Why, Really, was the USS Liberty attacked by Israel?

[Bullfrog]

A lot of you probably already knew this stuff, but there was info that was news to me. Is a good read by a reporter named Alan Hart that was embedded with the Israeli army.

This is the 'war' which gave the Israeli's the reputation of being some elite fighting force. This article proves that is just one more lie.

I will pull a couple of quotes, the whole article is pretty good reading with a lot of historical value.

Click-n-Read (http://www.politicaltheatrics.net/2010/06/why-really-was-the-uss-liberty-attacked-by-israel/)


> In an interview published in Le Monde on 28 February 1968, Israeli Chief of Staff Rabin said: “I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions which he sent into Sinai on 14 May would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it.”

> On 14 April 1971, a report in the Israeli newspaper Al-Hamishmar contained the following statement by Mordecai Bentov, a member of the wartime national government. “The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail and exaggerated a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territory.”

> In the spring of 1972, General Peled, Chief of Logistical Command during the war and one of 12 members of Israel’s General Staff, addressed a political literary club in Tel Aviv. He said: “The thesis according to which the danger of genocide hung over us in June 1967, and according to which Israel was fighting for her very physical survival, was nothing but a bluff which was born and bred after the war.” In a radio debate Peled said: “Israel was never in real danger and there was no evidence that Egypt had any intention of attacking Israel.” He added, “Israeli intelligence knew that Egypt was not prepared for war.”

> In 1982, Prime Minister Begin, arguably the world’s most successful terrorist leader, went even further. He said : “In June 1967 we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us, We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”



The Syrian leadership took Nasser’s advice and announced its acceptance of the cease-fire. It came into effect at 0520 hours the following morning, Friday 9 June. So far as the Arabs and the organised international community represented by the UN were concerned, the war was over…. Six hours and ten minutes later, the IDF invaded Syria. Dayan had postponed the attack to allow for the redeployment of IDF units from Sinai – a redeployment that might not have been possible, Dayan had believed, if the Liberty was allowed to go on listening to IDF movement orders.

[MAGNES]

You are not going to find the answer in one article or even book.

The Liberty was a NSA ship, think about that one for a bit and
what it means, despite strong US Israeli support, the US tries
to manipulate and use Israel their way, they didn't want it too
independent, anyone reading some history in this area knows
this, Kissenger with Nixon didn't even give it unconditional
support, it was not like it is now with Bush and Obama, even
Clinton's white house was more hard line and they got him
good for that, and his white house was all ZOG.

False flag on a US Intelligence ship, sorry, for all my reading
that does not add up, they can do easier false flags.

And as far as sinking, that is not how they sink ships.
There are better and faster ways to sink a ship.
Strafing ain't one of them.

I am no friend of Israel and their behavior, you all know that.

Israel and Jews did 9/11.

The NSA ship was doing business, NSA business, no jews allowed in
that club, even Madsen who outed many stories way ahead of media,
former NSA, great on NeoCons outing criminals, not partisan, openly
anti Israel now, see his site, talks of how Israel and the NeoCons still
were working on making moves on NSA and taking it over, US intell
agencies spy on each other, I didn't understand that in 1990's,
but now I do, NSA has goods on ZOG, that includes CIA.

That NSA ship had information on what Israel was doing, damaging
information that could be used to further US interests greater than
Israeli interests. 2 things are most likely, 1 that Israel was executing
prisoners and civilians even in Egypt, the US support Egypt, 2 that
the ship easily reading "battle order", key information in warfare,
and maybe passing it along to some Arabs to "give Israel a bloody nose",
Kissenger, not to destroy it, just get them listening to US more.
Those are the 2 main things that may have happened by key intell
people studying this, this is their speculation, and makes most sense.
Israel knew of 1 or 2 through their own interceptions or insiders in
White House, and may have saw 2 as an act of war, which explains
total silence even though so many involved, other false flags have
very few involved, even patsies are clueless.

You don't attack and NSA RECON ship and get away with it.

Israel even the USA plant bombs and get caught, CIA got outed
in Lebanon killing civilians, an NSA ship, no way. Israel knew they
could get away with attacking it and black mail the top.

And they sent a message, "we will fight."

[I am me, I am free]

And as far as sinking, that is not how they sink ships.

Torpedoes sink ships very effectively, and if all the torpedoes fired at the USS Liberty had found their mark, then surely it would have sunk. Add in machinegunning the lifeboats and it all adds up to 'leave no survivors' - as in dead men tell no tales.

[MAGNES]

And as far as sinking, that is not how they sink ships.

Torpedoes sink ships very effectively, and if all the torpedoes fired at the USS Liberty had found their mark, then surely it would have sunk. Add in machinegunning the lifeboats and it all adds up to 'leave no survivors' - as in dead men tell no tales.


The ship was a sitting duck for that, those are excuses you just gave.

We are splitting hairs here about Liberty when we agree it happened
and lots of criminality and deceit and blackmail either way you slice it.

I read about that more than 15 years ago and everything I read
since then which is a lot has not changed what could of happened, how,
details, etc .

But think about your point, they are that useless, maybe. LOL

[I am me, I am free]

And as far as sinking, that is not how they sink ships.

Torpedoes sink ships very effectively, and if all the torpedoes fired at the USS Liberty had found their mark, then surely it would have sunk. Add in machinegunning the lifeboats and it all adds up to 'leave no survivors' - as in dead men tell no tales.


The ship was a sitting duck for that, those are excuses you just gave.

We are splitting hairs here about Liberty when we agree it happened
and lots of criminality and deceit and blackmail either way you slice it.

I read about that more than 15 years ago and everything I read
since then which is a lot has not changed what could of happened, how,
details, etc .

But think about your point, they are that useless, maybe. LOL


IMO, the three reasons the Israeli-rats didn't sink the USS Liberty - they're inept cowards, the courageous guidance of a fine and brave crew by Capt. McConeagle, and the hand of God.

[Bullfrog]

I cut and pasted the title of the thread from the article.

It's enough for me, to know that the attack was not an accident. I'm not so much concerned about the reasons behind the attack.

[MAGNES]

I cut and pasted the title of the thread from the article.

It's enough for me, to know that the attack was not an accident. I'm not so much concerned about the reasons behind the attack.


There is no doubt it was a deliberate attack, they knew exactly what
they were attacking, and there is no doubt that they had control
of the situation knowing that from the beginning, they would get
away with it, so these two things are all you really need for people
to understand the criminality and control both ways, nothing is
black and white, Israel never had total control of the USA and you
can see it evolve into this over the last two decades, even over
Bush, Bush screwed them in the end, did not attack Iran and gave
almost no pardons, they owned him though, Gates/Baker/Scowcroft,
the old guard came in to save his bacon here, on Iran especially,
some of it has to do with being too blatant and forward, the NeoCons
got heat for this by their own, the CFR, even though they are all Rockefeller
programs/creations/actions, they do this slowly to not awaken the masses.

[MAGNES]

IMO, the three reasons the Israeli-rats didn't sink the USS Liberty - they're inept cowards, the courageous guidance of a fine and brave crew by Capt. McConeagle, and the hand of God.


Well I don't disagree with you, they can press buttons easily,
I think they suck as fighters from everything I see and read.

Some of the pics from the flotilla attack are telling.
"special forces" , lol, more like specially handicapped mentally.

[tekrunner]

Not trying to derail the thread but Magnes, would you please describe the coin and quote underneath a bit more? Is that quote what it says on the coin and where did it come from? Thanks