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Apparition
1st July 2010, 03:06 PM
For a day, a weekend, a week, up to even a month or two, Chinese companies are willing to pay high prices for fair-faced foreigners to join them as fake employees or business partners.

Some call it "White Guy Window Dressing." To others, it's known as the "White Guy in a Tie" events, "The Token White Guy Gig," or, simply, a "Face Job."

And it is, essentially, all about the age-old Chinese concept of face. To have a few foreigners hanging around means a company has prestige, money and the increasingly crucial connections -- real or not -- to businesses abroad.

"Face, we say in China, is more important than life itself," said Zhang Haihua, author of "Think Like Chinese." "Because Western countries are so developed, people think they are more well off, so people think that if a company can hire foreigners, it must have a lot of money and have very important connections overseas. So when they really want to impress someone, they may roll out a foreigner."

Or rent one.

Last year, Jonathan Zatkin, an American actor who lives in Beijing, posed as the vice president of an Italian jewelry company that had, allegedly, been in a partnership with a Chinese jewelry chain for a decade.

When is being foreign a career advantage?

Zatkin was paid 2,000 yuan (about $300) to fly, along with a couple of Russian models, to a small city in the central province of Henan where he delivered a speech for the grand opening ceremony of a jewelry store there.

"I was up on stage with the mayor of the town, and I made a speech about how wonderful it was to work with the company for 10 years and how we were so proud of all of the work they had done for us in China," Zatkin said. "They put up a big bandstand and the whole town was there and some other local muckety-mucks."

The requirements for these jobs are simple. 1. Be white. 2. Do not speak any Chinese, or really speak at all, unless asked. 3. Pretend like you just got off of an airplane yesterday.

Those who go for such gigs tend to be unemployed actors or models, part-time English teachers or other expats looking to earn a few extra bucks. Often they are jobs at a second- or third-tier city, where the presence of pale-faced foreigners is needed to impress local officials, secure a contract or simply to fulfill a claim of being international.

"Occasionally companies want a foreign face to go to meetings and conferences or to go to dinners and lunches and smile at the clients and shake people's hands," read an ad posted by a company called Rent A Laowai (Chinese for "foreigner") on the online classified site thebeijinger.com.

It continued: "There are job opportunities for girls who are pretty and for men who can look good in a suit."

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People like Brad Smith. When Smith -- the nom de plume of the Beijing-based American actor -- answered CNN's phone call on a recent morning, he was standing outside a meeting room at a Ramada Inn in Hangzhou, a city about 100 miles outside of Shanghai. Today's job: Pretend to be an architect from New York and give design plans for a new museum to local officials.

"They have not told me what my name is today. I think it is Lawrence or something," said Smith -- unlike some jobs, no fake business cards were given to hand out.

Earlier that morning he went over his script with his Chinese "business partners" at a Kentucky Fried Chicken. "It says, 'Good morning distinguished leaders. It is my privilege to participate in this program'," said Smith, who asked that his real name not be used for fear it could jeopardize future jobs.

If Smith is asked a question, he is told to pretend to answer as his "translator" pretends to understand.

Occasionally, these jobs can go awry. Smith said 18 months ago Beijing police showed up at his apartment after a financial company he worked at for a couple of months in Xi'an, a city in western China, allegedly swindled millions of yuan out of clients.

"That company said I was the guy in charge," he said. "I didn't even remember the company's name. After that, I decided I was never going to use my passport again with these fake companies. The small gigs are much less dangerous." Sometimes companies will hire Caucasians simply to sit in the office a few hours a day near the window where clients and customers can see them.

White women are also a hot commodity, sometimes to pose as phony foreign girlfriends, or, in the case of Vicky Mohieddeen, to pretend to be an oil tycoon.

Mohieddeen, who is Scottish, took a job in 2008 to attend what she describes as some sort of "oil drilling conference" in Shandong province for 300 yuan ($44). Several busloads of foreigners, with nationalities ranging from Pakistani to Nigerian, were trucked to the event, she said. They were greeted by brass bands and feted with a sumptuous dinner.

"I was like, 'Yeah, we have a lot of oil in Scotland.' I didn't know what to say. It was a bit nerve-racking. We were guests of honor of the vice mayor. We were put in a nice hotel. It was quite fancy."

For Mohieddeen, who had just arrived in Beijing at the time, the experience, albeit bizarre, was an introduction to a side of China most foreigners will never see.

"It is part of what China is all about, you know," Mohieddeen said. "There is quite an elaborate fantasy world going on here where if everyone buys into it, it does not matter if it is the truth. Those kinds of experiences give me a fuller understanding of the way the culture works."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/06/29/china.rent.white.people/index.html (video included in link)

:ROFL: :laugh

wildcard
1st July 2010, 03:14 PM
In Japan it's called the White Tiger at the Zoo. You become the main attraction. I was a white tiger for a while.

gunDriller
1st July 2010, 03:19 PM
i've been training for this job all my life ! 8)

all you have to do is have gray hair and look OK in a suit and read a teleprompter and learn 20 words of Chinese ?

i already know 2 words - Bok Guay, White Devil. That's what some Chinese people call us white folks.

Quantum
1st July 2010, 03:51 PM
Well, that's certainly a different slant on how to do business.

BrewTech
1st July 2010, 03:54 PM
I'm not seeing a problem here... "Americans" do this all the time to promote their businesses...

k-os
1st July 2010, 04:12 PM
I was a little appalled by it at first, because it's all lies. They pay a guy a few hundred bucks to deliver a speech about being with the company for ten years!

But then I settled back into my chair and thought, BrewTech is right. Corporations (and politicians) have made great successes out of lying. It's the charts, statistics or whatever else with us. As a whole, we probably favor companies with white faces too.

sirgonzo420
1st July 2010, 04:42 PM
Ahh, they aren't lying... they're just FAKING.

The chinese are great at faking shit.

wildcard
1st July 2010, 04:45 PM
Well, that's certainly a different slant on how to do business.


They just wanted to be rounded out. ;D

http://images.teamsugar.com/files/upl1/11/115464/37_2008/__Eye_looking_towards_camera.jpg

EE_
1st July 2010, 10:27 PM
Is this any different then the Jew's rolling out a white/Arab president and selling him as black African?

It's all an illusion!
http://www.smartcg.com/tech/cg/courses/CS480/home/imgs/spinning_illusion.gif
http://www.graphicsdb.com/data/media/580/Flying%20Skulls%20Illusion.gif

palani
2nd July 2010, 04:35 AM
Ahh, they aren't lying... they're just FAKING.

The chinese are great at faking sh*t.


The Chinese are copiers. They learn most of what they know from us.

A person is: 1) a word 2) an action or 3) representation. In other words, a person is the "face" an actor puts on. No one ever acts as himself.

Should you ever go to court then you must do so through a legal actor called an attorney. Even if you fail to hire an attorney they classify you as "representing yourself". It puts everyone on an equal footing as there are never any principals in a court. They are all agents (even you should you happen to show up in flesh and blood). If you ever did succeed in presenting yourself AS yourself then you would win all the time as you would then be the only principal present in an ocean of agents.

k-os
2nd July 2010, 04:58 AM
Should you ever go to court then you must do so through a legal actor called an attorney. Even if you fail to hire an attorney they classify you as "representing yourself". It puts everyone on an equal footing as there are never any principals in a court. They are all agents (even you should you happen to show up in flesh and blood). If you ever did succeed in presenting yourself AS yourself then you would win all the time as you would then be the only principal present in an ocean of agents.


That just blew my mind a little.

Bigjon
2nd July 2010, 05:01 AM
I suppose someone may call this a thread hijack, but I have never met anyone who's name ended in 'kin' who was not Jewish.

Telling lies for another tribe, what a surprise!

Jonathan Zatkin, an American actor

The Great Ag
2nd July 2010, 06:57 AM
Should you ever go to court then you must do so through a legal actor called an attorney. Even if you fail to hire an attorney they classify you as "representing yourself". It puts everyone on an equal footing as there are never any principals in a court. They are all agents (even you should you happen to show up in flesh and blood). If you ever did succeed in presenting yourself AS yourself then you would win all the time as you would then be the only principal present in an ocean of agents.


That just blew my mind a little.

If one were to go to court, one could file as "Pro Per" as in In Propria Persona. From Black's 3rd Law Dictionary:

In one's proper person

The courts will PRESUME one to file "Pro se" UNLESS you declare otherwise. Also from Black's 3rd Law dictionary:

For himself; in his own behalf; in person.

palani
2nd July 2010, 08:01 AM
Should you ever go to court then you must do so through a legal actor called an attorney. Even if you fail to hire an attorney they classify you as "representing yourself". It puts everyone on an equal footing as there are never any principals in a court. They are all agents (even you should you happen to show up in flesh and blood). If you ever did succeed in presenting yourself AS yourself then you would win all the time as you would then be the only principal present in an ocean of agents.


That just blew my mind a little.

If one were to go to court, one could file as "Pro Per" as in In Propria Persona. From Black's 3rd Law Dictionary:

In one's proper person

The courts will PRESUME one to file "Pro se" UNLESS you declare otherwise. Also from Black's 3rd Law dictionary:

For himself; in his own behalf; in person.


Go back and read my original post. A "proper person" would be a 1)proper word 2) proper action or 3) proper representation. A "natural person" would be a 1) natural word 2) natural action or 3) natural representation.

There is no way to be yourself. Most court actions are in equity on a matter of account. The name your parents assigned you is your account. Your passport to this land of fiction is your birth certificate which establishes your account.

If your name is hailed in court by the bailiff he is asking for anyone who is there to represent the account. And you will be greatly loved if you agree to be the surety for the account who is being hailed as a debtor for there is no way to win.

The Great Ag
2nd July 2010, 09:51 AM
Go back and read my original post. A "proper person" would be a 1)proper word 2) proper action or 3) proper representation. A "natural person" would be a 1) natural word 2) natural action or 3) natural representation.

There is no way to be yourself. Most court actions are in equity on a matter of account. The name your parents assigned you is your account. Your passport to this land of fiction is your birth certificate which establishes your account.

If your name is hailed in court by the bailiff he is asking for anyone who is there to represent the account. And you will be greatly loved if you agree to be the surety for the account who is being hailed as a debtor for there is no way to win.

Hey, Palani:
My court experiences have been limited to debt actions (Landlord/Tenant) and having "traffic" citations dismissed. So far I have won every time I go into a court room.

Can you provide links for "representing the account" other than Admiralty jurisdiction. It is my opinion most court cases hail under "administrative jurisdiction." Perhaps we are talking the same?

The great Ag

palani
2nd July 2010, 12:29 PM
Hey, Palani:
My court experiences have been limited to debt actions (Landlord/Tenant) and having "traffic" citations dismissed. So far I have won every time I go into a court room.

Can you provide links for "representing the account" other than Admiralty jurisdiction. It is my opinion most court cases hail under "administrative jurisdiction." Perhaps we are talking the same?

The great Ag

Two articles ...
http://adask.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/actions-of-account/
http://adask.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/notice-v-notice-pleading/

As to personage, Hobbes Leviathan is available online for free download. Chapter 16 is entirely the subject of persons.

Virtually all law is private these days. Even international law is called private international law and administrative law is private as well. You consent to the venue and jurisdiction or else you would not be there. Necessity imports privilege.

The Great Ag
2nd July 2010, 05:03 PM
Hey, Palani:
My court experiences have been limited to debt actions (Landlord/Tenant) and having "traffic" citations dismissed. So far I have won every time I go into a court room.

Can you provide links for "representing the account" other than Admiralty jurisdiction. It is my opinion most court cases hail under "administrative jurisdiction." Perhaps we are talking the same?

The great Ag

Two articles ...
http://adask.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/actions-of-account/
http://adask.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/notice-v-notice-pleading/

As to personage, Hobbes Leviathan is available online for free download. Chapter 16 is entirely the subject of persons.

Virtually all law is private these days. Even international law is called private international law and administrative law is private as well. You consent to the venue and jurisdiction or else you would not be there. Necessity imports privilege.





Thanks, Palani:
I will give them a read and read Leviathan.

I do agree most law is private law, whether it is called administrative law or private international law.

Palani have you ever been a defendant or plaintiff? If so, what was your response when "Palani" was called. I have read about individuals who as defendants refuse to answer and the court cannot proceed.
The Great Ag

sirgonzo420
2nd July 2010, 06:09 PM
Hey, Palani:
My court experiences have been limited to debt actions (Landlord/Tenant) and having "traffic" citations dismissed. So far I have won every time I go into a court room.

Can you provide links for "representing the account" other than Admiralty jurisdiction. It is my opinion most court cases hail under "administrative jurisdiction." Perhaps we are talking the same?

The great Ag

Two articles ...
http://adask.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/actions-of-account/
http://adask.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/notice-v-notice-pleading/

As to personage, Hobbes Leviathan is available online for free download. Chapter 16 is entirely the subject of persons.

Virtually all law is private these days. Even international law is called private international law and administrative law is private as well. You consent to the venue and jurisdiction or else you would not be there. Necessity imports privilege.





Thanks, Palani:
I will give them a read and read Leviathan.

I do agree most law is private law, whether it is called administrative law or private international law.

Palani have you ever been a defendant or plaintiff? If so, what was your response when "Palani" was called. I have read about individuals who as defendants refuse to answer and the court cannot proceed.
The Great Ag




Not to answer for palani, but if you don't answer when "your name" is called, they will issue a warrant for "your"* arrest.

*by "your" I mean the legal fiction established by "your" birth certificate / driver's license.

palani
2nd July 2010, 07:07 PM
Palani have you ever been a defendant or plaintiff? If so, what was your response when "Palani" was called. I have read about individuals who as defendants refuse to answer and the court cannot proceed.
The Great Ag

I spoke with someone once who raised the issue of IDEM SONANS in court. The judge accepted it, the defendant went home, an hour later the sheriff showed up with a warrant for failure to appear.

As long as you know only legal fictions appear in court one response is to stand in court and pronounce "I am here today as Joe Blow" to acknowledge that you are not the defendant. There are hours of excellent MP3 files on this subject that can be found at creditorsincommerce.com.

Another approach might be a special appearance in court where venue and jurisdiction is challenged. The key here is that once a special appearance is announced then the hearing converts instantly over to evidentiary rather than argument. Most people who try this fall into argument and so they fail in their objective. You can give no motions or else jurisdiction is granted. Instead you take the stand and present evidence of the venue that you choose.

Venue is a political question. Courts cannot address political questions. In order to have a venue one must exist. So the problem boils down to selecting a venue that has had been created into existence, have a certified copy of that venue from the secretary of state or local recorders office and enter it into evidence. Kind of places the court between a rock and a hard spot.

And no ... I have not tried any of these methods. The only way I will be in court is in shackles and that will not be voluntary.