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cedarchopper
2nd June 2010, 12:17 PM
Helpless victims, couldn't shoot back.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100602/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_shooting

UK taxi driver kills 12, wounds 25 in England
By SCOTT HEPPELL and JILL LAWLESS, Associated Press Writer Scott Heppell And Jill Lawless, Associated Press Writer 29 mins ago

SEASCALE, England – A taxi driver drove his vehicle on a shooting spree across a tranquil stretch of northwest England on Wednesday, methodically killing 12 people and wounding 25 others before turning the gun on himself, officials said.

The rampage in the county of Cumbria was Britain's deadliest mass shooting since 1996 and it jolted a country where handguns are banned and multiple shootings rare.

The body of the suspected gunman, 52-year-old Derrick Bird, was found in woods near Boot, a hamlet popular with hikers and vacationers in England's hilly, scenic Lake District. Police said two weapons were recovered from the scene.

Three of the wounded were in critical condition in a hospital. The shootings had "shocked the people of Cumbria and around the country to the core," Police Deputy Chief Constable Stuart Hyde said.

Police said it was too early to say what the killer's motive was, or whether the shootings had been random. Some reports said Bird had quarreled with fellow cab drivers the night before the killings.

Peter Leder, a taxi driver who knew Bird, said he had seen the gunman Tuesday and didn't notice anything that was obviously amiss. But he was struck by Bird's departing words.

"When he left he said, 'See you Peter, but I won't see you again,'" Leder told Channel 4 News.

The first shootings were reported in the coastal town of Whitehaven, about 350 miles (560 kilometers) northwest of London. Witnesses said the dead there included two of Bird's fellow cabbies.

Police warned residents to stay indoors as they tracked the gunman's progress across the county. Witnesses described seeing the gunman driving around shooting from the window of his car.

Victims died in Seascale and Egremont, near Whitehaven, and in Gosforth, where a farmer's son was shot dead in a field. Workers at the nearby Sellafield nuclear processing plant were ordered to stay inside while the gunman was on the loose.

Hyde said there were 30 separate crime scenes. Many bodies remained on the ground late Wednesday, covered with sheets, awaiting the region's small and overstretched force of forensic officers.

Barrie Walker, a doctor in Seascale who certified one of the deaths, told the BBC that victims had been shot in the face, apparently with a shotgun.

Lyn Edwards, 59, a youth worker in Seascale, said she saw a man who had been shot in his car.

"I could see a man screaming and I could see blood and there were two ladies helping him at the time," she said.

Deadly shootings are rare in Britain, where gun ownership is tightly restricted. In recent years, there have been fewer than 100 gun murders annually across the country.

Rules on gun ownership were tightened after two massacres in the 1980s and 1990s. In 1987, gun enthusiast Michael Ryan killed 16 people in the English town of Hungerford. In 1996, Thomas Hamilton killed 16 children and a teacher at a primary school in Dunblane, Scotland.

About 600,000 people in Britain legally own a shotgun, most of them farmers and hunters in rural areas. Witnesses described Bird as using a shotgun or a rifle.

Prime Minister David Cameron said the government would do everything it could to help the affected region.

"When lives and communities are suddenly shattered in this way, our thoughts should be with all those caught up in these tragic events, especially the families and friends of those killed or injured," he told lawmakers in the House of Commons.

Local lawmaker Jamie Reed said people in the quiet area were in shock.

"This kind of thing doesn't happen in our part of the world," he told the BBC. "We have got one of the lowest, if not the lowest, crime rates in the country."

Glenda Pears, who runs L&G Taxis in Whitehaven, said one of the victims was another taxi driver who was a friend of Bird's.

"They used to stand together having a (laugh) on the rank," she said. "He was friends with everybody and used to stand and joke on Duke Street."

Sue Matthews, who works at A2B Taxis in Whitehaven, said Bird was self-employed, quiet and lived alone.

"I would say he was fairly popular. I would see him once a week out and about. He was known as 'Birdy,'" she said. "I can't believe he would do that — he was a quiet little fellow."

Emergency services were still working late Wednesday to identify all the dead and inform their families.

Rod Davies, landlord of Gosforth Hall Inn near one of the crime scenes, said residents were "used to 'neighbor's cat missing' stories making the news — not this sort of thing.

"There's a lot of fear. A lot of people are expecting to hear names of people they know."

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Jill Lawless reported from London. Associated Press Writer Andrew Khouri also contributed to this report.

Brent
2nd June 2010, 12:23 PM
Gun control working as expected.

k-os
2nd June 2010, 12:25 PM
This is very sad. Too bad the community was not armed and able to defend themselves.

zusn
2nd June 2010, 12:57 PM
This is very sad. Too bad the community was not armed and able to defend themselves.
That's such archaic thinking. What they need are better gun laws to ensure this never happens again. :sarc: Civilized societies don't need guns. (had a guy tell me that once, hahaha)

JohnQPublic
2nd June 2010, 01:03 PM
Good thing the community members did not have guns. They probably would have missed and killed an innocent person. :sarc:

Twisted Titan
2nd June 2010, 01:04 PM
Why I Carry a Gun.



My old grandpa said to me, "Son, there comes a time in every man's life when he stops bustin' knuckles and starts bustin' caps and usually it's when he becomes too old to take an ass whoopin'." I don't carry a gun to kill people. I carry a gun to keep from being killed. I don't carry a gun to scare people. I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place. I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid. I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world. I don't carry a gun because I'm evil. I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world. I don't carry a gun because I hate the government. I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government. I don't carry a gun because I'm angry. I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared. I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone. I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon. I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man. I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love. I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate. I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate. I don't carry a gun because I love it.. I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me." Police Protection" is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves. Police do not protect you from crime; they investigate the crime after it happens. and then try to clean up the mess. Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take the ass whoopin'."..author unknown (but obviously brilliant)


Remember the average response time to a 911 call is over 4 minutes.

The Average response time of a 357 magnum is 1400 Feet Per Second .



T

I am me, I am free
2nd June 2010, 01:47 PM
This clearly demonstrates why automobiles should be banned.

Gaillo
2nd June 2010, 01:51 PM
Local lawmaker Jamie Reed said people in the quiet area were in shock.

"This kind of thing doesn't happen in our part of the world," he told the BBC.

Apparently they DO happen in your part of the world, moron!

Twisted Titan
2nd June 2010, 01:55 PM
Local lawmaker Jamie Reed said people in the quiet area were in shock.

"This kind of thing doesn't happen in our part of the world," he told the BBC.

Apparently they DO happen in your part of the world, moron!


"We have got one of the lowest, if not the lowest, crime rates in the country."


I almost choked on my sweetpotatoe fries when I read that .



T

NickMaverick
4th June 2010, 02:50 PM
Local lawmaker Jamie Reed said people in the quiet area were in shock.

"This kind of thing doesn't happen in our part of the world," he told the BBC.

Apparently they DO happen in your part of the world, moron!


I will extend his comment. Up until that tragic day I would safely say that there has been no gun related deaths in that part of the UK for 100 years.
Gun crimes just doesn't happen there.







"We have got one of the lowest, if not the lowest, crime rates in the country."


I almost choked on my sweetpotatoe fries when I read that .



T


What he said is very true, it does have a very low crime rate and certainly not this type of crime.