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Serpo
1st June 2010, 08:33 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/26/bp-oil-spill-live-feed-vi_n_590635.html

StackerKen
1st June 2010, 08:37 PM
seems to me they should have cut it a little higher up so there might be something to cap in the future
???

And...How is this spose to help?

Serpo
1st June 2010, 08:43 PM
Remains to be seen

Dave Thomas
1st June 2010, 08:53 PM
Wouldn't it be funny if you saw a huge alien hand crush the pipe shut, then grab the rover, and then all you'd see afterward was a blue screen / VIDEO LOST signal.

Be a great opening for a movie.

Cebu_4_2
1st June 2010, 08:59 PM
that an underwater band saw? Cool!

Dave Thomas
1st June 2010, 09:07 PM
Yeah they definitely cut into it now, I wonder if that little thing can hold on throughout the entire process.

Serpo
1st June 2010, 09:08 PM
Spraying out from saw cut now


How much is going to spew out once pipe is cut

Defender
1st June 2010, 09:14 PM
Spraying out from saw cut now


How much is going to spew out once pipe is cut
All of it.

Dave Thomas
1st June 2010, 09:30 PM
Look at that kink in the riser at the BOP. Surely that is gushing more than that horizontal pipe we've been staring at for two months.

Something tells me they the flow rate was egregiously minimized.

Cebu_4_2
1st June 2010, 09:36 PM
yea no sh!t, the kink is almost closed completely!

StackerKen
1st June 2010, 09:36 PM
yeah. That thing is gonna flow big time whey finish that cut

Horn
1st June 2010, 09:38 PM
When its finished both pieces will fall out of the pictured frame... ;D

Kali
1st June 2010, 09:42 PM
Here's an ignorant question...

If that oil can keep coming out indefinitely, where is it coming from?

I would think it would have to run out at some point.

willie pete
1st June 2010, 09:45 PM
Not really an ignorant question, who knows how vast the field is that drill tapped into, could be billions of barrels, it potentially could leak for years

StackerKen
1st June 2010, 09:46 PM
I think I read some where that it was a huge find

steveoc
1st June 2010, 09:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0TKAGaRvnw

StackerKen
1st June 2010, 10:14 PM
man....Its flowin pretty good bad now...

I don't think cutting it was such a good idea

zap
1st June 2010, 10:23 PM
Here's an ignorant question...

If that oil can keep coming out indefinitely, where is it coming from?

I would think it would have to run out at some point.


The oil fields out this way, discovered in 1947, but this oil is thick they use steam to get it out of the ground, the estimated ultimate recovery of 530,000,000 barrels.

Cebu_4_2
1st June 2010, 10:44 PM
Holy Jewish Jesus the part they are cutting is bending and only half way through it!

These guys really mean to fvck stuff up for us. Never saw such pressure in the works before.

Horn
1st June 2010, 11:04 PM
Really trying to drill it into U.S. citizen's heads to abandon future deep sea oil at this point...

StackerKen
1st June 2010, 11:07 PM
why not just take the bolts loose instead of all that cutting?

and then bolt another riser on.....hmmm

Cebu_4_2
1st June 2010, 11:08 PM
keep your eye on the spill as they throw the tricks beside us. why wasn't main street covering this and now they are covering it and the world against Israel?

old steel
1st June 2010, 11:20 PM
Another view.

http://www.wkrg.com/gulf_oil_spill/spill_cam/

Quixote2
1st June 2010, 11:24 PM
why not just take the bolts loose instead of all that cutting?

and then bolt another riser on.....hmmm


It has 2-3 miles of drill stem attached to the pipe by the crimp fold above the flange. The diamond saw is cutting the internal drill stem also.

StackerKen
1st June 2010, 11:28 PM
why not just take the bolts loose instead of all that cutting?

and then bolt another riser on.....hmmm


It has 2-3 miles of drill stem attached to the pipe by the crimp fold above the flange. The diamond saw is cutting the internal drill stem also.



Ohhh... I did not know that...Thank you

So when they get the drill stem cut then they can unbolt the old riser and bolt a new one?

Horn
1st June 2010, 11:28 PM
Is this the precursor to the doomed grommet method of sealing the leak, or something completely different?

Horn
1st June 2010, 11:31 PM
Also, shouldn't that piece of equipment be spinning around the pipe faster, like a pipe cutter?

StackerKen
1st June 2010, 11:48 PM
I know nothing horn...

seems like its taking a long time to cut....but that drill bit is probably some hard stuff

Horn
1st June 2010, 11:54 PM
I know nothing horn...

seems like its taking a long time to cut....but that drill bit is probably some hard stuff


Where's the sharks with laser beams attached to their frikin heads??!!!

http://climateprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/sharks_with_laser_beams-w72pgv-d.jpg

Cebu_4_2
2nd June 2010, 12:02 AM
might want to watch this now man, it's really happening.

Quantum
2nd June 2010, 12:40 AM
Spraying out from saw cut now


How much is going to spew out once pipe is cut


British Petroleum's estimate is 20% more oil spewing than before.

In other words, double the amount.

Serpo
2nd June 2010, 12:55 AM
So anything happen as it seems to have stopped now

Neuro
2nd June 2010, 12:58 AM
Spraying out from saw cut now


How much is going to spew out once pipe is cut


British Petroleum's estimate is 20% more oil spewing than before.

In other words, double the amount.

I think it stopped Gushing!


It is exploding out now!....

Serpo
2nd June 2010, 01:01 AM
Yes see it now ,you are right exploding and gushing out heaps more

Serpo
2nd June 2010, 01:05 AM
So if they can cap it great,if not .............very BAD

ximmy
2nd June 2010, 01:06 AM
They gotta get that oil out and spreading across the gulf as fast as possible

Serpo
2nd June 2010, 01:23 AM
Here's an ignorant question...

If that oil can keep coming out indefinitely, where is it coming from?

I would think it would have to run out at some point.


24 years one expert said

Serpo
2nd June 2010, 01:27 AM

Neuro
2nd June 2010, 08:31 AM
They gotta get that oil out and spreading across the gulf as fast as possible


Maybe they can pull out the drill stem, that must impede flow to a large extent...

Defender
2nd June 2010, 12:26 PM
Bloomberg has started showing a ticker panel saying it could be Christmas before the leak is stopped. Getting the people ready for worse news? I've been out of the news loop today, what happened to August?

Neuro
2nd June 2010, 03:14 PM
Bloomberg has started showing a ticker panel saying it could be Christmas before the leak is stopped. Getting the people ready for worse news? I've been out of the news loop today, what happened to August?

August, that is BP's corporate holiday month. September will be mostly reading up on e-mails, talking holiday memories with the co-workers. October will be spent mostly on meetings, towards the end of the month the daily grind sets in, work work work, then in mid November its time for holiday season preparation, decorating the tree, speculations whether the bonus will increase as usual (it will) Hanukka cakes... Maybe April next year... We'll see!

Dave Thomas
2nd June 2010, 04:54 PM
It's a wire cutter. Last I heard the wire seized about 1/4 of the way into the pipe. They had to take the cutter topside to clean it out. I don't know if they've resumed cutting. The flow has definitely increased since the cutting was started. I hope they hurry up with this thing.

Serpo
2nd June 2010, 06:30 PM
With the ambitious "top kill" abandoned over the weekend, BP's hope to stanch the leak lies with two relief wells that won't be finished until at least August. The company is, however, trying another risky temporary fix to contain the oil and siphon it to the surface by sawing through the leaking pipe and putting a cap over the spill.

Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the national incident commander, said Tuesday that BP was making its first major cut with super sheers that weigh 46,000 pounds and resemble a giant garden tool. The company will also use a powerful diamond-edged cutter the resembles a deli slicer to try to make a clean cut above the blowout preventer, then will lower a cap over it with a rubber seal.

After several failed attempts to divert or block the well, BP's latest attempt involves cutting the broken riser pipe, making it spew as much as 20 percent more oil into the water for days while engineers try to position a cap over the opening.

Eric Smith, an associate director of the Tulane Energy Institute, said the strategy had about a 50 to 70 percent chance to succeed. He likened it to trying to place a tiny cap on a fire hydrant.

"Will they have enough weight to overcome the force of the flow?" he said. "It could create a lot of turbulence, but I do think they'll have enough weight."

BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles said there was no guarantee the cut-and-cap effort would work. He did say the company has learned from past efforts to contain the leak, which gives them a better shot at success.

"I'm very hopeful," Suttles said. "I think we'll find out over the next couple of days."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9106621

Spectrism
2nd June 2010, 07:52 PM
If they are not using multiple guide cables to do this, they don't have a chance. AS soon as they try to make the seal, they will experience a pressure surge. The size of this riser pipe is not being mentioned. If it is smaller than the 21 inch they are replacing, it will be very interesting.

mick silver
2nd June 2010, 08:08 PM
deep oil drilling will never end they will find a country that want some money bad enough and they will drill

mick silver
2nd June 2010, 08:09 PM
what make me mad is how much they have lie about how much oil down there ... the numbers keep growing

LuckyStrike
2nd June 2010, 08:20 PM
IDK if this has been brought up before but I was thinking about this today.

What would happen if we had some hurricanes come through in the next few months? Would it take the oil up and rain it down on land? It would definitely put a damper on the cleanup efforts.

StackerKen
2nd June 2010, 08:38 PM
I wonder when and if the live feed camera is going to go back to showing the riser and the gusher

Looks pretty murky down there now

keehah
2nd June 2010, 11:03 PM
Tuesday they had a cable run big metal crab arm like bolt cutter that failed to cut the other end of the pipe.

As for hurricanes, perhaps the oil on the surface will weaken storms. Interfere with the water and energy cycling in some way.

Serpo
3rd June 2010, 04:23 AM
PENSACOLA, Fla. — BP fumbled its latest underwater experiment with the wild Gulf gusher – just like every other endeavor the company has tried to fix the nation's worst oil spill and BP's chief executive said the company wasn't fully prepared for the disaster.

First, a 100-ton, four-story box couldn't contain the spill because icelike crystals clogged the top. Then, a straw-like device that actually did capture crude was inconsistent at best. The supposed top kill – shooting heavy mud and junk into the well – couldn't overcome the pressure of the oil. And the most recent risky gambit ran into trouble a mile under the sea Wednesday when a diamond-tipped saw became stuck after slicing through about half of the blown-out well.

It took BP 12 hours to free the saw, and the company hopes to use giant shears similar to an oversized garden tool to snip off the pipe. However, the cut won't be as clean if successful, and a looser fitting cap will have to be placed over the spill.

No timetable was given for when that might start, a familiar refrain in this six-week-old disaster.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/03/bp-cutandcap-plug-attempt_n_598721.html

StackerKen
3rd June 2010, 10:29 AM
They don't know what the hell they are doing...


Or do they ???


It's really hard for me to believe those people could be so incompetent

Cebu_4_2
3rd June 2010, 11:28 AM
they are doing something now.