The coming war with mexico

[wallew]

From a family friend who lives in Corpus Christi, Texas - I lived there for at least ten years growing up.

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Don't remember Buccaneer Days, like this. Times and people sure have changed.

Subject: Buccaneer Days Corpus Christi

Dear friends and family,
You might find the following story as appalling as I do. This incident involved not only my sister but other women whose children proudly serve in the military. It took place Saturday night at the Buc Day Parade in Corpus Christi . For those of you who are not familiar with the parade; it is a lighted night parade that culminates two weeks of celebrations, rodeos, carnivals, etc. The average attendance being 150,000 people. Please note that the situation the Blue Star Mothers faced was not anti war sentiment; rather, it was an anti American uprising. It terrifies me to think what is happening in this country. Please read her account of the incident.

Barbara (is a friend who lives in Portland)


I want you all to know what happened last night as our Blue Star Mothers float progressed down a 5+ mile parade route during the "Buc Days" celebration. When we entered the stadium and were introduced, the audience stood and applauded as we traveled the track. (Our float consisted of patriotic stuff plus the Blue Star Mother's flag, an American flag and another for each branch of the service.)

Once the float exited the stadium, the support changed abruptly. Both sides of the street had families flying the Mexican flag. In some instances, at the sight of our American flag, parade goers would boo us or do a thumbs down gesture... in others, they would collect their Mexican flag and wave it back at us... and I heard "Viva La Mexico !"

Not knowing Spanish, I have no idea what was being yelled at us. However, though I'm the only Caucasian in our group, I was beginning to wonder what the other BS Mothers would do. After a while, I was pleased to hear them start to yell back, "USA !" " USA !" I did, too, but was warned I could get shot - I did it nonetheless. I said I'd rather die standing up for my country than walk idly by and let these hoodlums get away with it. The crowd in some cases seemed intimidated by the pro-Mexicans. I have to admit, the ones doing it did look threatening. I just wonder if the volume of Mexican flags being flown was shown on the 10 o'clock news last night. Lulac had a float just ahead of us - separated only by a float with a dozen horsemen from a border town. The riders carried the American & Mexican flags. They were quite ugly toward us, though we tried to be friendly - they only glared. You can also imagine what their horses did to us all along the parade route, too! (Now, there's a thought worth a good chuckle.)

Thanks for letting me vent - I feel better - but I do intend to contact my state and federal representatives to educate myself on positions on the matter and let them know from here on, my vote will go to who ever takes a stand against illegal aliens.

There's a war brewing between illegal their supporters vs. America. I saw more signs of it than I can relate in this email. People, the American public better wake and I mean now. The bad guys have been empowered because we Americans have offered little or no resistance - and they know they have support of the media and politicians on both sides of the aisle vying for the Latino vote. I hope, in the end, these bad guys (and they are bad guys) will discover they misconstrued American hospitality and the politicians misjudged the patience of our patriotism.

Blue Star Mom,
Bev

[FunnyMoney]

TPTB would love to start a race war.

What could be a bigger distraction from those behind the curtain than a civil war or an ethnic cleansing? Certainly you must have been provided with the amazingly gruesome details about the ones of recent past in eastern europe and africa, just to name 2 out of dozens.

Everyone firmly outside the matrix has seen the evidence. Leaders start and sustain conflicts of all types. The war business is a lucrative one and nothing is more lucrative than civil strife and deep-rooted religious or ethnic hatred.

If the PTB are actually able to pull off a regional or race war in the Americas I would be suprised. But then again, sometime later down the road - it's possible. Anything is possible when it comes to those in charge of the world today, they are no doubt the circus from hell.

[General of Darkness]

There has to be pictures and some video.

[FunnyMoney]

That said, I don't think things go that way. TPTB have things on a different course. The illegal problem will probably go away as populations go into more sedentary survival modes. Why travel thousands of miles to wait around for house cleaning and low paying jobs that are vanishing fast. The USA could become as poor as Mexico over the next 2 decades at which point the PTB could re-introduce the NAFTA programs as a possible solution to desperate unemployed populations of both sides of the border.

It seems to me the goal is to dramatically lower the standard of living of the USA middle class to the point they can no longer make use of their 2nd amendment right. Some type of civil or racial conflict would probably not reach that goal nearly as quickly if at all.

TPTB have tried in many ways to disarm the American middle class, it is IMO one of their primary goals at this juncture, possibly the number one goal for many of them.

[wallew]

Here is the Buc Days website...

http://www.bucdays.com/

It was the last week of April and ended May 2nd.

You would have to have a talk with a TV or possibly a radio station

FM,
You are correct about trying to disarm us. You HAVE been paying attention to what Hillary is doing about 'small and light arms' via the UN, yes?

[Buddha]

Just goes to show.....

[FunnyMoney]

wallew,

There is only one well armed large working population left on the planet. Add to that the fact that this working population is mostly middle class (at least up until recently) giving them the ability to buy ammo, maintain / accumulate arms and train properly and safely.

It only makes sense that this would be a thorn in the side of TPTB. Armed workers are able to protect themselves from a ruthless or facist state. In China, workers are mostly left with the option of suicide. In north korea, it is suicide of the soul from the early years of life for nearly everyone.

An armed society can never run out of options. For most of the world, although they don't realize it, the options can and eventually will run out. TPTB recognize this situation. Of course they would attack the only thing left that could hinder them.

[General of Darkness]

I don't mean to be a dick, but until I see video or photos this is just an anonymous email, nothing more nothing less.

[FunnyMoney]

I don't mean to be a dick, but until I see video or photos this is just an anonymous email, nothing more nothing less.


I don't think it matters if it was true. Maybe it is true. Then again, maybe it's not.

What difference does it make? It is a side issue, a distraction, something to throw out at the masses along with bread and circus.

Filled with words like "patriotic" and "flag waving" - do you think it is meant to really address war as a business, the truth behind the mic or the fact that the Mexican fiat money is of no more value than the dollar except by illusion? The circus from hell goes on, the show must go on. When you stop hearing about the side issues or the latest fuss - that's when I'd get worried.

[Buddha]

Exactly, we have wallew here stirring shit up about how Mexicans hate us, It has no matter. Illegals are here because it is government program for them to be here. The coming war with Mexico, what fucking war? There is none, the like to have drug cartels, drugs should be legal anyway. Whether we get them from the armed Mexican cartels or from the CIA it makes only a minute amount of difference.

All this race shit is but a distraction. How about that Oilcano that has been pumping out 100,000 barrels for over 2 months now. How about those carriers parked outside of Iran? How about the house of Saud letting the Zionists use their airspace? How about that fiat currency and it's inevitable debasement?

[Quantum]

Mexico already won, and we lost via unconditional surrender.

[Awoke]

TPTB would love to start a race war.


This. is. truth.

[DMac]

wallew repeating a craigslist chain letter, posted here June 23rd

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/rnr/1806857180.html

Edit to add this thing reads like the propaganda it is...I'm expecting one claiming sharia law is gonna get us all to come next!

[madfranks]

I live in Corpus Christi and I'll tell you with certainty that the account wallew posted is accurate. I posted a thread earlier about my attempts to take my kids out to a city park and we were surrounded by third world mexicans. We are white and we can't take our kids to any of the city parks because we're outnumbered 5 to 1 by mexicans who glare at you and give you dirty looks because you speak english and are white. They come to the parks in large groups so they feel empowered when they see a family of whites come to "their" park. I was naive when I moved here, would take my kids to the park and just try to be pleasant and smile, but there is hate in their eyes when they see a white family, they do not like us. The entire city is divided into the livable areas and the "bad side of town". You don't even drive into the bad side of the city at night if you're white. This city is being taken over and as Quantum said, we've already lost by unconditional surrender. My office is right on the border of the good and bad side of the city, and we can't stay in our office to work after hours, because as the evening progresses the area gets taken over by the thugs and illegals.

And Buddha, you think the mexicans hating us is no matter? For us white Americans living in cities being taken over by them, it matters a lot. My wife and I have already decided we're leaving this shithole of a city, T minus three weeks and we're out of here.

[Awoke]

Good for you, MadFranks. I will pray that you adn your family have a safe and uneventful move, and that you are happy and comfortable in your new digs!

[crazychicken]

Good luck with your move.

Keep your head down.

CC

[cedarchopper]

Good luck, Madfranks...you won't regret getting out of that backwater. Where to? San Antonio? From the frying pan into the fire :]

[chad]

I live in Corpus Christi and I'll tell you with certainty that the account wallew posted is accurate. I posted a thread earlier about my attempts to take my kids out to a city park and we were surrounded by third world mexicans. We are white and we can't take our kids to any of the city parks because we're outnumbered 5 to 1 by mexicans who glare at you and give you dirty looks because you speak english and are white. They come to the parks in large groups so they feel empowered when they see a family of whites come to "their" park. I was naive when I moved here, would take my kids to the park and just try to be pleasant and smile, but there is hate in their eyes when they see a white family, they do not like us. The entire city is divided into the livable areas and the "bad side of town". You don't even drive into the bad side of the city at night if you're white. This city is being taken over and as Quantum said, we've already lost by unconditional surrender. My office is right on the border of the good and bad side of the city, and we can't stay in our office to work after hours, because as the evening progresses the area gets taken over by the thugs and illegals.

And Buddha, you think the mexicans hating us is no matter? For us white Americans living in cities being taken over by them, it matters a lot. My wife and I have already decided we're leaving this sh*thole of a city, T minus three weeks and we're out of here.


i experienced the EXACT same thing you describe in houston in 1997. i can only imagine how it is now.

[madfranks]

Good for you, MadFranks. I will pray that you adn your family have a safe and uneventful move, and that you are happy and comfortable in your new digs!


Thanks Awoke! I appreciate it very much.

[wildcard]

TPTB would love to start a race war.


This. is. truth.


While true, TPTB also push diversity and multi-culturalism down our throats. If whitey doesn't not become racially aware then we are toast either way. May as well go out swinging.

[philo beddoe]

I live in Corpus Christi and I'll tell you with certainty that the account wallew posted is accurate. I posted a thread earlier about my attempts to take my kids out to a city park and we were surrounded by third world mexicans. We are white and we can't take our kids to any of the city parks because we're outnumbered 5 to 1 by mexicans who glare at you and give you dirty looks because you speak english and are white. They come to the parks in large groups so they feel empowered when they see a family of whites come to "their" park. I was naive when I moved here, would take my kids to the park and just try to be pleasant and smile, but there is hate in their eyes when they see a white family, they do not like us. The entire city is divided into the livable areas and the "bad side of town". You don't even drive into the bad side of the city at night if you're white. This city is being taken over and as Quantum said, we've already lost by unconditional surrender. My office is right on the border of the good and bad side of the city, and we can't stay in our office to work after hours, because as the evening progresses the area gets taken over by the thugs and illegals.

And Buddha, you think the mexicans hating us is no matter? For us white Americans living in cities being taken over by them, it matters a lot. My wife and I have already decided we're leaving this sh*thole of a city, T minus three weeks and we're out of here.


i experienced the EXACT same thing you describe in houston in 1997. i can only imagine how it is now.
Our government pushes this shit with section 8 housing. The beaners only stay away from parks that are deep in coastal areas, or ones they don't know about yet. Charging a fee helps keep them away, as the free swap meets are overrun, but the ones that charge as little as $2, keep them out.

[chad]

truer words have never been spoken. i lived in complex that was normal housing in houston. they opened it to subsidized housing, and it turned in to a shithole over night. about a month after they opened it up to subsidized housing, we had 2 shootings. that made us GTFO.

[VX1]

TPTB would love to start a race war.


This. is. truth.


While true, TPTB also push diversity and multi-culturalism down our throats. If whitey doesn't not become racially aware then we are toast either way. May as well go out swinging.


…and the agenda is even more pervasive than most will ever realize. I have a close acquaintance high up in corporate CitiGroup’s procurement division. They’re not allowed to buy anything from a white-owned company, if there is an alternative available from a “minority”-owned company, no matter the price. All their vendors are graded on “diversity” characteristics, and they must go with the most “diverse” (funny how an all black or all hispanic vendor is considered diverse in their mindset).

[V10Silver]

All I can say is Thank God I'm up here in New Hampshire. I'd like to move someplace warmer but I hear stories like this and figure what the hell I'll just deal with
the cold.

[chad]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7nQrCgALM

;D

[wildcard]

All I can say is Thank God I'm up here in New Hampshire. I'd like to move someplace warmer but I hear stories like this and figure what the hell I'll just deal with
the cold.


Yeah, at least you don't have to worry about this sort of thing:

linky (http://www2.scnow.com/scp/news/local/pee_dee/article/police_hartsville_man_takes_sleeping_9-year-old_girl_from_her_bed_sexually_/202150/)

or this to stick with the mexico theme:

linky (http://www.abc4.com/mostpopular/story/Amber-Alert-for-young-girl-police-need-your-help/SIkLOrGgdUeKyI6A5znGyA.cspx)

[V10Silver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7nQrCgALM

;D



If you are from here (NH) there are so many things in that video that are dead on right. Way cool vid...Thanks

[Ponce]

Why all the fuzz? move here to my Micky Mouse one mule of a town......1,600 people with only one black family, five Mexicans and one Cuban ;D

The Mexicans in the US are ready to make war because to them is "payback" time, is not a matter of being here illegally and the power behind them will be the Cartel for their own reasons.......as it will happen once we enter WWIII where you will see how many countries will really be on the side of the US.

[wallew]

I don't mean to be a dick, but until I see video or photos this is just an anonymous email, nothing more nothing less.


wallew repeating a craigslist chain letter, posted here June 23rd http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/rnr/1806857180.html Edit to add this thing reads like the propaganda it is...I'm expecting one claiming sharia law is gonna get us all to come next!


Given that Madfrank has verified the PREMISE BEHIND this particular story, I believe I'm owed an apology.

For those of you who have NEVER LIVED ON OUR BORDER WITH MEXICO? YOU GOT ZERO IDEA.

And the Mexicans sound so tough. YEAH, right. They got zero idea. RIGHT NOW, we are not doing ANYTHING. That's getting ready to change.

There WILL be an event. It will probably occur in TEXAS. And when the FEDS refuse to address it two things will happen.

Texas WILL SECEDE

TEXAS WILL WHIP THE SHEIT OUT OF MEXICO YET AGAIN. THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE SO 'POWERFUL' IS BECAUSE CURRENTLY 'GOOD MEN DO NOTHING'.

That is getting ready to change.

I can't remember WHERE I read it, but on one of the few forums I visit, a guy was 'going to AZ' to join up with some organization who is getting ready to 'get some'.

Once this fuse is lit, you will see mexicans fleeing in large numbers. You will also see dead mexicans all over the place, which is WHAT WILL CAUSE THE REST OF THEM TO FLEE. Too bad. Because once this starts? The blood will flow in the streets.

Texas will probably have to 'clean' mexico as well.

Perhaps nuking Mexico city. While it sounds harsh, that is EXACTLY why we still have a race called Japanese.

Because had we NOT nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japs would have LITERALLY FOUGHT TO THE LAST MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD. Estimates of US losses were at LEAST one million men IF we invaded the island of Japan.

And trust me, once the war was over and all those guys who fought in Japan came home EXACTLY HOW LONG do you actually think those Japs locked into concentration camps would have lasted? Not long for sure.

So, unless we want to COMPLETELY EXTERMINATE EVERY LATIN DESCENDED PERSON, seems a nuclear weapon is going to become the lesson of choice.

God I hope not.

And narco trafficantes are so damned tough, Texas might have to send THREE TEXAS RANGERS to clean that mess up.

I have been TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE THAT MEXICO IS OUR LARGEST PROBLEM FOR TWENTY YEARS. THOUGH IN TRUTH, ISLAM IS THE LARGEST LONG TERM PROBLEM. MEXICO IS OUR SHORT TERM PROBLEM.

The funny part is I've spent many summers on the border of Texas/Mexico as a young man doing 'outreach' to poor mexicans. And while they put a smiley face on, you CAN SEE the hatred in their eyes. THAT WAS FORTY YEARS AGO.

I was talking to my Mom and she said she didn't understand. They are AT BEST middle class. Perhaps sliding into lower middle class as both my parents approach ninety. I tried to explain that while WE don't think we are rich, if you come from a country where there is no electricity outside of major metropolitan cities, having a TV and a reefer/freezer full of food and a pantry that is stuff full, WE ARE RICH in comparison.

GD & DMac, I'll LOVE to hear what you have to say WHEN YOUR FAMILY SUFFERS AT THE HAND OF AN ILLEGAL MEXICAN.

You will both suddenly 'see the light'. Until then, you two just keep your heads buried... um, ... wherever it is you bury your head. Because as long as you do that? DENIAL IS NOT THE NAME OF A RIVER IN EGYPT.

You are NOT aware of your surroundings at all time. Because YOU don't think Mexicans are trouble. Hopefully it doesn't cost you TOO DEARLY.

And when that DOES HAPPEN, YOU WILL REMEMBER THIS THREAD. Hopefully you don't suffer too badly. Because these folks will kill you for what you are wearing.

[DMac]

wallew,

I'm not going to apologize for pointing out the source of the email you posted.

Yes, the border is a serious issue and I take offense to your ramblings and threats. Had you been a participating member of this forum these past couple months you would have seen my posts on this subject.

My solution?

Annex Mexico.

It's a dirty and complex solution, and I don't like it nor agree with it in principle, but I think it is what needs to be done.

The opportunity for better solutions has already passed.

[illumin19]

There will be no war with Mexico.....the stupidest $#!+ I almost ever heard.
Living in L.A. and being of "Latin" descent, I can't stand alot of Mexican/Central american nationals myself........but then again that's the same for most first generation Asian immigrants too. It's the culture/mannerisms mostly......


Though I don't disagree that in the future there won't be fighting in the streets related to borders and old borders......but that wouldn't be limited to just "white" people fighting if indeed there was Mexican nationals fighting Americans, that would include other ethnic groups as well.


And this talk of "exterminating every latin descended person" is completely horse $#!+......good luck with that even if you tried. You would be fighting good Americans as well.

[Grand Master Melon]

Given that Madfrank has verified the PREMISE BEHIND this particular story, I believe I'm owed an apology.



Wow :oo-->

[learn2swim]

I hate to say it, but we need a civil war in this country..

[ximmy]

Given that Madfrank has verified the PREMISE BEHIND this particular story, I believe I'm owed an apology.



Wow :oo-->


apology required within five minutes or the tears will flow

[Grand Master Melon]

I live in Corpus Christi and I'll tell you with certainty that the account wallew posted is accurate. I posted a thread earlier about my attempts to take my kids out to a city park and we were surrounded by third world mexicans. We are white and we can't take our kids to any of the city parks because we're outnumbered 5 to 1 by mexicans who glare at you and give you dirty looks because you speak english and are white. They come to the parks in large groups so they feel empowered when they see a family of whites come to "their" park. I was naive when I moved here, would take my kids to the park and just try to be pleasant and smile, but there is hate in their eyes when they see a white family, they do not like us. The entire city is divided into the livable areas and the "bad side of town". You don't even drive into the bad side of the city at night if you're white. This city is being taken over and as Quantum said, we've already lost by unconditional surrender. My office is right on the border of the good and bad side of the city, and we can't stay in our office to work after hours, because as the evening progresses the area gets taken over by the thugs and illegals.

And Buddha, you think the mexicans hating us is no matter? For us white Americans living in cities being taken over by them, it matters a lot. My wife and I have already decided we're leaving this sh*thole of a city, T minus three weeks and we're out of here.


I'm pretty sure that your not going to the parks is what is empowering them.

Call the police, the INS, send in the Klan or whatever but take your parks back. Allowing them to intimidate you is what empowers them. These people that have highjacked your parks are bullies and while they may be a product of their environment they're not indicative of all brown people.

Oh and blue is why green is happening.

[Buddha]

Stop being a victim Madfranks, and all whites in general

[osoab]

Texas WILL SECEDE


Texas secede? With Rick Perry as your Gov? Yeah right.


GD & DMac, I'll LOVE to hear what you have to say WHEN YOUR FAMILY SUFFERS AT THE HAND OF AN ILLEGAL MEXICAN.

And this is much worse that suffering from the hand of and Irishman? Suffering is suffering. I don't think race/nationality adds that much too it in the long run unless you have hate already settled into your psyche against a race/nationality.


Because these folks will kill you for what you are wearing.

This can happen at any time, and I'll bet it is rare compared to child abductions. Saying that poor Mexicans will do be doing it doesn't give much credence, especially when you live in area that has a large population of poor Mexicans.

[osoab]

wallew,

I'm not going to apologize for pointing out the source of the email you posted.

Yes, the border is a serious issue and I take offense to your ramblings and threats. Had you been a participating member of this forum these past couple months you would have seen my posts on this subject.

My solution?

Annex Mexico.

It's a dirty and complex solution, and I don't like it nor agree with it in principle, but I think it is what needs to be done.

The opportunity for better solutions has already passed.


Why in the heck do we want Mexico?

Is it for their natural resources? How about to stop lawsuits related to the Gulf Spew?

The history of America and Mexico couldn't have taken two more divergent paths.
What do we have in common?

With the exception of the border, a few fine state residents of Mexican heritage, and tacos, there is not much more that is cohesive for the 2 nations.

Oops, forgot Tequila.

The solution has not passed. The STATES need to send their asses packing. The STATES need to enforce THEIR borders.

The only people that have failed here are the residents of the states. Yep it is you. You keep electing the morans who run things for you.

Come to think of it, every other state should be suing the states that border Mexico for failing to stop the flow of illegals.

[Bullfrog]

There is no way the USA is gonna drop a nuke on Mexico. And on a related note, WW2 Japan was trying to surrender when they got nuked. So unless Wallew can build a bomb, or knows someone that can, I am betting we will see amnesty happen first.

[cedarchopper]

Wallew, that's some convoluted reasoning you've got going there. You seems to wind yourself up into a bigger frenzy with each point.

The issue is illegal immigration and the impact on schools, property taxes, hospitals, wage suppression, unemployment, anchor babies, welfare, etc...all problems that can be remedied by the rule of law.

Vigilante gangs would probably result in the opposite of what you are projecting. I have no interest in bringing violence to poor migrates looking for opportunity...opportunities they are encouraged to pursue by Corporate and Government incentives. The incentives need to be changed...and we have a better chance of doing that with escalating pressure on Corporations and Government. Maybe you should start attacking the real culprits, but they will kick your ass so you won't consider that.

[Tumbleweed]

wallew,

There is only one well armed large working population left on the planet. Add to that the fact that this working population is mostly middle class (at least up until recently) giving them the ability to buy ammo, maintain / accumulate arms and train properly and safely.

It only makes sense that this would be a thorn in the side of TPTB. Armed workers are able to protect themselves from a ruthless or facist state. In China, workers are mostly left with the option of suicide. In north korea, it is suicide of the soul from the early years of life for nearly everyone.

An armed society can never run out of options. For most of the world, although they don't realize it, the options can and eventually will run out. TPTB recognize this situation. Of course they would attack the only thing left that could hinder them.



Good post funny money that's the way I see it too.

[philo beddoe]

I hate to say it, but we need a civil war in this country..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfce9ERrBGY

[FunnyMoney]

The issue is ....


.... Maybe you should start attacking the real culprits, but they will kick your ass so you won't consider that.


Well, there are symptoms and there are root causes. The symptoms can be readily seen from both inside and outside the matrix. The root causes are a different matter completely.

I'm wondering what people would do if they were given self-determination in a really free and fair economic and social system. Did anyone think to consider that they would probably just stay home and be a productive part of society?

The whole title of this thread is an "inside the matrix" idea. War with this nation or that, war with this religion or that, war with this race or that. Step outside the matrix and it all becomes crystal clear though. The real war is that which those who control everything wage on those who produce everything.

"The coming war with who?" There is no coming war, the war has always been here and rages everyday.

[StackerKen]

Remember the Alamo!

[Quantum]

There WILL be an event. It will probably occur in TEXAS. And when the FEDS refuse to address it two things will happen.

Texas WILL SECEDE

TEXAS WILL WHIP THE SHEIT OUT OF MEXICO YET AGAIN. THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE SO 'POWERFUL' IS BECAUSE CURRENTLY 'GOOD MEN DO NOTHING'.


LOL

Texas will do SHIT. Texas is run by Freemasons. And if, by some miracle - literally, a MIRACLE - Texas were to get a free government, all the power of the Jew-S Government would be brought to bear on Texas. The Federal regime would level every Texas city if it even appeared Texas was going to be able to become truly independent...just like it did with Germany in the 1940s.




That is getting ready to change.


No, it's not...because most patriotards piss themselves when accused of "racism" or "anti-Semitism."




Perhaps nuking Mexico city.


To what end? You'd have about 25 million INNOCENTS exterminated. The problems with Mexico are 5% in Mexico City, and 95% in Jew York City.

If you want to nuke something, aim at Washington, DC. Or do you not have the balls to say that online?




GD & DMac, I'll LOVE to hear what you have to say WHEN YOUR FAMILY SUFFERS AT THE HAND OF AN ILLEGAL MEXICAN.


Should we kill all veterans because one of my family might have suffered at the hands of another one?




Because YOU don't think Mexicans are trouble.


Of course, most Mexicans are trouble. But no more trouble than Niqqers. And far less trouble than Jews. Get rid of the Jews and their collaborators in government, and peaceful solutions to the Mexican and Negro problems could be achieved easily.

But you're one of the Judeophiles who thinks Satan's chosen people are "sent by God," right?

[Quantum]

My solution?

Annex Mexico.

It's a dirty and complex solution, and I don't like it nor agree with it in principle, but I think it is what needs to be done.

The opportunity for better solutions has already passed.


Some "solution." That's like having leaking barrels of toxic waste, and someone says "drink them" to get rid of the problem.

The only peaceful solution is to overthrow the bankster-tool regime in Mexico City, and replace it with a Mexican Peoples' government. After stability is achieved, ALL Mexicans can go back to a much happier land.

[wallew]

I stand by what I said.

How about we REVISIT THIS SUBJECT.

SAY THREE MONTHS FROM NOW. IN OCTOBER.

And as usual, none of the detractors actually LIVE on the Texas/Mexico border. Or EVER HAVE. I HAVE.

The 'sleeping giant' that is the American people has been woken up and has started to stir. Said 'giant' will be EXTREMELY PISSED OFF FOR BEING WOKE UP. And when that happens, those that woke the giant up ALWAYS PAY A HUGE PRICE.

You folks really need to study your history. GO study what happened IN EVERY BORDER STATE WITH MEXICO IN THE LAST DEPRESSION. THEY ALL PASSED LAW MAKING IT ILLEGAL FOR MEXICANS TO LIVE IN THE USA. THAT SENTIMENT HAS NOT CHANGED.

Once the AMERICAN PEOPLE start something? The leaders will either get out of the way OR GET RUN OVER BY THE PEOPLE.

AND THAT INCLUDES RICK PERRY, if he is so stupid to oppose the Mexican invasion that IS OCCURRING IN TEXAS RIGHT NOW. And if you don't believe this, then you are WOEFULLY misinformed.

And wow, all those 'ethnic classes' that are going to join the Mexicans?

Blacks? THEY HATE MEXICANS AND VICE VERSA
Asians? SAME

And leave us NOT FORGET that out of 330 MILLION PEOPLE living inside the USA, right now 240+ MILLION OF THEM ARE WHITE. That's 73%. The number may be a little higher with the next census figures coming out in the next year.

Q, I love how you ACTUALLY ADMIT that the mexicans are trouble. But then list other groups - this is the old two wrongs make a right argument - we have OTHER GROUPS that are problems, so we can't JUST single out the mexicans (actually we can are getting ready to). Yet you leave out Moslems. I find that interesting.

So, like I said, mexicans are the SHORT TERM problem that MUST be dealt with. If they 'link arms' with moslems, SO MUCH THE BETTER.

Because then we will FINALLY BE ABLE TO ADDRESS BOTH OF OUR LARGEST GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT WANT THIS COUNTRY TO FALL.

[wallew]

AND IN CASE YOU DID NOT READ THIS:

It is a review of a book authored by Wilson Beck [not Glenn Beck], titled "Wakeup Call From Mexico"

I think Mr. Beck makes a clear case for closing the border, stopping illegal immigration and limiting legal immigration to the US. He details the history of Mexico and the Mexican culture. To many people fail to realize how big a cultural difference there really is between Americans and Mexicans.

If you haven't seen the light on this issue, pay attention and read below. I have broad shoulders so go ahead and sling the racist arrows my way.

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-202826.html

Book Review: Spiraling Toward Chaos
By Fred Elbel

Volume 20, Number 2 (Winter 2009-2010)

Issue theme: "Timeout! The case for a moratorium on legal immigration."

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http://www.thesocialcontract.com/pdf...20_2_elbel.pdf

Wakeup Call From Mexico

An Historical and Contemporary Understanding of Mexico’s Pandemic Violence, Drug War, Kidnappings, and Illegal Immigration; How to Safeguard America as America Spirals Toward Chaos

By Wilson Beck

Mucho Press

Occasionally, a book is published which, while providing a myriad of details on a subject matter, also conveys the complete gestalt — the big picture. Wakeup Call From Mexico is such a book. Immensely readable, this book describes Mexico’s violent history, its class-based society, its ineffective and corrupt political system, and the serious threat that Mexico as a nearly failed state poses to the United States. The historical perspective alone makes this book required reading for all concerned with U.S.-Mexico relations and unending illegal immigration across the unsecured U.S.-Mexico border.

The author, Wilson Beck, possesses substantial credibility as one who has spent more than forty years in Mexico as his second home. As a true Mexicophile, he has studied Mexico’s history, people and cultural differences that have now taken it to the brink of catastrophe. Mexico Lindo (beautiful Mexico) has become Mexico Pilogrosso (dangerous Mexico). An examination of Mexico’s enthralling history reveals why.

Mexico’s Golden Age

When Cortéz landed in 1519 and claimed the region for Spain, there were between 10 and 30 million inhabitants in Mexico, yet when the Pilgrims arrived at Plymouth Rock in 1620, there were probably fewer than 5 million inhabitants in the region known today as the U.S. The floating gardens of Tenochititlán (Mexico City) were surrounded by a million people while the largest European cities supported about 300,000. Beck states quite succinctly that “Pre-Columbian civilization in the U.S. was rudimentary to that of Mexico.”

For 1,000-1,200 years prior to 1250 A.D., agriculture-based cultures had evolved into an advanced society known as Mexico’s Golden Age — the Classical Period. Beck notes that “The people of the Valley of Mexico experienced perhaps the longest period of peaceful and quasi-peaceful human existence ever recorded.” Mexico flourished. Advances in astronomy, math, art, engineering, and agriculture were truly staggering.

It came to an end around 900 A.D. with Mexico’s first cultural collision. The nomadic Toltecs invaded, burned and looted the great city of Teotihuacán and usurped control of the Valley of Mexico. The Aztecs arrived three centuries later to complete the descent into barbarism.

Ritualized Cannibalism

Beck states that “When the Aztecs arrived in1250 A.D., the Valley was crowded with perhaps 5 million of Chichimec barbarians and Toltecs who had been assimilated into the new barbaric culture.” He notes that “The way the Aztecs snuck into the Valley was analogous to the way millions of illegal Mexican immigrants are sneaking into the U.S. today. They arrived uneducated, unskilled, and poor.”

Contrary to popular misconceptions held by Mexicans today who idolize the Aztecs, “The once great Teotihuacán culture was not advanced by the Aztecs. The Aztecs had nothing to do with the Golden Age of Mexico. Quite the contrary, under the barbaric stewardship of the Aztecs, the Mexican culture degraded and reached abysmal states of human existence.”

As occupants of the Valley, the Aztecs were the most brutal. “The beneficent gods of the Teotihuacanos had been exchanged for the blood-thirsty gods of the Aztecs and Chichimecs. A common sacrifice ritual was the extraction and consumption of the human heart while the human still gasped his last precious breaths of air.” The arms and thighs were cooked and eaten by the masses and the torsos were fed to jaguars.

The Aztecs sacrificed 20,000 to 50,000 people a year in the fifteenth century — 2 to 5 million people every century. “Imagine,” Beck writes, “50 to 150 people being brutally sacrificed and eaten every single day in the Central Valley of Mexico” — one percent of the total population. “It was a 300 year blood fest. This became the Mexican nature!” This legacy is inextricably woven into the fabric of present-day Mexico.

Collision with Europe

The arrival of the Spanish initiated Mexico’s second cultural collision, when in 1521, the Aztec tyranny came to an end. Beck writes: “Cortéz defeated an empire… twelve hundred Spaniards defeated 10 million Aztecs!... It is mind-boggling! To understand how this happened is to truly understand the nature, the psyche of the Aztec culture, and the ancestors of modern Mexico.”

At the time, wars were fought between various city-states of Mexico, but not on a grand scale. Small skirmishes were fought to obtain people as slaves and for sacrifice. Beck succinctly notes that “the commerce was humanity…. It was not a political confederacy which was ruled by the Aztecs. It was a system of accommodation built around fear, survival, and cowardice.” Thus, when Cortéz defeated the Aztecs, it was in large part due to the fact the Aztecs did not join together to defend their neighbors. The habit of deference and subordination already had been engrained into the Mexican soul.

Mexicans refer to the Spanish conquest as La Chingada — the rape and destruction of their culture - and still consider themselves as “children of the great violation.” Yet Beck reflects that “The bleeding hearts…who want to marginalize the destructive, horrendous nature of the Aztec culture are not looking at the facts…. Cortéz was the beloved peace-maker…not a war-monger…. What happened in Mexico, however, was not only inevitable but from a humanistic perspective imperative.”

The Collision of Race

By 1600 A.D., the population had decreased markedly from an estimated 18 to 30 million people to 1.1 to 3.5 million. The Spaniards quested for gold while “The Catholic Church was tasked with converting the cannibals into Christians,” notes Beck.

Beck writes that “The biggest difference between Mexico and the U.S., historically, is that the Spaniards interbred with the indigenous people… and the English did not.” Social hierarchy was established: Spaniards born in Spain were the upper class. Children of Spaniards were called Criollos and were white (by Spanish standards).

Mixed offspring of Spanish and Criollos with Mexicans were called Mestizos, who did not advance in society. Beck observes that “These Mestizos, their offspring, and the pureblood, non-hybrid Mexicans became the new Mexican. Their interaction with the Spanish-born immigrants and the Mexican-born Criollos became the third cultural collision of the Mexican culture spawning the 1810 war of independence from Spain.”

Illegitimacy became the norm among Spaniards and Mexicans. Beck reports that today illegitimacy is a normal mode of life in Mexico and that in 2005, approximately 75 percent of illegal alien families in the U.S. were single-mother families.

After 1570, intermarrying came to a halt, leaving society stratified into distinct brown and white components.

Beck comments that “The vast majorities of modern day Mexicans identify and cling to their indigenous roots more than they do their European or Spanish roots. The opposite is true with the minority, twenty-first century whites. They value white skin and blue or green eyes obsessively… Black is so reviled that it almost does not exist. Blacks from around the world know this and basically do not immigrate to Mexico.” This attitude undoubtedly contributes to the conflict between Mexican illegal aliens and native Black Americans in our overwhelmed U.S. public education system.

Political Incompetence

In 1824, a Constitutional government was established in Mexico, much as in the United States. Yet during the first 30 years, 50 presidents were sworn into office. “Mexico continued to experiment with five different constitutions during its first thirty-five years of existence,” writes Beck.

By 1910, 95 percent of Mexico’s wealth was held by three percent of the population. In 1938, in a blatant example of governmental theft, the PEMEX oil company was formed from nationalized American and British holdings. The PRI one-party rule dominated from 1924 to 2000.

Modern-day businesses routinely keep dual sets of books, thus denying tax revenue desperately needed for infrastructure. The mordida — the bite, the bribe — is now commonplace in Mexico and is seen as a routine requisite of conducting business.

Beck concludes that “Most Americans do not understand the depths of Mexican political incompetence and corruption.”

The Mexican Culture

Beck points out striking deep-seated cultural differences between Mexico and the U.S. — with roots that can be traced back to the Aztec culture. He notes that the prevailing paradigm is that a person can be “either the f*%ker or the f*%ee” — either the victim or the perpetrator.

A derivative of a historically subjugated people is the engrained Mexican characteristic of the inability to trust anyone. “The concept of cheating is accepted. It is universal in Mexico. It is a holdover from the Aztec system of accommodation.” Similarly, the rule of law is not held in high esteem in Mexico as it is in the U.S. “When Mexicans do abide by the rule of law it is not for conceptual or moral reasons. They abide by the rule of law in order to not get apprehended by the police.”

Beck reflects that “The inability to accept responsibility for any mistake is a dominant Mexican characteristic… Mexicans are taught from an early age to discount personal responsibility. The idea of apologizing does not exist in the Mexican belief system… It is just part of their culture. This behavior existed 500 years ago and still exists today.”

These cultural aspects contribute to a less cohesive society where effective self-governance is extraordinarily more difficult to sustain than in the U.S.

U.S. – Mexico Relations

In 1824, Mexico was approximately twice as large as the organized parts of the U.S. By the end of the Mexican-American war in 1848, Mexico lost approximately 60 percent of this territory. Beck observes that “Most Mexicans believe that the gringos, one way or another, stole that portion of Mexico. They think it was an unjustifiable, illegal theft… Many Mexican historians equate the California Gold Rush to the Spaniard’s stealing the Aztec gold and silver in the sixteenth century.” It is not without irony that Mexican nationals are slowly reclaiming their lost territory of California.

Beck also notes that tangible reasons for the Mexican’s dislike of the gringos go back to the Spanish hatred of the Anglo-Saxon,” which originated in the fourteenth century. He observes that “The Mexicans have been incapable of creating a modern society. This is the root cause of the hatred the Mexicans have for the Gringos.”

More that $26 billion are sent as remittances by illegal aliens back to Mexico each year. Beck asks us to consider what that amount would do for the American economy: it would purchase more than 1.5 million cars or 15 million computers. $200 billion sent back to Mexico over the past 10 years would have purchased the staggering number of 15 million cars along with 150 million additional computers. “As the U.S. struggles with the worst financial crisis in eighty years, it is time to realize the negative drain that the Giant Sucking Sound from Mexico is having on the American economy,” says Beck.

Furthermore, Mexico’s population continues to rapidly expand, along with a commensurate increase in demand for oil. Beck projects that “By 2014, a few short years from now, Mexico will no longer have excess oil to export. This calamity will be momentous!”

Modern-Day Crime

The Reforma newspaper reported that 3,148 people were killed in drug-related violence since 2008. Forty-five journalists have been killed since 2000. Mexico has edged out Iraq to become the most violent country in the world. Beck observes that “More Mexicans have been killed in the drug war in Mexico in 2007 and 2008 than American soldiers have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan in almost seven years.” This violence is visibly spilling over into the United States. Twenty-seven percent of the total U.S. federal prison population now consists of illegal aliens. Beck notes that unjustifiable sanctuary city policies protect these habitual criminals living in our midst.

“Mexico has embraced and accepted organized crime as a part of their culture,” writes Beck. The drug industry has grown to a $50 billion per-year business. Beck observes that $30 billion in drug cash, $50 billion in laundered money, $30 billion in remittances, and $75 billion in NAFTA trade deficits amount to $185 billion “blowing south to Mexico each year.” Interestingly, the escalating violence between rival drug gangs is reminiscent of the Aztec pattern of grotesque torture and beheadings — deliberately so. The main objective is to intimidate and terrify their opponents — and the populace in general — into submission.

Amidst an outbreak of lawlessness, President Wilson sent troops to the border in 1917 to restore the law. Beck suggests that “American intervention is probably what is needed now in order to stop the violent drug wars engulfing the country… Obviously, it is time for the two governments to secure our common borders again.”

Organized Mexican crime is a critical problem, yet the media is ignoring it. Beck soundly criticizes the Obama administration for failing to take the situation seriously, noting that the U.S. is spending the same amount of money to fight the opium industry in Afghanistan as it is the drug problem in our own back yard.

Kidnapping has become a significant source of criminal revenue. Mexico was the kidnapping capitol of the world in the sixteenth century, and it is again today. The difference is that now kidnappers are seeking ransom instead of dinner. The number of kidnappings in Mexico (called “sequesterings”) exceeded 10,000 in 2008. Kidnapping is now so common that kidnapping insurance is routinely purchased.

Beck observes that “Mexico has decided to prey upon its neighbor in lieu of establishing neighborly relations… There is a large element of Mexicans who do not have respect for the rule of law, the nation, or others. Unfortunately, they respect America and Americans even less.”

Conclusion

Beck clearly understands the consequences of unending illegal immigration into the U.S., asking “If, for example, 40 percent of our rivers and lakes are unusable for swimming in 2008, what will the result be in 2060 with 468 million people? Will the U.S. be like Mexico where 90 percent of the rivers and lakes are polluted and can no longer be used?”

Beck observes that Mexico’s unfortunately high birth rate of 20 per 1,000 will drive its population to double within the next fifty years. “Mexico,” he says, “is a country of babies having babies,” and “immigration to the U.S. (legal or illegal) is not the solution to Mexico’s twenty-first century population or poverty ills.”

Beck proposes the following steps as part of a viable solution:

Congress should limit immigration to 300,000 yearly and establish educational and skill requirements. Beck notes that an official with the Mexican CONAPO (National Population Counsel) official has suggest the total number of illegal aliens and offspring living in the United States is close to 32 million. Up to 20 percent of the Mexican labor force is employed in the U.S. “The poor Mexican family has become splintered and dysfunctional. Their government which has become content to export its workers instead of developing its economy is even more dysfunctional than the Mexican family.”


No amnesty, which would promote continued over-the-top levels of immigration for decades. Beck astutely observes that if 20 million illegal aliens are given amnesty, the result will be an additional 5 million Democratic voters, based on existing voting patterns. Beck then castigates President Obama as 100 percent wrong in promoting amnesty.


Complete the border fence to secure the border.


Use E-Verify across the board.


Increase ICE agents along the border to perhaps 100,000. Currently 19,000 agents intercept only 10 percent of illegal drugs and 25 percent of illegal aliens. Bring home some or most of the 289,000 troops stationed overseas, which includes 120,000 in Germany, Japan, and South Korea. Build at least seven military installations on the border.


Fix visa overstays, which account for one third of illegal aliens in the U.S.


NAFTA has become an unintentional windfall for drug cartels. NAFTA should be reevaluated in the context of the best interests of the U.S.


Perhaps a controversial point, Beck recommends a path to citizenship for a maximum of 5-million illegal Mexican aliens, based first upon repatriation and re-qualification.


Set new immigration levels and standards to avoid importing crime and eventual dumbing-down of American citizenry. He notes that the Australian model would work particularly well, stating that “The old concept of inviting the masses to the shores of the U.S. will not work in the twenty-first century.”

“As altruistic as Americans tend to be, they cannot afford to pay for the social services and education of twenty or thirty million illegal immigrants who have not been participating in the tax-paying system which supports social benefits.”

Beck observes that “We are out of focus as a country, as a culture with the negative impact that both the drug-industry and illegal immigration is having on the U.S.” He notes that “Congress can change a fifty year-old, obsolescent immigration law that was written to address racism yet continues to be a serious impediment to the development of twenty-first century America.”

He warns that “If the U.S. and Mexico do not start down a new path of cooperation Mexico will be a failed stated within ten years” with clearly disastrous consequences for the United States.

“America’s negative response to illegal immigration is not fear. It is a desire to maintain its level of education, values, and integrity.” Beck cautions that history is trying to repeat itself: the Aztecs are migrating northward by the millions, and he asks, “Will America become Mexamerica? It is our responsibility to decide.”

THIS ONE IS DONE. WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS