This is what a Hawaiian birth certificate from 1961 looks like

[I am me, I am free]

This woman was born one day after the alleged birth of the Kenyan monkeyboy (I assert he was spawned)

http://www.wnd.com/images/090802bc9.jpg

[iOWNme]

For comparison.....

http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/PROJECTS/Obama/Evidence/HIbirthCertObama.jpg

[Bullion_Bob]

Kinda amazing they had such high resolution laser printers in the 60's to print out that super tight font. Typewriters be damned, that thing is a masterpiece of a production for the 60's, let alone a birth certificate.

[Rebel Yarr]

Mine from the 70's looks just as crappy as the one in the first post.

[gunDriller]

This woman was born one day after the alleged birth of the Kenyan monkeyboy (I assert he was spawned)

http://www.wnd.com/images/090802bc9.jpg


that's what my birth certificate looks like.

i'm old enough to have watched originals of Gilligan's Island and the Three Stooges, also.

Isn't it something how modern Hawaii was in those days ? 8)

they couldn't be trying to pass that thing off as an original.

i think what happened was, Obama's political backers were aware of his non-native status, but they liked him for Senate. then they decided they wanted him for President, and with the arrogance typical of the Club, they just kind of steam-rollered over the rules with this ultra-modern birth certificate for a 50 year old man.

however, in terms of broken rules and things the US government doesn't want to talk about, Obama's non-native status is not such a big deal.

compared to the War in Iraq, Israel's continuing concentration camp in the desert for the people of Gaza - things that are actually killing people - Obama's birth certificate is not a big deal - relative to those other things.

we probably would have ended up with a President Hillary Clinton and, who knows, an Obama as Secretary of State, if the US Gov. had told the truth about Barack's birth place.

but Hillary would have continued using the US military to kill civilians in foreign lands, with terrible blowback for US troops.

i admit the Obama administration is a fraud on this issue, but i think the "sh*t going on" - the oil spill etc. - is a million times more important.

i'm not sure why they thought they had to lie to have Obama in office. maybe they liked the image of America portrayed by a President Obama. i.e., from a Madison Avenue "marketing America" point of view, they thought Brand Obama was better than Brand Hillary or Brand McCain. so they decided to steam-roller over the birth certificate issue and pretend Obama was born in Hawaii.

[palani]

Mine from the 70's looks just as crappy as the one in the first post.
Should you go back to Vital Records you shall receive as fancy a bond/certificate as the second example posted. All the states computerized and simply print out these birth certificates now. The use of them by the Commerce Department seems to be to monetarize debt. People who have tracked down these bonds find that they have misleading information associated with them that ties them to some commercial activity within a U.S. territory. It is an account, a debt.

[sirgonzo420]

Mine from the 70's looks just as crappy as the one in the first post.
Should you go back to Vital Records you shall receive as fancy a bond/certificate as the second example posted. All the states computerized and simply print out these birth certificates now. The use of them by the Commerce Department seems to be to monetarize debt. People who have tracked down these bonds find that they have misleading information associated with them that ties them to some commercial activity within a U.S. territory. It is an account, a debt.


I have heard this echoing around the internet for some time now, but never is it accompanied by proof.

[palani]

I have heard this echoing around the internet for some time now, but never is it accompanied by proof.
I agree. It is merely a theory. However, if you have the opportunity to view a graph of births in the U.S. and compare it to the growth of the monetary system/debt you might find a similarity in shape.

The use of the birth certificate as a document authorizing the creation of an account is reinforced by the use of the death certificate to close out that account. The name of the account (by coincidence) becomes the name the parents assigned to their infant with the date of birth being a sort of PIN number for access.

Should these birth certificates be assigned a value and bought and sold (through the U.S. Dept of Commerce) then of interest might be the entity that has purchased and holds Steve Dunham's original document (aka holder in due course).

[MAGNES]

That looks like microfiche or whatever you call it, all negatives basically
saved physically, I remember them from library research. So basically
a hard copy in your hand would be a certified piece of paper of that
with maybe a pressed seal on it and signed with ink maybe too.

[MAGNES]

Should you go back to Vital Records you shall receive as fancy a bond/certificate as the second example posted. All the states computerized and simply print out these birth certificates now.


I don't think you have a clue.
That is not a birth certificate and
has been created and discredited,
promoted on Obama sites do dumb
sheep and even the MSM has had it
on as real and it is a joke does not
even pass the smell test, shows they
think that everyone is stupid.

[palani]

I don't think you have a clue.
Have I made any claims along those lines?

[Bullion_Bob]

In the bottom left it says "OHSM 1.1 (Rev. 11/01) LASER"

So I guess that means it's a laser printout from November 2001?

I doubt anything from 1963 would indicate "laser" unless it was in a movie about space aliens.

[TPTB]

My actual Birth Certificate was issued by the Hospital I was born in and it was signed by the Dr. and witnessed by a Nurse or Administrator and has an attractive official looking gold leafed stamp as well as my tiny newborn baby foot prints.

However, according to the government, that document is not valid, even though the document specifically states it is to be used as proof of my birth and location therein.

Anyway, in order to apply for a Passport even as far back as the late 80's, I had to contact my State of birth and pay to have them send me an ugly black microfiche copy which looks exactly like the op's. The key word is COPY.

I never worried much about the Obama Birth Certificate because I figured the laser printed copy was just a more modern variant of the State copy. Rather than the old fashion microfiche, it was just printed out via computer on official looking paper.

If it has an official State seal on it and if it was issued and signed by the State and it isn't contesting the document as a fake, then the State of Hawaii is either complicit in a criminal cover up... or it's an official copy.

[iOWNme]

Everyone can calm down now. I have located the original. It is one of these 2:

http://barack-sucks.org/images/obama-birth-cert-real.jpg

http://www.sott.net/image/image/s1/24984/full/Obama_20birth_20cert.jpg


Anyone else think that while we decide if he is legit or not, Rome is burning while the sheep dance around the flames?