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Large Sarge
15th June 2010, 03:29 AM
Submitted by Taylor Cottam of EconomyPolitics.com (for Zero Hedge's previous analysis on Libor fixings by bank, indicating WestLB's outlier status, click here)


Banking Crisis: Europe Banks the next to fail en masse

European banks are in a freefall similar to what happened to US banks. We saw this coming months ago when I wrote in a blog post about the state of US, Europe and Canadian Banks. I said that of the three, I worried most about the European banks because asset prices had not fallen like they had in the states, and that the debt level of German and UK banks could precipitate another crisis. There are some very concerning things happening now in European Banks.

The market is disounting them as practically insolvent. And even worse, there is some real problems with what is happening in state insured banks like West LB which has been bailed out and is state owned. It would be the same if the markets charged Fannie Mae the subprime borrowing rates they deserve. Fannie Mae's cost of funds is below any private bank simply because they are considered part of the treasury. In fact, because it is guaranteed, if their borrowing costs were too high, one could buy Fannie Mae bonds, sell gov't bonds and make a risk free spread.

Well, that is exactly what is happening at West LB. "WestLB AG, the German state-owned lender bailed out during the financial crisis, is among banks paying the most to borrow for three months in euros, dollars and pounds, according to data from the British Bankers’ Association." So one could technically buy short term debt from West LB and Sell German bonds for a risk free return. Its a no brainer... or is it?

It could be just a technical phenomenon, i.e. collateral damage, or the market is spooked that either the gov't is not going to honor its guarantee. The third and most scary possibility is that the Sovereign debt crisis is going to suck Germany in whole. While I would not subscribe to that theory, it is enough to make one wonder. The leverage on Germany's banks would make any American bank blush, and if there were banks to fall under pressure, they would likely not be able survive with such debt loads.

More on European debt via Bloomberg:

European banks at risk of writedowns from the sovereign debt crisis face a funding squeeze that may depress earnings, curb lending and imperil economic recovery in the region.

Investors are shunning bank securities on concern Greek, Portuguese and Spanish bonds held by the lenders will plunge in value. Bank bond sales slowed in May to the lowest since Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.’s failure in 2008 as the extra yield buyers demand to hold the securities over government debt soared to the highest this year. Firms are wary of lending to each other, depositing record funds with the European Central Bank.

The cost of insuring bank debt from default rose close to a record last week. The Markit iTraxx Financial Index of swaps on 25 European banks and insurers climbed to 208 basis points on June 8, approaching the all-time high of 210 basis points set in March 2009, JPMorgan Chase & Co. prices show.

Liquid
15th June 2010, 07:00 AM
What's your take on this and how it affects us in the US?

This seems like a big deal to me. If a major banking crisis collapse happens throughout Europe, the Euro, becomes a 'hot potato'. No country wants to be holding it, it truly becomes a game of musical chairs...

Since multiple countries are on the Euro, if one dumps the currency, it will topple like the house of cards all currencies are.

This can't end good.

Horn
15th June 2010, 07:52 AM
Central Banks around the world are in collusion with each other, the losses will be spread crossed it like peanut butter. Of course this tends to gum the gears up. The amount of bad peanuts they each receive is based on their seat at the royal totem.

When London, its pound sterling & libor have no seat at the carving table it will be time to jump ship to the SDR.

Dollar Libor Climbs to 11-Month High After Greek Rating Cut


By Keith Jenkins

June 15 (Bloomberg) -- The rate banks say they pay for three-month dollar loans rose to an eleven-month high after Moody’s Investors Service lowered Greece’s debt rating to junk, boosting concern financial companies hold too much securities from Europe’s most indebted nations.

The London interbank offered rate, or Libor, for such loans rose to 0.539 percent today from 0.537 percent yesterday, according to data from the British Bankers’ Association. That’s the highest level since July 6. Moody’s cut Greece’s rating to Ba1 from A3 yesterday, citing “substantial” risks to economic growth from the austerity measures tied to a 110 billion-euro ($135 billion) aid package from the European Union and the International Monetary Fund.

“It’s a marginal increase,” said David Keeble, head of fixed-income strategy at Credit Agricole Corporate & Investment Bank in London. “The Greek downgrade had some influence as it heightened risk aversion.”

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-15/dollar-libor-climbs-to-11-month-high-after-greek-rating-cut.html

Glass
15th June 2010, 08:05 AM
The interesting thing about the Euro is that each country issues their own Euros. There is no central bank issuing currency. So German Euros' are different to French ones and other EU countries. So, as I understand it the Europeans are valuing different country Euro's differently. German euro's are the most preferred AFAIK.

synbi
18th June 2010, 01:35 PM
The interesting thing about the Euro is that each country issues their own Euros. There is no central bank issuing currency. So German Euros' are different to French ones and other EU countries. So, as I understand it the Europeans are valuing different country Euro's differently. German euro's are the most preferred AFAIK.


The ECB controls the overall monetary policy in the EU, sets the interest rates etc. Member states do get to issue their own euro coins and notes and commemorative coins too sometimes, but those are made to be used for circulation. What the member states' central banks get to print out in form of physical coins and notes isn't anything compared to the amount of digital euros in existance.

German euros more preferred, how come? All that's different to them compared to any other euro's is the picture on the other side of the coin.

uranian
18th June 2010, 03:25 PM
rising interbank rates preceded phase 1 of the crash, IIRC:

http://www.stockmarketsreview.com/pics/news/Northern%20trust_2.JPG

uranian
18th June 2010, 03:37 PM
coupla charts; LIBOR started to rise dramatically mid september 2008; crash really got underway a couple of weeks later.