Transformation and est........

[Ponce]

I always have known things and yet........I never knew the why that I knew it until tonight.

I took the est course back in 1977 and it was something that changed my life, ever since then I have been able to Skip the bull and see things for what they are..........when I hear the news or read the news I don't see it as most people do, I think of what made the news worthy of being in the news and who would benefit and who were they trying to hurts with their words.

I also realise that by talking about the Zionists as I do that I have created a prison of my own doing because the more that I talk about them the more famous that they will become.....I have become a line soldier for them because even by talking in a negative way about them I am helping to keep their name alive.

The "holocaust" is alive and well because they themselves keep on pushing it into our face just as I am doing by pushing the word "Zionist" into your face.

You all should know what is really going on at all time and all that you have to do is to placed yourselves in the mind of other in order to think as they do....this is something that I wrote before when I said "They are studien us and I am studien them"........the funny thing is that I don't try to solve the problems of what is going on in this world and yet I know the answer.......as with the algebra problems that I mentioned before.

What I am trying to say is that I was "transformed" by est but I don't know when it happened......... another puzzle piece in the life of Ponce hahahahahah.

PS: I will lnot stop talking about the Zionist because I don't want YOU to end up in prison.......even if it is only the prison of your mind where you believe what they are saying.........any other est member out there?

[gunDriller]

what i found fascinating about est was the sight of a few hundred people sitting in a room talking about anything & everything.

my parents were very close-lipped who had trouble talking with us kids about "life".

so when i came to California, i was a sitting duck for all the Jewish scam artists. i was super-naive.

i would say Rosenberg/ Erhard was primarily a scam artist, who did in some cases deliver value for his customers.

i had a friend who took the Landmark training who tried to recruit me for it. Landmark being the current incarnation of est.

for me, one of the primary revelations & transformations is to witness & realize the white supremacy & destructiveness of Zionists & Talmudic Jews.

[Twisted Titan]

BE YE TRANSFORMED BY THE RENEWING OF YOUR MIND........

[Ponce]

I have never heard of "Landmark"........in a way est was painfull but at the same time it opened my eyes to the real world.......all this time I though that I was a "speed reader" but in reality what I was doing was getting rid of the crap and getting to the meat of the matter.

I would like to say that I became a "better" person right away but I did not and when my transformation came and I didn't know about it.....it was only last night that I realise that it did happen, that's one reason why I didn't get mad when I lost part of my rice in stock, get a flat tire, bump my knee, trip and fall, over inflate my bike tire and it explodes, loose at playing cards, boil some water and forget about it, hit my hand with a crowbar..... to me is now only funny, I simply fix the problem and keep on going.

As you all can see I am a happy and open person and not afraid to open myself to other by sharing my life and as to what is going on hahahahahahah, maybe that's bad ..........but...........who cares because Ponce is Ponce.

[Quixote2]

Had to use google to see what est and Landmark was, the links are Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Seminars_Training

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landmark_Education

personal - no comment.

[Ponce]

Thanks 2, the new one is from est.......Randy was my instructor and I wonder if he is with the new group........will do some search.

[gunDriller]

i had Charlene Afremow the first weekend & Randy McNamara the second weekend.

wonder if there's pics of them ?

but one note for people who don't know what we're talking about - for a lot of people, est was kind of like an "outpatient cult" for a lot of people.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Charlene-Afremow/100000039853869#!/friends/?id=100000039853869

/\ Charlene's Facebook page; she lists Debby Erhard as one of her friends, so it's probably the same Charlene.

wonder if she still things i'm an Asshole ? 8)

[Ponce]

Gun? you still are (as I am) but probably a better one, like myself ;D

[gunDriller]

b]wonder if she still things i'm an Asshole ?[/b] 8)


my spelling has gone downhill. ;D

[Ponce]

As a member of est I know what you are saying....Ponce<-------talks Martian.