Rachel Corrie boarded without incident.

[Gypsybiker45]

Israel Boarded the Rachel Corrie without incident this morning,

Link to Article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100605/ap_on_re_mi_ea/gaza_blockade_29;_ylt=AuTzry6wyHX4aQRgK6IPaAlH2ocA ;_ylu=X3oDMTE2Y2hlb2R1BHBvcwMyBHNlYwN5bi1yLWItbGVm dARzbGsDZXYtaXNyYWVsaWZv)


Again, I have no interest in either faction of this, Hamas didnt want the supplies, where is the outrage on this?
Im sick of these idiots. people suffer and its all politics.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100605/ap_on_re_us/gaza_blockade_12


EDIT: Changed long link to named link to prevent horizontal scrolling. -Gaillo

[Brent]

Source for Hamas not wanting the supplies? I couldn't find it in either article.

[philo beddoe]

Source for Hamas not wanting the supplies? I couldn't find it in either article.
It's not there......maybe that was a quip from Glenn Beck?

[Horn]

Apparently genocide from blockade has the U.S. seal of approval?

[Gypsybiker45]

Source for Hamas not wanting the supplies? I couldn't find it in either article.


mid bottom of second article

Meanwhile, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh said the Islamic militants have refused to accept any aid from the Israeli-intercepted flotilla. "We are not seeking to fill our (bellies), we are looking to break the Israeli siege on Gaza," he said http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100605/ap_on_re_us/gaza_blockade_12

[Gypsybiker45]

Source for Hamas not wanting the supplies? I couldn't find it in either article.
It's not there......maybe that was a quip from Glenn Beck?


Before you guys start your shit, read the whole article. Its there, look for it. mid bottom of second article and I reposted it for Brent once.

[philo beddoe]

Source for Hamas not wanting the supplies? I couldn't find it in either article.
It's not there......maybe that was a quip from Glenn Beck?


Before you guys start your sh*t, read the whole article. Its there, look for it. mid bottom of second article and I reposted it for Brent once.
1) That's a quote from one guy
2) It may or may not be true, and it may be mistranslated
3)He does not represent all the Palestinians
4) It sounds like he is saying he does not want it after Israel got their hands on it, meaning it will only be a piddle, and he knows Israel will go right back to blocking all goods again

[Gypsybiker45]

#3 and #4 of your response +100, I just think its an asinine response considering how bad the population is suffering. Philo, you and I have had disagreements and outright fights, but as much as you dislike the Native Americans, You have to see that this is beginning to mirror the Reservation System at a rapid rate. Hamas and Israel both need to be removed from authority over these people. Natives used to talk about "Live around the Fort" Indians, these were collaborators with US forces. Hamas was installed out of desperation by the Palestinians, now they just bring Israels wrath down on them. If a true representation of these people is not brought to power soon, they will all die away.

[Horn]

Source for Hamas not wanting the supplies? I couldn't find it in either article.


mid bottom of second article

Meanwhile, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh said the Islamic militants have refused to accept any aid from the Israeli-intercepted flotilla. "We are not seeking to fill our (bellies), we are looking to break the Israeli siege on Gaza," he said http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100605/ap_on_re_us/gaza_blockade_12




Would you accept poisoned goods passed thru enemy hands?

[philo beddoe]

#3 and #4 of your response +100, I just think its an asinine response considering how bad the population is suffering. Philo, you and I have had disagreements and outright fights, but as much as you dislike the Native Americans, You have to see that this is beginning to mirror the Reservation System at a rapid rate. Hamas and Israel both need to be removed from authority over these people. Natives used to talk about "Live around the Fort" Indians, these were collaborators with US forces. Hamas was installed out of desperation by the Palestinians, now they just bring Israels wrath down on them. If a true representation of these people is not brought to power soon, they will all die away.
I actually have no fight with native Americans.. But if somebody fights with me, I am going to insult wherever I can. I have a fight with mexis coming here from Jalisco telling us this is 'aztlan'. Do I think granting Indians casinos while whitey gets none is fair? no, but that is another issue

[Neuro]

#3 and #4 of your response +100, I just think its an asinine response considering how bad the population is suffering. Philo, you and I have had disagreements and outright fights, but as much as you dislike the Native Americans, You have to see that this is beginning to mirror the Reservation System at a rapid rate. Hamas and Israel both need to be removed from authority over these people. Natives used to talk about "Live around the Fort" Indians, these were collaborators with US forces. Hamas was installed out of desperation by the Palestinians, now they just bring Israels wrath down on them. If a true representation of these people is not brought to power soon, they will all die away.

I think you are right. I read a link on GIM that Hamas from the beginning was an Israeli/Likud creation to destabilize Arafat and PLO, or at least greatly assisted by the Israeli government initially with release of Hamas leaders from Israeli prisons... The reason being that Israels uncompromising stance in the Palestinian issue could only be justified by having a counterpart that also were uncompromising! I am not a great supporter of the UN, but I do believe that the current deadlock of Gaza and the West Bank could only be broken by having a multinational force taking over government of these territories. With local democratic elected city governments making everyday policy decisions outside of security issues.

I think this is the only possible way forward. The hatred on the opposite lines of the fence is just to big to be able to eke out any type of compromise!

[Quantum]

the Native Americans


Anyone born in America is a "native American."

I presume you mean American Indian?



You have to see that this is beginning to mirror the Reservation System at a rapid rate. Hamas and Israel both need to be removed from authority over these people.


If you really believe the latter part, then you would endorse the "democratically-elected" Hamas. No Israel = No Hamas. Hamas arose because of the decades-long displacement of the natives from their land. As an Indian, you should know better than supporting the invaders ("Israel").

[Gypsybiker45]

#3 and #4 of your response +100, I just think its an asinine response considering how bad the population is suffering. Philo, you and I have had disagreements and outright fights, but as much as you dislike the Native Americans, You have to see that this is beginning to mirror the Reservation System at a rapid rate. Hamas and Israel both need to be removed from authority over these people. Natives used to talk about "Live around the Fort" Indians, these were collaborators with US forces. Hamas was installed out of desperation by the Palestinians, now they just bring Israels wrath down on them. If a true representation of these people is not brought to power soon, they will all die away.
I actually have no fight with native Americans.. But if somebody fights with me, I am going to insult wherever I can. I have a fight with mexis coming here from Jalisco telling us this is 'aztlan'. Do I think granting Indians casinos while whitey gets none is fair? no, but that is another issue



I agree, eiether legalize gambling or not. discussion for another thread.

[Gypsybiker45]

the Native Americans


Anyone born in America is a "native American."

I presume you mean American Indian?



You have to see that this is beginning to mirror the Reservation System at a rapid rate. Hamas and Israel both need to be removed from authority over these people.


If you really believe the latter part, then you would endorse the "democratically-elected" Hamas. No Israel = No Hamas. Hamas arose because of the decades-long displacement of the natives from their land. As an Indian, you should know better than supporting the invaders ("Israel").


Hamas is not the savior of the Palestinians . Not supporting Hamas is Not supporting Israel, that is a "With us or against us" View.Again, I dont support either group, Zionists or Hamas, but I do support the Human rights of Palestinians.

[Quantum]

Hamas is not the savior of the Palestinians . Not supporting Hamas is Not supporting Israel, that is a "With us or against us" View.Again, I dont support either group, Zionists or Hamas, but I do support the Human rights of Palestinians.


NOTHING except BRUTE FORCE will make "Israel" stop its satanic behavior. All the "diplomacy" and "sanctions" in the world won't stop them. Hamas needs MORE weapons, not less. Again, Hamas is the product of "Israel" & its behavior - no "Israel" = No Hamas.

I'd love to see peace come to the Middle East, but when satanic forces operating under the guise of being "godly" continue their wicked work, force will remain a fact there.

If people want to stop "Islamic terrorism," they need to forcibly stop Talmud "Jew" terrorism.

[Slimer]

[/quote]

Hamas is not the savior of the Palestinians . Not supporting Hamas is Not supporting Israel, that is a "With us or against us" View.Again, I dont support either group, Zionists or Hamas, but I do support the Human rights of Palestinians.
[/quote]

Be careful about not taking sides on this board. Any neutral parties are immediately attacked as supporting the JOOS and are ZIONISTS.

[Desolation LineTrimmer]

Be careful about not taking sides on this board. Any neutral parties are immediately attacked as supporting the JOOS and are ZIONISTS.


Debate what you believe in and don't be overly concerned with being unpopular.

[willie pete]

I was wondering what happened to all the ships israel stopped, including the mose recent, it appears they're all in an israeli port, I suppose they'll keep them?

[Large Sarge]

I was wondering what happened to all the ships israel stopped, including the mose recent, it appears they're all in an israeli port, I suppose they'll keep them?


steal 80% of the cargo (sold on the black market)

hijack the ships, pack them all full of ice, and ship out the recently harvested palestinian organs in them.

making money coming and going

[Quantum]

Any neutral parties are immediately attacked as supporting the JOOS and are ZIONISTS.


There are no neutral parties. You either speak in favor of those who have lived there for millennia, or you support the invaders actively or by silence.

It's like walking by a woman being raped on the street..."I'm neutral, I won't get involved (by calling 911)."

[Desolation LineTrimmer]

There are no neutral parties. You either speak in favor of those who have lived there for millennia, or you support the invaders actively or by silence.



Didn't the Arab population conquer the Holy Land iin roughly 600 AD? The Turks conquered Constantinople and now call it Istanbul. The English conquered Turtle Island and now call it America.

[Bildo]

Source for Hamas not wanting the supplies? I couldn't find it in either article.


mid bottom of second article

Meanwhile, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh said the Islamic militants have refused to accept any aid from the Israeli-intercepted flotilla. "We are not seeking to fill our (bellies), we are looking to break the Israeli siege on Gaza," he said http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100605/ap_on_re_us/gaza_blockade_12




Mr. Haniyeh never said that he didn't want any supplies - AP writer Jewess Amy Teibel did. Nothing in Ismail Haniyeh's quote states they've refused aid.

If we can infer anything from his quote, it's that getting just food is not enough to eliminate the Palestinian suffering and they are looking for help to stop the Israelis so his people can be free to feed themselves.

[StackerKen]

:o

I guess I should Have read this thread before I started the one where I asked really dumb question

[Quantum]

There are no neutral parties. You either speak in favor of those who have lived there for millennia, or you support the invaders actively or by silence.



Didn't the Arab population conquer the Holy Land iin roughly 600 AD? The Turks conquered Constantinople and now call it Istanbul. The English conquered Turtle Island and now call it America.



If you're trying to make a point with me, please demonstrate the courage of your convictions by moving out of America.

Are we slaughtering Indians and blockading their reservations? Or are we handing them billions of dollars via slot machines and card tables?

Palestine is happening NOW.

[Desolation LineTrimmer]

There are no neutral parties. You either speak in favor of those who have lived there for millennia, or you support the invaders actively or by silence.



Didn't the Arab population conquer the Holy Land iin roughly 600 AD? The Turks conquered Constantinople and now call it Istanbul. The English conquered Turtle Island and now call it America.



If you're trying to make a point with me, please demonstrate the courage of your convictions by moving out of America.[

Are we slaughtering Indians and blockading their reservations? Or are we handing them billions of dollars via slot machines and card tables?

Palestine is happening NOW.


I'm not pro-Israeli, but I think your categorical statement that a person cannot be neutral concerning the question is wrong. People can always choose neutrality when it comes to politics. A person can simply be apolitical, and be within their rights, and not, as you say, be implicitly guilty of aiding and abetting. Some people choose neutrality simply for peace of mind. I'm not that way, but sometimes I think I should be. The world has a way of working itself out even if one remains detached. Jews do have a historical connection with the Holy Land. They are basically the ones who made it the Holy Land to begin with. They are the ones who got the whole Judeo-Christian-Islamic ball rolling with the contribution of their sages. I think the foundation of political Israel was a mistake, but the fact that Jews want to take the Holy Land for themselves does not surprise me. Christians themselves attempted to do so. It is a region of the world centrally located to world trade routes and has always been fought over; and I think it always will be. More than anything else it is clear to me that America's interest is not served by being involved in this Jewish territorial grab. Not only that, but Jews themselves are not exactly friendly to White people politically, so, quid pro quo, I do not support them.

[Brent]

Source for Hamas not wanting the supplies? I couldn't find it in either article.


mid bottom of second article

Meanwhile, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh said the Islamic militants have refused to accept any aid from the Israeli-intercepted flotilla. "We are not seeking to fill our (bellies), we are looking to break the Israeli siege on Gaza," he said http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100605/ap_on_re_us/gaza_blockade_12




It isn't true that they won't accept the supplies, only that they won't accept supplies that first must pass through Israeli hands.

Clearly they just don't want supplies that the Israelis would have had a chance to mess with. Although I can't imagine why they wouldn't trust their captors to not do anything to the stuff. Prison guards always have the best interests of their prisoners at heart. lol

[Brent]

Any neutral parties are immediately attacked as supporting the JOOS and are ZIONISTS.


There are no neutral parties. You either speak in favor of those who have lived there for millennia, or you support the invaders actively or by silence.

It's like walking by a woman being raped on the street..."I'm neutral, I won't get involved (by calling 911)."


Wherever you are currently living, there was a people or animal that was displaced so that you can live there. You are an invader.

How do you think land is gained? Did we all just pop up from the ground in our respective areas?

The Israelis have every natural right to have land with which to expand their species.

Not that I would expect you to understand any of this, from your posts I have come to the conclusion that you are highly confused and quite possibly insane.

[Brent]

There are no neutral parties. You either speak in favor of those who have lived there for millennia, or you support the invaders actively or by silence.



Didn't the Arab population conquer the Holy Land iin roughly 600 AD? The Turks conquered Constantinople and now call it Istanbul. The English conquered Turtle Island and now call it America.



If you're trying to make a point with me, please demonstrate the courage of your convictions by moving out of America.

Are we slaughtering Indians and blockading their reservations? Or are we handing them billions of dollars via slot machines and card tables?

Palestine is happening NOW.


So by your "logic" it would be "ok" if the Israelis just started paying the Palestinians off?

I think you would be hard pressed to find an Indian who would claim that they are better off now than they were before they were conquered.

You can't whine and cry about invaders over in Palestine and then dismiss your own invasion of America since the natives are being paid off.

Actually you can, and are. But you can't do it without someone like me calling you out on your hypocrisy.

Have a nice day, hypocrite!

By the way, Jews (you know the "satanic" ones you are always going on about) are highly hypocritical people. They preach one code of morality for themselves while promoting an entirely opposite one for the gentiles. Seems that you have more in common with Jews than you would think.

[Quantum]

The Israelis have every natural right to have land with which to expand their species.

Not that I would expect you to understand any of this, from your posts I have come to the conclusion that you are highly confused and quite possibly insane.


LOL - LOL - LOL

A Zionist such as yourself suggesting I am "confused" and "possibly insane."

:D ;D :D ;D

[Quantum]

your own invasion of America


Where is it that I live? Be very specific.




Actually you can, and are. But you can't do it without someone like me calling you out on your hypocrisy.

Have a nice day, hypocrite!


Where is it that I live? Be very specific.




By the way, Jews (you know the "satanic" ones you are always going on about) are highly hypocritical people. They preach one code of morality for themselves while promoting an entirely opposite one for the gentiles. Seems that you have more in common with Jews than you would think.


Aren't you the guy who used to use the Ben Klassen avatar?

[Brent]

your own invasion of America


Where is it that I live? Be very specific.




Actually you can, and are. But you can't do it without someone like me calling you out on your hypocrisy.

Have a nice day, hypocrite!


Where is it that I live? Be very specific.




By the way, Jews (you know the "satanic" ones you are always going on about) are highly hypocritical people. They preach one code of morality for themselves while promoting an entirely opposite one for the gentiles. Seems that you have more in common with Jews than you would think.


Aren't you the guy who used to use the Ben Klassen avatar?


Wow don't refute my posts all at once. LOL

And yes I used to have BK as my avatar. (Now I will wait for the usual smears of "pedophile" "Jew" "Homosexual" ect)

If you read my post again I said "wherever you live" then once you started talking about Indians I assumed you lived in the US.

[Quantum]

your own invasion of America


Where is it that I live? Be very specific.




Actually you can, and are. But you can't do it without someone like me calling you out on your hypocrisy.

Have a nice day, hypocrite!


Where is it that I live? Be very specific.




By the way, Jews (you know the "satanic" ones you are always going on about) are highly hypocritical people. They preach one code of morality for themselves while promoting an entirely opposite one for the gentiles. Seems that you have more in common with Jews than you would think.


Aren't you the guy who used to use the Ben Klassen avatar?


Wow don't refute my posts all at once. LOL

And yes I used to have BK as my avatar. (Now I will wait for the usual smears of "pedophile" "Jew" "Homosexual" ect)

If you read my post again I said "wherever you live" then once you started talking about Indians I assumed you lived in the US.


Wow, I see you were merely projecting when you accused me of being "possibly insane." A Ben Klassen supporter who supports the Jews? OMG. I really can't laugh - it's so pathetic.

Oh, and I said nothing about "pedophile" or "Jew" or "homosexual" about Klassen. Are you trying to tell us something?

Still waiting for you to tell me specifically where I live, since you said "your own invasion of America." (you say, in your profile, you live in the USSA - speak of hypocrisy!!)

[Brent]

Wow, I see you were merely projecting when you accused me of being "possibly insane." A Ben Klassen supporter who supports the Jews? OMG. I really can't laugh - it's so pathetic.

I would hardly say I "support" the Jews. I just support the Jews natural rights to expand their race just as I support every races natural rights. I still consider them my enemies but I am not a hypocrite, I believe they have the same natural rights as my race.

Oh, and I said nothing about "pedophile" or "Jew" or "homosexual" about Klassen. Are you trying to tell us something?

No, I was just listing the usual smears that are used whenever this great man is mentioned.

Still waiting for you to tell me specifically where I live, since you said "your own invasion of America." (you say, in your profile, you live in the USSA - speak of hypocrisy!!)

See the following.



In this quote you say "are WE" and again "or are WE". By saying "We" you suggest that you are an American.




If you're trying to make a point with me, please demonstrate the courage of your convictions by moving out of America.

Are we slaughtering Indians and blockading their reservations? Or are we handing them billions of dollars via slot machines and card tables?

Palestine is happening NOW.


Yes I live in the US, now show me where I am a hypocrite. I would love to hear it.

Edit: I just have to note that I love destroying people like yourself on these forums. I know I always get a good guffaw out of seeing people stick their feet in their mouths. If anyone wants to throw me a tip for the intellectual beating I have given (and will continue to give) Quantum I accept cash, check, or money orders. (Just kidding I have enough fun with this I don't mind doing it for free)

[Quantum]

Edit: I just have to note that I love destroying people like yourself on these forums.


ROTFLMAO



If anyone wants to throw me a tip for the intellectual beating


We know you're beating something, but it's not in a battle of wits. In such conflict, you are quite unarmed.

[Brent]

Edit: I just have to note that I love destroying people like yourself on these forums.


ROTFLMAO



If anyone wants to throw me a tip for the intellectual beating


We know you're beating something, but it's not in a battle of wits. In such conflict, you are quite unarmed.


Again nothing to refute what I said, just more nonsense.

[Quantum]

Again nothing to refute what I said, just more nonsense.


Dude, you're a Master Baiter and I'm not going to put my foot into your trap. Got it?

[Buddha]

So... How about that Rachel Corrie?

[wildcard]

They knew they could get away with killing some arabs. If they start whacking white people then the cash flow from American/European churches would probably be cut off considerably.