Data released by EPA confirms lindsey williams

[Large Sarge]

not a big AJ fan, once in awhile he posts something useful

http://www.infowars.com/may-levels-of-toxic-gases-in-gulf-back-up-claim-made-by-lindsey-williams/

[Large Sarge]

Health Effects of Hydrogen Sulfide

H2S is classed as a chemical asphyxiant, similar to carbon monoxide and cyanide gases. It inhibits cellular respiration and uptake of oxygen, causing biochemical suffocation. Typical exposure symptoms include:

L
O
W 0 – 10 ppm Irritation of the eyes, nose and throat
M
O
D 10 – 50 ppm Headache
Dizziness
Nausea and vomiting
Coughing and breathing difficulty
H
I
G
H 50 – 200 ppm Severe respratory tract irritation
Eye irritation / acute conjunctivitis
Shock
Convulsions
Coma
Death in severe cases

Prolonged exposures at lower levels can lead to bronchitis, pneumonia, migraine headaches, pulmonary

[Large Sarge]

50 - 200 ppm will cause death

and they got levels over a 1000

there were reports in that E-mail I got from John Kaminski, that at least 3 fishermen had already died from exposure, and it was being suppressed.

I do not think that is to hard to believe, looking at these numbers

[Large Sarge]

50 - 200 ppm will cause death

and they got levels over a 1000

there were reports in that E-mail I got from John Kaminski, that at least 3 fishermen had already died from exposure, and it was being suppressed.

I do not think that is to hard to believe, looking at these numbers




edit

I see its ppb (parts per billion) and ppm (parts per million)

so the toxicty at the on shore monitoring is not "death level yet"

[Awoke]

Bombshell expose'. The real reason the oil still flows into the Gulf of Mexico. (http://www.blogster.com/joannemor/bombshell-expose-the-real-reason-the-oil-still-flows-into-the-gulf-of-mexico)
Added: Sunday, May 30th 2010 at 10:48am by JoAnneMor
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As you know, the Deep Water Horizon has exploded in the Gulf of Mexico. It has been spewing oil from a ruptured wellpipe for over a month.

BP and the US Government has said they are trying everything possible to stop that multi million gallon oil from continuing to flow into the Gulf.

I am about to dispute that claim and offer an expose' as to why that story about them doing everything possible is a lie and a profitable enterprise to those who would make money from this disaster.

The Top Kill method was started and suspended several times. It was being attempted only half heartedly. The reason is, there is no money to be made with a solution that simple.

The real money is in the use of dispersants.

There is a company called NALCO. They make water purification systems and chemical dispersants.

NALCO is based in Chicago with subsidiaries in Brazil, Russia, India, China and Indonesia.

NALCO is associated with UChicago Argonne program. UChicago Argonne received $164 million dollars in stimulus funds this past year. UChicago Argonne just added two new executives to their roster. One from NALCO. The other from the Ill. Dept of Educaution.

If you dig a little deeper you will find NALCO is also associated with Warren Buffett, Maurice Strong, Al Gore, Soros, Apollo, Blackstone, Goldman Sachs, Hathaway Berkshire.

Warren Buffet /Hathaway Berkshire increased their holdings in NALCO just last November. (Timing is everything).

The dispersant chemical is known as Corexit. What it does is hold the oil below the water's surface. It is supposed to break up the spill into smaller pools. It is toxic and banned in Europe.

NALCO says they are using older and newer versions of Corexit in the Gulf.. (Why would you need a newer version, if the old one was fine?)

There is big money and even bigger players in this scam. While they are letting the oil blow wide open into the Gulf, the stakes and profit rise.

The Dolphins, Whales, Manatees, Sea Turtles and fish suffocate and die. The coastal regions, salt marshes, tourist attractions and the shore front properties are being destroyed, possibly permanently.The air quality is diminished. The Gulf of Mexico fishing industry is decimated.

All to create a need for their expensive and extremely profitable poison.

Some friends and I have compiled extensive articles and reports to support this claim.

Thank you:

Sir_Templar. He brought this to our attention and hs supplied links and articles.

Spongedocks. She tirelessly searched through mountains of information & supplied valuable links & resources..

Bobbi85710 She has contributed links articles and uncovered the Stimulus funds.

The Research:

'This is NALCO:

http://www.nalco.com/index.htm

Goldman Sachs was part of a three-pronged group that purchased NALCO:

http://bit.ly/8Z3Ai6

Buffett’s Bet On Water, NALCO (NLC is trade code):

http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle/articleid/3095068

'Blackstone, Apollo and Goldman Sachs to acquire Ondeo NALCO' (COREXIT 9500):

http://bit.ly/bVHQkR

The Milken Institute - Leon Black of Apollo Management LLC (i.e. NALCO): http://bit.ly/vJLz

BP plc, Citigroup Inc., Goldman Sachs, NALCO Holding Co., Halliburton Co:

http://yhoo.it/amEhiS

The Chicago, NALCO, Arab, Blago, Rezko Connection:

http://bit.ly/d88x31

Obama's Economic Adviser Buffet,= Berkshire Hathaway Inc - NALCO Holding Co:

http://bit.ly/ati3AL

NALCO and the China Connection:

http://bit.ly/daKYmk

'NALCO eyes doubling of sales in China:

http://bit.ly/bi7BZw

Berkshire the second-largest shareholder in NALCO:

http://bit.ly/cvHDAl

Company Profile 'NALCO Holding Co:

http://bit.ly/9qeTkd

'96 "partnerships with enviro products thru 2010"! Attendees: Gore M. Strong & NALCO:

http://is.gd/ctV7p

Gore/Strong EPA Conference '96:

http://is.gd/ctVfN

BP Embraces Exxon’s Toxic Dispersant


SOURCE:
http://www.blogster.com/joannemor/bombshell-expose-the-real-reason-the-oil-still-flows-into-the-gulf-of-mexico

[Large Sarge]

50 - 200 ppm will cause death

and they got levels over a 1000

there were reports in that E-mail I got from John Kaminski, that at least 3 fishermen had already died from exposure, and it was being suppressed.

I do not think that is to hard to believe, looking at these numbers




edit

I see its ppb (parts per billion) and ppm (parts per million)

so the toxicty at the on shore monitoring is not "death level yet"




re edit

On May 14 WWLTV in New Orleans ran a report on the levels of Hydrogen Sulfide and Benzene in the air at that time. 5-10 parts per billion is the established allowable amount for Hydrogen Sulfide. WWLTV reported that on May 3 the level was recorded at 1,192 ppb. Pastor Williams said his sources report the level detected in the Gulf at 1,200 ppb and the amount poses a serious and even fatal health risk.

it is a fatal health risk

[mamboni]

Transcript:


Lindsay Williams:

"Let me state emphatically, what I'm going to tell you has never been heard before. I urge your listeners, get a pen and paper and take notes....order my DVDs.....this is catastrophic like never before. Now, I will tell you the shocking truth about it. But, don't forget to order my DVDs which have all this information plus much more that I will not divulge here. This is really big - huge. I will now tell you about this. OK, I hope you're listening carefully - I hope you're getting everything I tell you. What you will hear will startle you and shock you. My source assures you that it is all true. Now, here is what I'm going to say. But first, get a pen and paper and take notes....order my DVDs.....this is catastrophic like never before...."

[Large Sarge]

Transcript:


Lindsay Williams:

"Let me state emphatically, what I'm going to tell you has never been heard before. I urge your listeners, get a pen and paper and take notes....order my DVDs.....this is catastrophic like never before. Now, I will tell you the shocking truth about it. But, don't forget to order my DVDs which have all this information plus much more that I will not divulge here. This is really big - huge. I will now tell you about this. OK, I hope you're listening carefully - I hope you're getting everything I tell you. What you will hear will startle you and shock you. My source assures you that it is all true. Now, here is what I'm going to say. But first, get a pen and paper and take notes....order my DVDs.....this is catastrophic like never before...."


yes, he has that southern preacher thing going on

"i am begging you folks..."

funny

but I think he is pretty correct on this

the gases are deadly, like carbon monoxide, just asphyxiates the body.

carbon monoxide is the silent killer

[DMac]

50 - 200 ppm will cause death

and they got levels over a 1000

there were reports in that E-mail I got from John Kaminski, that at least 3 fishermen had already died from exposure, and it was being suppressed.

I do not think that is to hard to believe, looking at these numbers




edit

I see its ppb (parts per billion) and ppm (parts per million)

so the toxicty at the on shore monitoring is not "death level yet"






Exactly. Infowhores again pushing an alarmist agenda. Not that the bad is air is not a serious issue! But they make it sound as if we are entering the death stage.

Here is a good reply to the AJ article:


patrioticTRUTH Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 4:00 am

This is being misunderstood. Lindsey and others are giving the readings in PPB (Parts Per Billion) and the official Exposure Limits are given in PPM (Parts Per Million). To convert PPM to PPB you must multiply the PPM number by 1,000. I am a Hazmat Tech and am holding a NIOSH Chemical Hazards Guide in my hands at this very moment. This is what it states on the Exposure Limit of H2S (Hydrogen Sulfide):
NIOSH REL (Recommended Exposure Limit): C 10 PPM [10-minute]
OSHA PEL (Permissible Exposure Limit): C 20 PPM / 50 PPM [10-minute maximum peak]
*NOTICE THESE VALUES ARE IN PPM (PARTS PER MILLION)!

It says above that the concentration threshold for people to experience physical symptoms from hydrogen sulfide is about 5 to 10 parts per “billion”- THAT IS INCORRECT! It should state 5 to 10 parts per MILLION!

Now if we convert the 5 to 10 parts per MILLION to parts per BILLION we get an Exposure Limit for Hydrogen Sulfide of 5,000 to 10,000 PPM! The readings taken according to Lindsey were as follows:
Hydrogen Sulfide: 1,200 PPB
Benzene: 3,000 PPB
Methylene Chloride: 3,000 to 3,400 PPB

Here are the actual TRUE Permissable Exposure Limits BEFORE AND AFTER CONVERTING:
Hydrogen Sulfide: 20ppm= 20,000 PPB
Benzene: Time Weighted Average: 1ppm (Short Term: 5ppm)= 1,000 PPB / (ST: 5,000 PPB)
Methylene Chloride: Time Weighted Average: 25ppm= 25,000 PPB

I thought the values Lindsey gave was much worse at first until I actually looked myself. Dont get me wrong, its still not good at all… but people won’t be dropping dead like some of you are thinking. I hope this clears things up just a bit

Over prolonged periods people are going to get sick from this. Some are going to die. And I think it will get worse over time.



Listen to the last line on this news broadcast regarding the air quality, from a chemist performing independent analysis of the air quality in the area:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGxGVGiD3yk

(paraphrasing)"Its of concern that if people understand the health impacts, that if they should start to experience impacts to their health they should take precautions to leave the area."

This really is 911 part 2.

[mamboni]

Cumulative exposure to hydrogen sulfide and carbon monoxide is not harmful at the levels reported - it's more of an irritant. But the benzene levels are alarming. The potential cumulative exposure in the population is huge as benzene is a carcinogen and mutagen, and probably a teratogen. In a few years, we may see leukemia rates skyrocketing in populations along the gulf states.

[SLV^GLD]

You have to have an impressive vocabulary to hit me with a new word but teratogen did it, today!

[Large Sarge]

I guess the thing that is most worrying, is that the levels on all these substances will continue to rise.

1. multiple holes in the ocean floor
2. dispersant causing a lot of oil to remain submerged
3. hurricanes bringing a lot of the oil and chemicals onshore

others?

the oil slick continues to grow, and so will the levels of these chemicals.

we are at 1.2 ppm now, in open air, remember most of these scenarios were done by OSHA/EPA, etc in a workplace environment (office, warehouse, manufacturing facility, etc)

and were set at 10 minute doseages.

no one ever imagined you would be walking around breathing these things 24/7

what will the levels be like a month from now???

[DMac]

What will the levels be come October?

[Glass]

What will the levels be come October?


Or December or.... it's worrying to think it could go on that long. This could be the death of the oceans. Could it release that much to be globally devastating? It sounds like it could from what we are hearing and seeing.