Lindsey Williams speaks about BP Oil Catastrophe Part 1 of 4

[Serpo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DjnoMTa2oQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScXHDfXQdog&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybl2pgva6ew&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A86pZiUstNc&feature=related

[Ponce]

"And many will die"... Ponce

They are all comfirming what I have beein saying from day one... those people can only see what is infront of them and not what would happen when thing got out of hand........as they are now.

[Serpo]

Pandoras Box

[osoab]

What bothers me is AJ.

I have not listened to him much recently, but his lack of any immediacy of this catastrophe is amazing. I was listening to this when it aired. AJ amitted many times that he has no read much into the spew. He seemed to have an idea of the share selling that preceeded the blow out.

How much is exageration? I am listening to steve quail now. He just stated a while ago that the spew is 1,000,000 barrels a day. From his sources of course. :oo-->

He put the flow @ 100,000 barrels a day if I remember. Fits with Simmons, but Simmons is CFR.

I tend to agree that willams said from everything that I have been able to read.

All I know, is that the gov just upped their flow rate to a 20,000 to 30,000 barrels a day.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1025362520100610


WASHINGTON, June 10 (Reuters) - The chairman of a U.S. congressional panel investigating the BP (BP.L) oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico on Thursday urged the company to allow scientists to conduct a more precise measurement of oil flow from the blown-out undersea well.

In a letter to BP America CEO Lamar McKay, Representative Edward Markey said he has been advised that before a larger "containment cap" is placed on the damaged well to capture more oil gushing out, there would be an "opportunity to reach ... an accurate assessment" of the oil flow.

Shortly after the April 20 explosion on the BP-leased oil rig, the company estimated there could be 1,000 barrels of oil leaking from the well. That figure later grew to 5,000 barrels (210,000 gallons/795,000 liters).

(From me, I think we had a bump to 10-12,000 barrels a day for the last few weeks)

Government scientists on Thursday said the amount of oil that was flowing from the well before the riser pipe was cut would be as low as 20,000 bpd to as high as 40,000 bpd (1.68 million gallons/6.36 million liters). That's about double their earlier estimate of 12,000 bpd to 19,000 bpd.

The flow may have increased by 5 percent when the oil well pipe was cut to allow the placement of the containment cap, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar told lawmakers this week.

With the smaller cap on the well, BP has been increasing the amount of oil it has captured daily, totaling 15,800 barrels on Wednesday.

The government is expected to release in a few days an estimate of the oil flowing with the small containment cap.



Edit

Crap, I didn't realize this wasn't the AJ interview from today. This is rense or something dated May 12.

[Serpo]

What bothers me is AJ.

I have not listened to him much recently, but his lack of any immediacy of this catastrophe is amazing. I was listening to this when it aired. AJ amitted many times that he has no read much into the spew. He seemed to have an idea of the share selling that preceeded the blow out.

How much is exageration? I am listening to steve quail now. He just stated a while ago that the spew is 1,000,000 barrels a day. From his sources of course. :oo-->

He put the flow @ 100,000 barrels a day if I remember. Fits with Simmons, but Simmons is CFR.

I tend to agree that willams said from everything that I have been able to read.

All I know, is that the gov just upped their flow rate to a 20,000 to 30,000 barrels a day.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1025362520100610


WASHINGTON, June 10 (Reuters) - The chairman of a U.S. congressional panel investigating the BP (BP.L) oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico on Thursday urged the company to allow scientists to conduct a more precise measurement of oil flow from the blown-out undersea well.

In a letter to BP America CEO Lamar McKay, Representative Edward Markey said he has been advised that before a larger "containment cap" is placed on the damaged well to capture more oil gushing out, there would be an "opportunity to reach ... an accurate assessment" of the oil flow.

Shortly after the April 20 explosion on the BP-leased oil rig, the company estimated there could be 1,000 barrels of oil leaking from the well. That figure later grew to 5,000 barrels (210,000 gallons/795,000 liters).

(From me, I think we had a bump to 10-12,000 barrels a day for the last few weeks)

Government scientists on Thursday said the amount of oil that was flowing from the well before the riser pipe was cut would be as low as 20,000 bpd to as high as 40,000 bpd (1.68 million gallons/6.36 million liters). That's about double their earlier estimate of 12,000 bpd to 19,000 bpd.

The flow may have increased by 5 percent when the oil well pipe was cut to allow the placement of the containment cap, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar told lawmakers this week.

With the smaller cap on the well, BP has been increasing the amount of oil it has captured daily, totaling 15,800 barrels on Wednesday.

The government is expected to release in a few days an estimate of the oil flowing with the small containment cap.





http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/attorney-deepwater-horizon-managers-knew-about-oil-rig-problem-before-explosi/

[osoab]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/attorney-deepwater-horizon-managers-knew-about-oil-rig-problem-before-explosi/


Thanks

Thats the first I've seen that. I have yet to hear of anyone discussing that report of gov scientists. Very recent news article too. 100,000 a day is a far cry from the 5000 a day that was spouted for weeks.

I have been in the 100,000 to 70,000 camp from about the end of the 1st week. I can't find any concrete validation of the rumors of the fissures that are leaking from miles away. This would probably add to the total amount of spew.

I have been reading this thread on a oil drilling forum. Trying understand the mechanics of deep see drilling.

http://drillingclub.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wellcontrol&action=display&thread=4840&page=36

A lot of info there.


I 'll try to post the Aj interviews with lindsey.

[SLV^GLD]

Does it really matter what the actual flow rate is?
What matters is that it is not stopping.

[osoab]

Does it really matter what the actual flow rate is?
What matters is that it is not stopping.


I agree in getting the sob stopped. But it is pretty useful to show the sheep that gov/BP have been bumping their numbers up all along.

It also would be nice to know the true number of gallons of that corexit crap that has been dumped and if the underwater oil fissures/plumes exist and to what scale.

I don't believe any of us can come up with a logical solution unless all data is available.



Heck, if its just one BOP why aren't we encasing this thing in crete (not the temple thing, though)? It would tale one heck of batch, but running around with are thumbs in places isn't helping.

[osoab]

Lindsey Williams on AJ yesterday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYhugmaAL3A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncpwT0ScYww&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adiZE3cwYDM&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGdUziSaRCM&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfYs-fec7Pw&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DggtuJjOTI&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUJgKE6dyqs&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Woc2oPt0Byk&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPiZ9jy6yJQ&feature=channel

[beefsteak]

Google to the rescue...LOL

http://maps.google.com/maps/mpl?moduleurl=http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/disaster/gulf_oil_spill/gulf_oil_mapplet.xml&mapclient=google&hl=en&cad=konbit:oil,pos:0

Google Oil Spill Mapplet with several options for rejiggering and viewability variety.

After image appears,
1) hold down left mouse key and drag window contents around
2) Look for green mass

If one has a scroll wheel on their mouse,
place cursor into window contents and scroll/zoom in or out.

beefsteak

[SLV^GLD]

2) Look for green mass
Lost you there. Zoomed into the gulf and nothing.

Nevermind. Had to unblock gmodules in NoScript.

A delete post option would be useful for crap like this...

[Serpo]

Super mega disaster

normal oil pressures ie 1500psi

20000 to 70000 psi ...... highest oil pressure ever

first time in history all 3 safety features fail

nuclear option .....may back fire, if strata cracks from blast it will never be stopped

20 mile away plumes .

Coming out with the oil toxic,

volatile organic compounds in the air of the gulf .....h2s hydrogen sulphide 1200 parts per billion

benzene .....very toxic........3000parts per billion

methylene chloride. ......3000 parts per billion

hurricane will send this poison in a lot of directions





A BP official stated, “We discovered things that were broken in the sub-surface.”

The BP official added the well was leaking “out to the side, into the formation.”

Though the Post was unable to pinpoint the problem, “The official said he could not describe what was damaged in the well.”http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/bp-official-the-well-is-leaking-out-to-the-side-into-the-formation

[Serpo]

Interesting site showing relative depths


http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/infographic-tallest-mountain-to-deepest-ocean-trench-0249/

[MNeagle]

Interesting site showing relative depths


http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/infographic-tallest-mountain-to-deepest-ocean-trench-0249/


Incredible graphic, really puts it into perspective. Thanks.

[Serpo]

New BP Corporate Logos




http://www.rense.com/general91/newbp.htm

[ximmy]

OMG... scary stuff... it's like they opened a gate to hell

[beefsteak]

2) Look for green mass
Lost you there. Zoomed into the gulf and nothing.

Nevermind. Had to unblock gmodules in NoScript.

A delete post option would be useful for crap like this...


You may delete your post if you like...mine stands.
I just checked again, and the big green patch showed up, big as life and twice as ugly.

You have to give the US surface map a whole 3/10 of 1 second to shift to the part where just the blue ocean is showing.

Then grab the image drag it down, and left and right until the green blob shows up.

Won't you consider trying it again before you characterize any sincere poster's URL, crap.

It came from a very fine gentleman named Bob-in-TN. You can call him crap to his face, if you like.

I don't accept your crap and raise you 4 spillon gallons of high pressure crude.

LOL
beefsteak

[Serpo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdf55vk7Zas

part 9 of Lw

[Large Sarge]

not an alex jones fan at all, but this is very good info

[SLV^GLD]

2) Look for green mass
Lost you there. Zoomed into the gulf and nothing.

Nevermind. Had to unblock gmodules in NoScript.

A delete post option would be useful for crap like this...


You may delete your post if you like...mine stands.
I just checked again, and the big green patch showed up, big as life and twice as ugly.

You have to give the US surface map a whole 3/10 of 1 second to shift to the part where just the blue ocean is showing.

Then grab the image drag it down, and left and right until the green blob shows up.

Won't you consider trying it again before you characterize any sincere poster's URL, crap.

It came from a very fine gentleman named Bob-in-TN. You can call him crap to his face, if you like.

I don't accept your crap and raise you 4 spillon gallons of high pressure crude.

LOL
beefsteak
Beefsteak, I was talking about deleting my post. I had to unblock a script for the site to load. I could not delete my crap post. I am forced to only edit it so I said why. Your link works, calm down. :P

[Large Sarge]

the caller from new orleans

"BP is in control of everything, police, etc"

"BP Thugs are creating a complete blackout of everything down here"

[beefsteak]

SLV^GLD,

explanation accepted. Knickers no longer twisted here. ;D

beefsteak

[JohnQPublic]

What LW is saying is that the oil is abiotic . This means that it is not fossil fuel, but something produced in the earth. This means no peak oil, probably no evolution.

very few people take abiotic oil theories seriously, but if this is true, then everything changes.

I see at least three possibities:

1. It is a complete sham (I am always wary of LW)
2. There is some truth in it, and this is the reason that there is so much turbulence politically and financially occuring.
3. Peak oil is real, and this is a diversionary story to make people think oil is unlimited.

What is interesting is that the Russians have been drilling these deep (40,000 feet + wells) for decades. As Lindsey pointed out they do it on land not in the sea.

[AndreaGail]

there's a fairly decent blog that is an advocate of the abiotic oil theory among other taboo science subjects (big bang, etc)
http://oilismastery.blogspot.com/
though most of the good stuff was posted a while back so youll have to do some digging

[Quantum]

What LW is saying is that the oil is abiotic . This means that it is not fossil fuel, but something produced in the earth. This means no peak oil, probably no evolution.

very few people take abiotic oil theories seriously, but if this is true, then everything changes.


They need to date the oil to find out how old the oil is. The rock formation might be 30 to 200 million years old here. I do not know and have not looked at under sea maps.

The oil is either old oil, say almost as old as the formation, or they have drilled into a massive active fault zone that is reducing carbon dioxide to methane. If it is high in hydrogen sulfide, it is reducing calcareous sediments to oil and more natural gas in the presence of salt solutions. Now they are providing more saltwater, so via the Wurtz Synthesis more oil is going to be created than natural gas. The methane is going to be converted to ethane, propane, butane, pentane and other long chain organic compounds. You see if oil is being made now, at a very rapid rate in this area, the pressure is never, ever going to drop off along the casing and the oil is going to flow into the gulf forever.The only hope to reduce the pressure will be by sinking more new wells into this area and try and drain off the oil and gas as quickly as it is being made.

You see oil is basically inorganic. It is not made from dead squashed plankton. It is not a fossil fuel. It is an inorganic chemical compound reduced from calcareous sediments and carbon dioxide and methane gas. My peer reviewed published papers using chemical and thermodynamic equations show how this occurs. The link to the papers is available below. Of course although I was published by The American Institute of Professional Geologists in 2009 and the Association of Environmentaland Engineering Geologists in 2008, it does not mean that my theories are accepted by the majority of geologists. It will probably take 50 years, as with the theory of Continental Drift to get accepted by geologists in general. Maybe this disaster will shave off 20 years. Things evolve slowly in geology!

We can only hope it is old oil. We can only date oil back 100 000 years by carbon dating, but that is fine. We need to know if this oil is 10 to 100 years old and if its age is changing as it escapes. Is the escaping oil getting older or younger? So we need to start dating the oil on a weekly basis to see what is happening.

From "B.P, Halliburton and Transocean have unleashed Armageddon and now there is no stopping it" by professional geologist Chris Landau

http://www.opednews.com/articles/B-P-Halliburton-and-Trans-by-Chris-Landau-100611-452.html

[Twisted Titan]

Amazing info Quant!!!!


T

[iOWNme]

I didnt watch all of it, but LW is telling us that Peak Oil is real and that Abiotic Oil theory is real.....

IT CANT BE BOTH!

LW was ousted as a Freemason by Bill Cooper back in 1996. LW was preaching Peak Oil back then at all the Conspiracy Cons. Seemed to be making a good living at it back then too.

Nice Rising Sun/All Seeing Eye logo on his book:
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/environment/energy/index_files/lindsey-williams-cover.jpg

And now the Russians were right, and the Earth makes oil naturally. What happened to Peak Oil LW?

[Large Sarge]

I didnt watch all of it, but LW is telling us that Peak Oil is real and that Abiotic Oil theory is real.....

IT CANT BE BOTH!

LW was ousted as a Freemason by Bill Cooper back in 1996. LW was preaching Peak Oil back then at all the Conspiracy Cons. Seemed to be making a good living at it back then too.

And now the Russians were right, and the Earth makes oil naturally. What happened to Peak Oil LW?


Lindsey had a book in the 70's "the energy non-crisis"

saying peak oil was a fraud

I am not sure about him being a mason or not.

maybe you are confusing lindsey with someone else (maybe mike ruppert?)

[iOWNme]

I didnt watch all of it, but LW is telling us that Peak Oil is real and that Abiotic Oil theory is real.....

IT CANT BE BOTH!

LW was ousted as a Freemason by Bill Cooper back in 1996. LW was preaching Peak Oil back then at all the Conspiracy Cons. Seemed to be making a good living at it back then too.

And now the Russians were right, and the Earth makes oil naturally. What happened to Peak Oil LW?


Lindsey had a book in the 70's "the energy non-crisis"

saying peak oil was a fraud

I am not sure about him being a mason or not.

maybe you are confusing lindsey with someone else (maybe mike ruppert?)


No mistake here....

I could have sworn he was promoting Peak Oil even just a few years ago on the AJ show?

EDIT: I was mistaken! Not about LW and Masonry but about his Peak Oil theory.....

[Large Sarge]

here is the book, free online

http://www.reformation.org/energy-non-crisis.html

the premise of the book, is that peak oil is a fraud, he talks about the oodles of oil in alaska


are you sure you are not confusing him with someone else?

Ruppert? Even Matt Simmons is a little "peak oil" fan (twilight in the desert)

[Horn]

Google to the rescue...LOL

http://maps.google.com/maps/mpl?moduleurl=http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/disaster/gulf_oil_spill/gulf_oil_mapplet.xml&mapclient=google&hl=en&cad=konbit:oil,pos:0

Google Oil Spill Mapplet with several options for rejiggering and viewability variety.

beefsteak


Thanks for that.