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BabushkaLady
2nd July 2010, 11:57 AM
I'm not in the habit of quoting myself, but I wanted to expound upon President Obummer's lazy/cheap excuse and my offer to take on the project.





He also claimed it was logistically impossible to round up and deport the illegals.


I specialize in logistically impossible . . .
I'll take on the project for the low low price of $1 per head.


How many illegals are we talking about? I've heard 10-40 million. It's probably in the neighborhood of 25. That would mean about $25 million dollars to take on the challenge. I actually think that the offer should only include rounding them up, let the cost of deporting them fall back to the goberment.

First of all, I don't think in terms of impossible. Way back when, I had a good customer that demanded my company turn a project around in 48 hours. I immediately said, "No Way, can't be done." The customer flew back with, "If you wanted to, you could do it". He was right, if I had better cash flow, I could have done anything. It was a growing pain, he wasn't even aware of. We compromised on 72 hours. That was the last time I ever said No.

After that, I always looked at all the ways I could do something. Run a continuous 24/7 shift, hire a direct-delivery service, fly-in supplies, utilize other people's staff and resources. Our new attitude was to get it done, not cheap mind you, but pulling off the impossible. Many times cash on-top-of overtime to my production manager was what it took. :)

I don't for one minute think the goberment wants to deport illegal immigrants. Let's look at the options, as if rounding them up really was the goal.

If I had the $25 million in hand, I'd start with the easy pickins. I'd start on the Southern border. I'd plan it around a big gathering to catch as many all at once. Didn't they have a few protests this year? I'd put surveillance and presence at all the hospitals, known employers, groceries, churches and neighborhoods. If you rounded up 20-40 at a time, your cost per pick-up would decrease.

I actually think if a "go home illegals" mind-set was really ever adapted, they would scatter back across the border. I also think I'd have plenty of free volunteers to help with the project.

This goberment attitude of impossible just pisses me off. Hell, they have access to the Printing Press. With that much money it would be easy. Instead they give the money to the illegals in the form of freebies.

What do you think? Where would you catch a dozen?

dysgenic
2nd July 2010, 12:00 PM
Of course it's not impossible. And they know it's not impossible, so arguing about what is and what is not impossible is a futile waste of time.

"These shilly mothahumpers, all they do is waste time...."
-carpediem

dys

cedarchopper
2nd July 2010, 12:10 PM
The illegal issue could be resolved without any roundups. Overturn the 1980 Brownsville Federal Court case against the State Of Texas that prohibited the requirement of legal residence as a condition of admittance to public schools, repeal the ridiculous anchor baby citizenship interpretation, and remove all welfare incentives.

There would be an exodus.

k-os
2nd July 2010, 12:14 PM
BabushkaLady, I like your can-do attitude.

I think you'd have no shortage of volunteers to help you, if they knew that this was a real effort, and not just fluff.

However, I would have a really hard time volunteering, around here because they are here for a better life and in my neck of the woods, they are mostly hard working, family oriented people. They are not lazy nor more prone to violence than US citizens. We have mostly Guatemalans instead of Mexicans here. I am not sure if that matters.

My problem has never been about the illegal immigration. My problem is with the freebies that we give out to lure them here. Why wouldn't you move to a place where you can work for cash, not pay taxes, not have to learn a new language, get free health care, free school, free food, free housing?

I would go so far as to say that you'd be a fool not to go to this wonderland if your family was on the verge of starving.

Ponce
2nd July 2010, 12:16 PM
Go to the parking lot of "Home Depot" and you will pick up 50 at a time......I will help as a translator.

Hermie
2nd July 2010, 12:17 PM
How'd they do it in the 1950's for Operation Wetback?

They got it done then; must have had a plan.

Quantum
2nd July 2010, 12:19 PM
All employers of illegals lose the business at which they work via civil forfeiture. Pretty easy to clean up the illegal mess, actually.

BabushkaLady
2nd July 2010, 12:23 PM
However, I would have a really hard time volunteering, around here because they are here for a better life and in my neck of the woods, they are mostly hard working, family oriented people. They are not lazy nor more prone to violence than US citizens. We have mostly Guatemalans instead of Mexicans here. I am not sure if that matters.

My problem has never been about the illegal immigration. My problem is with the freebies that we give out to lure them here. Why wouldn't you move to a place where you can work for cash, not pay taxes, not have to learn a new language, get free health care, free school, free food, free housing?



I know most people are hard-working and family-oriented. I hear ya!! I don't hate them for wanting a better life. I just firmly believe they are illegally pursuing what we are paying for.

Enough is enough!

and dys---I know this is a futile waste of time. :)

sirgonzo420
2nd July 2010, 12:28 PM
All employers of illegals lose the business at which they work via civil forfeiture. Pretty easy to clean up the illegal mess, actually.


I think businesses should be able to hire who they want, and not have to make sure their workers "have their papers in order".

If I'm a business owner, it is not my job to enforce the immigration laws of the United States.

That being said, I am not a fan of illegal immigrants coming in and gobbling up hand-outs.

I just don't think americans should be punished for the illegals unless they are actively smuggling them into the country.


EDIT: what if that new white guy you hired is actually an illegal immigrant from Sweden, should you lose your business?

Quantum
2nd July 2010, 12:34 PM
I think businesses should be able to hire who they want, and not have to make sure their workers "have their papers in order".


If a Spic who can barely speak English is wanting a job, it isn't difficult to understand they don't have any "papers." It doesn't have to involve I-9s.

You will hire them, not because they're the "best man for the job," but because you can cheat them on wages and worker's comp.




I just don't think americans should be punished for the illegals unless they are actively smuggling them into the country.


If no one hired the bastards, there would be NO DEMAND for smuggling them in.




EDIT: what if that new white guy you hired is actually an illegal immigrant from Sweden, should you lose your business?


Name me even ONE "illegal immigrant from Sweden."

General of Darkness
2nd July 2010, 12:37 PM
You want the illegals out. It's easy, you start shooting them in the street like rabid dogs. Unfortunately, that's not legal. But I think the day might come where the kwaps are at home protecting their own because the SHTF.

sirgonzo420
2nd July 2010, 01:04 PM
I think businesses should be able to hire who they want, and not have to make sure their workers "have their papers in order".


If a Spic who can barely speak English is wanting a job, it isn't difficult to understand they don't have any "papers." It doesn't have to involve I-9s.

You will hire them, not because they're the "best man for the job," but because you can cheat them on wages and worker's comp.




I just don't think americans should be punished for the illegals unless they are actively smuggling them into the country.


If no one hired the bastards, there would be NO DEMAND for smuggling them in.




EDIT: what if that new white guy you hired is actually an illegal immigrant from Sweden, should you lose your business?


Name me even ONE "illegal immigrant from Sweden."


The point I was making with the swede (perhaps a canadian would've proved my point better), is that it is crazy for you to be punished for hiring someone who happened to not be here legally.

Say you pay someone cash to paint your house and that person happens to be a white guy who speaks perfect english, but it turns out he is a canadian national who is here without the express consent of the US "authorities".... should you be punished for hiring him?

big country
2nd July 2010, 03:52 PM
A phrase I try to live by:

"Impossible" is just an excuse you use when you don't want to try.

the riot act
2nd July 2010, 04:27 PM
To keep from repeating what has already been said I'm in agreement with sirgonzo and k-os.

If there were no welfare, safe city's, there would be no problem.

I don't see a war on xacans as being productive to either side. But I will defend the piece of ground that I pay tax for against invasion by anyone of any race.