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I am me, I am free
15th June 2010, 11:36 AM
"The perfect storm catastrophe of catastrophes" aka the mother of all catastrophes is about to happen

Some hyperbole involved, as well as some speculation I suppose.

Jump to 39:35

http://vaca.bayradio.com/ksfo_archives/ksfo_player.php?day=1&hour=23

DMac
15th June 2010, 11:49 AM
Listening in now.

In case some folks don't have the multi-spill cam link, here ya go

http://spillcam.110mb.com/

DMac
15th June 2010, 12:00 PM
Tsunami. I drew a diagram to my GF last night to explain how this can happen and how the mud data must be made public - at least to quench the speculation of the public, at worst to prepare for a potential tsunami which....well as I said to her last night, the worst of the worst case scenarios puts this disaster at classification level "Biblical".

Libertytree
15th June 2010, 12:06 PM
I agree with ya DMac, the thing is though, is that even the non biblical events going on with this situation are still life altering and potentially fatal. IMO, this IS TSHTF, at least for those on the gulf and in Florida.

DMac
15th June 2010, 12:09 PM
I agree with ya DMac, the thing is though, is that even the non biblical events going on with this situation are still life altering and potentially fatal. IMO, this IS TSHTF, at least for those on the gulf and in Florida.


IMO, this IS TSHTF, at least for those on the gulf and in Florida.

My folks live in Florida. In about 10 days when I see them next I plan on having a very serious sit down with my dad and get his mind prepped that he might have to vacate their Florida house.

Luckily, about 2 months ago, mom was talking about selling out down there anyhow. I'm pretty concerned for them considering they are not young, and the least worrisome issue (the air quality) is still a really serious problem!

crazychicken
15th June 2010, 04:29 PM
I agree with ya DMac, the thing is though, is that even the non biblical events going on with this situation are still life altering and potentially fatal. IMO, this IS TSHTF, at least for those on the gulf and in Florida.


I have a house on Golf and Sea Blvd in Appollo Beach, Florida.

Probably won't be vacationing there any time soon/anymore.

CC

Defender
15th June 2010, 04:30 PM
"The perfect storm catastrophe of catastrophes" aka the mother of all catastrophes is about to happen

Some hyperbole involved, as well as some speculation I suppose.

Jump to 39:35

http://vaca.bayradio.com/ksfo_archives/ksfo_player.php?day=1&hour=23
What's this hyporbole & speculation all about? I can't watch this at work.

Libertytree
15th June 2010, 05:00 PM
I agree with ya DMac, the thing is though, is that even the non biblical events going on with this situation are still life altering and potentially fatal. IMO, this IS TSHTF, at least for those on the gulf and in Florida.


I have a house on Golf and Sea Blvd in Appollo Beach, Florida.

Probably won't be vacationing there any time soon/anymore.

CC


When were ya gonna visit CC? You do have a window of opportunity.

k-os
15th June 2010, 06:56 PM
"The perfect storm catastrophe of catastrophes" aka the mother of all catastrophes is about to happen

Some hyperbole involved, as well as some speculation I suppose.

Jump to 39:35

http://vaca.bayradio.com/ksfo_archives/ksfo_player.php?day=1&hour=23
What's this hyporbole & speculation all about? I can't watch this at work.


It's audio, but it's scary stuff talking about how it's a giant gas bubble many miles wide, a few miles long and tens of feet deep (watch out, I am paraphrasing, and I have the memory of someone many times my age) . . . and the gas bubble is going to pop. After it pops the gas will suffocate a load of Floridians, and then it gets worse. A tsunami takes out Florida all together, which isn't hard, since it's so flat.

Good stuff. I eat doom for breakfast.

jaybone
16th June 2010, 05:12 AM
"The perfect storm catastrophe of catastrophes" aka the mother of all catastrophes is about to happen

Some hyperbole involved, as well as some speculation I suppose.

Jump to 39:35

http://vaca.bayradio.com/ksfo_archives/ksfo_player.php?day=1&hour=23
What's this hyporbole & speculation all about? I can't watch this at work.



Giant explosive earth fart a mile underwater.
If it comes to the surface all at once, as in a collapse of the sea floor, then it will make a hell of a wave. Then whatever gas is in the earth fart could very well be toxic and/or explosive.
Florida is flat, a tsunami would scour it clean from the gulf to the atlantic.

Libertytree
16th June 2010, 06:35 AM
I might very well be wrong but wouldn't this constitute a double tsunami? One, when the bubble erupts and the second by the force of the sea bed collapse.

crazychicken
16th June 2010, 06:49 AM
When were ya gonna visit CC? You do have a window of opportunity.
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We are pretty busy during the summer here. If everything is still standing after hay and fall roundup I'll probably be there.

Hope everything is OK for you guys and everyone there.

CC

Libertytree
16th June 2010, 09:44 AM
As this pertains to what may be in the "bubble", I thought I'd post it here. This is a snip from a posting at another board/private post, sorry no link. Just passing info.

Heard from a colleague in the know (PhD in Chemistry). I asked if she knew what the chemical composition of the material spewing from the well was and if she didn’t know, who does? She stated that the Coast Guard knows; the EPA, the CDC and the APHL (Association of Public Health Laboratories) ‘have no idea.’ She attended a meeting about this very subject yesterday; the Coast Guard is being very tight-lipped about it and not releasing any info. She and her team will do more digging. I mentioned that we knew that hydrogen sulfide (H2S), benzene (C6H6), and dichloromethane (CH2CL2) were in the mix and she verified that; it’s what else is in there that we don’t know.

She also verified our claim that the dispersant, Corexit 9500, is causing even more damage due to its toxicity; it’s hurting the situation rather than helping.

Quixote2
16th June 2010, 10:19 AM
From the oildrum, very long, very scary entry on what is happening:
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6593/648967

also read the oildrum comments

crazychicken
16th June 2010, 05:33 PM
Go to Google videos and search the movie CRACK IN THE WORLD with Dana Andrews from 1965.

Very interesting.

CC

Libertytree
16th June 2010, 05:35 PM
I have only heard it mentioned one time, but the New Madrid fault line starts about the place where they drilled the well. So not only will Florida be water logged, the southern states will fumed and the states along the fault line will be leveled!

What is that old saying "three times a charm"?


"The scenario I've heard about concerning nuking it is that it is very close to the New Madrid fault line and the possibility exists that a nuke could trigger one hell of an earthquake, running from the mouth of the Miss. River up through Missouri, then east to Maine." Me: Nuke option thread

PatColo
16th June 2010, 06:45 PM
I have only heard it mentioned one time, but the New Madrid fault line starts about the place where they drilled the well. So not only will Florida be water logged, the southern states will fumed and the states along the fault line will be leveled!

What is that old saying "three times a charm"?


"The scenario I've heard about concerning nuking it is that it is very close to the New Madrid fault line and the possibility exists that a nuke could trigger one hell of an earthquake, running from the mouth of the Miss. River up through Missouri, then east to Maine." Me: Nuke option thread


Sounds a little like what A. C. Griffith was saying in this radio show,
http://www.veritasshow.com/veritasplayer.html
(Select Episode 80.2: A.C. Griffith and hit PLAY on the player)
...something about a fault causing the Great Lakes to empty into the Mississippi, putting everything along it under water..

keehah
16th June 2010, 10:55 PM
Glad to see you warmed up to it Patcolo. :)
I recall also this is the GIM Veritas.

While a Madrid fault crack doomsday scenario has merit, and could lead to bad short term shaking, the process would take time for it to change great lake's drainage. I expect we would have several (or more) ice ages before things got that advanced.

Here is what Mike has to say about things. He is 'just' talking of response to unstoppable leak though, not our Madrid tin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWjB9I_f8aQ

Quixote2
16th June 2010, 11:29 PM
A contrary opinion on the long term impact:
http://www.aei.org/outlook/100965

striped_bear
17th June 2010, 01:20 AM
Hoagland is full of shit, imo.

I didn't watch the video the OP posted, but this is the guy who claims there are giant shattered glass domes on the moon that NASA is trying to keep secret.

Likely a disinfo agent, he has been interviewed several times by Project Camelot (that says it all imo).

Quixote2
17th June 2010, 09:57 AM
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/matt-simmons-retires-chairman-emeritus-simmons-co#comment-418025

If oil covers 40% of gulf, how high is the slick?

1,600,000 km^2 = surface area of gulf according to wikipedia

76,316,000 gallon = total oil spilled by June 16, 2010

76,316,000 gallon * 0.00378541178 m^3/gallon = 288,890 m^3 (cubic meters of oil spilled so far)

1,600,000 km^2 * ( 1,000 m/km )^2 * 0.40 = 6.4000e+011 m^2 (40% surface area of gulf)

288,890 m^3 / 6.4000e+011 m^2 = 4.5139e-007 m (height of oil slick if covered 40% of gulf)




How much oil would need to spill to create a 1 mm thick slick covering 40% of gulf?

1 mm * (1 m / 1,000 mm) * 6.4000e+011 m^2 * ( 0.00378541178 m^3/gallon )^-1 = 1.6907e+011 gallon

So 1,690,700,000 gallon/day for 100 days, or about 700 times more oil than the current official high estimate of 2,500,000 gallon/day.