Hitler: Not a Rothschild

[Quantum]

And the major, unavoidable difference between St. Adolphus and the Anti-Christ?

St. Adolphus never denied Jesus Christ, and often stated that He was his Lord, Savior, and Hero.


Never heard of him so I googled it.

What does a Spanish martyr have to with this?

or did you mean Adolf of Osnabrück?


but I don't see that he would be relevant either



St. Adolphus of Braunau = Adolf Hitler, who was born in Braunau am Inn.

[Quantum]

Yes. God Blessed the U.S. It became a Great and Prosperous nation. ( did it not?)


This is half-wit theology, Ken.

The Roman Empire became a great and prosperous nation. So therefore God must have blessed it, even while it was slaughtering Christians?

WTF?!

[hoarder]

Someone just pointed out to me that you were never banned by Skyvike at the old GIM. Why is that, hoarder?
Civility.

[philo beddoe]

Someone just pointed out to me that you were never banned by Skyvike at the old GIM. Why is that, hoarder?
Civility.
Sooooooooooo......when Sarge and PATCOLO were banned, they were uncivil?

[wildcard]

Anyone that had a maroon ID over there is suspect if you ask me. Just sayin'

[MAGNES]

Your second theory is that they intentionally didn't circumcise this "jewish agent" infant at birth because they planned for him to grow up and write Mein Kampf and become Führer?


I talked about "emigres" with "legends" above, you can read a lot about them in
books on USSR and communism, planting people in society to
act as agents, whole families and raising children as leaders,
( Obama looks like one of these clowns, we showed this, ie Geithner family )
read about them in detail, in white washed intelligence
type books they do not tell you they are Jews, ideological communists, you have to learn that yourself later on, that it is all Jews, and that this history of USSR is nothing new, it is Jewish systems used for centuries.
Who were all the main soviet spies ? Many hidden in society.

Also Book, how do Marrano's operate, we have discussed this many
times, many of us, their whole lives in the community they are Christians
even joining churches and becoming high officials, the Inquisition in Spain
was mostly about Marranos's and part of a greater war. If it was as simple
as who was snipped ?

Awoke has his sources and said a lot.

Before that we had Anty Ep who gave of key pieces of history.

Some of us actually did research on this later. Like me, did that with EM too
on Rome.

Book, they are that devious and it get's even more unbelievable.

Nothing surprises me, they do use children, brainwash them and
turn them on their own to murder, I know this history well,
Janisaries, who ran the Ottoman Empire, who were the tax collectors ?
Who took it over in the end ? Who created Turkey ?

The people that did all this have systems that go back to ancient times.

"Rabbi's are the teachers and run the whole show, they tell the bankers
what to do." Anty Ep

Even hoarder was surprised at some Awoke posts on dodo bird operations,
or claiming such, I don't know truth here but wouldn't be surprised.
Going after children is their history, no rules, they do things
that most will never believe.

There is other circumstantial evidence about Hitler I didn't even go into.
It is very plausable. See DMAC post above, all true, do your own research,
we can only go by what others say, if referenced give credibility,
there are documents declassified about the Bush crime family and
their attemtpted prosecution, they were let off cause that was policy.
Just one example. They did create Hitler and brought his command
networks into USA.

[MAGNES]

Someone just pointed out to me that


Hoarder and I largely agree in this thread
along with others, old friends in here
disagreeing. I spoke about other stuff though,
don't know what Hitlers real name was cause
don't have access to documents, etc,
Quantum, like I pointed out above your
revelations about Bormann alone are
explosive and you are not far in what
I believe because it is far greater than
just Bormann. At the very least it was
all a setup , WWII , Hitler used, but there
is circumstantial case you can make it is
worse than that, I stayed away from that.



Civility.


Yes you were and didn't get into the heated like others.
Comments like this don't go down well cause it is not true of others.
Things do get heated, I am only commenting cause others are.

Everyone, skyvike deliberately tried to divide us.

"see you can post on jews" skyvike

They don't want me on gim, used my older masonicfrns email
registered as FEDERALRESERVE, after 3 days they wiped my
account out totally, I had some privileges before, and sent me
email. They banned me 3 times on gim for talking about masons
and marranos, spanish inquisition, while others got away with
swearing. Don't talk about masons on gim was a rule, everyone
aware of masons got it, and friends, in the end same thing, new
group of people.

Everyone should edit their comments.

[StackerKen]

Yes. God Blessed the U.S. It became a Great and Prosperous nation. ( did it not?)


This is half-wit theology, Ken.

The Roman Empire became a great and prosperous nation. So therefore God must have blessed it, even while it was slaughtering Christians?

WTF?!


Rome fell.

[philo beddoe]

Yes. God Blessed the U.S. It became a Great and Prosperous nation. ( did it not?)


This is half-wit theology, Ken.

The Roman Empire became a great and prosperous nation. So therefore God must have blessed it, even while it was slaughtering Christians?

WTF?!


Rome fell.
What kind of civilization did the chosen create?

[StackerKen]

If God wanted Hitler to rule...Hitler would not have been defeated.

It is fairly obvious that God has Blessed and used the U.S. in the past.

Im not so sure he will continue to do so.


Then the converse must also be true: God blesses Barack Obama, and wants him to "rule."

You really believe such crap, Ken?


Crap?

It is hard for me to believe that God wants Obama to be the president. Yes.
But I do believe it.

I think God might be Done with the U.S.( no longer blessing us as a nation)

I believe that God Is completely Sovereign (don't you?)

It's complicated...and I don't claim to completely comprehend it.

Romans 13

1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

Daniel 2:21 “And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings:…”


I believe that God lets things happen....and men have free will...and evil things happen...

But I also believe He is in control and his will is Ultimately done on earth.

God can and does use evil for good. (like for instance the evil Jews that killed Christ)

[Neuro]

Ken, So satanic tptb are ordained by god?

[hoarder]

Sooooooooooo......when Sarge and PATCOLO were banned, they were uncivil?
Some got banned that didn't deserve it. Large Sarge and Patcolo did engage in small amounts of ad hominen here and there, as did I. Since I haven't followed 9-11 topics as closely as they have I missed many of the excrement slingings. I think one thing that saved me is that I had been there since 2003 and many who disagreed with me liked me because I was fairly civil and logical. Also, in the early years I made hundreds of posts about silver.
I think when a moderator uses the ban hammer he first thinks about consequences. Maybe they figured it would piss off many long time Gimmers if they canned me.

There is much to be said for civility, not only just for it's own sake but for strategic reasons. We can't win people over to our side or even get them to objectively evaluate our views if we act in a belligerant manner. Jews know this and encourage us to get emotional. When they do, take a breath of air and tell them something real nice and sweet. ;)

When shattering people's long held false beliefs we have to accept that they will get childish and throw ashtrays at us. Duck and smile. It does no good to fight back.
Just keep exposing Khazar corruption a little at a time.....like Chinese torture.

[philo beddoe]

If God wanted Hitler to rule...Hitler would not have been defeated.

It is fairly obvious that God has Blessed and used the U.S. in the past.

Im not so sure he will continue to do so.


Then the converse must also be true: God blesses Barack Obama, and wants him to "rule."

You really believe such crap, Ken?


Crap?

It is hard for me to believe that God wants Obama to be the president. Yes.
But I do believe it.

I think God might be Done with the U.S.( no longer blessing us as a nation)

I believe that God Is completely Sovereign (don't you?)

It's complicated...and I don't claim to completely comprehend it.

Romans 13

1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

Daniel 2:21 “And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings:…”


I believe that God lets things happen....and men have free will...and evil things happen...

But I also believe He is in control and his will is Ultimately done on earth.

God can and does use evil for good. (like for instance the evil Jews that killed Christ)



Know how is it that I Kneeeew that you would whip out Romans 13 sooner or later? Paul isn't Christ, making your beliefs Paulist.

[StackerKen]

Ken, So satanic tptb are ordained by god?


Ordained...No

But God created Satan..Knowing that Satan would fall.

I believe that God would not have created Satan without a plan

In the End, Everything works out according to Gods Plan.

Like i said...its complicated

(all of the above is just off the top of my head with out much thought really. Just what I believe)

[philo beddoe]

Ken, So satanic tptb are ordained by god?


Ordained...No

But God created Satan..Knowing that Satan would fall.

I believe that God would not have created Satan without a plan

In the End, Everything works out according to Gods Plan.

Like i said...its complicated

(all of the above is just off the top of my head with out much thought really. Just what I believe)
How was gods plan with Jobs children?

[StackerKen]

Know how is it that I Kneeeew that you would whip out Romans 13 sooner or later? Paul isn't Christ, making your beliefs Paulist.

:oo-->

Philo
Paul didn't write Daniel 2:21 “And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings:…”

and Jesus said

And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's.


No Im am Not a "Paulist"

But I do believe that Pauls writings like the rest of the bible are "God Breathed"

[StackerKen]

Ken, So satanic tptb are ordained by god?


Ordained...No

But God created Satan..Knowing that Satan would fall.

I believe that God would not have created Satan without a plan

In the End, Everything works out according to Gods Plan.

Like i said...its complicated

(all of the above is just off the top of my head with out much thought really. Just what I believe)
How was gods plan with Jobs children?


Jobs children died and went to be with the lord....I think that worked out pretty well for them.

Terrible stuff happen to Job....But It all worked out pretty well for Job in the end.

The Romans Killed lots of Christians....That worked out pretty well for those Christians...I would say.

God uses All things for Good, for those who are his.

[Neuro]

Good point hoarder, being civil to those who don't really deserve it, gets you much further than being a loudmouth, those who support what you are saying may continue to support you despite being rude and obnoxious. But those who sit on the fence may be tipped over on the other side...

As for Hitler being Jewish... I guess I am a fencesitter on that issue... At this point now being on the 6th chapter in Mein Kampf on Brents recommendation... No doubt Hitler was a great believer in authoritarianism, which I have a great problem with... But if he indeed was a Jewish wunderkind of some sort, he was put in great jeopardy by being at the front, thrown in jail, hard work on the streets of Vienna... Possibly he was coerced secretely by Jews, as he became a rising star... Or maybe he was broken down by some of the people around him when he was the Führer... That Theodor Morell Doc seems very detrimental to his health. He even confessed after the war that he tried to poison Hitler, though I don't put to much faith in these Nazi post war confessions, most of them were probably done to save their own skin...

[hoarder]

. But those who sit on the fence may be tipped over on the other side... This is a very important point. Our rulers have made it to where they are using influence. Let's not squander what little influence we have in the release of our emotions. As it says in the Protocols, the initiative of individuals is what they fear the most.


As for Hitler being Jewish... I guess I am a fencesitter on that issue... At this point now being on the 6th chapter in Mein Kampf on Brents recommendation... No doubt Hitler was a great believer in authoritarianism, which I have a great problem with... But if he indeed was a Jewish wunderkind of some sort, he was put in great jeopardy by being at the front, thrown in jail, hard work on the streets of Vienna... Possibly he was coerced secretely by Jews, as he became a rising star... Or maybe he was broken down by some of the people around him when he was the Führer... That Theodor Morell Doc seems very detrimental to his health. He even confessed after the war that he tried to poison Hitler, though I don't put to much faith in these Nazi post war confessions, most of them were probably done to save their own skin...
Look at it this way. If Hitler was a Khazar plant to play the German dictator role, would they have used any other personality type than authoritarian? How convenient.
The beauty of this strategy is that in the future, no freedom loving people would identify with him.

And then there is the issue of his features....not Aryan to say the least.

[philo beddoe]

. But those who sit on the fence may be tipped over on the other side... This is a very important point. Our rulers have made it to where they are using influence. Let's not squander what little influence we have in the release of our emotions. As it says in the Protocols, the initiative of individuals is what they fear the most.


As for Hitler being Jewish... I guess I am a fencesitter on that issue... At this point now being on the 6th chapter in Mein Kampf on Brents recommendation... No doubt Hitler was a great believer in authoritarianism, which I have a great problem with... But if he indeed was a Jewish wunderkind of some sort, he was put in great jeopardy by being at the front, thrown in jail, hard work on the streets of Vienna... Possibly he was coerced secretely by Jews, as he became a rising star... Or maybe he was broken down by some of the people around him when he was the Führer... That Theodor Morell Doc seems very detrimental to his health. He even confessed after the war that he tried to poison Hitler, though I don't put to much faith in these Nazi post war confessions, most of them were probably done to save their own skin...
Look at it this way. If Hitler was a Khazar plant to play the German dictator role, would they have used any other personality type than authoritarian? How convenient.
The beauty of this strategy is that in the future, no freedom loving people would identify with him.

And then there is the issue of his features....not Aryan to say the least.
Hitlers features were not particularly Nordic. That does not exclude him from being German, His appearance is more that of Alpine, but you knew that already. He was not co-opted by the jews, and these speculations are ridiculous. Freedom loving people? Anybody with half a brain should realize we don't have any freedoms here in the good ol' USSA. Freedom for what? Live the life in 'Frisco? Just because we are free range chickens here, doesn't mean we are free.

[philo beddoe]

Good point hoarder, being civil to those who don't really deserve it, gets you much further than being a loudmouth, those who support what you are saying may continue to support you despite being rude and obnoxious. But those who sit on the fence may be tipped over on the other side...

And how will the Anti-fa groups treat you if you show up at a rally and are not a fervent believer in theri cause?

[StackerKen]

Yeah...I really don't know nuthin bout Hitler...(you knew that)

So will try to stay out of this now.

Thanks for putting up with me though guys! :)

[hoarder]

And how will the Anti-fa groups treat you if you show up at a rally and are not a fervent believer in theri cause?
We can forget about playing on a level field. We're at the bottom of the hill looking up. The odds are stacked against us. No one said it would be easy.

As far as influencing others is concerned, being angry about it serves no end. Play the victim a little if it works, but if you go flying into a rage the other side wins.

We are challenging long held beliefs and values, they are not. For this reason politeness is paramount. It's bad enough to be regarded as a heretic, an angry heretic is treated even worse.

[Gypsybiker45]

"Austria" = Latinized name meaning "Eastern Bavaria." "Aust" = "East."

What language do they speak in "Austria"? Why is that?


No, Its not, Austria is latinized of "Ostereich" meaning Eastern Empire. Nothing to do with Bavaria.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_of_Austria

"In 976, during a general restructuring of Bavaria, the Emperor Otto II erected a new march, called, like its Pannonian predecessor, the marcha orientalis. It was not long before the Bavarian eastern march acquired its name of Austria."

FAIL




also your "Ayr" idea is wacked too, nothing about Aryans.your German skills are lacking


"Aryan" has nothing to do with Deutsch. The terms in German are "Arier" or "Arisch." Who's skills are lacking?

The ancient "Indo-European" (Aryan) root of "arya" or "aryo" - meaning noble or "of honor" - evolved into "Iran," "Eire," and the German word "Ehre."


Go back a bit further, Charlamagne's grandsons, sons of Louis the pious ,according to Frankish inheritance laws,divided his empire into three areas, Ostereich comes from the easternmost area. The Eire entymology comes from the patron Goddess of the Island,Eriu,nothing Germanic about that.You state the Germans say it Arier or Aricsh,so what? what are they supposed to call it? Thats simply their pronunciation of that word.Why do we call Deutschland Germany? Its from Roman times.You constantly use verbal similarities to make your points but they have no base.

[philo beddoe]

And how will the Anti-fa groups treat you if you show up at a rally and are not a fervent believer in their cause?
We can forget about playing on a level field. We're at the bottom of the hill looking up. The odds are stacked against us. No one said it would be easy.

As far as influencing others is concerned, being angry about it serves no end. Play the victim a little if it works, but if you go flying into a rage the other side wins.

We are challenging long held beliefs and values, they are not. For this reason politeness is paramount. It's bad enough to be regarded as a heretic, an angry heretic is treated even worse.
I don't really fly into a rage. I am skilled in debating multiple opponents though.

[Gypsybiker45]

May I recommend Issac Asimov's "The Dark Ages" for those that want to study a accurate description of the population migrations of Post Roman Europe and the origins of those nations.

[Grand Master Melon]

Good point hoarder, being civil to those who don't really deserve it, gets you much further than being a loudmouth, those who support what you are saying may continue to support you despite being rude and obnoxious. But those who sit on the fence may be tipped over on the other side...

And how will the Anti-fa groups treat you if you show up at a rally and are not a fervent believer in theri cause?
Antifa will provide one with a boot to the face. Most deserve it though.

[philo beddoe]

Good point hoarder, being civil to those who don't really deserve it, gets you much further than being a loudmouth, those who support what you are saying may continue to support you despite being rude and obnoxious. But those who sit on the fence may be tipped over on the other side...

And how will the Anti-fa groups treat you if you show up at a rally and are not a fervent believer in theri cause?
Antifa will provide one with a boot to the face. Most deserve it though.
Like your queer friends here wearing the dresses?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8tF_WcokEw

[philo beddoe]

Good point hoarder, being civil to those who don't really deserve it, gets you much further than being a loudmouth, those who support what you are saying may continue to support you despite being rude and obnoxious. But those who sit on the fence may be tipped over on the other side...

And how will the Anti-fa groups treat you if you show up at a rally and are not a fervent believer in theri cause?
Antifa will provide one with a boot to the face. Most deserve it though.
Like this stoopid bitch here melon? She your friend?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUj_PGOFZNk&NR=1

Were you with these queers in the dresses?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLjs08ykI8w&feature=related

[Grand Master Melon]

Good point hoarder, being civil to those who don't really deserve it, gets you much further than being a loudmouth, those who support what you are saying may continue to support you despite being rude and obnoxious. But those who sit on the fence may be tipped over on the other side...

And how will the Anti-fa groups treat you if you show up at a rally and are not a fervent believer in theri cause?
Antifa will provide one with a boot to the face. Most deserve it though.
Like this stoopid bitch here melon? She your friend?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUj_PGOFZNk&NR=1

Were you with these queers in the dresses?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLjs08ykI8w&feature=related


My work internets blocks the vids, I can't see them. Knowing you I'm sure it's real comical and witty stuff though. :oo-->

[StackerKen]

Get off the internets and get back to work! :D

[Nordmann]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2CG1watD9s

Chief Adviser to British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, the Jewish professor Frederick Lindemann, asked: "Do you know what the future historians will regard as the most important event of this age?"

Churchill: "Well, what is it?"

Lindemann: "It will be the abdication of the White man."

"The Jews are one of the principal forces attempting to lead the U.S. into the war. The Jews' greatest danger to this country lies in their large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our Government. I am saying that the leaders of the Jewish race wish to involve us in the war for reasons that are not American."
- Charles Lindbergh, September 11, 1941

"We, the heirs of European culture, are on the verge of a disastrous war, a war within our own family of nations, a war which will reduce the strength and destroy the treasures of the White race, a war which may even lead to the end of our civilization."
- Charles Lindbergh (November, 1939)

"The struggle for world domination will be fought entirely between us, between Germans and Jews. All else is facade and illusion. Behind England stands Israel, and behind France, and behind the United States. Even when we have driven the Jew out of Germany, he remains our world enemy."
- Adolf Hitler

[Neuro]

Good point hoarder, being civil to those who don't really deserve it, gets you much further than being a loudmouth, those who support what you are saying may continue to support you despite being rude and obnoxious. But those who sit on the fence may be tipped over on the other side...

And how will the Anti-fa groups treat you if you show up at a rally and are not a fervent believer in theri cause?
I would never support the Anti-fa by showing up at any of their rallies. You need to pick your battles better. Basically even if you show up to oppose these communist hooligans, you only end up strengthening them, because you give importance to them and their message by being there...

[Awoke]

I got through 2 pages of this thread before I decided to post, so I have not read all of it yet. I will. There are some heavy posts in this thread.

Quantum, I would like to see some substance to back up your statement that Hitler was "a good Christian".
He lumped the Christians in with the jews and killed both, so serve up some details please.



In the mean time,
My contribution is a couple quotes from (surprise!) The Plot against the Church, by Maurice Pinay:



The first cabinet of Germany in the year 1918 was composed of Jews.

1. Preuss, Minister of the Interior.
2. Freund, Minister of the Interior.
3. Landsberg, Finance Minister.
4. Karl Kautski, Finance Minister.
5. Schiffer, Finance Minister.
6. Eduard Bernstein, secretary of the State Treasury.
7. Fritz Max Cohen, director of the official information service. (This Jew was earlier correspondent of the Jewish “Frankfurter Zeitung”).

The second “German Socialist government” of 1918 was formed of the following Jews:

1. Hirsch, Minister of the Interior.
2. Rosenfeld, Justice Minister.
3. Futran, Minister of education.
4. Arndt, Minister of education.
5. Simon, State secretary of finances.
6. Kastenberg, director of the department of science and art.
7. Strathgen, director of colonial department.
9. Wurm, secretary of food.
10. Merz, Weil, Katzenstein, Stern, Lowenberg, Frankel, Schlesinger, Israelowitz, Selingsohn, Laubenheim, etc., took up high posts in the ministries.

Among the remaining Jews who controlled the sectors vital to life of the German state, which had been defeated through the American intervention in the war, were found in the year 1918, and later:

1. Kohen, President of the German workers and soldiers councils (similar to the Soviet council of soldiers and workers of Moscow in the same year).
2. Ernst, police president of Berlin.
3. Sinzheimer, police president of Frankfurt.
4. Lewy, police president of Hessen.
5. Kurt Eisner, Bavarian state president.
6. Jaffe Bavarian finance minister.
7. Brentano, Industry, trade and transport minister.
8. Talheimer, minister in Württemberg.
9. Heimann, another minister in Württemberg.
10. Fulda, in the government of Hesse.
11. Theodor Wolf, chief editor of the newspaper “Berliner Tageblatt.”
12. Gwiner, director of the “Deutsche Bank”.10





In conclusion let us say something about the origin of the German Jews, whose blond hair and blue eyes stand in contrast to the other types of Jews.

Graetz explains the origin of the Jews in South Germany in the following way: “A large number of German soldiers took part with the legions in the destruction of the temple of Jerusalem. Many of them chose from the great number of captives the most beautiful women and took them with them to the banks of the Rhine and Maine. The children of these unions were half Jews and half Germans and were introduced by their mothers to Judaism, for their father raised no objections in this regard.”162

If one reflects that the apparent conversions of the Jews to Christianity began in the German possessions of the Merovingians already at the time of Chilperic and Dagobert I, one will understand, that the “Jewish Fifth Column” in Germany already existed a very remote time ago, and that therefore the Nazis committed the gravest fault when they believed all secret branches of Jewry could be identified through a genealogical investigation of only three generations.


At this point, the book goes into another chapter, which I will not quote here due to length, but it is Chapter 20, entitled "CHAPTER TWENTY - AN ATTEMPT TO BRING THE HOLY ROMAN GERMANIC EMPIRE UNDER JEWISH RULE".


EDITED to add: If my memory serves me correctly, I'm pretty sure A. Ralph Epperson stated in his book The New World Order, that Hitler was an active member of the Thule Society and a satanist.

[MAGNES]

Getting information from one source will not give you complete answers.

Awoke's contribution is pretty good, Graetz may or may not be right,
I'd like to see his sources, the book is cited, I have not read the whole
thing nor looked at sources if you can find them in library. There are still
cryto Jewish communities all over Europe, secret societies
living among the population, recently Portugal was in the news, Spain,
crypto's that run Turkey even today, US Jewish presidents, so this is very possible below, Masons operate this way too, and this is one of the reasons why it is so Jewish, Masonry, and excuse to get together and plot, I know some
Byzantine history, don't know about the destruction of the temple and
Germans, temple was destroyed a few times, what period are they talking
about ? Roman ? That is way far back, many mercenary tribes and later
Christian leaders like the Normans, older Vikings, even pagan Vikings,
the Crusaders, etc, they came at the call of Byzantium, came late,
many came for booty, pirating, at that point they were paying back
the muslim destroyers but they also attacked Christian cities too.
They took booty back to Europe, including people.

In the Talmud, Jewish law basically, the Jews have a duty to mentor
each other at the expense of the locals, even if the Jewish person
is not qualified it is your duty to promote them.

I suspect that even in Czarist Christian Russia the Jews had a huge
role in the security services, like the Ottoman Empire, this is how
they took control so fast and so thoroughly with total destruction the
end result, they did the same to Germany, see my comments in first two pages here and on "emigres", the USA is next, people are still oblivious
even with free information flowing. Back then it was harder to know.

These people Graetz talks of may also be Khazars and original Turkic.
He is trying to explain their presence.

Graetz explains the origin of the Jews in South Germany in the following way: “A large number of German soldiers took part with the legions in the destruction of the temple of Jerusalem. Many of them chose from the great number of captives the most beautiful women and took them with them to the banks of the Rhine and Maine. The children of these unions were half Jews and half Germans and were introduced by their mothers to Judaism, for their father raised no objections in this regard.”162

[JDRock]

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Someone just pointed out to me that you were never banned by Skyvike at the old GIM. Why is that, hoarder?
[/quote]


maybe because he doesnt allow himself to be baited .... :oo-->

[JDRock]

take a chill pill here...i want the truth more than i want to be right but it doesnt help your position to flame out.


You spew Jew-style lies about the greatest man since Jesus Christ, and you want me to be dispassionate? The only guy who's made ANY REAL EFFORT in the last 500 years to break the power of the Jew banks. If you don't like Hitler, fine, let the man rest in peace. Don't spread horsesh*t about how he was a "Jew," and "changed his name," and blah, blah, blah.


calm down and lets be rational about this... :oo-->

How is it he " broke the backs " of the jewish banks when his CAMPAIGN,PARTY, AND ARMY was funded by joos?? as far as proof, ill have to look it up AGAIN..as it was covered pretty extensively on gim 1
AND he was buddies with jew stalin...AND..he ...just...just ...dissappeared.. :oo-->

still why the name change....

[JDRock]

As I stated, Hardly anything is 100% certain. I still maintain 85% probability that Herr Shickelgruber was a Khazar. Neither you nor I were there and we both know we live in a world of lies and controlled opposition. Keep your mind open.


Than a reasonable man would give this at most 50-50 not 85%. Both you and JD need to revisit your certitude.

:D


not certain here...as i said im open to correction on ALL counts...as long as proof is made,as well as proof that my point is wrong.
although i had the mother and father mixed up, if youll peruse godlike productions ,ALOT of info there about the shikelgruber/rothschild connection.

[JDRock]

JP Morgan :oo-->

the duponts :oo-->

rockefeller :oo-->
john foster dulles :oo-->

chase bank :oo-->

catholic church :oo-->

these we KNOW backed shikelgruber....
source; "a jewish perspective on geo w bush"

now yours is to answer WHY?

[JDRock]

one more point and ill leave it to the flames...maybe someone reasonable will post....

why did shickelgruber REFUSE to release piper and his panzers during the battle of the bulge??

WHY did he attack russia in the face of military history?? ( and u think he was a genious :oo-->)


now...WHY WASNT HE ARYAN???

[JDRock]

The idea that Hitler was "controlled opposition" is insane.


He may of been setup or helped along in his folly.

Defending is easier than attacking, look at his tactics
I spoke to above, and fighting on 3 continents.
That is what is insane. You claim a USSR invasion.
They would of been wiped out and world opinion
would be in Hitlers favor. Millions of Germans would
not be surrendering, etc, a USSR invasion would of
been great, we would not be here today, it would
be total uprising then.

You admitted who Bormann is, and I put it to you
it goes a lot deeper, Bormann basically ran the whole
show some say, even keeping key people away from
Hitler, was a bully, you also brought his doctor into this.

Rockefeller and Rothchild built him up with money and factories.
He knew this. Maybe he thought they were partners ? Maybe
he said "I will take the Jews money." He didn't know they built
up the USSR and communism was all their doing ? He knew
enough to destroy their apparatus THE MASONS in Germany.

One can make a circumstantial case that the Rothchilds mentored
him from the beginning, I didn't even go there.

The Dulles Brothers for R and R families murdered people like John Forrestal
and Patton for knowing many of the truths I speak to above, the total penetration
from within, total subversion, a truth you admitted to.

Nixon, Bush, and Kissenger go way back knowing all these truths.
They backed McCarthy, McCarthy went looking for commies he found
Nazi's, John Loftus went looking for Nazis, he found commies.
They both meet in the middle and both are shut down completely.
Gehlen's Org was brought into the USA, they even ended up running
CIA networks, NATO, even RadioFree Europe.


great as usual magnes.

[JDRock]

He probably died of old age in Israel with "his people".


The only thing that claiming "Hitler was a Jew" serves is the Jews.




the people it SERVES is those who BENEFIT!

if it is widely known hitler was and had jewish ties, the WHOLE JEWISH HOUSE OF CARDS COMES DOWN!

if it is held that he was somehow ANTI jewish ( in deed , not word)...then the jewish hand is strengthened-WORLDWIDE.

[JDRock]

Please explain how it would benefit organized Jewry if public schools taught students that Hitler was a Jew.
How the heck would that have any strategic value for them?

It tricks young anti-Semitic goyim into dismissing Hitler by alleging that he himself was a jew. Who really benefits by destroying the memory of Hitler?

:oo-->




now, thanks ONLY to the memory of hitler as written by the joo media, WHITEY CAN NEVER -EVER _EVER _EVER organize a resistance that will not be easily villified by association of the same.

your response?

[philo beddoe]

Please explain how it would benefit organized Jewry if public schools taught students that Hitler was a Jew.
How the heck would that have any strategic value for them?

It tricks young anti-Semitic goyim into dismissing Hitler by alleging that he himself was a jew. Who really benefits by destroying the memory of Hitler?

:oo-->




now, thanks ONLY to the memory of hilet as written by the joo media, WHITEY CAN NEVER -EVER _EVER _EVER organize a resistance that will not be easily villified by association of the same.

your response?
Common sense rosenfelt..... the jew media is still atacking Hitler 70 years later
and nincompoops think he is jooish......and yet no one mentions the more obvious fact that joe jewison was a joo, and murdered millions of orthodox christians

[MAGNES]

I didn't even mention Angleton's name, totally involved with Gehlen's org,
had extraordinary power in CIA, he ran counter intelligence, had the Israel
file, brought Nazi's to the USA who were commies ideologically, father
did this too during WWII, a traitor. Angleton most likely is a marrano crypto.
Some of Gehlen's people were given autonomy in USA, that is the power they had. Angleton is the super mole some say. During the last days in office of Bush I, Bush personally and Angleton purged the CIA of files, but many live in archives, the different agencies were totally penetrated and because of this they do not trust each other.
The NSA was one of the last to go, NSA was WASP run, anti Jew, Wayne Madsen reports the NeoCons were working on it. The USS Liberty was an
NSA ship, not pro Israel, this is why it was attacked. Dirty tricks were used
on Israel and Israel attacked it. Nothing is black and white and simple to understand, we saw this post 9/11, civil war in the white house, with intell agencies, even the military, they purged key people, most purged never made
the media, Israel still had enemies to purge, NSA last to go, files exist in
Maryland vaults underground and are mislabelled and misplaced deliberately.

Some made it out on Bush family.

There is related information everywhere, you have to connect the dots.

Only later on GIM was I introduced to other information from a different
perspective, like EM, Antony Sutton, totally fits the books I read.

It is actually the "dulles brothers" as partners, not one Dulles.

Some of the greatest traitors the USA and West ever had.

Smedly Butler worked for them, they were the main point men for
Rockefeller/Rothchild, and they ran the whole show for them,
in Americas and later WWII.

What was Auschwitz ? IG Farben owned the network of camps. LOL !
New York and UK Jews owned it. Same names that owned and created
the FED. Promoting Hitler and denying this history actually gives these
Jews a pass. They created Israel too through threats of the world
community. Soros and Simon Wiesenthal worked with the Nazi's too.
Same thing with the Zionists in general. So we have a lot of concrete
information.

[philo beddoe]

I didn't even mention Angleton's name, totally involved with Gehlen's org,
had extraordinary power in CIA, he ran counter intelligence, had the Israel
file, brought Nazi's to the USA who were commies ideologically, father
did this too during WWII, a traitor. Angleton most likely is a marrano crypto.
Some of Gehlen's people were given autonomy in USA, that is the power they had. Angleton is the super mole some say. During the last days in office of Bush I, Bush personally and Angleton purged the CIA of files, but many live in archives, the different agencies were totally penetrated and because of this they do not trust each other.
The NSA was one of the last to go, NSA was WASP run, anti Jew, Wayne Madsen reports the NeoCons were working on it. The USS Liberty was an
NSA ship, not pro Israel, this is why it was attacked. Dirty tricks were used
on Israel and Israel attacked it. Nothing is black and white and simple to understand, we saw this post 9/11, civil war in the white house, with intell agencies, even the military, they purged key people, most purged never made
the media, Israel still had enemies to purge, NSA last to go, files exist in
Maryland vaults underground and are mislabelled and misplaced deliberately.

Some made it out on Bush family.

There is related information everywhere, you have to connect the dots.

Only later on GIM was I introduced to other information from a different
perspective, like EM, Antony Sutton, totally fits the books I read.

It is actually the "dulles brothers" as partners, not one Dulles.

Some of the greatest traitors the USA and West ever had.

Smedly Butler worked for them, they were the main point men for
Rockefeller/Rothchild, and they ran the whole show for them,
in Americas and later WWII.

What was Auschwitz ? IG Farben owned the network of camps. LOL !
New York and UK Jews owned it. Same names that owned and created
the FED. Promoting Hitler and denying this history actually gives these
Jews a pass. They created Israel too through threats of the world
community. Soros and Simon Wiesenthal worked with the Nazi's too.
Same thing with the Zionists in general. So we have a lot of concrete
information.
George Soros just isn't that old MAGNES....maybe he was drummer boy somewhere?

[MAGNES]

and yet no one mentions the more obvious fact that joe jewison was a joo, and murdered millions of orthodox christians


Since when did you see anyone here posting give them a pass ?

Quantum spoke about Bormann, do you have any idea what
he admitted to ? I spoke a lot about related issues on this.
It goes way deeper than Bormann or Hitlers doctor.

Hitler destroyed Europe and Europeans and gave half of it to the USSR.

Even if he was legit for arguments sake he is a failed leader that needs
to take responsibility for destruction. That is the end result.

Outing the International Jews, the FED, creators of the USSR and Nazi Germany
is important to out the criminals today.

Many of us here agree and disagree depending on the points.
Old friends too.

[Libertytree]

Really....C'mon..shouldn't this be moved to the Hitler/Joo/ISHREAL sub-forum???

We can all go look at these astute compendiums in one grand place. It would be a travesty to miss even one sentence from all these gems. And since it's all about the jews I think they would feel comfortable about being herded into the the dark corners.

[philo beddoe]

and yet no one mentions the more obvious fact that joe jewison was a joo, and murdered millions of orthodox christians


Since when did you see anyone here posting give them a pass ?

Quantum spoke about Bormann, do you have any idea what
he admitted to ? I spoke a lot about related issues on this.
It goes way deeper than Bormann or Hitlers doctor.

Hitler destroyed Europe and Europeans and gave half of it to the USSR.

Even if he was legit for arguments sake he is a failed leader that needs
to take responsibility for destruction. That is the end result.

Outing the International Jews, the FED, creators of the USSR and Nazi Germany
is important to out the criminals today.

Many of us here agree and disagree depending on the points.
Old friends too.


Eisenkite gave Europe to Jewison, not Hitler...he barely had any more territory than he had before Hitler attacked..........Eisenkite held back supplies to Patton, who could of marched all the way to Belarus.

[MAGNES]

George Soros just isn't that old MAGNES....maybe he was drummer boy somewhere?


Ben are you for real, that is all you have to say to my points.

Do you have any idea how wrong you are on your counterpoint ?

Not only was he a Zionist Nazi working officially for Nazi Germany
he is also an admitted communist lover and enabler keeping in
power by financing the old communist leaders in his organizations
and societies, and he is more proof to what I say about commie jews
posing as Nazi's penetrating the West. He ain't alone just better known.
Simon Wiesenthal has the same history, "nazi hunter". ROFL ! Soros
is also responsible for doing the NED work by overthrowing governments,
he is the point man on the "colored revolutions." No power, ROFL !
You need networks of people to do that. Student anarchists on ground
floor are a cover to break glass in streets, like those countries don't have
a military and intelligence agency to protect them, they take them down
from within, they did that to the USA, I spoke to that, so did Quantum.

[sirgonzo420]

and yet no one mentions the more obvious fact that joe jewison was a joo, and murdered millions of orthodox christians


Since when did you see anyone here posting give them a pass ?

Quantum spoke about Bormann, do you have any idea what
he admitted to ? I spoke a lot about related issues on this.
It goes way deeper than Bormann or Hitlers doctor.

Hitler destroyed Europe and Europeans and gave half of it to the USSR.

Even if he was legit for arguments sake he is a failed leader that needs
to take responsibility for destruction. That is the end result.

Outing the International Jews, the FED, creators of the USSR and Nazi Germany
is important to out the criminals today.

Many of us here agree and disagree depending on the points.
Old friends too.


Eisenk-word gave Europe to Jewison, not Hitler...he barely had any more territory than he had before Hitler attacked..........Eisenk-word held back supplies to Patton, who could of marched all the way to Belarus.


So Eisenhower, Stalin, etc, were all jews, but NOT Hitler?

Come on... CONTROLLED OPPOSITION is their game!

Even if Hitler WERE trying to "fight the jews", he was still being used as a pawn to further an agenda.

Look who's winning...

[philo beddoe]

George Soros just isn't that old MAGNES....maybe he was drummer boy somewhere?


Ben are you for real, that is all you have to say to my points.

Do you have any idea how wrong you are on your counterpoint ?

Not only was he a Zionist Nazi working officially for Nazi Germany
he is also an admitted communist lover and enabler keeping in
power by financing the old communist leaders in his organizations
and societies, and he is more proof to what I say about commie jews
posing as Nazi's penetrating the West. He ain't alone just better known.
Simon Wiesenthal has the same history, "nazi hunter". ROFL ! Soros
is also responsible for doing the NED work by overthrowing governments,
he is the point man on the "colored revolutions." No power, ROFL !
You need networks of people to do that. Student anarchists on ground
floor are a cover to break glass in streets, like those countries don't have
a military and intelligence agency to protect them, they take them down
from within, they did that to the USA, I spoke to that, so did Quantum.
He was born in 1930 MAGNES......Whatever he is doing after WWII I am sure he is but he was not involved in WWII and Ukraine was doing better until that jew Tymoshenko and her butt buddy pulled the 'orange' revolution

[philo beddoe]

and yet no one mentions the more obvious fact that joe jewison was a joo, and murdered millions of orthodox christians


Since when did you see anyone here posting give them a pass ?

Quantum spoke about Bormann, do you have any idea what
he admitted to ? I spoke a lot about related issues on this.
It goes way deeper than Bormann or Hitlers doctor.

Hitler destroyed Europe and Europeans and gave half of it to the USSR.

Even if he was legit for arguments sake he is a failed leader that needs
to take responsibility for destruction. That is the end result.

Outing the International Jews, the FED, creators of the USSR and Nazi Germany
is important to out the criminals today.

Many of us here agree and disagree depending on the points.
Old friends too.


Eisenk-word gave Europe to Jewison, not Hitler...he barely had any more territory than he had before Hitler attacked..........Eisenk-word held back supplies to Patton, who could of marched all the way to Belarus.


So Eisenhower, Stalin, etc, were all jews, but NOT Hitler?

Come on... CONTROLLED OPPOSITION is their game!

Even if Hitler WERE trying to "fight the jews", he was still being used as a pawn to further an agenda.

Look who's winning...
Do you have a credit card Gonzo.....I'm assuming you have or had one.......controlled by the joo!!!!! controlled by the joo! he took a joo loan!!!!!!!!!!!! now, how silly does that sound?

[MAGNES]

He was born in 1930 MAGNES......Whatever he is doing after WWII I am sure he is but he was not involved in WWII and Ukraine was doing better until that jew Tymoshenko and her butt buddy pulled the 'orange' revolution


Ben, you lost on this buddy.

Go find out who Soros is.

Some of you take this personally, why ?

Why you calling JDR names, I don't think anyone here is totally
right and has all the answers, I don't claim that, ever since
I started posting here I got 10 smites like JDR too, what
a joke, JDR and Book disagree, I take issue with some of
hoarders recent posts, I don't take it personally.

If people here are so pro European and pro White, etc,
why don't they try to promote the good history Europeans
have, that alone pisses Jews off. We don't need to
make shit up and make targets of ourselves and easily
allow our enemies to discredit us.

Outing the FED and it's owners and history is key too.
That is what I am doing.

[philo beddoe]

He was born in 1930 MAGNES......Whatever he is doing after WWII I am sure he is but he was not involved in WWII and Ukraine was doing better until that jew Tymoshenko and her butt buddy pulled the 'orange' revolution


Ben, you lost on this buddy.

Go find out who Soros is.

Some of you take this personally, why ?

Why you calling JDR names, I don't think anyone here is totally
right and has all the answers, I don't claim that, ever since
I started posting here I got 10 smites like JDR too, what
a joke.
1) I haven't wasted my time smiting you
2) I have 370 of them, on track for the record
3) JDR is not debating, he is mocking and bringing up points repetitively that were already PROVEN wrong, foremost of all, Hitler was born Hitler, and NEVER Changed his name

[sirgonzo420]

and yet no one mentions the more obvious fact that joe jewison was a joo, and murdered millions of orthodox christians


Since when did you see anyone here posting give them a pass ?

Quantum spoke about Bormann, do you have any idea what
he admitted to ? I spoke a lot about related issues on this.
It goes way deeper than Bormann or Hitlers doctor.

Hitler destroyed Europe and Europeans and gave half of it to the USSR.

Even if he was legit for arguments sake he is a failed leader that needs
to take responsibility for destruction. That is the end result.

Outing the International Jews, the FED, creators of the USSR and Nazi Germany
is important to out the criminals today.

Many of us here agree and disagree depending on the points.
Old friends too.


Eisenk-word gave Europe to Jewison, not Hitler...he barely had any more territory than he had before Hitler attacked..........Eisenk-word held back supplies to Patton, who could of marched all the way to Belarus.


So Eisenhower, Stalin, etc, were all jews, but NOT Hitler?

Come on... CONTROLLED OPPOSITION is their game!

Even if Hitler WERE trying to "fight the jews", he was still being used as a pawn to further an agenda.

Look who's winning...
Do you have a credit card Gonzo.....I'm assuming you have or had one.......controlled by the joo!!!!! controlled by the joo! he took a joo loan!!!!!!!!!!!! now, how silly does that sound?


Actually I've never had a credit card or taken a loan.

But I do have a (non-interest bearing) bank account, which is bad enough.

The point I was making, is that whether Hitler was "in on it" or not, the jews have used him for tremendous (and continual) gain.

[MAGNES]

Hitler was born Hitler, and NEVER Changed his name


I stated long ago don't know about that and am not speaking to that.
JDR brought up key names and points but from a different perspective
to what I brought up in my initial posts. But Dulles brothers are key here
and he knows enough to bring them up so he is totally inline with concrete
information out there that fits with the rest. You deny what he pointed
to ? Do you have any idea who the Dulles brothers are ? I guarantee you
that you know some history that is directly related and you will say Jews.
They ran the whole show, strategy, arming, building, money flow, operating
out of Europe even, havens, they ran the political too, enormous power with
full support of the entire criminal and crypto government, their enemies were
murderd like Forrestal and most likely offed Patton and others, even Kennedy.
Kissenger, Nixon and Bush I were their stooges way back. Those 3 stooges
knew each other going way back to beyond anyone's understanding. They
backed McCarthy for a while till they outed themselves, lol .
Then they destroyed their friend they empowered.

I never said you smited me, just made the same observation as JDR.
I am often in the middle ground too. The history I and others spoke to
here is not welcomed on the Jews Media, for a reason. They don't like
my posts for sure. Notice how we vary on here and yet we are all hated
and called " nazi's " by some, LOL ! even Quantum spoke against Neos, lol, I agree, especially about wearing your heart on your skin literally and making a target of yourself, I see them more of a counter culture than bad guys though,
lots of young people, started out as working class UK my understanding.

[hoarder]

now, thanks ONLY to the memory of hilet as written by the joo media, WHITEY CAN NEVER -EVER _EVER _EVER organize a resistance that will not be easily villified by association of the same.

Everyone needs to re-read this sentence and ponder the psychological ramifications. Jews are masters of psychology and we can bet that psycological mechanisms like this were calculated when the WW2 script was written.

You can argue that Hitler was a great guy and Jews re-wrote his history (the latter of which is true) but who can deny the CUI BONO of this? Too convenient. Hitler sealed our fate.

When Jews need a diversion do they point to Ernst Zundel? Do they point to Kevin MacDonald? No they point to a personality no White person would want to be associated with. Hitler played this role much too well.


This must have been calculated to prevent the aware from increasing their numbers.

[hoarder]

if it is widely known hitler was and had jewish ties, the WHOLE JEWISH HOUSE OF CARDS COMES DOWN!

We can spend three years reading every book written about Hitler and probably understand less than we would by simply understanding a few little tidbits like this.

This is how you connect the dots.

[philo beddoe]

Hitler was born Hitler, and NEVER Changed his name


I stated long ago don't know about that and am not speaking to that.
JDR brought up key names and points but from a different perspective
to what I brought up in my initial posts. But Dulles brothers are key here
and he knows enough to bring them up so he is totally inline with concrete
information out there that fits with the rest. You deny what he pointed
to ? Do you have any idea who the Dulles brothers are ? I guarantee you
that you know some history that is directly related and you will say Jews.
They ran the whole show, strategy, arming, building, money flow, operating
out of Europe even, havens, they ran the political too, enormous power with
full support of the entire criminal and crypto government, their enemies were
murderd like Forrestal and most likely offed Patton and others, even Kennedy.
Kissenger, Nixon and Bush I were their stooges way back. Those 3 stooges
knew each other going way back to beyond anyone's understanding. They
backed McCarthy for a while till they outed themselves, lol .
Then they destroyed their friend they empowered.

I never said you smited me, just made the same observation as JDR.
I am often in the middle ground too. The history I and others spoke to
here is not welcomed on the Jews Media, for a reason. They don't like
my posts for sure. Notice how we vary on here and yet we are all hated
and called " nazi's " by some, LOL ! even Quantum spoke against Neos, lol, I agree, especially about wearing your heart on your skin literally and making a target of yourself, I see them more of a counter culture than bad guys though,
lots of young people, started out as working class UK my understanding.


I remember finding a book at barnes once, written by a jew, claiming that the dulles brothers were anti semites. Something about they were doing too much for Iran and not enough for Israel.
Wiki labels Allen Dulles an
"archetypical upper-crust" anti-Semite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Welsh_Dulles
this might be that book I saw at B & N
http://www.samizdat.com/rinkreview20.html

[philo beddoe]

The Secret War Against the Jews by John Loftus and Mark Aarons
history, St. Martin's Press (hardcover), 1994, 658 pages
reviewed by Deane Rink, deanerink@hotmail.com

Deane Rink, writer, producer, and project director, is a voracious reader with very eclectic tastes. He sends us short, provocative reviews, introducing us to fascinating books that otherwise might pass unnoticed. He has worked for PBS, National Geographic, the American Museum of Natural History, Hearst Entertainment, and Carl Sagan. From his involvement in numerous projects about science, he has remarkable insight into present-day scientific endeavors and their implications, and in-depth knowledge of specialized fields (like Antarctica from his two "Live from Antarctica" PBS productions. But he also savors provides illuminating commentary on literature, fantasy, biography, and popular fiction. Links to Deane's other reviews. You can reach him at deanerink@hotmail.com

Most reviews try to extract facts or anecdotes from the book in question to give a summation of its central thesis, or bring in contradictory evidence to prove the book's unreliability. The epic sweep and scale of the story told by these authors, the fact that they are working with "soft" evidence from which they draw hard and disturbing conclusions, indeed the essential
unprovability of many of their assertions, argue against this approach in the present case. The sheer size and multi-generational nature of this Twentieth Century epic almost demand that the entire book be read and carefully digested. I worked my way through it slowly, consulting every footnote and in some cases, outside sources, to make sure what I was reading made sense and was not explainable by more innocent historical reasoning. It appears to me that the authors got enough of it right for their central thesis to stand. Even though it was published eight years ago, it is as relevant today in a post 9/11 world as it ever was during the mid-1990s.

The book's subtitle presents its central thesis: "How Western Intelligence Betrayed the Jewish People." One of its authors, John Loftus, was a former prosecutor with the U.S. Justice Department's Nazi-hunting unit, and was granted access to classified CIA and NATO archives. He probably developed the big picture, his central thesis, from his prodecutorial days, and went about filling it in and updating it by interviewing a bevy of old spooks, retired spies from the CIA, MI6, KGB, Mossad, and the French and German intelligence agencies, among others. Small, independently-verifiable, portions of this larger story have already appeared on CBS News's 60 Minutes and ABC's Prime Time, but this is the first place of which I am aware where a consistent narrative carries through from the discovery of Middle Eastern oil deposits and the rise of Nazism in the 1920s and 1930s to the Intifada and the Persian Gulf War in the 1980s and 1990s. If a mere ten per cent of what this book alleges is true, Twentieth Century history as written by the victors is a shameful distortion, and my hunch is that a lot more than ten per cent of this book is accurate.

Of course, the question of why retired spooks would talk, and the verifiability of their information when they are granted anonymity, is a valid one. No doubt many retired intelligence officers are still in the disinformation game, honestly believing that their roles as hidden puppet masters served a higher end, and even those who are cleansing a guilty conscience must be assayed for self-serving statements and exculpatory diversions. Many of the confidential sources cited herein ae backed up,
however, by newly declassified documents, and build upon assertions already published elsewhere. What follows is a brief precis.

The modern world begins, the authors suggest, at the end of World War I, when British diplomat/adventurers Jack Philby (father of Soviet spy Kim Philby and legendary Arabist) and Lawrence of Arabia endeavour to unify a bunch of warring Bedouin tribes into nationhood, best represented by Saudi Arabia. Aware that black gold (oil) lies underneath the desert sands, Philby gingerly befriends Ibn Saud, and makes him the first Saudi king. But Philby is not solely interested in empire, even his own British one; he is interested in making money, and forges an alliance with an American intelligence agent in charge of Middle Eastern affairs, Allen Dulles. By the 1930s, Ibn Saud and Philby are secret supporters of the Nazi rise to
political power in Germany, and bring Dulles, a NYC-based corporate lawyer for Sullivan and Cromwell, in on their scheme. It is a triple game driven by their hatred of Zionism and the Jews, motivated by their obsessive seeking of profits, and designed to completely transform the landscape of the Middle East. Philby and Dulles convince Ibn Saud to allow limited Jewish immigration to Palestine, assuring him that the numbers will never challenge or upset his control. When Jews leave Germany, their assets are confiscated by Hitler, who shares a percentage of these with dummy corporations established by Philby, Dulles, and their allies. Some of this money is used to arm Ibn Saud, and intelligence disclosures to him by Philby enable Ibn Saud to become king of Saudi Arabia over other Arab leaders supported by the British government. This double-dealing by British and American corporations continues throughout World War II, and incredibly is never halted by the Western allies, who would rather that Dulles stay in place andround up German intelligence agents after World War II's end for the upcoming Cold War against a previous ally, the USSR. One of the reasons that Jews are so hated by this clique, which includes Rockefeller's Standard Oil, is that many Jews were supporters of the left, anathema to corporate internationalists.

After World War II ended, and the dimensions of the Nazi Holocaust became clear, it was politically impossible for men like these to constrict immigration of the survivors to Palestine, and ultimately impossible for them to stop the formation of the state of Israel. They tried, as did their successors, but in a delicious irony, some of the very left-wing Jews they detested discovered these perfidious schemes with the help of the USSR's own intelligence agencies (Remember, the Soviets were the first to get to
Berlin and they seized many Nazi intelligence documents, as well as many Nazi spies themselves). Also, Soviet intelligence had long used "fascist Jews" to penetrate the inner circles of the Third Reich and assist the USSR in its struggles on the Eastern Front. Many of these Jews were communist double agents, but others defected to Zionism after the war, and told Israeli founding fathers like David Ben-Gurion of secret deals between the British and the Americans, and the Nazis. The Zionists blackmailed Dulles's successor in Europe, James Jesus Angleton, to allow Jews to be smuggled into Palestine, and blackmailed the USSR (by threatening to disclose Soviet penetration of the CIA and MI6) so that anti-Semite Joseph Stalin actually
supported the partition of Israel. That the nation-building Zionists played just as dirty as the communists and capitalists, the authors assert, is the reason that Israeli historians did not welcome the book's disclosures any more than the other duplicitous parties.

In the first days of Israeli statehood, survival was not assured. Arms from communist Czechoslovakia helped them win their first war with the surrounding Arabs. But the early Israeli leaders knew that they could not depend upon the USSR for continued support, so Ben-Gurion politically isolated the communists from his government and warned Angleton, now USA's
intelligence officer for Israel, that Kim Philby (disgusted by his father's anti-British, pro-Nazi leanings, so much so that he himself became a traitor to the UK and a secret convert to communism, even as he rose in the ranks of British intelligence) was a Soviet mole inside MI-6. Angleton buried these warnings, because subsequent investigation of such charges would have
revealed Angleton's and Dulles's financial collaborations with the Nazis.

During the Eisenhower era, John Foster Dulles became Secretary of State and brother Allen was appointed director of the CIA. Vice-President Richard Nixon encouraged the immigration to America of European ethnics, Eastern European ex-fascists, who were intended to counterbalance the consistently Democratic-voting American Jews. Allen Dulles betrayed both Britain and Israel in his push to secure American access to Saudi oil deposits through companies like Aramco. In fact, a revolving door between the intelligence community and the oil companies that allowed ex-spooks to become oil executives, dictated American Middle East policy, and contributed to Nixon's razor-thin loss to JFK in 1960. In 1967, while outwardly supporting Israel in its Six Day War against the united Arab armies, both the USA and the UK shared Israeli defense plans with Arab oil producers. This is why the Israelis knocked out the American surveillance ship the USS Liberty, though at the time all sides agreed it was an accident.

Similarly, the official history of the Yom Kippur War of 1973 credits the intervention of an American Jew, Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, with saving Israel by warning off the USSR and airlifting arms to Israel. Loftus and Aarons provide a different take on this. In their view (or that of many intelligence officers whom they interviewed), Kissinger was a military incompetent and created a climate for war by sabotaging the Sadat/Rogers peace negotiations because he could not claim credit for these. Kissinger dithered with intelligence, mobilization, and re-supply, and Israel would have been in serious danger without the intervention of White House chief-of-staff (and ex-military man) Alexander Haig. Kissinger scapegoated CIA counterintelligence chief James Jesus Angleton for these blunders, forcing Angleton's retirement.

When Reagan was elected, a parallel to the Eisenhower years re-emerges. Vice-President Bush organized shadow intelligence operations out of his offices, the best established of these being the Iran/Contra arms deal. Bush dispatched CIA man Bill Buckely to Lebanon in a scheme to kidnap Arab terrorists. Instead, Buckley himself was seized and held hostage. Bush
authorized a secret arms shipment to Iran, hoping Iranian pressure on terrorist groups it supported would get Buckley back. This shipment was unwittingly intercepted by Israel (with the help of Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard), who thought the shipment was destined for the PLO. Bush was in a tight position, and subsequently hoodwinked Israeli intelligence to assist in this scheme a year later in 1985, and then deflected blame on them so he could preserve his political chances to become president. Just one more modern example where ill-advised and venal secret schemes make a mockery of the official history. Bush's intermeddling continued with secret arms sales to Iraq, then a punishing Gulf War against Iraq when Iraq became a bigger
threat than its rival Iran.

While the focus of this book is the secret war against the Jews, it raises larger questions about how clandestine intelligence operations have distorted our appreciation of history and made it nearly impossible for the average citizen to follow rationally his country's foreign policy initiatives. For this reviewer, it has placed the events of 9/11, the war on Afghanistan and the impending war on Iraq, in a larger, more disturbing perspective and suggests rather sad answers to seemingly logical questions
like: "Why didn't America retaliate against Saudi Arabia (15 of the 19 suicide hijackers in the 9/11 attacks were Saudis) after 9/11?" and "What kind of secret game is George W. Bush and his advisors playing with their post-9/11 saber-rattling?"

I should add one final caveat. My summary of eighty years' history is cursory at best, and omits much connective tissue and many fascinating ancillary stories. It also leaves out the massive documentation provided by the authors. The serious reader is cordially invited to dive in and digest the entire detailed story, and judge its accuracy for himself.

[FreeEnergy]

Soros is also responsible for doing the NED work by overthrowing governments,
he is the point man on the "colored revolutions."


I second that, it is a high possibility. Soros runs "soros funds" in every little country, finances top young talent and even sends them to schools typically in London and USA and such. then these young minds get indoctrinated and sent back. Some of these soros-created young fellas now run countries. It is A FACT.

Oh...you know who Khodorkovsky is? google that if you don't. when rothschilds financed take over and pillaging of parts of the soviet union, khodorkovsky was created as one of many, mostly young, russian "billionaires". mostly eager smart young guys with nothing to loose. mostly overnight. soros created and "sold" a political party to khodorkovsky, right before putin-khodorkovsky conflict.

sorry for offtop, back to hitler.


Magnes: Why idolize him ? Hitler destroyed Europe. For that alone why
give him any credit, yes we can learn from some things, like what
Sarge said, Hitler also is responsible for giving half of Europe to
the USSR, basically Khazars divided Europe and mass murdered
everyone before and after WWII.

This is actually an excellent point. USSR, under a red communist khazarian flag. Germany, under a red khazarian flag. Sure they sacrificed some jews, it was inevitable. But the result if that war was massive deaths of europeans and japanese and OVERWHELMING VICTORY OF THE JEWS.

They divided Europe, and got their own country which connects the most important part of the middle east - Red Sea to Mediterranian Sea, it is the best and by far the cheapest way for asian goods to Europe....this does sound like it was planned, now that I am looking at it in this perspective, if you look at maps israel doesn't really seem to need port of Eilat, and that area never had any joos in the past at all...

In that sense, bombing hiroshima and nagasaki makes perfect sense, if this was sinagogue of satan in charge.

[Nordmann]

Most of western Europe would have been communist shitholes had not Hitler done what he did, it is quite clear that the communists had intentions to invade and "liberate" the European workers, Barbarossa pretty much saved the Nordic countries from becoming another "eastern bloc" and had he not engaged the red army at Stalingrad then they would have penetrated deep into Europe.

Germany's victory is a free Europa.

As for this Hitler was funded by the Rockefeller and Rothschilds nonsense, I'm starting to think that certain people find comfort in believing that "at least America isn't any worse" or something like that when in fact they are, they are much worse.

[Nordmann]

Also read Suvorov.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icebreaker_%28Suvorov

[philo beddoe]

Most of western Europe would have been communist sh*tholes had not Hitler done what he did, it is quite clear that the communists had intentions to invade and "liberate" the European workers, Barbarossa pretty much saved the Nordic countries from becoming another "eastern bloc" and had he not engaged the red army at Stalingrad then they would have penetrated deep into Europe.

Germany's victory is a free Europa.

As for this Hitler was funded by the Rockefeller and Rothschilds nonsense, I'm starting to think that certain people find comfort in believing that "at least America isn't any worse" or something like that when in fact they are, they are much worse.
Yeah, we have 'freedom' here, just ask Edgar Steele.
Fact: The Untied States sent materials and weapons to great Britain and the Soviet Union, even going so far as helping build a DC-3 factory in Russia.
fact: The United States sent no tanks or guns or bombs or planes or food to Germany.

[Bigjon]

Most of western Europe would have been communist sh*tholes had not Hitler done what he did, it is quite clear that the communists had intentions to invade and "liberate" the European workers, Barbarossa pretty much saved the Nordic countries from becoming another "eastern bloc" and had he not engaged the red army at Stalingrad then they would have penetrated deep into Europe.

Germany's victory is a free Europa.

As for this Hitler was funded by the Rockefeller and Rothschilds nonsense, I'm starting to think that certain people find comfort in believing that "at least America isn't any worse" or something like that when in fact they are, they are much worse.


Norway and Sweden are already communist sh*t holes. The Jews have a lock on their banks and Newsmedia.

And they like it.

Germany’s victory? They didn’t win and Hitler kept them from winning at multiple points in the war.

The FACT that Rockefeller and the Rothschild’s funded Hitler is well documented. Read Antony Sutton’s books to find out.

[FreeEnergy]

Most of western Europe would have been communist sh*tholes had not Hitler done what he did, it is quite clear that the communists had intentions to invade and "liberate" the European workers


That's what your history books say.

Europe is a socialist sh*thole RIGHT NOW. You have a confusing definition of the word "communists". With an average taxes around 60% (and in some countries called "best to live in" by socialist magazine "Forbes" up to 70%), and "unified" under globalist tzars running the show out of Benelux (no such country as Belgium or nationality "belgian", it is a piece of Netherlands and a piece of France. No such nationality as Luxemburgian, it is a kingdom with its own rules. Netherland is under full khazarian rule since centuries ago - does that ring a bell??), and running banking out of Switwzerland and City of London.

How else would a communist with a jewish last name Angela Dorothea Kasner (also known as Angela Merkel) be in charge of Germany? (tip: her grandfather was a poliseman, father "allegedly" lutheranian pastor who was sent to East Germany to do what? ...most likely her father was an agent for either stasi or communists).

Interesting read about Angela Merkel (Kasner):
http://www.lochmann-verlag.com/angiemerkelno52.pdf

[DMac]

Most of western Europe would have been communist sh*tholes had not Hitler done what he did, it is quite clear that the communists had intentions to invade and "liberate" the European workers, Barbarossa pretty much saved the Nordic countries from becoming another "eastern bloc" and had he not engaged the red army at Stalingrad then they would have penetrated deep into Europe.

Germany's victory is a free Europa.

As for this Hitler was funded by the Rockefeller and Rothschilds nonsense, I'm starting to think that certain people find comfort in believing that "at least America isn't any worse" or something like that when in fact they are, they are much worse.
Yeah, we have 'freedom' here, just ask Edgar Steele.
Fact: The Untied States sent materials and weapons to great Britain and the Soviet Union, even going so far as helping build a DC-3 factory in Russia.
fact: The United States sent no tanks or guns or bombs or planes or food to Germany.




Cherished delusions being shattered? Is that why you call the West's supplying the Nazis nonsense?

1. du Pont armed the Nazi war machine by supplying gunpowder
2. IBM armed the Nazis with technology
3. Harriman banking subsidiaries kept the money flow pouring into Germany (J. P. Morgan, Dillon, Read and Company, Union Bank of New York)
4. Standard Oil via Rockefeller (Texaco) and British Petroleum fueled the Nazis as Germany was short on fuel and oil related products (rubber).

This stuff is not hard to find hard evidence of. Why folks are keeping their head in the sand on this subject is beyond me, unless....


You are all morons...

??? ??? ??? ??? ???

[FreeEnergy]

Few more interesting links:

Random thoughts on two aria tyrants (someone's blog)
http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/2009/03/a_few_random_thoughts_on_two_a.html

Considering that hitler was born in Austria, and Austria is the birthplace and hotbed of communism (as I mentioned earlier, IV International is still headquartered in Vienna, Austria), it all very quickly becomes unusually interesting.

National Security Archive.
Prague (Czech) communists call for Berlin Wall to open in 1989
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB294/index.htm

[TPTB]

Here's a picture worth a thousand words. Few, if any other Dictator in history could match Hitlers penchant for Autocratic totalitarian order. A societal machine state with the uniformity of a gigantic circuit board. Socialistic psychopathy. Inhuman, as bloodless as an IBM punch card.

A State in which you do as you are told, period. A State of absolute authority, not by God, but by men.


You are all morons...


You are all morons...


You are all morons... ETC.... :D

[FreeEnergy]

TPTB, pictures that are worth thousand words back to you. Military everywhere likes to parade. The fact that in the background there are three flags with swastika, instead of three flags with stars (or stars and stripes) is really irrelevant. It makes no difference whatsoever.

The first one is a North Korea military parade

Second is a poster where Stalin is sending russians to fight Germany.

Third is US military parade

[JDRock]

1. He WASNT aryan! = just a poser

2. he NEVER EVER killed a SINGLE RICH JEW....NOT ONE! = poser

3. Wasnt even GERMAN! = poser

4. Lost an easily winnable war with a series of suspicious decisions = poser

5. revered as the great white hope by...POSERS. :oo-->

[philo beddoe]

Here's a picture worth a thousand words. Few, if any other Dictator in history could match Hitlers penchant for Autocratic totalitarian order. A societal machine state with the uniformity of a gigantic circuit board. Socialistic psychopathy. Inhuman, as bloodless as an IBM punch card.

A State in which you do as you are told, period. A State of absolute authority, not by God, but by men.


You are all morons...


You are all morons...


You are all morons... ETC.... :D



Somewhow I get the feeling that everyone here who thinks that also believes that we have freedom here i the good ol' USSA. We don't have any more freedom than WWII Germany, in fact we probably have less. The kicker her is that we are being victimized by blood poisoning (race mixing). We also have practically no culture.

[philo beddoe]

Most of western Europe would have been communist sh*tholes had not Hitler done what he did, it is quite clear that the communists had intentions to invade and "liberate" the European workers, Barbarossa pretty much saved the Nordic countries from becoming another "eastern bloc" and had he not engaged the red army at Stalingrad then they would have penetrated deep into Europe.

Germany's victory is a free Europa.

As for this Hitler was funded by the Rockefeller and Rothschilds nonsense, I'm starting to think that certain people find comfort in believing that "at least America isn't any worse" or something like that when in fact they are, they are much worse.
Yeah, we have 'freedom' here, just ask Edgar Steele.
Fact: The Untied States sent materials and weapons to great Britain and the Soviet Union, even going so far as helping build a DC-3 factory in Russia.
fact: The United States sent no tanks or guns or bombs or planes or food to Germany.




Cherished delusions being shattered? Is that why you call the West's supplying the Nazis nonsense?

1. du Pont armed the Nazi war machine by supplying gunpowder
2. IBM armed the Nazis with technology
3. Harriman banking subsidiaries kept the money flow pouring into Germany (J. P. Morgan, Dillon, Read and Company, Union Bank of New York)
4. Standard Oil via Rockefeller (Texaco) and British Petroleum fueled the Nazis as Germany was short on fuel and oil related products (rubber).

This stuff is not hard to find hard evidence of. Why folks are keeping their head in the sand on this subject is beyond me, unless....


You are all morons...

??? ??? ??? ??? ???

1) Was dupont the United States Government?
2) What did IBM send, some punch cards?
3) Is it proven that Harriman were zionist and not anti communists?
4) Standard oil was not fueling the Germans during the battle of the bulge.

And most importantly, none of this proves that Hitler was a secret puppet of the jeous.

[DMac]

Philo,

I think things in the US are really fked up. In some ways worse than Nazi Germany. Some ways not as bad as Nazi Germany. I also think there is no culture in the US. It's one of the reasons the barbarians (modern illegal immigrants) come here - they do not have to acclimate.

Illegal immigration, IMO, is one of the 3 factors precipitating the fall of this empire. Just like Rome.

1. Inflation - dollar 90% devalued in <100 years (Roman coin clipping followed a similar pace)
2. Over extended military campaigns
3. Barbarians let through the gates

(not on topic so stopping there...)

[philo beddoe]

Philo,

I think things in the US are really fked up. In some ways worse than Nazi Germany. Some ways not as bad as Nazi Germany. I also think there is no culture in the US. It's one of the reasons the barbarians (modern illegal immigrants) come here - they do not have to acclimate.

Illegal immigration, IMO, is one of the 3 factors precipitating the fall of this empire. Just like Rome.

1. Inflation - dollar 90% devalued in <100 years (Roman coin clipping followed a similar pace)
2. Over extended military campaigns
3. Barbarians let through the gates

(not on topic so stopping there...)
I think it's all on topic. There are some great minds here. Believe me, you won't find them on social networking sites. We can all make our own history here. G-sus will soon become THE authority on revisionist history. So back to the OT

War seizures controversy

While Averell Harriman served as Senior Partner of Brown Brothers Harriman & Co., Harriman Bank was the main Wall Street connection for German companies and the varied U.S. financial interests of Fritz Thyssen, who had been an early financial backer of the Nazi party until 1938, but who by 1939 had fled Germany and was bitterly denouncing Adolf Hitler. Business transactions for profit with Nazi Germany were not illegal when Hitler declared war on the US, but, six days after the attack on Pearl Harbor, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed the Trading With the Enemy Act after it had been made public that U.S. companies were doing business with the declared enemy of the United States. On October 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City. [citation needed]

The Harriman business interests seized under the act in October and November 1942 included: [citation needed]

* Union Banking Corporation (UBC) (for Thyssen and Brown Brothers Harriman).
* Holland-American Trading Corporation (with Harriman)
* the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation (with Harriman)
* Silesian-American Corporation (this company was partially owned by a German entity; during the war the Germans tried to take the full control of Silesian-American. In response to that, American government seized German owned minority shares in the company, leaving the U.S. partners to carry on the portion of the business in the United States.)

The assets were held by the government for the duration of the war, then returned afterward. UBC was dissolved in 1951.

It seems like they were doing business until the commie rosenfelt put a plug on it............

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Averell_Harriman

[DMac]

Most of western Europe would have been communist sh*tholes had not Hitler done what he did, it is quite clear that the communists had intentions to invade and "liberate" the European workers, Barbarossa pretty much saved the Nordic countries from becoming another "eastern bloc" and had he not engaged the red army at Stalingrad then they would have penetrated deep into Europe.

Germany's victory is a free Europa.

As for this Hitler was funded by the Rockefeller and Rothschilds nonsense, I'm starting to think that certain people find comfort in believing that "at least America isn't any worse" or something like that when in fact they are, they are much worse.
Yeah, we have 'freedom' here, just ask Edgar Steele.
Fact: The Untied States sent materials and weapons to great Britain and the Soviet Union, even going so far as helping build a DC-3 factory in Russia.
fact: The United States sent no tanks or guns or bombs or planes or food to Germany.




Cherished delusions being shattered? Is that why you call the West's supplying the Nazis nonsense?

1. du Pont armed the Nazi war machine by supplying gunpowder
2. IBM armed the Nazis with technology
3. Harriman banking subsidiaries kept the money flow pouring into Germany (J. P. Morgan, Dillon, Read and Company, Union Bank of New York)
4. Standard Oil via Rockefeller (Texaco) and British Petroleum fueled the Nazis as Germany was short on fuel and oil related products (rubber).

This stuff is not hard to find hard evidence of. Why folks are keeping their head in the sand on this subject is beyond me, unless....


You are all morons...

??? ??? ??? ??? ???

1) Was dupont the United States Government?
2) What did IBM send, some punch cards?
3) Is it proven that Harriman were zionist and not anti communists?
4) Standard oil was not fueling the Germans during the battle of the bulge.

And most importantly, none of this proves that Hitler was a secret puppet of the jeous.


You need to do more research.

1) Was dupont the United States Government?
Strawman. duPont was the United States supplier of gun powder. As an American family they are like a baron or lord if you will.

2) What did IBM send, some punch cards?
you've got to be joking here. Read some books!

3) Is it proven that Harriman were zionist and not anti communists?
Harriman is a Rothschild lackey - they are communists! Communists and fascists are basically cousins
4) Standard oil was not fueling the Germans during the battle of the bulge.
Cannot say yes or no. It is a provable fact that BP, Standard Oil/texaco supplied Germany with oil through the rise of the Nazis in the 1930s.

[philo beddoe]

Here's some Oooga Booga about IBM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On7IfqKyfqg

[Grand Master Melon]

1. He WASNT aryan! = just a poser

2. he NEVER EVER killed a SINGLE RICH JEW....NOT ONE! = poser

3. Wasnt even GERMAN! = poser

4. Lost an easily winnable war with a series of suspicious decisions = poser

5. revered as the great white hope by...POSERS. :oo-->


+1000

bonus 1000000 for using the word poser

[MAGNES]

During the Eisenhower era, John Foster Dulles became Secretary of State and brother Allen was appointed director of the CIA.


The truth is right in front of your faces, Baruch mentored and put into
power Churchill and Eisenhower, and the Dulles brothers were on the
same team, they were Wall St. lawyers that worked for Rockefeller
and Rothchild and they are the point men that armed and financed
Hitler and even the USSR. The people that fought Hilter and the people
that armed Hitler and the USSR controlled the USA totally.

They killed Patton, Forrestal, maybe McCarthy and even Kennedy, one of the Dulles' was on the Warren Commission cover up.

The Dulles brother worked for the high rankng PTB, all Jews, Wall St
FED Jews that created the CFR. All Rockefeller. And they helped create
Israel as partners to these people. They started WWI and got the USA
into the war too. Wilson and Col House were a part of same group.
You can document all of this, these are the CFR Jews controlling the USA.
MacDonald that outed them on CNN was murdered in flight 007.
This is key information that the high level Jews do not want you to know.

The partnered banksters sat on key boards like IG Farben,
some of the board members were put to death, but Warburg
and key partners were not, they killed their own partners that
armed and created Hitler.

The people that deny this history are actually helping the FED Jews
at the top.

@ JDR, Jews being killed,
they murdered many, but there are no gas chambers,
IG Farben owned Auscwitz which was a network of camps
owned by the very people that created the FED Reserve.
They did run slave prison camps and worked people to death.
And they did murder Jews, most of them murdered were in
Eastern Europe where the Bolsheviks murdered Christians
beforehand. They didn't bomb key factories and camps
cause they property belonged to them along with the slave
labor. That is why they did not bomb Auscwitz one of the
biggest networks of camps and factories full of slave labor.

And guess what, some say the Dulles brothers are related
to Rockefellers, they are Rockefeller family. Smedly Butler
worked for them, that is who he was talking about.
Jews raped south america using them and owned key
business and countries.

The Dulles's are "anti semites" ROFL !
Yes, as much as Warburg, Rockefeller and Rotchild being
anti semites mass murdering average Jews,
and creating Israel and being recognized as
such, Kings of Israel and Jews.

Many people posting here have no clue who Dulles's are.
And everything is black and white to them. There is
nothing black and white with major deceptions and
secret societies and powerful people destroying nations.
I am no expert and do not claim to have all the answers.
The same people at top I am talking about did everything,
they are the FED Jews for one, same people, networks, orgs,
you can prove and show this without ever talking about Hitler
and WWII, but then later, they are all over that.

LARRY MACDONALD OUTS THE SAME CRIMINALS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csq9g5sX8v0

[philo beddoe]

http://rationalrevolution.net/war/american_supporters_of_the_europ.htm
According to some, Charles Lindberg and enry Ford were secretly working for the jews who were secretly supplying Hitler.
Lindberg and Ford and Father Coughlin were against commies and world jewry. Ford gave a copy of his book International Jew to Hitler.


Charles Lindbergh attending Nazi party in Berlin - 1935

A number of prominent and wealthy American businessmen helped to support fascist regimes in Europe from the 1920s through the 1940s. These people helped to support Francisco Franco during the Spanish Civil War of 1936, as well as Benito Mussolini, and Adolph Hitler.

Some of the primary and more famous Americans and companies that were involved with the fascist regimes of Europe are: William Randolph Hearst, Joseph Kennedy (JFK's father), Charles Lindbergh, John Rockefeller, Andrew Mellon (head of Alcoa, banker, and Secretary of Treasury), DuPont, General Motors, Standard Oil (now Exxon), Ford, ITT, Allen Dulles (later head of the CIA), Prescott Bush, National City Bank, and General Electric.

It should be noted that businessmen from many countries, including England and Australia, also worked with the fascist regimes of Europe prior to WWII. The fascist governments were involved in a high level of construction, production, and international business.

I.G. Farben, a German company, was the largest chemical manufacturing enterprise in the world during the early part of the 20th century. As such the company had many holdings in a variety of countries, including America. The American holdings of I.G. Farben included Bayer Co., General Aniline Works, Agfa Ansco, and Winthrop Chemical Company.

I.G. Farben was critical in the development of the German economy and war machine leading up to WWII. During this time I.G. Farben's international holdings along with its international business contracts with companies like Standard Oil, DuPont, Alcoa, and Dow Chemical were crucial in supplying the Nazi regime with the materials needed for war as well as financial support.

The Spanish Civil War was the precursor to World War II. Fascist Francisco Franco was aided by Hitler and Mussolini during the Spanish Civil War. At this time GM, Ford, DuPont, and Standard Oil were working with Franco and supplying the fascist powers of Europe. At this same time many Americans were protesting the goings on in Europe as well as the involvement of American companies in helping the fascist powers. A group of American volunteer soldiers known as the Abe Lincoln Brigade went to Spain during this time to fight against Franco in defense of the Spanish Republic. This group was made up primarily of leftist American groups, such as members of American socialist parties and communist parties.

[philo beddoe]

Why? Because he believed in an international Jewish conspiracy. Ford was more then just anti-Semitic, you can see by reading his publications that it went well beyond a matter of racism and not liking people. He viewed this, and many others did as well, as a war between the Anglo way of life and that of the Jews.

The hate that so many talk about in America today, it runs much deeper then many would imagine, and it is founded in much more substantial ideas then most would think as well.

Ford helped shape Hitler's views on the Jews, and those of many people around he world.

At the Nuremberg Trials Baldur Von Shirach claimed that Henry Ford was the primary inspiration for his anti-Semitism.

Shirach, a former Nazi youth leader, stated: "You have no idea what a great influence this book had on the thinking of the German youth…I read Henry Ford's book 'The International Jewry'…and became anti-Semitic."

[JDRock]

[quote=Nordmann ]
Most of western Europe would have been communist sh*tholes had not Hitler done what he did, it is quite clear that the communists had intentions to invade and "liberate" the European workers, Barbarossa pretty much saved the Nordic countries from becoming another "eastern bloc" and had he not engaged the red army at Stalingrad then they would have penetrated deep into Europe.

Germany's victory is a free Europa.

As for this Hitler was funded by the Rockefeller and Rothschilds nonsense, I'm starting to think that certain people find comfort in believing that "at least America isn't any worse" or something like that when in fact they are, they are much worse.
Yeah, we have 'freedom' here, just ask Edgar Steele.
Fact: The Untied States sent materials and weapons to great Britain and the Soviet Union, even going so far as helping build a DC-3 factory in Russia.
fact: The United States sent no tanks or guns or bombs or planes or food to Germany.




Cherished delusions being shattered? Is that why you call the West's supplying the Nazis nonsense?

1. du Pont armed the Nazi war machine by supplying gunpowder
2. IBM armed the Nazis with technology
3. Harriman banking subsidiaries kept the money flow pouring into Germany (J. P. Morgan, Dillon, Read and Company, Union Bank of New York)
4. Standard Oil via Rockefeller (Texaco) and British Petroleum fueled the Nazis as Germany was short on fuel and oil related products (rubber).

This stuff is not hard to find hard evidence of. Why folks are keeping their head in the sand on this subject is beyond me, unless....


You are all morons...

??? ??? ??? ??? ???
[/quote

my theory on WHY philo and company REFUSE to change their beliefs to in light of the obvious facts is, they attach much to hitler that never really was....like being aryan ( not) arresting and killing joo bankers ( not)...they create their own hiler/shikelgruber and defend the imaginary one... :oo-->

[JDRock]

and yet no one mentions the more obvious fact that joe jewison was a joo, and murdered millions of orthodox christians


Since when did you see anyone here posting give them a pass ?

Quantum spoke about Bormann, do you have any idea what
he admitted to ? I spoke a lot about related issues on this.
It goes way deeper than Bormann or Hitlers doctor.

Hitler destroyed Europe and Europeans and gave half of it to the USSR.

Even if he was legit for arguments sake he is a failed leader that needs
to take responsibility for destruction. That is the end result.

Outing the International Jews, the FED, creators of the USSR and Nazi Germany
is important to out the criminals today.

Many of us here agree and disagree depending on the points.
Old friends too.


Eisenk-word gave Europe to Jewison, not Hitler...he barely had any more territory than he had before Hitler attacked..........Eisenk-word held back supplies to Patton, who could of marched all the way to Belarus.


So Eisenhower, Stalin, etc, were all jews, but NOT Hitler?

Come on... CONTROLLED OPPOSITION is their game!

Even if Hitler WERE trying to "fight the jews", he was still being used as a pawn to further an agenda.

Look who's winning...


Gonzo HITS the target!

[philo beddoe]

[quote=Nordmann ]
Most of western Europe would have been communist sh*tholes had not Hitler done what he did, it is quite clear that the communists had intentions to invade and "liberate" the European workers, Barbarossa pretty much saved the Nordic countries from becoming another "eastern bloc" and had he not engaged the red army at Stalingrad then they would have penetrated deep into Europe.

Germany's victory is a free Europa.

As for this Hitler was funded by the Rockefeller and Rothschilds nonsense, I'm starting to think that certain people find comfort in believing that "at least America isn't any worse" or something like that when in fact they are, they are much worse.
Yeah, we have 'freedom' here, just ask Edgar Steele.
Fact: The Untied States sent materials and weapons to great Britain and the Soviet Union, even going so far as helping build a DC-3 factory in Russia.
fact: The United States sent no tanks or guns or bombs or planes or food to Germany.




Cherished delusions being shattered? Is that why you call the West's supplying the Nazis nonsense?

1. du Pont armed the Nazi war machine by supplying gunpowder
2. IBM armed the Nazis with technology
3. Harriman banking subsidiaries kept the money flow pouring into Germany (J. P. Morgan, Dillon, Read and Company, Union Bank of New York)
4. Standard Oil via Rockefeller (Texaco) and British Petroleum fueled the Nazis as Germany was short on fuel and oil related products (rubber).

This stuff is not hard to find hard evidence of. Why folks are keeping their head in the sand on this subject is beyond me, unless....


You are all morons...

??? ??? ??? ??? ???
[/quote

my theory on WHY philo and company REFUSE to change their beliefs to in light of the obvious facts is, they attach much to hitler that never really was....like being aryan ( not) arresting and killing joo bankers ( not)...they create their own hiler/shikelgruber and defend the imaginary one... :oo-->





Yeah, sure......Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh were jews too..... forgot about that.......... Father Coughlin...well he was crypto too

[JDRock]

..umm :oo--> the thread is about HITLERS " authenticity" :oo--> ....not fords or lindbergs........nice dodge- bob -weave there.....
back to the subject, can you PROVE that hitles/shikelgruber was aryan??
didnt take $ from jewry to support his war....jailed and hung ANY rich joo bankers and big wigs??

as hoarder has said for years and years, LOOK at the end result to determine intention.

[philo beddoe]

..umm :oo--> the thread is about HITLERS " authenticity" :oo--> ....not fords or lindbergs........nice dodge- bob -weave there.....
back to the subject, can you PROVE that hitles/shikelgruber was aryan??
didnt take $ from jewry to support his war....jailed and hung ANY rich joo bankers and big wigs??

as hoarder has said for years and years, LOOK at the end result to determine intention.
it's not a dodge and bob .....nice try you say he was supported by western jews.......Ford and Lindbergh were not joos, and they supported Hitler

[philo beddoe]

In 1933 in a speech in Stuttgart Hitler stated:

"And now Staatspräsident Bolz says that Christianity and the Catholic faith are threatened by us. And to that charge I can answer: In the first place it is Christians and not international atheists who now stand at the head of Germany. I do not merely talk of Christianity, no, I also profess that I will never ally myself with the parties which destroy Christianity. If many wish today to take threatened Christianity under their protection, where, I would ask, was Christianity for them in these fourteen years when they went arm in arm with atheism? No, never and at no time was greater internal damage done to Christianity than in these fourteen years when a party, theoretically Christian, sat with those who denied God in one and the same Government.

I would ask whether the economic policy of this now superseded system was a Christian policy. Was the inflation an undertaking for which Christians could answer, or has the destruction of German life, of the German peasant as well as of the middles classes, been Christian?"

[sirgonzo420]

..umm :oo--> the thread is about HITLERS " authenticity" :oo--> ....not fords or lindbergs........nice dodge- bob -weave there.....
back to the subject, can you PROVE that hitles/shikelgruber was aryan??
didnt take $ from jewry to support his war....jailed and hung ANY rich joo bankers and big wigs??

as hoarder has said for years and years, LOOK at the end result to determine intention.
it's not a dodge and bob .....nice try you say he was supported by western jews.......Ford and Lindbergh were not joos, and they supported Hitler


Just because some NON-jews supported Hitler does not mean that some jews didn't.

Hitler couldn't have gotten where he did without jewish help.

Hell, even when Hitler was a struggling artist, a jew bought his paintings (for pennies, but just enough to keep ole Adolf out of the breadlines) to resell for profit.

Hitler was brought to power by jews and jewish finance.

Maybe he wasn't "in on it", but he sure as hell was being USED.

Knowingly or not, Hitler was a TOOL.

[hoarder]

it's not a dodge and bob .....nice try you say he was supported by western jews.......Ford and Lindbergh were not joos, and they supported Hitler
Ford and Lindbergh were mistaken about Hitler. Controlled opposition is very effective because it even fools some of the best. You can take that as a compliment. ;)

[philo beddoe]

..umm :oo--> the thread is about HITLERS " authenticity" :oo--> ....not fords or lindbergs........nice dodge- bob -weave there.....
back to the subject, can you PROVE that hitles/shikelgruber was aryan??
didnt take $ from jewry to support his war....jailed and hung ANY rich joo bankers and big wigs??

as hoarder has said for years and years, LOOK at the end result to determine intention.
it's not a dodge and bob .....nice try you say he was supported by western jews.......Ford and Lindbergh were not joos, and they supported Hitler


Just because some NON-jews supported Hitler does not mean that some jews didn't.

Hitler couldn't have gotten where he did without jewish help.

Hell, even when Hitler was a struggling artist, a jew bought his paintings (for pennies, but just enough to keep ole Adolf out of the breadlines) to resell for profit.

Hitler was brought to power by jews and jewish finance.

Maybe he wasn't "in on it", but he sure as hell was being USED.

Knowingly or not, Hitler was a TOOL.
Another story about a kind hearted joo helping out little Adi.....don't believe everything you read......

[philo beddoe]

it's not a dodge and bob .....nice try you say he was supported by western jews.......Ford and Lindbergh were not joos, and they supported Hitler
Ford and Lindbergh were mistaken about Hitler. Controlled opposition is very effective because it even fools some of the best. You can take that as a compliment. ;)
Was Fors mistaken in his book "The International Jew"?

[philo beddoe]

http://rationalrevolution.net/special/library/america_new_world_order.htm

[Neuro]

I think you hit the nail on the head Sirgonzo. Zionists wanted Jews to move from Europe to Palestine. Are you crazy they said, we don't want to live in the desert... Hitler was the zionists dream, putting the Jews in the work camps, and then they just needed to create the myths of the gas-chambers and the ovens, and most of them were more than happy to move to the desert...

[hoarder]

Zionists wanted Jews to move from Europe to Palestine. Are you crazy they said, we don't want to live in the desert... Hitler was the zionists dream, putting the Jews in the work camps, and then they just needed to create the myths of the gas-chambers and the ovens, and most of them were more than happy to move to the desert...
Yes. Israel is like a compound where they protect many of the below average Khazars from assimilation and a sanctuary where fugitives from justice can get a new identity and then move to another country.
It also serves as a distraction...it gets people focusing on a parcel of land when Jews are discussed instead of having them realize how cohesive they are by having been out there in the diaspora for thousands of years and not assimilating.
The Rothschilds understand that if there was no parcel of land to solidify the image of Jews as "a people" the goyim would have to envision them as different from other ethnic groups.

[Neuro]

Good point Hoarder. I haven't thought about it like that... Possibly the starving and killing of the Palestinians by the Israeli's is just a sideshow, to distract us from what the banker Jews are doing?

[Awoke]

Merely running a pogrom against the Palistinians as a distraction ploy to detract attention from jewish usury schemes?

Not a chance.

It is genocide, fuelled by hate.

[Bigjon]

I think you hit the nail on the head Sirgonzo. Zionists wanted Jews to move from Europe to Palestine. Are you crazy they said, we don't want to live in the desert... Hitler was the zionists dream, putting the Jews in the work camps, and then they just needed to create the myths of the gas-chambers and the ovens, and most of them were more than happy to move to the desert...


The Jews of WWII didn't just move to Palestine, they also moved to the USA. Jakob Javits complained that all those returning troop ships should be full and many were. Jews who came right in and got cushy jobs working for uncle sam. This is a told about in "Iron Curtain over America" by John Beaty.

[Neuro]

Merely running a pogrom against the Palistinians as a distraction ploy to detract attention from jewish usury schemes?

Not a chance.

It is genocide, fuelled by hate.
You are probably right... Just throwing out some thoughts.

[philo beddoe]

I think you hit the nail on the head Sirgonzo. Zionists wanted Jews to move from Europe to Palestine. Are you crazy they said, we don't want to live in the desert... Hitler was the zionists dream, putting the Jews in the work camps, and then they just needed to create the myths of the gas-chambers and the ovens, and most of them were more than happy to move to the desert...


The Jews of WWII didn't just move to Palestine, they also moved to the USA. Jakob Javits complained that all those returning troop ships should be full and many were. Jews who came right in and got cushy jobs working for uncle sam. This is a told about in "Iron Curtain over America" by John Beaty.
True. A lot of other ethnicities that come here are like mini jews. They know how to scam the system, cheat, overtake city councils and such. Sorry, but Armenians are very much like this. Vietnamese, koreans, arabs and others are very similar.

[hoarder]

A lot of other ethnicities that come here are like mini jews. They know how to scam the system, cheat, overtake city councils and such. Sorry, but Armenians are very much like this. Vietnamese, koreans, arabs and others are very similar.
In defense of Armenians I would like to point out that many Khazars pose as Armenians, their features are more similar than Anglo-Saxons. Also, the "Russian Mafia" are Russian Khazars, so Russians sometimes get a bad rap too.

[philo beddoe]

The du Ponts helped to finance the Black Legion. The Black Legion was a Nazi style group supported by the du Ponts who were supporters of the Nazi movement in Germany and fanatical followers of the Third Reich. The organization was an American anti-socialist group that used violence against union leaders and union members. They have been implicated in the murder of several members of workers groups who were working in support of workers rights and benefits. The Black Legion was reported to have over 1.5 million members in the United States and was a group that was opposed to the FDR administration and was supposedly working to overthrow the administration. The Black Legion also had ties with the Ku Klux Klan, which was also a pro-Nazi group. The American Liberty League was another such organization.

For more on the Black Legion you can refer to the Federal Freedom of Information archives at:

http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/blackleg.htm

"This cult-type organization operated in the midwest in the 1930's supposedly to protect the country from various forms of "isms". Members wore black costumes with skull and crossbones insignia and were allegedly responsible for numerous murders."

[philo beddoe]

Charles Lindbergh was perhaps the most vocal and public supporter of the fascists, especially the Germans. Lindbergh was not so much a financial supporter of the Nazis, as he was a public advocate for allying with Germany to fight against Communism and promote White racial superiority. Lindbergh attended the Olympics as a guest of the Nazis and in 1938 he was given the Service Cross of the German Eagle while attending a dinner party in Berlin. He founded the America First Committee in 1940 to build opposition to FDR and FDR's support for American entry into the war in Europe.

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After American entry into World War II Lindbergh went to work for Henry Ford as an aircraft design consultant, and then went on to Japan to support American efforts in the Pacific. This was actually against the approval of the Roosevelt administration.

Henry Ford was an avowed anti-Semite, and significant contributor to the Nazi movement in Germany.

In 1920 Ford stated: "The international financiers are behind all war. They are what is called the International Jew -- German Jews, French Jews, English Jews, American Jews. I believe that in all these countries except our own the Jewish financier is supreme... Here, the Jew is a threat."

[philo beddoe]

The program of the German Workers' Party is limited as to period. The leaders have no intention, once the aims announced in it have been achieved, of setting up fresh ones, merely in order to increase the discontent of the masses artificially, and so ensure the continued existence of the Party.

1. We demand the union of all Germans to form a Great Germany on the basis of the right of the self-determination enjoyed by nations.

2. We demand equality of rights for the German People in its dealings with other nations, and abolition of the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the nourishment of our people and for settling our superfluous population.

4. None but members of the nation may be citizens of the State. None but those of German blood, whatever their creed, may be members of the nation. No Jew, therefore, may be a member of the nation.

5. Any one who is not a citizen of the State may live in Germany only as a guest and must be regarded as being subject to foreign laws.

6. The right of voting on the State's government and legislation is to be enjoyed by the citizen of the State alone. We demand therefore that all official appointments, of whatever kind, whether in the Reich, in the country, or in the smaller localities, shall be granted to citizens of the State alone.

We oppose the corrupting custom of Parliament of filling posts merely with a view to party considerations, and without reference to character or capability.

7. We demand that the State shall make it its first duty to promote the industry and livelihood of citizens of the State. If it is not possible to nourish the entire population of the State, foreign nationals (non-citizens of the State) must be excluded from the Reich.

8. All non-German immigration must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who entered Germany subsequent to August 2nd, 1914, shall be required forthwith to depart from the Reich.

9. All citizens of the State shall be equal as regards rights and duties.

10. It must be the first duty of each citizen of the State to work with his mind or with his body. The activities of the individual may not clash with the interests of the whole, but must proceed within the frame of the community and be for the general good.

We demand therefore:

11, Abolition of incomes unearned by work.

[philo beddoe]

ABOLITION OF THE THRALDOM OF INTEREST

12. In view of the enormous sacrifice of life and property demanded of a nation by every war, personal enrichment due to a war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. We demand therefore ruthless confiscation of all war gains,

13. We demand nationalisation of all businesses which have been up to the present formed into companies (Trusts).

14. We demand that the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out.

15. We demand extensive development of provision for old age.

16. We demand creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, immediate communalisation of wholesale business premises, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that extreme consideration shall be shown to all small purveyors to the State, district authorities and smaller localities.

17. We demand land-reform suitable to our national requirements, passing of a law for confiscation without compensation of land for communal purposes; abolition of interest on land loans, and prevention of all speculation in land.

18. We demand ruthless prosecution of those whose activities are injurious to the common interest. Sordid criminals against the nation, usurers, profiteers, etc. must be punished with death, whatever their creed or race.

19. We demand that the Roman Law, which serves the materialistic world order, shall be replaced by a legal system for all Germany.

20. With the aim of opening to every capable and industrious German the possibility of higher education and of thus obtaining advancement, the State must consider a thorough re-construction of our national system of education. The curriculum of all educational establishments must be brought into line with the requirements of practical life. Comprehension of the State idea (State sociology) must be the school objective, beginning with the first dawn of intelligence in the pupil. We demand development of the gifted children of poor parents, whatever their class or occupation, at the expense of the State.

21. The State must see to raising the standard of health in the nation by protecting mothers and infants, prohibiting child labour, increasing bodily efficiency by obligatory gymnastics and sports laid down by law, and by extensive support of clubs engaged in the bodily development of the young.

[philo beddoe]

22. We demand abolition of a paid army and formation of a national army.

23. We demand legal warfare against conscious political lying and its dissemination in the Press. In order to facilitate creation of a German national Press we demand:

(a) that all editors of newspapers and their assistants, employing the German language, must be members of the nation;

(b) that special permission from the State shall be necessary before non-German newspapers may appear. These are not necessarily printed in the German language;

(c) that non-Germans shall be prohibited by law from participating financially in or influencing German newspapers, and that the penalty for contravention of the law shall be suppression of any such newspaper, and immediate deportation of the non-German concerned in it.

It must be forbidden to publish papers which do not conduce to the national welfare. We demand legal prosecution of all tendencies in art and literature of a kind likely to disintegrate our life as a nation, and the suppression of institutions which militate against the requirements above-mentioned.

24. We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the moral feelings of the German race.

The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession. It combats the Jewish-materialist spirit within us and without us, and is convinced that our nation can only achieve permanent health from within on the principle:


THE COMMON INTEREST BEFORE SELF

25. That all the foregoing may be realised we demand the creation of a strong central power of the State. Unquestioned authority of the politically centralised Parliament over the entire Reich and its organisation; and formation of Chambers for classes and occupations for the purpose of carrying out the general laws promulgated by the Reich in the various States of the confederation.

The leaders of the Party swear to go straight forward — if necessary to sacrifice their lives — in securing fulfillment of the foregoing Points.

Munich, February 24th, 1920.

[JDRock]

........ :oo--> philo, give it a rest....youve given me over 40 smites and have still not answered hoarder or myself ON POINT.

...the only thing yuou have proven is that i said hitlers MOTHER was a shikelgruber, and you pointed out it was his fathers side that did the unwarrented, unreasonable name change :oo-->....now, lay off the smite button here, and give us a REASON why every single thing hitler did only worked to further joo interests, and kill white germans russians and americans....
AGAIN, the end result ALWAYS proves original intention.

go ahead , dont answer on point, just smite. :oo-->

[sirgonzo420]

........ :oo--> philo, give it a rest....youve given me over 40 smites and have still not answered hoarder or myself ON POINT.

...the only thing yuou have proven is that i said hitlers MOTHER was a shikelgruber, and you pointed out it was his fathers side that did the unwarrented, unreasonable name change :oo-->....now, lay off the smite button here, and give us a REASON why every single thing hitler did only worked to further joo interests, and kill white germans russians and americans....
AGAIN, the end result ALWAYS proves original intention.

go ahead , dont answer on point, just smite. :oo-->


Give the guy a break - he's defending his hero.

[philo beddoe]

........ :oo--> philo, give it a rest....youve given me over 40 smites and have still not answered hoarder or myself ON POINT.

...the only thing yuou have proven is that i said hitlers MOTHER was a shikelgruber, and you pointed out it was his fathers side that did the unwarrented, unreasonable name change :oo-->....now, lay off the smite button here, and give us a REASON why every single thing hitler did only worked to further joo interests, and kill white germans russians and americans....
AGAIN, the end result ALWAYS proves original intention.

go ahead , dont answer on point, just smite. :oo-->
ou know it's typical of a jew to demand proof while offering none. You prove something first..

[JDRock]

........ :oo--> philo, give it a rest....youve given me over 40 smites and have still not answered hoarder or myself ON POINT.

...the only thing yuou have proven is that i said hitlers MOTHER was a shikelgruber, and you pointed out it was his fathers side that did the unwarrented, unreasonable name change :oo-->....now, lay off the smite button here, and give us a REASON why every single thing hitler did only worked to further joo interests, and kill white germans russians and americans....
AGAIN, the end result ALWAYS proves original intention.

go ahead , dont answer on point, just smite. :oo-->


hahaaa he just logged on and gave me #83 hahahaaa

[JDRock]

........ :oo--> philo, give it a rest....youve given me over 40 smites and have still not answered hoarder or myself ON POINT.

...the only thing yuou have proven is that i said hitlers MOTHER was a shikelgruber, and you pointed out it was his fathers side that did the unwarrented, unreasonable name change :oo-->....now, lay off the smite button here, and give us a REASON why every single thing hitler did only worked to further joo interests, and kill white germans russians and americans....
AGAIN, the end result ALWAYS proves original intention.

go ahead , dont answer on point, just smite. :oo-->


Give the guy a break - he's defending his hero.


haaa gonz... HEIL SHIKELGRUBER!! :lol

[philo beddoe]

........ :oo--> philo, give it a rest....youve given me over 40 smites and have still not answered hoarder or myself ON POINT.

...the only thing yuou have proven is that i said hitlers MOTHER was a shikelgruber, and you pointed out it was his fathers side that did the unwarrented, unreasonable name change :oo-->....now, lay off the smite button here, and give us a REASON why every single thing hitler did only worked to further joo interests, and kill white germans russians and americans....
AGAIN, the end result ALWAYS proves original intention.

go ahead , dont answer on point, just smite. :oo-->


hahaaa he just logged on and gave me #83 hahahaaa
JD's really worried about smites? Shouldn't you be worried about using the bosses computer at work?

[steyr_m]

7) Hitler helped forever release UK's grip on Ireland



Until the Irish were bought out and joined the EU.

[wildcard]

I really hate it when people I'd like to consider friends are throwing mud at each other when they're debating. When they're debating people I don't like, well, then it's ok. ;D

[Book]

These nazi-lovers on this board are inbred fools.



GSUS members who disagree with optionT in this thread are "inbred fools". Brent was just banned for less.

:oo-->

[sirgonzo420]

........ :oo--> philo, give it a rest....youve given me over 40 smites and have still not answered hoarder or myself ON POINT.

...the only thing yuou have proven is that i said hitlers MOTHER was a shikelgruber, and you pointed out it was his fathers side that did the unwarrented, unreasonable name change :oo-->....now, lay off the smite button here, and give us a REASON why every single thing hitler did only worked to further joo interests, and kill white germans russians and americans....
AGAIN, the end result ALWAYS proves original intention.

go ahead , dont answer on point, just smite. :oo-->


Give the guy a break - he's defending his hero.


haaa gonz... HEIL SHIKELGRUBER!! :lol


Shikelgruber would've been a hilarious epithet.

"You're worse than Shikelgruber!"

lololol

[PatColo]

Dredging up this old thread purely based on the title, coz I just listened to this Michael Collins Piper podcast:


The Piper Report Jan 3, 2011

In the words of the inimitable Van Loman, "Nazis here! Nazis there! Nazis, nazis everywhere! Michael Collins Piper goes into the assinine logistics of those in the "patriot" movement who constantly harp on the Nazis as being the preeminent evil that all must fight while the real enemy goes undetected and unopposed.

Direct MP3 download (http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.com/mf/web/8bxf6q/MCP3JAN2011FIN.mp3)


It's about an hour, commercial free, good listen, MCP is an AJ-hater but that's beside the point (check his 2 former podcasts (http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.com) which are devoted to AJ-bashing)-- thing is MCP is emphatic that Hitler wasn't financed by Rothschild (start about 15:00), also that Hitler wasn't a zionist, and wasn't part joosh. You have to listen to the whole hour though to get the full context- he later spends much time on joodea's economic war on Germany. There are 18 reader comments right now, you can read them here:
http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.com/2011/01/03/the-piper-report-jan-3-2011/

[iOWNme]

Dredging up this old thread purely based on the title, coz I just listened to this Michael Collins Piper podcast:


The Piper Report Jan 3, 2011

In the words of the inimitable Van Loman, "Nazis here! Nazis there! Nazis, nazis everywhere! Michael Collins Piper goes into the assinine logistics of those in the "patriot" movement who constantly harp on the Nazis as being the preeminent evil that all must fight while the real enemy goes undetected and unopposed.

Direct MP3 download (http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.com/mf/web/8bxf6q/MCP3JAN2011FIN.mp3)


It's about an hour, commercial free, good listen, MCP is an AJ-hater but that's beside the point (check his 2 former podcasts (http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.com) which are devoted to AJ-bashing)-- thing is MCP is emphatic that Hitler wasn't financed by Rothschild (start about 15:00), also that Hitler wasn't a zionist, and wasn't part joosh. You have to listen to the whole hour though to get the full context- he later spends much time on joodea's economic war on Germany. There are 18 reader comments right now, you can read them here:
http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.com/2011/01/03/the-piper-report-jan-3-2011/


Thanks Pat, i have never heard of him, but i have listened to the Nazi one, and the first AJ one. Very good info, and a good amount of view points that are new to me, or different, which i like.

[hoarder]

Micheal Collins Piper is associated with American Free Press, which is no longer a trustworthy source. Ask Christopher Bollyn.

[PatColo]

Micheal Collins Piper is associated with American Free Press, which is no longer a trustworthy source. Ask Christopher Bollyn.


Yeah I saw the Bollyn piece on AFP, pretty damning at least about Mark Lane's past, buddy buddy with Jim Jones? Oh yeah and Bollyn says MCP's a homo, MCP says Bollyn's a fraud or some such. MCP was recently fired from RBN by Stadtmiller, whatever that means, but I'm guessing MCP being a drunk played some role at least. MCP is buddies with Mark Glenn. While I visit Glenn's site and listen to most of his podcasts, he also calls Bollyn a fraud, I figure mostly in sympathy with his friend MCP. It's funny, all these people are ostensibly staunch anti-zionists, yet they're at each other's throats, sad. There's gotta be a joo in there somewhere provocateuring.. ;)

here's Bollyn on AFP, MCP, Lane:

http://www.bollyn.com/public/Lane_in_Jonestown_cropped.JPG
Mark Lane (center), a Jewish Zionist lawyer and C.I.A. agent,
owns the Liberty Lobby, the parent organization of American
Free Press.


To understand why Michael Piper spends so much time slandering me, one need only understand that he works for Mark B. Lane, the Jewish Zionist lawyer who owns the assets of the Liberty Lobby and American Free Press. Lane is responsible for instigating the mass killing at Jonestown by increasing the level of fear in Jim Jones, seen here on the left shortly before he gave the order for the massacre. Lane is an old Army intelligence/C.I.A. agent who began his career in occupied Germany at the end of the war in 1945. Lane earned some $5 million in legal fees representing the Liberty Lobby, and when Willis Carto nearly bankrupted the lobby in 1993 Mark Lane had plenty of cash to take over its assets. Lane is the intelligence agent who gives Piper his marching orders and provides him with his license to lie. The whole thing is a C.I.A. disinformation and controlled opposition operation, very similar to the National Zeitung in Germany. For decades the erstwhile Spotlight had a monopoly on the so-called "patriot" press.

[hoarder]

I think many of these corrupt organizations hire people who are sincerely anti-zionist, but they are selected for their incompetence and kept on a leash.

[PatColo]

Probably getting far afield from this thread, but new MCP today,


The Piper Report Jan 5, 2011 (http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.com/2011/01/05/the-piper-report-jan-5-2011/)

Michael Collins Piper discusses the lunacy of those within the 'patriot' movement who think that by playing with words that somehow they will slip under the radar of Jewish interests.

note--due to the overwhelming interest this program has garnered in just a week's time, we have already burned through a month's worth of available bandwidth and had to upgrade to a more expensive plan. Anyone in the position to assist with the additional costs associated with this wins Hero of the year award.

I haven't listened yet but from the comments you'll find at the link above, sounds like he takes aim at DBS among other, look forward to renewed patriot wars! "DBS, are you going to let that MCP homo talk about you that way?!" ;D DBS is a drunk too but sounds like he's a binger, always straight when he makes audios. MCP OTOH often sounds a little lit to me... :oo-->

[Bigjon]

Daryl Bradford Smith takes issue with Michael Collins Piper.

And talks about a number of interesting issues, including economics and climate change.

http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Muhammad.Rafeeq/TFC.SMITH.rAFeeQ.mp3

[PatColo]

Daryl Bradford Smith takes issue with Michael Collins Piper.

And talks about a number of interesting issues, including economics and climate change.

http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Muhammad.Rafeeq/TFC.SMITH.rAFeeQ.mp3



Thanks, I've listened to both recent shows now, MCP's & DBS's, and they were mutually respectful of each other... from the MCP comments which I read first, I thought he'd have been attacking DBS; but that was just from a couple comments who seemed to dislike DBS. One ref'ed the 'Huffy/DBS tapes' which I believe refers to when DBS made some drunken phone calls to Huffy, cussing like a Marine, demanding that Huffy say whatever necessary to destroy Bollyn. Huffy was recording them, and posted them to his site. I can't decide who's the oddest duck amongst all these characters.