack owned the Minnesota Twins. Richard Bloch was president of the Phoenix Suns and also the chairman of the owners’ Board of Governors. A Jewish entrepreneur, Ed Snider, still owns the Philadelphia Flyers pro hockey team (he also a board member of the Simon Wiesenthal Holocaust museum in Los Angeles. He also owns Prism, the largest regional pay-per-view TV network in America, as well as Spectacor, which includes TicketMaster and the Philadelphia Spectrum sports center). Irwin Jacobs controlled the Minnesota Vikings. Jeff Smulyan, the CEO of Emmis Broadcasting, owned the Seattle Mariners ("Smulyan has won civil service awards for his efforts on behalf of Jewish causes ... Reclaimed land in Israel has even been forested in his name." [PRICE, p. C1]

Bud Adams owns the (football) Tennessee Oilers (formerly in Houston) and Les Alexander owns the (basketball) Houston Rockets. Al Davis also eventually owned the Oakland Raiders, Carroll Rosenbloom the Los Angeles Rams, and Abe Pollin not only the Washington Wizards but also the Washington Capitals. "Pollin," noted the Jerusalem Post in 1997, "the most senior owner in the NBA, [was] a close friend of the late [Israeli] prime minister Yitzhak Rabin." [KUTTLER, p. 20] Pollin, with fellow real estate developer Albert Cohen, also built Washington D.C.'s entertainment and sports complex, the Capital Centre. Jewish entrepreneur Daniel Snyder also owns the other professional team in the nation's capital, the Washington Redskins (football). "The rest of the National Football League," noted the New York Times,

"has taken notice, not only of Snyder's fat wallet, but of his brashness, and some say, his outright arrogance ... Snyder earned his first million by the time he was 20, and by 31, he was the youngest chief executive of a company on the New York Stock Exchange." [FREEMAN, M., 8-6-2000, p. 1, 24]

[Libertarian_Guard]

LargeSarge

May I start the drum roll, for the unveiling of the Black Pope again?

A subject, that unless I'm wrong, is only discussed over the internet!

[Horn]

What are these "or jews". Some stricter strain of the original dialects?

Are they browner, or lighter skinned, hooked or shoveled nose? I need to know in case I bump into one on the way to the market.

Oddly enough, I live only 5 minutes from the Maltese Embassy here in Costa Rica.

[greenbear]

LargeSarge

May I start the drum roll, for the unveiling of the Black Pope again?

A subject, that unless I'm wrong, is only discussed over the internet!


Do you prefer the "Khazar" theory of the Jews? That Ephraim and Manasseh traveled over the Caucasus mountains 3700 years ago then promptly forgot they were Israelites, landed in Britain and America and just miraculously remembered they were really Israel in the last 150 years? And the Turkish Khazars traveled the other way over to take their places as Israel, forgetting as well that they are actually Turkish, not of the tribes of Jacob?

If you prefer that theory then you are in the right place, because that's what you find plastered on just about every thread on GSUS, as on GIM.

[Large Sarge]

NATIONAL FOOTBALL TEAMS


Indianapolis Colts

Owner: Jim Irsay (Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained)



I picked one at random, towards the middle
(he is even a name changer, bonus points for the sarge) :)
Jim Irsay
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Irsay in April 2007James (Jim) Irsay (born June 13, 1959 in Lincolnwood, Illinois) is the owner of the Indianapolis Colts of the National Football League. The son of a Jewish father (Robert Irsay) and a Polish mother, he attended high school at Loyola Academy in Wilmette, Illinois, a suburb just north of Chicago, Illinois. Irsay graduated from Southern Methodist University in 1982.

[edit] Biography
Jim Irsay was 12 years old when his father Robert Irsay (neé Israel) purchased the Baltimore Colts. After graduating from SMU, he began working for the Colts in 1982. He started by working at the ticket counter and then later in the team's public relations department. Jim was named general manager in 1984, one month after the Colts made their controversial move to Indianapolis. After his father suffered a stroke in 1995, Jim assumed day-to-day management of the team. When his father died in 1997, Jim had a legal battle with his stepmother but later became the youngest NFL team owner at that time. He was 37. He controls 100% of the franchise.

[FreeEnergy]

Large Sarge, good quest, very strange results you may run into..

I got 2 things to contribute here so far:

Cosimo Medici, jewish-"italian" banker who became Catholic pope (and passed pope title to his heirs for several generations):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosimo_de%27_Medici

And here's an interesting building. It is a building for "british" (bankers) intelligence service MI6 in London. If you don't know the style, I got a clue for you, it is called ZIGGURAT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziggurat).

[Horn]

http://www.jesuitnola.org/jesdata/Jesuits_Priests_Brothers_Scholastics.jpg

Here they are, with centuries of ruined empires at their feet they have emerged once again to propagate the cycled usury of inquisitors.

Fear not, people will once again have no choice, but to bank on their regimented agents of false fiat returns.

http://www.jesuitnola.org/academics/Academics_2007_2008_Events.htm

[greenbear]

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I'm not going to debate,

ok.....

you find me a free copy online, and I will read your book.

I will offer you a free source of info on "the illuminati"

page

http://100777.com/myron

download

http://files.100777.com/*agan.mp3

http://files.100777.com/*agan.mp3
streaming

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Large Sarge, sorry it took so long but here are some sources. Sorry your link won't work because some other person went on a **g rampage. I can obviously find it if I decide to do so.

Since I believe a literal interpretation of the Bible, including of prophetic passages, is the ultimate source of truth, I am confident that nothing will sway me from my core position. Not to say that I haven't learned anything from you guys, though, because I have. It's always good to study around a topic and hear different viewpoints because it can correct and refine, or completely change one's mind. I in no way expect you to listen to or read any of it, but it's there if you choose to. :)

Interview of Eric Jon Phelps (5 Parts)

It's long but much shorter than the book. Phelps material is well-researched, and well-documented. I part ways with him in his Reconstructionist bent.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican02a.htm

Link to Vatican Assassins PDF. It's only 663 pages.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/vatican_assassins.pdf

Link to his website

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/

PDF of Alexander Hislop's The Two Babylons

http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_BABYLONS.pdf

Fritz Springmeier's video: 13 Illuminate Bloodlines & Mind Control (There are 16 parts.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k73Q2_f4vKU

[Large Sarge]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1065650/3/index.htm


"He joined the house as a pledge, which is the first step toward becoming a member," Petacque says. "He definitely was a pledge, and not an employee of the club. They didn't paddle employees, and he got paddled plenty."

Irsay even denies being raised as a Jew. "If I'm Jewish, how come I belong to all the gentile clubs?" he asks, referring to various golf and social clubs he belongs to in the Chicago area and in Florida. "I'm a Catholic. I was married by Father Dolan in the Queen of All Saints Church in Chicago," he continues. "You can look it up."

"You converted?"

"No


He is asked about the wedding that his mother gave him, the $5,000 affair that was performed in Rabbi Louis Binstock's study on July 12, 1947, at Temple Sholom, when Bob married the former Harriet Pogorzelski. And afterward the posh reception at the Belmont Hotel. "That's correct, also," Irsay says, barely missing a beat. "I had two weddings. That was for him," he adds, talking about his father, or stepfather, as Irsay refers to him. "Maybe my mother converted to Jewish, I don't know. I've had more problems finding out who I am and what I am. Everything's so confusing in my life."

[greenbear]

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The all-seeing eye of Horace:

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http://215sports.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/pg2_w_lebron_jayz_275.jpg

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The all-seeing eye of Horace:

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http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/GBPackerfan4life/rodgershornavi.jpg

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http://marcoponce.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jayz4.jpg

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[Large Sarge]

Irsay was a crypto-jew and a name changer (I really just picked that at random)

I think that is triple bonus points or something

Wow!

[Horn]

Come on greenbear, that was obvious pollution.

I suggest you remove that oil slick.

And they wonder why the bible was rewritten 132 times.

[jetgraphics]

Predators hiding behind all manner of innocent parties, rule this planet.

[Large Sarge]

Now I doubt I will get that lucky again (crypto, and a name changer)

but lets see what we have here


Tampa Bay Rays

Owner: Stuart Sternberg (Roman Catholic)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Sternberg

Childhood
The youngest of three children, Sternberg was born and raised in the Canarsie neighborhood of New York's Brooklyn borough to Jewish parents. Sternberg's passion for baseball developed as a child while playing the game in the streets and playgrounds of his neighborhood. One of Sternberg's most cherished memories is of watching Sandy Koufax pitch while attending his first Major League game, with his father, at Shea Stadium in 1965. Sternberg has played in various organized baseball leagues over his lifetime and has coached his two sons' Little League teams for five years

[Large Sarge]

you know in all honesty Greenbear,

I think Mr. Phelps needs to work on his research skills.

[Grand Master Melon]

I think it's pretty obvious that Mormons actually rule the planet.

::)

[greenbear]

What you may miss in all the excitement :) is that my views are derived from a literal, pre-millennial understanding of the scriptures. That is my ultimate truth. A literal understanding of prophetic passages of the end-times (which make up 17% of the Bible) shows indisputably that the Children of Israel will be back in their land as a nation-state before the beginning of the Tribulation period, and that 2/3 of Israel will be killed during this time. The remaining 1/3 will recognize Christ as their Messiah. At this time Jesus Christ will utterly destroy the nations of the world that are invading her at that time.

The Jews largely rejected their Messiah and killed him. He came to die for the sins of the world. Prophesy was fulfilled, and the purposes of God were accomplished. The Jews said "Let his blood be upon us and our children". They are currently under a curse, and they are blinded. Read Romans chapters 9-11, Paul gives an exposition of the Christians position and what a Christian's attitude should be towards the Jews.

You showing Jews as a visible face of the Illuminati does not disprove my position.

Read the Phelps material, and decide for yourself where the preponderance of the evidence leads you. Check out his sources, as well. He simply builds upon the work of others. Whatever you decide is fine with me.

Again, unless you believe the Bible is the word of God, and you read it in a literal way, you will not, and cannot believe what I believe. That's why this is probably pointless. The nations will be deceived into persecuting Israel, and they will be destroyed at Christ's second coming.

[FreeEnergy]

greenbear, jews created your bible.

I just recently made a comment about this. Romans couldn't crucify Jesus in Jerusalem in year 0 a.d. There was no City of Rome, and there was no City of Jerusalem at the time - it is a lie. And IF crucifixion was an actual event, it took place elsewhere, most likely in Constantinople.

[Large Sarge]

What you may miss in all the excitement :) is that my views are derived from a literal, pre-millennial understanding of the scriptures. That is my ultimate truth. A literal understanding of prophetic passages of the end-times (which make up 17% of the Bible) shows indisputably that the Children of Israel will be back in their land as a nation-state before the beginning of the Tribulation period, and that 2/3 of Israel will be killed during this time. The remaining 1/3 will recognize Christ as their Messiah. At this time Jesus Christ will utterly destroy the nations of the world that are invading her at that time.

The Jews largely rejected their Messiah and killed him. He came to die for the sins of the world. Prophesy was fulfilled, and the purposes of God were accomplished. The Jews said "Let his blood be upon us and our children". They are currently under a curse, and they are blinded. Read Romans chapters 9-11, Paul gives an exposition of the Christians position and what a Christian's attitude should be towards the Jews.

You showing Jews as a visible face of the Illuminati does not disprove my position.

Read the Phelps material, and decide for yourself where the preponderance of the evidence leads you. Check out his sources, as well. He simply builds upon the work of others. Whatever you decide is fine with me.

Again, unless you believe the Bible is the word of God, and you read it in a literal way, you will not, and cannot believe what I believe. That's why this is probably pointless. The nations will be deceived into persecuting Israel, and they will be destroyed at Christ's second coming.




@ Greenbear,

who wrote (or rewrote your bible?)


http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/scofield.htm
And who was Cyrus Scofield?

As a young con-artist in Kansas after the Civil War, he met up with John J. Ingalls, an aging Jewish lawyer who had been sent to Atchison by the "Secret Six" some thirty years before to work the Abolitionist cause. Pulling strings both in Kansas and with his compatriots back east, Ingalls assisted Scofield in gaining admission to the Bar, and procured his appointment as Federal Attorney for Kansas. Ingalls and Scofield became partners in a railroad scam which led to Cyrus serving time for criminal forgery.

While he was in prison, Scofield began studying the philosophy of John Darby, pioneer of the Plymouth Brethren movement and the "any moment now" rapture doctrine.

Upon his release from prison, Scofield deserted his first wife, Leonteen Carry Scofield, and his two daughters Abigail and Helen, and he took as his mistress a young girl from the St. Louis Flower Mission. He later abandoned her for Helen van Ward, whom he eventually married. Following his Illuminati connections to New York, he settled in at the Lotus Club, which he listed as his residence for the next twenty years. It was here that he presented his ideas for a new Christian Bible concordance, and was taken under the wing of Samuel Untermeyer, who later became chairman of the American Jewish Committee, president of the American League of Jewish Patriots, and chairman of the Non-sectarian Anti-Nazi League.

Untermeyer introduced Scofield to numerous Zionist and socialist leaders, including Samuel Gompers, Fiorello LaGuardia, Abraham Straus, Bernard Baruch and Jacob Schiff. These were the people who financed Scofield's research trips to Oxford and arranged the publication and distribution of his concordance.

It is impossible to overstate the influence of Cyrus Scofield on twentieth-century Christian beliefs. The Scofield Bible is the standard reference work in virtually all Christian ministries and divinity schools. It is singularly responsible for the Christian belief that the Hebrew Prophecies describe the kingdom of Jesus' Second Coming, and not the Zionist vision of a man-made New World Order.

[greenbear]

greenbear, jews created your bible.

I just recently made a comment about this. Romans couldn't crucify Jesus in Jerusalem in year 0 a.d. There was no City of Rome, and there was no City of Jerusalem at the time - it is a lie. And IF crucifixion was an actual event, it took place elsewhere, most likely in Constantinople.


Okey-dokey.

[DMac]

Re: Jesuits or Jews Rule the Planet?? (inquiring minds want to know)

Neither.

The evil ones of this earth either knowingly or unknowingly worship Evil.

Angra Mainyu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angra_Mainyu), the god of evil in Zoroastrianism is a good example of this evil force - here is a good write up that helps explain what I am referring to:

The Battle Between Good and Evil in Zoroastrianism (http://www.hinduwebsite.com/zoroastrianism/ahirman.asp)

(It is my belief the Zoroastrian religion is much older than it's namesake, which is reported as ~650 BC. I hosted a presentation some years back where the guest speaker was a Zoroastrian priest. He had some incredibly interesting things to say. One of which was that the basic truths Zoroastrianism is founded upon (good god/evil god, 3 commandments of good thoughts, good words and good deeds) are the tenets of faiths passed down over a very long time - x000's of years)

[DMac]

I'm listening to one of the interviews I found here (http://nwo-satanismus.blogspot.com/2009/12/deep-understanding-of-new-world-order.html) and on the Internet Archive (http://www.archive.org/details/TheSatanicCultThatRulesTheWorld)

[greenbear]

Large Sarge, why don't you tell me something about yourself? What religious beliefs do you hold? Are you a Christian Identity believer, or an atheist?

Also, you started a thread about whether the Jesuits or the Jews rule the planet, not to try to discredit the Bible, or dispensationalism. Are you hi-jacking your own thread?

Regarding the title of your thread: I don't think either the Jesuits or the Jews rule the planet. Satan rules the planet, and he employs many different groups to accomplish this.

How would you rank the Roman Catholic Church, the British monarchy and the City of London, and the Masons in your list of those that "rule the planet"?

[Large Sarge]

Large Sarge, why don't you tell me something about yourself? What religious beliefs do you hold? Are you a Christian Identity believer, or an atheist?

Also, you started a thread about whether the Jesuits or the Jews rule the planet, not to try to discredit the Bible, or dispensationalism. Are you hi-jacking your own thread?

Regarding the title of your thread: I don't think either the Jesuits or the Jews rule the planet. Satan rules the planet, and he employs many different groups to accomplish this.

How would you rank the Roman Catholic Church, the British monarchy and the City of London, and the Masons in your list of those that "rule the planet"?


Well I hope there is a god, I certainly pray.
I guess I am mainly a researcher

City of London is the rothschilds (it was their first little nation, before they built Israel)

The last Pope was a crypto-jew (like a few of the folks on your list from phelps)

Masons were infiltrated by the jews way back, Nesta Webster wrote about it "secret societies" (free copies online) The Masons are just opportunistic folks (power hungry)


British Monarchy is nothing, they keep it there for appearances (like they keep our congress, president, etc). The Rothschilds owned the entire british economy (currency, bonds, stocks,etc) after Napoleon was defeated.
They built the first central bank off of this, the bank of england, the bank of england made the federal reserve.

Everything is under the zionist jews at the top, Israel is the conspiracy.
Samuel untermeyer paid Cyrus Scolfield to rewrite your bible, and because the jews owned all the publishing houses, it got put out all over America

I am not hijacking my own thread, you said "I believe xyz because the bible tells me that"
and I said "look who rewrote your bible"

[Libertarian_Guard]

Would someone please say something about the Jesuit General already!

The suspense is killing me.

[Horn]

Wasn't there a U.N. resolution with regards to the subject of evil marriages at some point?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN7ioCiSmtc

[Quantum]

what a Christian's attitude should be towards the Jews:


"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."

1 John 2:22-23

[Quantum]

How would you rank the Roman Catholic Church, the British monarchy and the City of London, and the Masons in your list of those that "rule the planet"?


The Roman church was originally a competitor to Satan's servants, the Jews.

The British monarchy are media idols, and nothing more - they hold no real power.

The City of London is the European center of Satan's Jewish servant-family, the Rothschilds.

The Freemasons provide "Judaism for Gentiles."

[Quantum]

you said "I believe xyz because the bible tells me that"


greenbear fails to hear Jesus Christ, because she listens only to Judeo-"Christianity."




and I said "look who rewrote your bible"


The Bible was not "re-written." It is about 98% accurate. The trouble is not the Bible, but the Judeophilic interpretation of it. The Talmud Jews are damned to Hell thoroughly by the Holy Bible, if one listens to Christ and his servants quoted in it, and NOT PEOPLE WHO WORSHIP SATAN'S CHILDREN, THE JEWS.

[Horn]

The Bible was not "re-written." It is about 98% accurate.

So much for the whole truth... :-\

[Quantum]

The Bible was not "re-written." It is about 98% accurate.

So much for the whole truth... :-\


Only idolaters believe the Bible is "perfect." God's Word is perfect. The Bible contains "God's Word." But words in the Bible must never be considered "God's Word" unless proven so.

An "error rate" of 2% over thousands of years of history is phenomenal. It's literally a miracle, to be preserved so well. The Truth of Jesus Christ is in no way diminished by this. "100% accuracy" is a dogma, not a necessary doctrine.

[Hypertiger]

The top which is invisible rules.

You can't destroy what you can't target.

The top can see you long before you see the destroyers sent to annihilate you.

Your lifespans are not long enough...Maybe your children or theirs could get close to the top of the hierarchy if a multi generational scheme was implemented.

[Horn]

http://www.pitodoble.com/imagenes/barad-dur.jpg

[greenbear]

Why do the Satanic Illuminists who have untold riches torture their own children to make them into mind-control slaves, and work towards an agenda whose fruition has always been well beyond their lifespans, carry on with it? Why don't they instead retire to the good life, enjoy their families, their children, relax, and live the good life. The reason is that those born in the multi-generational bloodlines of the Illuminati are captives, they must carry on or they will be executed. The conspiracy is beyond this physical world. It is spiritual, an agenda planned and implemented by spirits. Some relieve their consciences by leaking information about what is really going on. There is only one answer for them and for us. We cannot fight the iron beast, it has been decreed by God. There is only one escape route, only one door. That is trusting in the righteousness of Jesus Christ to cover our sins, for he has already paid the price. Those who do this will be evacuated before the test that comes upon the whole world.

[Horn]

That is trusting in the righteousness of Jesus Christ to cover our sins, for he has already paid the price.

Are you giving me the go ahead to commence countdown? :boom

I was just assuming we could all get together & have a golden orgy in the middle of the desert. 8)

[Quantum]

The top which is invisible rules.

You can't destroy what you can't target.

The top can see you long before you see the destroyers sent to annihilate you.

Your lifespans are not long enough...Maybe your children or theirs could get close to the top of the hierarchy if a multi generational scheme was implemented.


The Top will be annihilated by Jesus Christ.

[Horn]

The Top will be annihilated by Jesus Christ.


Right now, in a cave of Afghanistan working on a dirty nuke. :oo-->

[Quantum]

The reason is that those born in the multi-generational bloodlines of the Illuminati are captives, they must carry on or they will be executed.


The non-existent "illuminati" are a red herring to distract from the Satanic Talmud Jews.

The leaders of the Devil's regime on Earth are the Jews.

"Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God."

(these are the people that greenbear worships, and insists "own" Palestine, the Land of Israel, because of their race - you can believe greenbear & John Hagee...or you can believe Jesus Christ)

John 8:39-47




The conspiracy is beyond this physical world. It is spiritual, an agenda planned and implemented by spirits.


This we can, mostly, agree on. The "plan" is orchestrated by the Devil...but it's brought on the world by his people, the Talmud Jews, and implemented further by thugs of every stripe. Babylon is a metaphor of all evil, and the fact the Jews' unholy books are called the Babylonian Talmud is no accident. The Babylonian Talmud gave birth to the "Babylonian Woe" (fiat, fractional-reserve banking) as well as the Mystery Babylon System called the "New World Order" ("Novus Ordo Seclorum" aka "The New Atlantis").




There is only one answer for them and for us. We cannot fight the iron beast, it has been decreed by God.


Wrong.

"Occupy till I come."

Luke 19:13

"Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost its savor, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out and trodden under foot of men."

Matthew 5:13

We cannot "occupy" without resisting the New World Order. We cannot preserve the world, as salt does of food, without responding to evil.




There is only one escape route, only one door. That is trusting in the righteousness of Jesus Christ to cover our sins, for he has already paid the price.


This is true...but only for one's transgressions against God. Salvation does not mean one sits on one's rear, and does nothing. We stand for Christ, against all evil.




Those who do this will be evacuated before the test that comes upon the whole world.


This is a damnable and satanic LIE.

There will be no pre-tribulation Rapture. We shall "occupy till He comes."

[Quantum]

The Top will be annihilated by Jesus Christ.


Right now, in a cave of Afghanistan working on a dirty nuke. :oo-->


Huh?

I never believed the "bin Laden" and "al-Qaeda" lies. "al-Qaeda" is better described at "al-CIAaeda." Osama bin Laden worked for the CIA under the codename Tim Osman.

Any nuclear weapon use in the USA will be with the consent or direct involvement of the US Government.

The SOBs who run this world, on orders of Hell, are not elected...not even in sham elections.