Corexit is eating through boats in the Gulf

[Large Sarge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLvNqlVNMh0

[SLV^GLD]

*Did not watch video*

There may be crap in the water eating the hulls of boats and that crap may be coming up from the bottom of the gulf but I'm not buying that the offending compound is Corexit 9500. Don't get me wrong. Corexit is nasty, nasty stuff but it is not in a class of compounds capable of dissolving fiberglass or metal. This much can be gathered from the MSDS.

[gunDriller]

*Did not watch video*

There may be crap in the water eating the hulls of boats and that crap may be coming up from the bottom of the gulf but I'm not buying that the offending compound is Corexit 9500. Don't get me wrong. Corexit is nasty, nasty stuff but it is not in a class of compounds capable of dissolving fiberglass or metal. This much can be gathered from the MSDS.


i'm willing to be flexible. if they manage to convey to the general public that the Dispersant is poisonous, enough to make the public concerned enough to ask their many government officials why they're letting BP put this poison in the Gulf, i can live with a mistake in the reporting.

[uranian]

The proprietary composition is not public, but the manufacturer's own safety data sheet on Corexit EC9527A (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corexit#Composition) says the main components are 2-butoxyethanol and a proprietary organic sulfonate with a small concentration of propylene glycol.


2-Butoxyethanol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-butoxyethanol) is a solvent in paints and surface coatings...


2-Butoxy Ethanol (http://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/0275.pdf) is a colorless liquid with a mild odor. It is used as a solvent for resins, lacquers, varnishes, and enamels...

[TPTB]

The proprietary composition is not public, but the manufacturer's own safety data sheet on Corexit EC9527A (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corexit#Composition) says the main components are 2-butoxyethanol and a proprietary organic sulfonate with a small concentration of propylene glycol.


2-Butoxyethanol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-butoxyethanol) is a solvent in paints and surface coatings...


2-Butoxy Ethanol (http://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/0275.pdf) is a colorless liquid with a mild odor. It is used as a solvent for resins, lacquers, varnishes, and enamels...


Now that's some good information, uranium. Thanks.

[wildcard]

The good news is, the waters of the gulf we be usable as heating fuel this winter.

[TPTB]

The good news is, the waters of the gulf we be usable as heating fuel this winter.


No way! Corexit would eat right through the fire box and rust it out within days. ::)

[SLV^GLD]

Does the video try to say that some paint is coming off the boats or that holes are being eaten through the hulls? There's a big damned difference between the two.

[Large Sarge]

Does the video try to say that some paint is coming off the boats or that holes are being eaten through the hulls? There's a big damned difference between the two.


at what point does watching a 4 minute video become "worth it to you"??

instead of asking others to do your analysis and observations for you...

Sheesh....

there is a picture around the 4 minute mark, of a boat coming in, it has holes eaten into it, I have no idea the depth of the holes

[TPTB]

Does the video try to say that some paint is coming off the boats or that holes are being eaten through the hulls? There's a big damned difference between the two.


The video doesn't "say" squat. Near the end of a montage of clips, it shows a steel V- hulled boat with huge rust holes in the bow above the water line for 2 second tops.

Any connection to the dispersant known as Corexit is merely implied without any analysis whatsoever. None. Zip.

My guess is the boat being shown had been wet docked and almost never used for years, but then thrown into service due to the oil catastrophe and after a short time pounding through rough water, the hull paint peeled away showing the rust damage that had been concealed by the paint.

It may be possible, although rather unlikely that the Butoxyethylene solvent helped soften the paint, but it had nothing whatsoever to do with the rust.

[Large Sarge]

Does the video try to say that some paint is coming off the boats or that holes are being eaten through the hulls? There's a big damned difference between the two.


The video doesn't "say" squat. Near the end of a montage of clips, it shows a steel V- hulled boat with huge rust holes in the bow above the water line for 2 second tops.

Any connection to the dispersant known as Corexit is merely implied without any analysis whatsoever. None. Zip.

My guess is the boat being shown had been wet docked and almost never used for years, but then thrown into service due to the oil catastrophe and after a short time pounding through rough water, the hull paint peeled away showing the rust damage that had been concealed by the paint.

It may be possible, although rather unlikely that the Butoxyethylene solvent helped soften the paint, but it had nothing whatsoever to do with the rust.






all speculation above

No one would notice that their ships hull was losing paint, getting holes, etc until they actually took the boat out of the water.

also, no boat owner would ever just "paint over a rust spot"

sanding, repairing, etc

unless you want to see the thing sink at sea

boats are made primarily of fiberglass, aluminum, etc very very rarely steel (unless you are talking big transports, military)

something is eating into the boats.

[SLV^GLD]

Thank you, TPTB, for the summary. Some of us can take some time at work to read a post and respond but we can't be watching video clips, sucking up company bandwidth that may or may not be proxied through a home connection to avoid the nanny-wall thereby making throughput insanely slow; not to mention the fact that videos require SOUND that doesn't go over well in the workplace. Additionally, many times certain members browse on a mobile device and there again videos are not conducive to a timely and bearable experience.

Note that I pointed out lots of caustic stuff could be coughed up from the depths to eat a hull but Corexit is not eating fiberglass nor metal. Removing paint? Sure, why not?

Pure fear-mongering BS from no less than CNN. If boats are acquiring holes due to caustic substances being spewed from the earth so be it but making the tie to Corexit is disingenuous.

[Horn]

The proprietary composition is not public, but the manufacturer's own safety data sheet on Corexit EC9527A (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corexit#Composition) says the main components are 2-butoxyethanol and a proprietary organic sulfonate with a small concentration of propylene glycol.


2-Butoxyethanol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-butoxyethanol) is a solvent in paints and surface coatings...


2-Butoxy Ethanol (http://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/0275.pdf) is a colorless liquid with a mild odor. It is used as a solvent for resins, lacquers, varnishes, and enamels...


Well there ya go.

[TPTB]

Does the video try to say that some paint is coming off the boats or that holes are being eaten through the hulls? There's a big damned difference between the two.


The video doesn't "say" squat. Near the end of a montage of clips, it shows a steel V- hulled boat with huge rust holes in the bow above the water line for 2 second tops.

Any connection to the dispersant known as Corexit is merely implied without any analysis whatsoever. None. Zip.

My guess is the boat being shown had been wet docked and almost never used for years, but then thrown into service due to the oil catastrophe and after a short time pounding through rough water, the hull paint peeled away showing the rust damage that had been concealed by the paint.

It may be possible, although rather unlikely that the Butoxyethylene solvent helped soften the paint, but it had nothing whatsoever to do with the rust.






all speculation above

No one would notice that their ships hull was losing paint, getting holes, etc until they actually took the boat out of the water.

also, no boat owner would ever just "paint over a rust spot"

sanding, repairing, etc

unless you want to see the thing sink at sea

boats are made primarily of fiberglass, aluminum, etc very very rarely steel (unless you are talking big transports, military)

something is eating into the boats.




Alright LS, I agree... I speculated. Who isn't speculating at this stage.

But here's something that isn't speculation. This video has made the speculative assertion that Corexit is "eating through boat hulls",... but then offers a useless 2 or 3 second shot of one highly questionable boat hull. That is what's known as hyperbole, or hype for short. On the street it is commonly referred to as bullshit.

[Libertytree]

This is just a layman's observation but if the chemicals in the water are (only) dissolving the paint on boats isn't this just adding to the toxic brew already in the Gulf?

Surely, this isn't a good thing no matter how ya look at it.

[wildcard]

The good news is, the waters of the gulf we be usable as heating fuel this winter.


No way! Corexit would eat right through the fire box and rust it out within days. ::)


Maybe in the same reality where kerosene fires caused the WTC to collapse. ::)

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3044040/2/istockphoto_3044040-charcoal-barbecue-grill.jpg

[Large Sarge]

Does the video try to say that some paint is coming off the boats or that holes are being eaten through the hulls? There's a big damned difference between the two.


The video doesn't "say" squat. Near the end of a montage of clips, it shows a steel V- hulled boat with huge rust holes in the bow above the water line for 2 second tops.

Any connection to the dispersant known as Corexit is merely implied without any analysis whatsoever. None. Zip.

My guess is the boat being shown had been wet docked and almost never used for years, but then thrown into service due to the oil catastrophe and after a short time pounding through rough water, the hull paint peeled away showing the rust damage that had been concealed by the paint.

It may be possible, although rather unlikely that the Butoxyethylene solvent helped soften the paint, but it had nothing whatsoever to do with the rust.






all speculation above

No one would notice that their ships hull was losing paint, getting holes, etc until they actually took the boat out of the water.

also, no boat owner would ever just "paint over a rust spot"

sanding, repairing, etc

unless you want to see the thing sink at sea

boats are made primarily of fiberglass, aluminum, etc very very rarely steel (unless you are talking big transports, military)

something is eating into the boats.




Alright LS, I agree... I speculated. Who isn't speculating at this stage.

But here's something that isn't speculation. This video has made the speculative assertion that Corexit is "eating through boat hulls",... but then offers a useless 2 or 3 second shot of one highly questionable boat hull. That is what's known as hyperbole, or hype for short. On the street it is commonly referred to as bullsh*t.














I agree,

the video title was likely meant to cause more views/hits

if it really is doing it (And I guess it could do it), then we will get more reports

either way you are right the video title was misleading.

[TPTB]

The good news is, the waters of the gulf we be usable as heating fuel this winter.


No way! Corexit would eat right through the fire box and rust it out within days. ::)


Maybe in the same reality where kerosene fires caused the WTC to collapse. ::)

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3044040/2/istockphoto_3044040-charcoal-barbecue-grill.jpg


;D I'm glad you caught the subtle allusion.


the video title was misleading.

Thanks LS, I'm just concerned that people might overreact from all this crazy shit. I live here in Florida and if people actually acted on much of the advice from this forum they might possibly be unemployed vagrants living out of their cars in Kansas City by now. :-\

[Quantum]

This much can be gathered from the MSDS.


The first thing one gathers from the MSDS is that NALCO - the Corexit manufacturer - wrote it:

http://lmrk.org/corexit_9500_uscueg.539287.pdf

[SLV^GLD]

This much can be gathered from the MSDS.


The first thing one gathers from the MSDS is that NALCO - the Corexit manufacturer - wrote it:

http://lmrk.org/corexit_9500_uscueg.539287.pdf
Yep. That is a big ole grain of salt, isn't it? I noticed that from day one.