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Serpo
23rd June 2010, 11:16 PM
Methane in Gulf "astonishingly high": U.S. scientist
Julie Steenhuysen
CHICAGO
Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:58pm EDT
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CHICAGO (Reuters) - As much as 1 million times the normal level of methane gas has been found in some regions near the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, enough to potentially deplete oxygen and create a dead zone, U.S. scientists said on Tuesday.



Texas A&M University oceanography professor John Kessler, just back from a 10-day research expedition near the BP Plc oil spill in the gulf, says methane gas levels in some areas are "astonishingly high."

Kessler's crew took measurements of both surface and deep water within a 5-mile (8 kilometer) radius of BP's broken wellhead.

"There is an incredible amount of methane in there," Kessler told reporters in a telephone briefing.

In some areas, the crew of 12 scientists found concentrations that were 100,000 times higher than normal.

"We saw them approach a million times above background concentrations" in some areas, Kessler said.

The scientists were looking for signs that the methane gas had depleted levels of oxygen dissolved in the water needed to sustain marine life.

"At some locations, we saw depletions of up to 30 percent of oxygen based on its natural concentration in the waters. At other places, we saw no depletion of oxygen in the waters. We need to determine why that is," he told the briefing.

Methane occurs naturally in sea water, but high concentrations can encourage the growth of microbes that gobble up oxygen needed by marine life.

Kessler said oxygen depletions have not reached a critical level yet, but the oil is still spilling into the Gulf, now at a rate of as much as 60,000 barrels a day, according to U.S. government estimates.

"What is it going to look like two months down the road, six months down the road, two years down the road?" he asked.

Methane, a natural gas, dissolves in seawater and some scientists think measuring methane could give a more accurate picture of the extent of the oil spill.

Kessler said his team has taken those measurements, and is hoping to have an estimate soon.

"Give us about a week and we should have some preliminary numbers on that," he said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65L6IA20100622

PatColo
24th June 2010, 05:17 AM
History Channel Mega Disasters - Methane Explosion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25BE42PzZZc

Awoke
24th June 2010, 05:19 AM
Methane in Gulf "astonishingly high": U.S. scientist


Gee, really?

;)

Ares
24th June 2010, 05:34 AM
Methane in Gulf "astonishingly high": U.S. scientist


Gee, really?

;)


It really is sad that they paid that much to obtain a PhD to state the obvious.

StackerKen
24th June 2010, 09:39 AM
Methane in Gulf "astonishingly high": U.S. scientist


Gee, really?

;)


It really is sad that they paid that much to obtain a PhD to state the obvious.


yeah wow...

wonder where its coming from?

DMac
24th June 2010, 09:44 AM
Methane in Gulf "astonishingly high": U.S. scientist




Gee, really?

;)


It really is sad that they paid that much to obtain a PhD to state the obvious.


yeah wow...

wonder where its coming from?


Manatee farts.

StackerKen
24th June 2010, 09:52 AM
LOL ! :D

Twisted Titan
24th June 2010, 10:01 AM
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Serpo
24th June 2010, 11:43 AM
Thats funny..................

The thing is though it dissolves in sea water.........

SLV^GLD
24th June 2010, 12:15 PM
Food for thought:

They omitted what the standard expectation for background levels are.

If background levels are .00000000000000000000000000000000000000001% and it has increased a million fold do you really have a dangerous level of methane?

I'm not saying the reporting is fear-mongering it's just they throw these big numbers around to make it sound just awful but we have no basis by which to determine what this multiplier actually means.

The 30% Oxygen depletion is significant because dissolved Oxygen numbers are commonly known and understood by a variety of different people.

Saul Mine
24th June 2010, 02:50 PM
The 30% Oxygen depletion is significant because dissolved Oxygen numbers are commonly known and understood by a variety of different people.


Water typically contains 20% dissolved oxygen. So what exactly would a 30% depletion be?

sunshine05
24th June 2010, 03:29 PM
Bio

Dr. Kessler is a chemical oceanographer who focuses on isotope biogeochemistry to eluciade how gases in the ocean cycle and ultimately participate in global climate change. He is particularly interested in oceanic methane which, due to the dynamic nature and massive size of the relatively unexplored oceanic methane system, has the potential for feedbacks with climate.

He seems to be a "global warming" guy.

Awoke
24th June 2010, 07:48 PM
Food for thought:

They omitted what the standard expectation for background levels are.

If background levels are .00000000000000000000000000000000000000001% and it has increased a million fold do you really have a dangerous level of methane?

I'm not saying the reporting is fear-mongering it's just they throw these big numbers around to make it sound just awful but we have no basis by which to determine what this multiplier actually means.

The 30% Oxygen depletion is significant because dissolved Oxygen numbers are commonly known and understood by a variety of different people.


Good post, and good points.



Water typically contains 20% dissolved oxygen. So what exactly would a 30% depletion be?


Sounds like it would be roughly 30% of the normal content which is typically 20% to me...

SLV^GLD
25th June 2010, 05:35 PM
If starting value is 20% and that is reduced by 30% then the remaining value is 14%.

Bear in mind dissolved gas volume is dependent on temperature and surface area.

I do not know why bubbling methane through water will necessarily deplete the oxygen level. The methane must displace the oxygen containing air at the surface which is where gas exchange occurs. In order to significantly deplete dissolved oxygen a proportionately significant amount of methane must be maintained at the surface.
Bear in mind that methane bubbling up from the bottom would create it's own surfaces for transpiration but would not necessarily deplete the oxygen already dissolved. The oxygen consuming lifeforms do that.
I may be ignorant of some reaction with the methane below the surface that binds the oxygen thereby depleting its availability despite the presence of fresh air at the surface. I do believe methane is acidic and dissolving it in the water will change its pH which also has a bearing on the liquid's capacity to accept more oxygen but I don't know much in that aspect.

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