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madfranks
17th June 2010, 08:30 AM
New book from the Mises Institute, Lincoln Unmasked (http://mises.org/store/Product.aspx?ProductId=324&utm_source=Homepage&utm_medium=FeaturedProd&utm_term=Widget&utm_campaign=Featured_Widget). I don't know how many of you are familiar with DiLorenzo's earlier book, The Real Lincoln, but this is it's successor. For those of you who don't know the true despotism that Lincoln represented, this is a must-read.
DiLorenzo discusses how the Lincoln cult came into being and came to dominate national politics--and how completely far from the truth they have strayed. They have buried the reality of who he was and what he did in the service of a mythical civic ethos that celebrates devotion to the central state above all else.
DMac
17th June 2010, 08:57 AM
I've been of the opinion for about 2 years now that Lincoln was America's first Fascist president. Thanks for the tip madfranks, I look forward to reading this one!
Gaillo
17th June 2010, 12:51 PM
Abraham Lincoln - America's Stalin.
Worst president EVER... so of course, in schools they tell us he was the best! ::)
MetalsMan
17th June 2010, 12:58 PM
He's the one that made everyone a SLAVE to the System.
Or was did Franklin Delano Rosenfeldt (FDR) do that?
Anyway...
I read an article on the Net that said "Lincoln's" real name
was something like "Springstein" or "Springsteen"
Not sure if it's true. Google it! :o
iOWNme
17th June 2010, 01:13 PM
General Orders No. 100 : The Lieber Code (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/lieber.asp)
General Orders No. 100 by President Lincoln, 24 April 1863.
Martial Law - Military jurisdiction - Military necessity - Retaliation
Article 1.
A place, district, or country occupied by an enemy stands, in consequence of the occupation, under the Martial Law of the invading or occupying army, whether any proclamation declaring Martial Law, or any public warning to the inhabitants, has been issued or not. Martial Law is the immediate and direct effect and consequence of occupation or conquest.
The presence of a hostile army proclaims its Martial Law.
Art. 2.
Martial Law does not cease during the hostile occupation, except by special proclamation, ordered by the commander in chief; or by special mention in the treaty of peace concluding the war, when the occupation of a place or territory continues beyond the conclusion of peace as one of the conditions of the same.
Art. 3.
Martial Law in a hostile country consists in the suspension, by the occupying military authority, of the criminal and civil law, and of the domestic administration and government in the occupied place or territory, and in the substitution of military rule and force for the same, as well as in the dictation of general laws, as far as military necessity requires this suspension, substitution, or dictation.
The commander of the forces may proclaim that the administration of all civil and penal law shall continue either wholly or in part, as in times of peace, unless otherwise ordered by the military authority.
Art. 4.
Martial Law is simply military authority exercised in accordance with the laws and usages of war. Military oppression is not Martial Law: it is the abuse of the power which that law confers. As Martial Law is executed by military force, it is incumbent upon those who administer it to be strictly guided by the principles of justice, honor, and humanity - virtues adorning a soldier even more than other men, for the very reason that he possesses the power of his arms against the unarmed.
Art. 5.
Martial Law should be less stringent in places and countries fully occupied and fairly conquered. Much greater severity may be exercised in places or regions where actual hostilities exist, or are expected and must be prepared for. Its most complete sway is allowed - even in the commander's own country - when face to face with the enemy, because of the absolute necessities of the case, and of the paramount duty to defend the country against invasion.
To save the country is paramount to all other considerations.
Art. 6.
All civil and penal law shall continue to take its usual course in the enemy's places and territories under Martial Law, unless interrupted or stopped by order of the occupying military power; but all the functions of the hostile government - legislative executive, or administrative - whether of a general, provincial, or local character, cease under Martial Law, or continue only with the sanction, or, if deemed necessary, the participation of the occupier or invader.
Art. 7.
Martial Law extends to property, and to persons, whether they are subjects of the enemy or aliens to that government.
Art. 8.
Consuls, among American and European nations, are not diplomatic agents. Nevertheless, their offices and persons will be subjected to Martial Law in cases of urgent necessity only: their property and business are not exempted. Any delinquency they commit against the established military rule may be punished as in the case of any other inhabitant, and such punishment furnishes no reasonable ground for international complaint.
Thats only section 1.
JDRock
17th June 2010, 01:46 PM
.......and he brought america the graduated income tax....for more on the fraud, just read his WHOLE speech on the war, how in NO way did he believe in = among blks and whts....
you guys are right , the lincoln revered by history didnt exist.
DMac
17th June 2010, 01:49 PM
.......and he brought america the graduated income tax....for more on the fraud, just read his WHOLE speech on the war, how in NO way did he believe in = among blks and whts....
you guys are right , the lincoln revered by history didnt exist.
No kidding. Lincoln the white supremacist:
"I am not now, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social or political equality of the white and black races. I am not now nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor of intermarriages with white people. There is a physical difference between the white and the black races which will forever forbid the two races living together on social or political equality. There must be a position of superior and inferior, and I am in favor of assigning the superior position to the white man."
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Source: Abraham Lincoln said this in a speech he delivered to the people of Charleston, Illinois in 1858.
Worst. President. Ever.
Must be why 0bummer likes him so much.
madfranks
17th June 2010, 02:28 PM
The emancipation proclamation was issued in 1862, more than a year after the war had already been going on. It was simply a war tactic to try to get an uprising from the slaves in the south because the Union was afraid they were going to lose. It wasn't about setting slaves free, it was about fostering a revolt in the South. The emancipation proclamation didn't set a single slave free in the North, it only applied to the Southern States, where Lincoln's jurisdiction no longer applied after the secession.
Many people don't know that as a Lawyer in Illinois, Lincoln supported laws that made it illegal for blacks to move into their state. As president, he called for meetings with black leaders in Africa to try and start a mass exodus of blacks out of America. Whether or not you agree with Lincoln's racial policies, he did not care about setting slaves free or about black people in any manner. The real cause for the war was Lincoln's oppressive economic plundering of the South. I have an Aunt whose ancestors were Civil War vets, she still has an audio tape of her grandmother, before she died, telling us that it was the Tariffs that caused the war.
iOWNme
17th June 2010, 02:38 PM
The emancipation proclamation was issued in 1862, more than a year after the war had already been going on. It was simply a war tactic to try to get an uprising from the slaves in the south because the Union was afraid they were going to lose. It wasn't about setting slaves free, it was about fostering a revolt in the South. The emancipation proclamation didn't set a single slave free in the North, it only applied to the Southern States, where Lincoln's jurisdiction no longer applied after the secession.
Many people don't know that as a Lawyer in Illinois, Lincoln supported laws that made it illegal for blacks to move into their state. As president, he called for meetings with black leaders in Africa to try and start a mass exodus of blacks out of America. Whether or not you agree with Lincoln's racial policies, he did not care about setting slaves free or about black people in any manner. The real cause for the war was Lincoln's oppressive economic plundering of the South. I have an Aunt whose ancestors were Civil War vets, she still has an audio tape of her grandmother, before she died, telling us that it was the Tariffs that caused the war.
Would be amazing if you could get that tape and upload it.....
DMac
17th June 2010, 02:39 PM
telling us that it was the Tariffs that caused the war.
My research into the civil war places the blame almost entirely on the tariffs imposed by northern bankers on the south.
Bobthetomato
17th June 2010, 02:47 PM
The emancipation proclamation didn't set a single slave free in the North, it only applied to the Southern States, where Lincoln's jurisdiction no longer applied after the secession.
Not only did he not free the slaves in the north but it also did nothing to free slaves in the Union occupied sections of the south.
madfranks
17th June 2010, 03:31 PM
The emancipation proclamation was issued in 1862, more than a year after the war had already been going on. It was simply a war tactic to try to get an uprising from the slaves in the south because the Union was afraid they were going to lose. It wasn't about setting slaves free, it was about fostering a revolt in the South. The emancipation proclamation didn't set a single slave free in the North, it only applied to the Southern States, where Lincoln's jurisdiction no longer applied after the secession.
Many people don't know that as a Lawyer in Illinois, Lincoln supported laws that made it illegal for blacks to move into their state. As president, he called for meetings with black leaders in Africa to try and start a mass exodus of blacks out of America. Whether or not you agree with Lincoln's racial policies, he did not care about setting slaves free or about black people in any manner. The real cause for the war was Lincoln's oppressive economic plundering of the South. I have an Aunt whose ancestors were Civil War vets, she still has an audio tape of her grandmother, before she died, telling us that it was the Tariffs that caused the war.
Would be amazing if you could get that tape and upload it.....
I would love to be able to do that - if I can I'll make sure to post it here.
Desolation LineTrimmer
18th June 2010, 09:02 AM
I read the book. It's okay. Be prepared to read Dilorenzo play the race card against Lincoln with the relish of a more-pc-than-thou freeper attacking Robert Byrd.
Quantum
18th June 2010, 12:33 PM
Abraham Lincoln - America's Stalin.
Worst president EVER... so of course, in schools they tell us he was the best! ::)
WITHOUT A DOUBT!
DIShonest Abe!
ABC did a great job in the '80s miniseries "Amerika," by linking Lincoln and Lenin:
http://www.atlasgeo.net/fotw/images/f/fic_amrk1.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZy6SDrdyOM
TheNocturnalEgyptian
18th June 2010, 12:59 PM
Lincoln had good and bad qualities but there is a LOT of generally unspoken history regarding his era, especially including financial and economic factors which most people allow to be eclipsed by slavery/social justice issues.
Libertarian_Guard
20th June 2010, 09:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbOE4Ip7In0
Buddha
20th June 2010, 10:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbOE4Ip7In0
Great vid! and my own opinion just reiterates what has been already said. the emancipation of the slaves was merely a war tactic that struck at the production abilities of the south. lincoln was no great abolitionist/race sympathizer as children are taught in schools and as we hear on the history channel. Shit, he wanted to send them back to africa. Not to mention that he brought the modern federal government into being.
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