Ron Paul exposed - fully documented (yes, he's a Mason)

[I am me, I am free]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyjxKhNRLvg&feature=player_embedded

[LuckyStrike]

That is reaching to say the least OP.

So they claim Ron Paul was a member of a frat during college. Then they have ties to the frat leader to being a "master" mason. Yet I fail to see the link between Ron Paul and freemasonry.

It's like saying since you were a member of GIM and GIM was started by skyvike who is a high level mason, that means you are a mason even though you don't belong to a lodge or have anything to do with them.

Pretty damn weak argument. My question is why do you go out of your way to attack Ron Paul? Do I get pissed as hell when he calls kik estan our "ally" sure. However he also vote against aid and against sanctions on iran, against doing israels bidding in the mideast so I don't really see how his voting record falls in line with zionism whatsoever.

[I am me, I am free]

That is reaching to say the least OP.

So they claim Ron Paul was a member of a frat during college. Then they have ties to the frat leader to being a "master" mason. Yet I fail to see the link between Ron Paul and freemasonry.

It's like saying since you were a member of GIM and GIM was started by skyvike who is a high level mason, that means you are a mason even though you don't belong to a lodge or have anything to do with them.

Pretty damn weak argument. My question is why do you go out of your way to attack Ron Paul? Do I get pissed as hell when he calls kik estan our "ally" sure. However he also vote against aid and against sanctions on iran, against doing israels bidding in the mideast so I don't really see how his voting record falls in line with zionism whatsoever.


Anyone who thinks Ron Paul has their best interests at heart is a numbskull of the first degree. I was close enough to the national campaign to know the score.

[sirgonzo420]

That is reaching to say the least OP.

So they claim Ron Paul was a member of a frat during college. Then they have ties to the frat leader to being a "master" mason. Yet I fail to see the link between Ron Paul and freemasonry.

It's like saying since you were a member of GIM and GIM was started by skyvike who is a high level mason, that means you are a mason even though you don't belong to a lodge or have anything to do with them.

Pretty damn weak argument. My question is why do you go out of your way to attack Ron Paul? Do I get pissed as hell when he calls kik estan our "ally" sure. However he also vote against aid and against sanctions on iran, against doing israels bidding in the mideast so I don't really see how his voting record falls in line with zionism whatsoever.


Anyone who thinks Ron Paul has their best interests at heart is a numbskull of the first degree. I was close enough to the national campaign to know the score.


I don't think Ron Paul was in control of his campaign....


And I don't think he ran to win.


And I don't think he talks about the 14th Amendment enough...


But I don't hate Ron Paul. There are far more unsavory characters than he.


Also, I gave him a masonic handshake once, just to see how he'd respond. ;D

[LuckyStrike]

That is reaching to say the least OP.

So they claim Ron Paul was a member of a frat during college. Then they have ties to the frat leader to being a "master" mason. Yet I fail to see the link between Ron Paul and freemasonry.

It's like saying since you were a member of GIM and GIM was started by skyvike who is a high level mason, that means you are a mason even though you don't belong to a lodge or have anything to do with them.

Pretty damn weak argument. My question is why do you go out of your way to attack Ron Paul? Do I get pissed as hell when he calls kik estan our "ally" sure. However he also vote against aid and against sanctions on iran, against doing israels bidding in the mideast so I don't really see how his voting record falls in line with zionism whatsoever.


Anyone who thinks Ron Paul has their best interests at heart is a numbskull of the first degree. I was close enough to the national campaign to know the score.


Refute my points then that video said nothing of any importance. Most athletes are in frats in college.

It is exactly the same of me claiming you are under masonic influence because for years you were a member of a semi private forum founded and controlled by a high ranking mason.

So how do we know you have our best interests at heart. Don't get me wrong man, I like you and General, you know we stand on a lot of common ground but if you have some info about RP by all means let it rip.

[I am me, I am free]

Ron Paul wears a Masonic ring (as if this is some big secret lol), his wife is Eastern Star, and his daughters were Rainbow Girls.

Dunno why you cannot get the obvious.

[The Great Ag]

I don't know about Ron Paul being a Mason, but certainly he knows the score and knows how much he can rock the boat before HE capsizes. Even so, he is better than the so-called reps for Delaware (Castle, Carper and Biden's replacement).

I would not vote for RP, it is a wasted vote. . .well, voting in general is a wasted vote, but this is about RP.

The Great Ag

[LuckyStrike]

Ron Paul wears a Masonic ring (as if this is some big secret lol), his wife is Eastern Star, and his daughters were Rainbow Girls.

Dunno why you cannot get the obvious.


If it's so obvious and out in the open by all means post pictures and links documenting it. The reason I press you is because that video was honestly very weak, so if there is a plethora of hard evidence floating around it won't be hard to get it.

Such as pictures of his ring, articles FIRST HAND of him being a mason, quotes from him regarding masonry etc.

[sirgonzo420]

My grandpa is a 32nd degree mason, and I get the impression that I know more about masonry than he does...

There are certainly evil masons, but there are many "porch masons" too.

And there are people who just use freemasonry to "network" with people.

Freemasonry itself, I believe is evil, but not every mason is.

The Federal Reserve System is evil, but not everybody with a FRN in their pocket is.

[LuckyStrike]

I don't think Ron Paul was in control of his campaign....


And I don't think he ran to win.


And I don't think he talks about the 14th Amendment enough...


But I don't hate Ron Paul. There are far more unsavory characters than he.





Agreed 100%

[DMac]

I started a thread here in the first days talking about RP being controlled opposition.

Rand Paul has a bilderberger on his team, also providing financial support.

Ron Paul's family is connected to Mason only organizations as I Am Me... wrote above. That much is documented.

What good has Ron Paul done other than talk - what changes has he brought to fruition?

[sirgonzo420]

I started a thread here in the first days talking about RP being controlled opposition.

Rand Paul has a bilderberger on his team, also providing financial support.

Ron Paul's family is connected to Mason only organizations as I Am Me... wrote above. That much is documented.

What good has Ron Paul done other than talk - what changes has he brought to fruition?




How much can one congressman do though?

He might be controlled op, but he hasn't been completely worthless.

[LuckyStrike]

Ron Paul's family is connected to Mason only organizations as I Am Me... wrote above. That much is documented.

What good has Ron Paul done other than talk - what changes has he brought to fruition?




There is no proof of him being connected to the masons. Only a claim that he was a member of a frat in college that was founded by a mason. Pretty damn big difference.

2nd, what good have you done other than talk? I'm not being an asshole because the same applies to me, my point is that through RP's campaign MANY people that I know personally became aware of a helluva lot of things that they weren't before. Once you get on the road, you will continue down it finding more and more truth as you go along. I honestly think his campaign was a success.

[Quantum]

Either Ron Paul is a Mason, or he is a useful idiot.

Either way, Ron Paul is a DEAD END for our interests.

[DMac]

Ron Paul's family is connected to Mason only organizations as I Am Me... wrote above. That much is documented.

What good has Ron Paul done other than talk - what changes has he brought to fruition?




There is no proof of him being connected to the masons. Only a claim that he was a member of a frat in college that was founded by a mason. Pretty damn big difference.

Did my post mention a frat? No. Look into his wife and kids.



2nd, what good have you done other than talk? I'm not being an asshole because the same applies to me, my point is that through RP's campaign MANY people that I know personally became aware of a helluva lot of things that they weren't before. Once you get on the road, you will continue down it finding more and more truth as you go along. I honestly think his campaign was a success.


Great, the Alex Jones defense. "But he woke me up," or "he woke up friends, etc.."

Come on Nordic, I expected you to have a better understanding of the different facets of controlled opposition.

What have I done?

If I ran for president or served in government for decades you can ask that question.

So, if you or any other Paul supporter can please answer the question I wrote above it would be appreciated.

"In 30+ years what has Ron Paul done to bring positive change to the country? "

I don't hate Paul, he's had some great speeches and such. However, he hasnot served much more of a purpose other than pressure release valve for those not asleep at the wheel.

[LuckyStrike]

Ron Paul's family is connected to Mason only organizations as I Am Me... wrote above. That much is documented.

What good has Ron Paul done other than talk - what changes has he brought to fruition?




There is no proof of him being connected to the masons. Only a claim that he was a member of a frat in college that was founded by a mason. Pretty damn big difference.

Did my post mention a frat? No. Look into his wife and kids.



2nd, what good have you done other than talk? I'm not being an asshole because the same applies to me, my point is that through RP's campaign MANY people that I know personally became aware of a helluva lot of things that they weren't before. Once you get on the road, you will continue down it finding more and more truth as you go along. I honestly think his campaign was a success.


Great, the Alex Jones defense. "But he woke me up," or "he woke up friends, etc.."

Come on Nordic, I expected you to have a better understanding of the different facets of controlled opposition.

What have I done?

If I ran for president or served in government for decades you can ask that question.

So, if you or any other Paul supporter can please answer the question I wrote above it would be appreciated.

"In 30+ years what has Ron Paul done to bring positive change to the country? "

I don't hate Paul, he's had some great speeches and such. However, he hasnot served much more of a purpose other than pressure release valve for those not asleep at the wheel.





You didn't mention a frat but you alluded to I am me's post which was solely about a frat.

Again if this is common knowledge about him being a mason than post up real links. If someone asks me about AJ being controlled opposition I can post up probably 10 links in a few minutes b/c the info is there.

I did answer what Paul has done, he has woken many people up. The difference between him an AJ is AJ does everything in his power to misdirect people from looking into the jews, I've NEVER seen paul do that. He might not name them himself but he doesn't say stupid shit like "arabs control hollywood" like AJ does.

My question to you, what could you do differently if you were him as far as being a member of Congress. He has been the sole no vote more times than every other congressman combined, so he doesn't vote with them. I'm just curious as to what more 1 congressman can do, he brings forth good legislation, grants a lot of interviews, makes good speeches from the floor, writes good books. My main complaint is that he isn't very vocal about israel like Jim Traficant, or Paul Craig Roberts, however his voting record is still pretty damn good from what I've seen.

[chad]

i got banned by gkahn for 2 weeks on GIM once for going down this road.

[FunnyMoney]

The thing about controlled opposition is that it is not required to know that you are being controlled to still be just that, controlled opposition. RP serves a purpose. He said he would abolish the IRS and the CB. Roll back govt and return to the kind of military and federal systems that the founders had envisioned. TPTB need somebody to say what nobody is supposed to believe. But they also know saying is a long way from doing. All bases have been covered. I don't think rolling back the cenralized systems is going to work. Either people move out of the matrix or they don't. From what I see the flock will still move where to wolf sends them.

[sirgonzo420]

The thing about controlled opposition is that it is not required to know that you are being controlled to still be just that, controlled opposition. RP serves a purpose. He said he would abolish the IRS and the CB. Roll back govt and return to the kind of military and federal systems that the founders had envisioned. TPTB need somebody to say what nobody is supposed to believe. But they also know saying is a long way from doing. All bases have been covered. I don't think rolling back the cenralized systems is going to work. Either people move out of the matrix or they don't. From what I see the flock will still move where to wolf sends them.


Bingo.

[hoarder]

My grandpa is a 32nd degree mason, and I get the impression that I know more about masonry than he does...

There are certainly evil masons, but there are many "porch masons" too.

And there are people who just use freemasonry to "network" with people.

Freemasonry itself, I believe is evil, but not every mason is.

The Federal Reserve System is evil, but not everybody with a FRN in their pocket is.
This post makes sense, but when someone is very influential he is not a porch Mason. Influence is a very closely guarded commodity, no one accidentally acquires it and clumsily holds it.

[sirgonzo420]

My grandpa is a 32nd degree mason, and I get the impression that I know more about masonry than he does...

There are certainly evil masons, but there are many "porch masons" too.

And there are people who just use freemasonry to "network" with people.

Freemasonry itself, I believe is evil, but not every mason is.

The Federal Reserve System is evil, but not everybody with a FRN in their pocket is.
This post makes sense, but when someone is very influential he is not a porch Mason. Influence is a very closely guarded commodity, no one accidentally acquires it and clumsily holds it.


Point taken.

I was just trying to note that "mason" is not ALWAYS synonymous with "evil".

[Serpo]

i got banned by gkahn for 2 weeks on GIM once for going down this road.


Ah the good ol days ;D

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Yes, Ron Paul is a Freemason. He's also the least evil person in Government. Take what you can get at this point. Don't you know that EVERYTHING is an old boys club?

[Grand Master Melon]

That is reaching to say the least OP.

So they claim Ron Paul was a member of a frat during college. Then they have ties to the frat leader to being a "master" mason. Yet I fail to see the link between Ron Paul and freemasonry.

It's like saying since you were a member of GIM and GIM was started by skyvike who is a high level mason, that means you are a mason even though you don't belong to a lodge or have anything to do with them.

Pretty damn weak argument. My question is why do you go out of your way to attack Ron Paul? Do I get pissed as hell when he calls kik estan our "ally" sure. However he also vote against aid and against sanctions on iran, against doing israels bidding in the mideast so I don't really see how his voting record falls in line with zionism whatsoever.


Anyone who thinks Ron Paul has their best interests at heart is a numbskull of the first degree. I was close enough to the national campaign to know the score.


And we're supposed to believe you, someone who is obviously a mason due to his connection to the Ron Paul campaign?

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

GrandMaster Melon, were you on GiM1 around the time of the 2008 campaign? Many, many, many of our board members were personally involved in the Ron Paul campaign, and after he gave up halfway through without a fight, many of those same board members came forward to state that they think he threw the campaign on purpose. IAMIAF is one of those individuals who first postulated the theory that Ron Paul is not workign for us.


So yes, I'd say, believe IAMIAF.

[I am me, I am free]

Anosognosia is alive and well on this thread. lol

[Grand Master Melon]

GrandMaster Melon, were you on GiM1 around the time of the 2008 campaign? Many, many, many of our board members were personally involved in the Ron Paul campaign, and after he gave up halfway through without a fight, many of those same board members came forward to state that they think he threw the campaign on purpose. IAMIAF is one of those individuals who first postulated the theory that Ron Paul is not workign for us.


So yes, I'd say, believe IAMIAF.


I don't know if he threw the campaign but I do know the campaign tanked big time. I figure it had more to do with him being surrounded by idiots but who knows. Seeing how that BS was run made me wonder how he was ever elected to any office.

[philo beddoe]

I started a thread here in the first days talking about RP being controlled opposition.

Rand Paul has a bilderberger on his team, also providing financial support.

Ron Paul's family is connected to Mason only organizations as I Am Me... wrote above. That much is documented.

What good has Ron Paul done other than talk - what changes has he brought to fruition?


He is completely worthless. People listen to him as a diversionary valve. White nationalists say many of the things Paul says, and before Paul said them.

How much can one congressman do though?

He might be controlled op, but he hasn't been completely worthless.

[dysgenic]

I believe that RP is a high level mason, and that he is a very bad guy. The worst of the bad guys are guys like RP... tough to spot, fully cognizant and participatory in intricate deception, and willing to pretend to be something that they hate. You don't have to worry about the Percivals and Juristic Persons of this world, you have to worry about the Genghis Khans (read: Skyvike's 'worshipful master'). The tougher they are to spot and the more principled that they appear at first blush, the worse they are.

I also believe that a true RP like candidate would never have gotten a sniff at a Presidential campaign. They'd be destroyed in the press most likely, or failing that, killed. I found that Lebron James vid VERY interesting. I've never liked Lebron James. I've also never liked Alex Rodriguez. I know it's impossible to get anywhere in politics without being tied into the illuminati, I wonder if that is true in entertainment, and how true it is in sports. It seems that there is nothing out there that hasn't been compromised.

[iOWNme]

GrandMaster Melon, were you on GiM1 around the time of the 2008 campaign? Many, many, many of our board members were personally involved in the Ron Paul campaign, and after he gave up halfway through without a fight, many of those same board members came forward to state that they think he threw the campaign on purpose. IAMIAF is one of those individuals who first postulated the theory that Ron Paul is not workign for us.


So yes, I'd say, believe IAMIAF.


Thank you for that clarification....

And when it comes to RP, sadly, he is merely the Antithesis to the current system. While i agree with a lot of what he says, he is a piece of the Hegelian Dialectic pie. Once sliced and served up he will help produce the new Synthesis, a social change to a new accepted standard Thesis.

The only problem is it will unknowingly be a more tight, ratcheted down, consolidated version of the prior system. Obviously done under the guise of 'Safety and Freedom'.

[Twisted Titan]

I believe that RP is a high level mason, and that he is a very bad guy. The worst of the bad guys are guys like RP... tough to spot, fully cognizant and participatory in intricate deception, and willing to pretend to be something that they hate. You don't have to worry about the Percivals and Juristic Persons of this world, you have to worry about the Genghis Khans (read: Skyvike's 'worshipful master'). The tougher they are to spot and the more principled that they appear at first blush, the worse they are.

I also believe that a true RP like candidate would never have gotten a sniff at a Presidential campaign. They'd be destroyed in the press most likely, or failing that, killed. I found that Lebron James vid VERY interesting. I've never liked Lebron James. I've also never liked Alex Rodriguez. I know it's impossible to get anywhere in politics without being tied into the illuminati, I wonder if that is true in entertainment, and how true it is in sports. It seems that there is nothing out there that hasn't been compromised.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX-xVN0xERk

[G2Rad]

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[kregener]

My grandpa is a 32nd degree mason, and I get the impression that I know more about masonry than he does...

There are certainly evil masons, but there are many "porch masons" too.

And there are people who just use freemasonry to "network" with people.

Freemasonry itself, I believe is evil, but not every mason is.

The Federal Reserve System is evil, but not everybody with a FRN in their pocket is.


If this logic does not reach him...nothing will.

[JJ.G0ldD0t]

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[Celtic Rogue]

WOW I am so glad that we have these professional campaign analysis posters! Without them I wouldnt know how bad Dr. Paul is! LOL (sarcasm as if needed) I will vote for him hands down the best man for our country at this time. He can win and will win if everyone of you nay sayers would stop with the MSM talking points and get on board and pass the word to those who dont know. Dr. Pauls voting record is unwavering in his Constitutionally correct stances. Insted of dwelling on what he might be or not be... focus on what he is... an unwavering light of truth in a sea of flotsam!

[Hatha Sunahara]

So, if RP is a Mason, and his wife is an Eastern Star and his kids are Rainbows, why does the MSM ignore him? Why did they go out of their way to give him no attention at all for his great performance in Iowa? I doubt that he is a 33 degree Mason.

The way the establishment treats him, and his sensible approach to national problems makes him a far more interesting and attractive politician than ALL the other people running.

If he wins, I doubt that he will be able to pursue all the policy points he has laid out in his campaign because the world is run by the people who contrpl the money--not the politicians. My problem is not with Ron Paul's agenda, but with the fact that the whole political (and economic) system is a sham, and no matter who you vote for, you will get the same thing--what TPTB want--not what the people want.


Hatha

[mick silver]

Do you now see why TV news is so dangerous?

[Veni, vidi...evigilavi!]

Insted of dwelling on what he might be or not be... focus on what he is... an unwavering light of truth in a sea of flotsam!


So, if RP is a Mason, and his wife is an Eastern Star and his kids are Rainbows, why does the MSM ignore him? Why did they go out of their way to give him no attention at all for his great performance in Iowa? ...... My problem is not with Ron Paul's agenda, but with the fact that the whole political (and economic) system is a sham, and no matter who you vote for, you will get the same thing--what TPTB want--not what the people want.
Hatha
You two have pretty much summed everything up in the above statements. True C.O. receives attention and support like guess who...umm Barry, the Bushes and those before them. Like some of you stated, I've met some freemasons that don't even know how deep that idea goes. I doubt R.paul, if he were to be elected, that he would turn his back on the American people due to being CO, unless his family received threats, in which case he would probably prefer resignation(or other).

[wrs]

Who cares? He is a politician and anyone who puts any faith in politics or politicians is delusional.

[Bigjon]

Well I don't give a damn, if Ron Paul is controlled opposition, my main reason for supporting RP is IT'S THE MESSAGE THAT COUNTS.

His message, if it gets spread far enough, will light a fire in the hearts of our young people and even if he doesn't carry through, someone else will.

[Neuro]

Well I don't give a damn, if Ron Paul is controlled opposition, my main reason for supporting RP is IT'S THE MESSAGE THAT COUNTS.

His message, if it gets spread far enough, will light a fire in the hearts of our young people and even if he doesn't carry through, someone else will.
Good point, if indeed RP is controlled opposition, what he says does open peoples minds to the lies everyone else in the circuit is telling. So if he is not for real the PTB is playing with fire, and once a critical mass is reached they will get burned.

However RP's actions as a hypothetical president doing what he says he is going to do, would indeed unsettle the house of cards society is built upon, and speed up its collapse, and RP's ideas will be blamed, allthough it is the builders of the house of cards that are at blame...

You really can't successfully unwind a late Ponzi scheme, but you can put the blame on someone else. And if it sticks, it mwy take a very long time, if ever, before history has forgiven. Thus the schemers are back in business rinsing and repeating

[Nitz]

http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-08-25/bruce-fein-joins-ron-paul-2012-campaign/

[goldleaf]

Do the jews and masons work together, or do they each have different goals? Its common knowledge that many of the founding fathers were masons and its these people that RP is enamored with.