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KumbayaMan
7th June 2010, 10:07 AM
MEDICAL professionals helped the CIA perfect legal but harsh interrogation methods for terror suspects during the George W. Bush administration, according to a new report.


So-called "enhanced" questioning methods such as waterboarding were monitored and varied by medics in order to produce maximum effect while remaining within the limits established by government lawyers, according to the report released by Physicians for Human Rights.

The report described "Waterboarding 2.0" in which doctors apparently recommended adding saline to the water used to simulate drowning so as to reduce the risk of suspects falling into a coma induced by hyperhydration.

Health professionals allegedly also had a hand in monitoring sleep deprivation of up to 180 hours and experimentation on how to increase a subject's "susceptibility to severe pain".

"Any health professional who violates their ethical codes by employing their professional expertise to calibrate and study the infliction of harm disgraces the health profession and makes a mockery of the practice of medicine," lead writer of the report Dr Scott Allen said.

The group calls on US President Barack Obama to initiate a federal investigation into the claims and prosecute those responsible. It also asks Congress to amend legislation passed in 2006 that allows a "more permissive definition of the crime of illegal experimentation on detainees".

"The CIA appears to have broken all accepted legal and ethical standards put in place since the Second World War to protect prisoners from being the subjects of experimentation," said Frank Donaghue, PHR's Chief Executive Officer.

"Not only are these alleged acts gross violations of human rights law, they are a grave affront to America's core values."

Link to Article (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/doctors-helped-cia-perfect-torture-technique/story-e6freuyi-1225876656435)


EDIT: Changed long link to named link to prevent horizontal scrolling. -Gaillo

Grand Master Melon
7th June 2010, 10:28 AM
So I guess those same doctors opposed to waterboarding would also abhor the doctors that perform abortions.

KumbayaMan
7th June 2010, 10:49 AM
So I guess those same doctors opposed to waterboarding would also abhor the doctors that perform abortions.


Well..... Since both (torture and abortion) are in conflict with the oath they took..... This would be the logical conclusion...

Grand Master Melon
7th June 2010, 10:50 AM
So I guess those same doctors opposed to waterboarding would also abhor the doctors that perform abortions.


Well..... Since both (torture and abortion) are in conflict with the oath they took..... This would be the logical conclusion...


Agreed but I'd be it's not their view.

SLV^GLD
7th June 2010, 01:56 PM
Well, there you have it. You have identified a logical hypocrisy. So, I guess that just discredits the entire spirit of the article and we can just safely ignore any merit that might have been in the article that had NOTHING TO DO WITH ABORTION until a troll brought it up just to push that button guaranteed to divide the people.

We should just avoid discussing the actual subject matter in the article... end sarcasm.

Twisted Titan
7th June 2010, 02:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSF0e6oO_tw

k-os
7th June 2010, 04:44 PM
Agreed. Twisted Titan, you should put that in the Sources of Information thread.

Olmstein
7th June 2010, 05:39 PM
So I guess those same doctors opposed to waterboarding would also abhor the doctors that perform abortions.


Well..... Since both (torture and abortion) are in conflict with the oath they took..... This would be the logical conclusion...


Agreed but I'd be it's not their view.


That's Dr Ron Paul's view. No torture and No abortion.

KumbayaMan
7th June 2010, 06:46 PM
So I guess those same doctors opposed to waterboarding would also abhor the doctors that perform abortions.


Well..... Since both (torture and abortion) are in conflict with the oath they took..... This would be the logical conclusion...


Agreed but I'd be it's not their view.

Not sure what your getting at GMM.....? :oo-->


Well, there you have it. You have identified a logical hypocrisy. So, I guess that just discredits the entire spirit of the article and we can just safely ignore any merit that might have been in the article that had NOTHING TO DO WITH ABORTION until a troll brought it up just to push that button guaranteed to divide the people.

We should just avoid discussing the actual subject matter in the article... end sarcasm.

Oh, got it.... ;D

KumbayaMan
7th June 2010, 06:48 PM
Also, great video TT... That about sums it up don't it...?