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Ponce
27th May 2010, 08:40 PM
We can always find money for the bankers and for war.....but none for education.
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100,000 teachers nationwide face layoffs.

"Higher-needs schools are hit inequitably" by the cuts, says Jennifer Moless, a kindergarten teacher in San Francisco. Moless has been pink-slipped but has also been told she's likely to get a reprieve. (Randi Lynn Beach For The Washington Post) Network NewsX Profile

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By Nick Anderson
Thursday, May 27, 2010

Senior congressional Democrats and the Obama administration scrambled Wednesday to line up support for $23 billion in federal aid to avert an estimated 100,000 or more school layoffs in a brutal year for education budgets coast to coast.

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As early as Thursday, the House Appropriations Committee expects to take up a bill that couples the school funding with spending for the Afghanistan war -- a measure that has bipartisan support. But a parallel push in the Senate stalled this week after a leading proponent concluded that he couldn't muster enough votes to surmount Republican opposition.

"We desperately need Congress to act -- to recognize the emergency for what it is," Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Wednesday on Capitol Hill. "We have to keep hundreds of thousands of teachers teaching."

Republicans and some Democrats say the government can't afford an extension of last year's economic stimulus that would add to the federal deficit. The stimulus law kept many school budgets afloat with $49 billion in direct aid to states and billions of dollars more for various programs. But the stimulus funding is trailing off before state and local tax revenue can recover from the recession.

Skeptics of a new education jobs fund point out that the teaching force in recent years has grown faster than enrollment, with schools adding instructional coaches and reducing class sizes.

"Giving states another $23 billion in federal education money simply throws more money into taxpayer-funded bailouts when we should be discussing why we aren't seeing the results we need from the billions in federal dollars that are already being spent," said House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio).

How many of the estimated 3.3 million public school teachers nationwide will lose their jobs remains unknown. Duncan often says 100,000 to 300,000 education jobs are at risk, including support staff. Teachers unions have put the layoff threat in the range of 160,000 -- including 9,000 in New Jersey, 16,000 in New York and 36,000 in California.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/26/AR2010052604209.html

Buddha
27th May 2010, 08:45 PM
what bullshit, exactly right there is enough money for evil, but none for good. My mother taught in public schools in a large city for over 30 years, her highest pay was about 60k at the time that she retired after living with n her means for decades.

I know the qualms the people have about public schools bit it is not the teachers (at least most of them) it is the federally issued rules and mandates that interfere.

StackerKen
27th May 2010, 08:48 PM
another step further down for this nation..... :-\

Quantum
27th May 2010, 10:28 PM
The more professional "teachers" this country has, the more ignorant the population is.

I don't see the implosion of the "educational" industry as a bad thing in the least. 90% of professional "teachers" are leftists, often Communists. They substituted Communist ideology - what to think - for the wisdom of how to think.

Maybe we'll get back to a meritocracy where the truly knowledgeable and truly wise displace those with paper degrees (which mean absolutely nothing).

Buddha
27th May 2010, 10:30 PM
The more professional "teachers" this country has, the more ignorant the population is.

I don't see the implosion of the "educational" industry as a bad thing in the least. 90% of professional "teachers" are leftists, often Communists. They substituted Communist ideology - what to think - for the wisdom of how to think.

Maybe we'll get back to a meritocracy where the truly knowledgeable and truly wise displace those with paper degrees (which mean absolutely nothing).


maybe you can teach the masses quantum, teach them how to hate.

Quantum
27th May 2010, 10:37 PM
The more professional "teachers" this country has, the more ignorant the population is.

I don't see the implosion of the "educational" industry as a bad thing in the least. 90% of professional "teachers" are leftists, often Communists. They substituted Communist ideology - what to think - for the wisdom of how to think.

Maybe we'll get back to a meritocracy where the truly knowledgeable and truly wise displace those with paper degrees (which mean absolutely nothing).


maybe you can teach the masses quantum, teach them how to hate.


GFY

Quantum
27th May 2010, 10:38 PM
what bullsh*t, exactly right there is enough money for evil, but none for good. My mother taught in public schools in a large city for over 30 years, her highest pay was about 60k at the time that she retired after living with n her means for decades.


In other words, a government employee, teaching government ideology, to "urban youth."




I know the qualms the people have about public schools bit it is not the teachers (at least most of them) it is the federally issued rules and mandates that interfere.


Oh, it never is! ::)

Quantum
27th May 2010, 10:49 PM
another step further down for this nation..... :-\


9 out of 10 teachers regard you as an idiot and your faith a menace, Ken. I'm in the same boat with you.

See this for what it is: a release from the tyranny of professional indoctrination.

Buddha
27th May 2010, 10:53 PM
The more professional "teachers" this country has, the more ignorant the population is.

I don't see the implosion of the "educational" industry as a bad thing in the least. 90% of professional "teachers" are leftists, often Communists. They substituted Communist ideology - what to think - for the wisdom of how to think.

Maybe we'll get back to a meritocracy where the truly knowledgeable and truly wise displace those with paper degrees (which mean absolutely nothing).


maybe you can teach the masses quantum, teach them how to hate.


GFY

LOL then you can GTH

Buddha
27th May 2010, 10:54 PM
what bullsh*t, exactly right there is enough money for evil, but none for good. My mother taught in public schools in a large city for over 30 years, her highest pay was about 60k at the time that she retired after living with n her means for decades.


In other words, a government employee, teaching government ideology, to "urban youth."

You have no idea do you?



I know the qualms the people have about public schools bit it is not the teachers (at least most of them) it is the federally issued rules and mandates that interfere.


Oh, it never is! ::)

Mouse
27th May 2010, 11:12 PM
F all these agents of indoctrination. They should all be fired.

And the 23B for 100k teachers means

We are paying these shit for brains socialist indoctrinators $230,000 EACH to fill kids heads up with bullshit.

Cuff all the bastards.