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tekrunner
25th June 2010, 12:12 PM
http://www.henrymakow.com/titanic-hindenburg_two_psy-ops.html


by "Watchdog"
(for henrymakow.com)

The sinking of the world's fastest ship on her maiden voyage in 1912; and the spectacular fireball and "explosion" of the giant German airship in 1937. Could these two events be related? Each tragedy serves as a distinct marker; the beginning and ending of an era in which transatlantic passenger transportation underwent a colossal transformation.

In August of 2005, two independent divers, using the Russian-built deep water MIR submarines, found two new parts of the bottom of the hull of Titanic separate from the hull and stern at the bottom of the Atlantic. That means that this great unsinkable ship, which hardly nudged an iceberg, somehow broke itself into four pieces before leaving the surface of the ocean. Maybe it's time to consider the possibility of foul play?

Were both the Titanic and Hindenburg part of a plan to convert the world's means of passenger transportation from safe and luxurious ships to cramped, noisy and extremely dangerous aviation aircraft that use huge amounts of petroleum fuel? During this era, a conversion of cheaper and alternate fuels, used formerly in steamships, to the high octane fuels, used by the emerging passenger aircraft industry was accomplished, resulting in profits beyond measure.

The period from July 31, 1908 when Joseph Ismay signed the order to have the Titanic built until March 26, 1939 when transatlantic passenger travel via fixed wing aircraft was inaugurated, is the era of Titanburg.

During World War One, huge investments were made in the manufacture of aircraft engines which allowed the Illuminati bankers to stipulate that all aircraft engines use petroleum as the sole source of fuel. The final coup de grace: Burn the Hindenburg to give the world a reason to forget all about airships (as they consume much less fuel). And so petroleum, which had sold for pennies per barrel at the turn of the century was soon to be marketed at 100 times the cost.

Today we still use petroleum (kerosene called jet fuel) in all of our aircraft even though it burns and explodes, yet we have been sold the idea that hydrogen is so dangerous that it can't be used.

TITANIC CONTRADICTIONS

New steamships had to be broken in during their maiden voyage. They were not able to make good speed during their first two days out. So the idea that Titanic tried to set a speed record on her maiden voyage doesn't make sense. In fact, she was way behind a Cunard liner, which had more horsepower anyway.

Firsthand reports and testimonies in hearings held shortly after the disaster indicated that if the ship struck the iceberg at all, it continued to slip on past the iceberg. There certainly was no jolt. Shortly thereafter a disastrous leak was found that indicated five watertight compartments had been breached. Two hours and forty minutes later, the great ship pivoted until it pointed straight down toward the bow, and then slipped beneath the water. This was the testimony of the first officer of Titanic in a US court of Inquiry which was held days after the tragedy.

It never made sense to me that a seasoned captain such as Capt. Smith would have gone storming through an ice field. Then, there was the lack of a real collision with the iceberg itself, yet the damage done was so extreme, or was it? All the testimonies given in both the United States and later Great Britain board of Inquiries reveal that not one passenger was sure s/he felt a collision.

Today, we have the benefit of more information about this tragedy. First, in 1982 the two Russian-made Mir submersible submarines came into being, and by 1985 the Titanic wreck had been located and filmed. The wreck of the Titanic was in two pieces.

In 2005, another expedition organized by two American divers, Chatterton and Kohler, found two never-before-seen large sections. They were nearly a mile away from the forward and rear pieces of the hull! These large sections span the bottom of the ship from port to starboard, through both the inner and outer hulls.

Each piece is over thirty feet in length and the width of the beam of the ship which is 92 feet. That these new pieces came loose from the main hull of Titanic at the surface. They could not possibly have come off from the force of the Titanic hitting the ocean floor. They are too far from the hull and stern!

We now have to explain a ship that hardly touched an iceberg yet is in four pieces on the bottom of the ocean!

Keep in mind, these sections are from the very bottom of the Titanic and represent hundreds of tons of steel. Each near-rectangular section is made out of 1" thick steel plate, top and bottom (two separate layers 1" thick) separated by the athwart-ship ribs that are five feet in height. In other words, there was a space of five feet between the inner and outer hulls of the bottom of the Titanic, and both are 1" thick plate steel.

Both of these are sheared through right along the edge of the ribs, all the way across the bottom from port to starboard!! So we have two double hulled hollow sections, each about 30 feet by 92 feet, enough area lost in the hull to send it down in moments! Is it not time for an honest re-evaluation of the facts?

Perhaps the Titanic did not strike an iceberg after all? We know from the original eye witness testimonies that Titanic continued moving through the water as it went by the iceberg. The story is that 300 feet of steel suffered a gash 3/4 " wide, and that this was caused by the tearing action of the iceberg. No tool made of ice is strong enough to cut 300 feet of 1 inch steel. This is the size of the wound that would have been necessary, calculated to 12 square feet of leak area in order for the ship to sink in only 2 hours and 20 minutes. Now, spread this out along five watertight sections and you begin to see the near impossible job the ice cutting tool is asked to do in this scenario.

The only way it could have ripped the bottom out is if Titanic rode up on the ice, and that would have sent cups and saucers flying all over the place. It is a steel ship and thus rigid from keel to deck. But nobody felt it because Titanic missed the iceberg and slipped by.

If you watch or read earlier versions of the disaster there was no prior mention of the stern breaking off. The doomed ship rising out of the water which sends the stern crashing down as it breaks at the deck is a recent development and likely a scramble to cover the fact that this vessel was sent to the bottom from a large underwater explosion.

From my personal evaluation I would say that the only way to accomplish this amount of cutting would be by using charges pre-set in the bilge space along the top and bottom ribs. This would require six lines of charges from port to starboard, each 92 feet long. That's how many shear "cuts" had to be accomplished in the bottom of the Titanic, from one side of the ship to the other in order to produce completely separated blown-out sections of the hull.

If this in fact happened, it would mean that somebody planned the murder of over a thousand people.

CONCLUSION

With both the Titanic and the Hindenburg, the agenda was to break the human spirit, much like the devastation in the Gulf of Mexico today.

In the case of the Titanic there was much drama about this ship's luxurious accommodations--beyond any ship that had formerly been built. It was not only going to be the biggest but also virtually unsinkable. The seas were to be fully tamed once and for all. Steerage accommodations included cabins and community kitchens, entertainment and eating areas.

In the case of the Hindenburg the world was captivated with the vision of future travel by dirigibles, which had gone from war machines during WW1 to the safest form of travel by far. One of them flew over the North Pole in 1926. The Graf Zeppelin cirmcum-navigated the globe in 1929. They were the answer to global travel after sea travel had been deemed dangerous by the tragedy of the Titanic.

In both cases the sudden turn of events from ecstasy to heartbreak was mercilessly plastered across every form of media. In the case of the Hindenburg, there were 22 professional photographers present to record the event, and five of them used newsreel. Not one of them recorded the actual event of the explosion, but they did show charred bodies engulfed in flames walking their final steps toward the cameras before collapsing. Ladies were said to have fainted while watching newsreels in their neighborhood movie theaters. Sound like trauma brainwashing?

There were five ships in the area within hours of the Titanic distress call, one of them came to a stop and watched the entire event. The name of this vessel was the Californian, the Captain's name was Lord. His ship witnessed the entire event and did not respond even though the Titanic was firing white flares. The ship's captain testified he saw them but thought the ship was unsinkable.

Both of these heartbreaking tragedies set the stage for World Wars. The message came down, "no, the world is not going to deliver your dreams." This was the media-promoted reality: the failure of human technology to overcome large obstacles, and then the failure in governments and economies to overcome disasters and stop wars. Sound familiar?

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Reference--"Titanic's Last Secrets," by Brad Matsen, Titanic Publishing LLC, C. 2005



I thought this was quite interesting. Sounds feasible too. What do you guys think?

keehah
25th June 2010, 12:20 PM
No explosion needed on the Titanic (and no evidence of it), just a trend of Titanic negligence on the scale of BP in the GOM.


Anyone seen the ending of Southland Tales?
A missile fired from an ice cream truck flies over a burning US Bank building and into a Tesla alt-energy blimp. :o

http://www.birdseyetourist.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/us_bank_tower.jpg

Bigjon
25th June 2010, 12:53 PM
The news media decides what is evidence. From what you say there is no evidence of explosions on 9/11 either.



No explosion needed on the Titanic (and no evidence of it), just a trend of Titanic negligence on the scale of BP in the GOM.


Anyone seen the ending of Southland Tales?
A missile fired from an ice cream truck flies over a burning US Bank building and into a Tesla alt-energy blimp. :o

http://www.birdseyetourist.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/us_bank_tower.jpg

Ash_Williams
25th June 2010, 12:55 PM
Were both the Titanic and Hindenburg part of a plan to convert the world's means of passenger transportation from safe and luxurious ships to cramped, noisy and extremely dangerous aviation aircraft that use huge amounts of petroleum fuel? During this era, a conversion of cheaper and alternate fuels, used formerly in steamships, to the high octane fuels, used by the emerging passenger aircraft industry was accomplished, resulting in profits beyond measure.

Awesome...

Serpo
25th June 2010, 02:10 PM
This is a titanic find if true,

keehah
13th June 2011, 02:42 PM
http://www.planepictures.net/a/104/73/1306705540_TN.jpg
http://www.spiegel.de/images/image-224753-galleryV9-sbfg.jpgSpielgel: Blimp Accident in Germany; Pilot Dies as Airship Bursts Into Flames (http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,768163,00.html)

06/13/2011

The pilot of an airship died when the craft burst into flames as he was trying to land at an airfield in Germany on Sunday. The three passengers managed to jump to safety and were unhurt.


An airship burst into flames and fell out of the sky in Germany on Sunday evening, killing the pilot, but the three passengers managed to leap to safety and were unhurt, police said.

The blimp, part of an advertising campaign for the Goodyear tire company, was about to land at an airfield in Reichelsheim in western Germany when fire broke out in both engines, according to media reports.

Bild newspaper reported that the pilot, an Australian, called out to the passengers: "We're having a crash!" and told them to jump out of the cabin, which was hovering just 2 meters (6.6 feet) above the ground at the time. As soon as they had hurled themselves to safety, the airship soared rapidly to a height of around 50 meters, possibly due to the sudden loss of weight in the cabin, making it impossible for the pilot to escape, eyewitnesses said.

The blimp then became engulfed in flames and fell back to the ground in a ball of fire. The passengers were a press photographer and a TV crew who had been on a two-and-a-half-hour round trip to get aerial shots of a public festival.

Media reports said there had been a smell of fuel aboard the airship for some time during the trip. Police said air crash investigators had been called in to determine the cause of the accident.

Meanwhile, in local news June4: http://www.bclocalnews.com/vancouver_island_central/nanaimonewsbulletin/news/123176283.html

the opening of the show...she thought the plane was close to the ground to be doing flips and twists, but thought the plane’s actions were part of the show right up until the crash.

“It didn’t nose-dive into the ground, it just flew into ground,” she said. “Everyone was horrified. It was tough to see the expression on the children’s faces. That was definitely the worst.”..

Riddy said the pilot is an experienced, well-known performer whose airmanship is second to none, and age would not have played a factor in Saturday’s crash.

“He’s a rock-solid performer,” she said.

The air show was cancelled following the crash and Riddy said the spectators were patient and understanding during the ordeal.

Serpo
13th June 2011, 04:53 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7dbi4_the-titanic-conspiracy_news

Gaillo
13th June 2011, 04:56 PM
Something always struck me as "fishy" (puns intended :)) about the Titanic wreck.
Wasn't there a billionaire industrialist guy who had tickets and cancelled at the last minute? Almost as if he was tipped off? My memory is a bit hazy on the details, but that's what I remember reading somewhere...

keehah
22nd June 2011, 01:55 AM
Three's a charm.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13853548

21 June 2011

A demonstration A380 superjumbo has been taken out of the Paris Air Show after it struck a building at Le Bourguet airport during taxiing.

The world's largest jetliner, with a wingspan of almost 80m, had been due to take part in a demonstration flight.

Reuters: PR setback for Airbus as Boeing displays new stretch 747-8 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/21/airshow-a380-repair-idUSLDE75K13020110621)

The stricken test plane limped out of Le Bourget with its damaged wingtip as dusk fell on Monday, taking off from a commercial runway unseen from industry chalets and well after most of the 140,000 visitors had left for the day, an airport source said.

Awoke
22nd June 2011, 05:20 AM
That is an interesting article. Thanks for posting it. I had never given the titanic story a second thought, but after reading the article I must say that I wouldn't be surprised to find out it was an inside job.

iOWNme
22nd June 2011, 05:49 AM
The Bob Tuskin Radio Show: The Titanic Disaster Was An Inside Job (05/19/2011)




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3mnavo9yEY