Breaking News Military Men Moving There own Families Now!!!! Snowplows Ready To

[Serpo]

Breaking News Military Men Moving There own Families Now!!!! Snowplows Ready To Remove Abandoned Vehicles from Highways When Evacuations Occur



Snowplows Ready To Remove Abandoned Vehicles from Highways When Evacuations Occur
Greg Evenson

It has been approximately three weeks since former State Trooper and Secret Service appointee Greg Evenson appeared on The Waterman Files to discuss what his inside sources are telling him about the situation in and around the Gulf of Mexico. Today, Evenson discussed and updated the situation with John

”Greg Evenson stated that it was suggested to him by University of Texas researchers that four to five weeks ago (which he described in a broadcast on May 27th) that there were reports from the U.S. Geological Service that an earthquake was precipitated at eleven miles below the ocean floor when drilling at the Deepwater Horizon site went as deep as thirty thousand feet – not the deepest well on earth, but the deepest ever penetrated into such a major source deposit of [this type of] oil, which is why it is coming up red and radioactive. The reports from the U.S.G.S. indicated that this earthquake may have fractured the ocean floor which would explain the oil seeps at seven to twenty-eight miles away that may not be coming from the drill site at all, but by cracks in the ocean floor caused by this and the giant deposit.

Evenson, discussing the problem with separating fact from fiction when determining the situation in the affected regions stated that, “The time for silliness and… extraordinary statements that have no basis… really need to be called out of the debate because we are losing time, we’re losing ground every moment. It may be [entertainment] to some, but to others it is deadly serious business, and I mean deadly serious…”

There have been suggestions that the oil rigs – all operations in the Gulf of Mexico – will be shut down. A video is making it’s way around the internet of Pensacola Florida with methane boiling out of the water, said to be a million times more in some areas, one hundred thousand in some areas, than anything close to normal. Those amounts of methane being released are the equivalent of twenty times more than the carbon dioxide typically being released into the atmosphere from automobiles, etc.

Various scientists have postulated that this uncontrolled, massive release of toxins is going to cause extreme phenomenon around the globe, including major fluctuations in climate causing super storms similar to those in the Hollywood movie “The Day After” that are going to be mind boggling. In response to this scenario, Evenson says, “That is absolutely correct, and add to that the absolute disaster that is taking place before our eyes with this overspray, this incredible overspray of Corexit that is causing damage. I’ve seen pictures of it supplied to me… of these crops and trees and other things withering under this continuing assault. As if it’s not enough that B.P. has created all of this problem, now they have created a secondary and a third problem with the debilitation of infrastructure and crops and so-forth from the spraying of this horrible Corexit.”

“Snow plows are being readied to go up and down the interstate highways in the middle of summer moving stranded vehicles off the road when evacuations begin.” Evenson implored people to not panic, and to simply prepare ahead so that they can move out of harms way before the crush of a full evacuation has begun.” - Greg Evenson

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EDIT: Changed long link to named link to prevent horizontal scrolling. -Gaillo

[Heimdhal]

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Thanks for the new info. Something to look into.

[Serpo]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/gulf-oil-disaster/worst-case-scenario-8245/?topicseen

going on at link above already. ;)


OK thanks ,ive changed the post now....to some thing totally different

[Heimdhal]

Ill add that my wife and I were looking at going in our around central Tennessee as way to escape this, somehwere south of nashville, in one of the quiter towns. We arent concrete on that, its just one of the places we were looking at more seriously.

If some of this is true, like crops being killed off etc, I fear that may not be far enough away from the gulf. Definitley something to keep an eye on I guess. :-\

[Serpo]

Ill add that my wife and I were looking at going in our around central Tennessee as way to escape this, somehwere south of nashville, in one of the quiter towns. We arent concrete on that, its just one of the places we were looking at more seriously.

If some of this is true, like crops being killed off etc, I fear that may not be far enough away from the gulf. Definitley something to keep an eye on I guess. :-\


what do you think they are trying to say about the earth quake thing ,that it was going to happen anyway?

[Liquid]

Ill add that my wife and I were looking at going in our around central Tennessee as way to escape this, somehwere south of nashville, in one of the quiter towns. We arent concrete on that, its just one of the places we were looking at more seriously.

If some of this is true, like crops being killed off etc, I fear that may not be far enough away from the gulf. Definitley something to keep an eye on I guess. :-\


Heimdhal, for the folks like myself who are nowhere near the gulf....what can we do to help folks in Florida? This question has been on my mind.

[Quantum]

THIS IS NOT CREDIBLE.

Evenson has the "credibility" of Sorcha Fail.

[Defender]

Ill add that my wife and I were looking at going in our around central Tennessee as way to escape this, somehwere south of nashville, in one of the quiter towns. We arent concrete on that, its just one of the places we were looking at more seriously.

If some of this is true, like crops being killed off etc, I fear that may not be far enough away from the gulf. Definitley something to keep an eye on I guess. :-\


Heimdhal, for the folks like myself who are nowhere near the gulf....what can we do to help folks in Florida? This question has been on my mind.


+1 ,
it has been on my mind as well, would like to help also. But being in Canada gives me very few options.
A start would be helping to vet everything that is posted. The verified stuff is bad enough. These people posting every bit of conjecture and outright crap - sometimes 2 or 3 times (even by the same person!) makes things down here even more stressful and makes it harder to recognize what truly is relevant.

An example is some guy who's posts have been cited as fact on this board. His byline is "Florida News Service." I tried to run it down. Best I can tell, it appears to be something this guy "created" to give himself an air of legitimacy.

[DMac]

THIS IS NOT CREDIBLE.

Evenson has the "credibility" of Sorcha Fail.


Sorcha fall or Steve Quayle, take your pic as Evenson is right there with them.

From every engineering or scientific based site I've read the hole is 18k feet deep. Anytime there is a mention of 30k feet I know we are dealing with someone that has not done their research.

The 30k foot hole was the well DWH operated over prior to the Macondo project.

Fear mongering at its finest.

[Heimdhal]

To those asking about ways to help, I woudl highly concur with Defenders position first and foremost.

For those of us in the gulf, its a big deal. Mostly because we are doomer types, so its immediatley going to be first and foremost in our minds, but also because we can see this change our lives as we know it, maybe not tomorrow or the next day but most certainly down the road.

Having good information will greatly help those in gulf, not just us on this board, be able to make better decisions. its not easy task to say "yeah, Im gonna pack up and leave everything, to wander into to some uncertain terrain, in an uncertain time while the world is collapsing around me." The more we know, the easier it is. The problem is, no one is getting their information straight, between BP, the Coast Guard, private contract clean up crews, the fishermen. And everyone has an agenda.

The next big thing is to offer your time or knowledge. Its no secret at least 5 of us on this board that live in Florida are leaving, or planning on leaving here shortly. We have had quite an astounding amount of support behind the scenes from what I understand. That network is the most important thing we could have, IMO.

Things like using your own network to help others find a job, or a decent place to live, or even helping them decide which towns are good, which should be avoided, or which areas, or saying "hey I've got a buddy whos been trying to rent a place out, maybe we can work something out for you./"

And on that front we've had quite a bit of support as well. I know for me personaly, my biggest thing is finding work when we leave. even something thats temporary and pays crap would be better, as it would afford me the time to cover my expenses, moving, rent, etc, until I could get a better feel for the town and find something more premanent.

For those leaving in RV's it might be something as simple as offering a place to park the RV for a few days, or a week so they can continue their work, or have a place to rest and refil that wont charge them as much as a campgroudn or RV park.

Anyways, these are just things off the top of MY head. Some of the others may feel different. ;)

[Bullfrog]

How many snowplows does Florida own? I lived in Ft Pierce when I was a kid, and only saw snow once, and even then it melted before it hit the ground.

As for military people moving their families out of the gulf area. The title of the article has a bit of sensationalism to it.
What Greg says... "those who I've spoken to".
He has been wrong many times about stuff in the past.

Don't let this guy cause any panic in your life. Stay calm and rational.

[Liquid]

Heimdhal, if any RV'ers need a stove/oven, I've got one listed in the member trading area. It's yours if you want it, no cost. It's all the way out in CA though, just taking up space and I don't need it. Would be happy to see it go to a good home.

I could also help out with temporary parking for RV, use of my marina facilities laundry/shower, etc...and quite possibly some temporary work through my company. It's blue collar work, but fun and exciting, and just depends upon how busy we are.

PM me for details if you find yourself out my way.

[Carbon]

How many snowplows does Florida own?



The lowely, ubiquitous skidloader would be much better than any dump truck/plow configuration - or even a bulldozer - in moving most cars off the road. They're smaller and would be easier to navigate thru snarled traffic, or being able to go off-road and skirt around it.

I agree with many posters here - the OP is a bit sensationalistic.

[Ash_Williams]

First... they have snowplows down there?

Second... snowplows? Yeah they can be big, but they can't plow cars off a road, one after another, at a safe speed.

The way to do it would be to use one of the large machines from a metal yard with the electromagnet. Or a tank with a plow.

[Serpo]

THIS IS NOT CREDIBLE.

Evenson has the "credibility" of Sorcha Fail.


That bad huh.........

[Heimdhal]

Heimdhal, if any RV'ers need a stove/oven, I've got one listed in the member trading area. It's yours if you want it, no cost. It's all the way out in CA though, just taking up space and I don't need it. Would be happy to see it go to a good home.

I could also help out with temporary parking for RV, use of my marina facilities laundry/shower, etc...and quite possibly some temporary work through my company. It's blue collar work, but fun and exciting, and just depends upon how busy we are.

PM me for details if you find yourself out my way.


Thanks for the offer brother. I wont be in an RV, but some will and Im sure theyll read this and get back to you if they need. I wont point out who is doing what for obvious reasons, thats for them to disclose publicaly, but Im sure they appareciate the consideration.

As for me, I woudlnt touch california with a 10 foot pole, not again, but I will keep it in mind! :P

[I am me, I am free]

THIS IS NOT CREDIBLE.

Evenson has the "credibility" of Sorcha Fail.


Sorcha fall or Steve Quayle, take your pic as Evenson is right there with them.

From every engineering or scientific based site I've read the hole is 18k feet deep. Anytime there is a mention of 30k feet I know we are dealing with someone that has not done their research.

The 30k foot hole was the well DWH operated over prior to the Macondo project.

Fear mongering at its finest.




There aren't any snowplows south of Omaha. lol

[Serpo]

I received this note: “Thanks for the Gulf update! But you forgot one important recommendation – MOVE OUT OF THERE IMMEDIATELY! Pack up your wife and kids and get the heck out of there NOW!!! Many already in those Gulf States are being slowly poisoned, but now with the new storm or anyone storm yet to come they will get well oiled and gassed with many, many VOCs from the heavy rain and wind. People need to get out of there! Curious don’t you think that with all they know, all the articles and news about people getting ill, crops and landscapes dying inland from the toxic rain falling there in the last few weeks, that there has been NO mass exodus of people leaving those affected areas?”

Kind of extreme don’t you think? Don’t you think it’s better to wait for an evacuation order from the government? I don’t think so because if you wait for the government to warn about dangerous toxic exposures you are waiting on an organization famous for allowing industry, doctors and dentists to expose the public to massive amounts of chemicals and heavy metals. Sorry to be a spoiler on a holiday weekend but it is really not time to party and relax; it’s time to make plans to deal with an emergency the likes of which has never been seen.

Below you will see three map overlays tracking complaints from the oil disaster since its beginnings and you can see how the effects are spreading. And it will keep spreading and spreading out as the toxic tidal situation slowly spreads its wings and takes flight in the atmosphere.

oil-spill-map-1.jpg
End of April

oil-spill-map-2.jpg
End of May

oil-spill-map-3.jpg
End of June

The oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico will gradually find its way toward
Europe and the Arctic to damage and endanger wider ecological areas.

Dr. Shira Kramer, an epidemiologist who has conducted research for the petroleum industry on the health consequences of exposure to petroleum, said she is concerned that the risks are being downplayed. “It’s completely scientifically dishonest to pooh-pooh the potential here when you are talking about some of the most toxic chemicals that we know.”

“Oil is a complex mixture containing substances like benzene, heavy metals, arsenic, and polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons – all known to cause human health problems such as cancer, birth defects or miscarriages,” said Kenneth Olden, founding dean of New York’s CUNY School of Public Health at Hunter College, who is monitoring a panel on possible delayed effects. “The potential here is huge and we have to be diligent about protecting the public health and these workers.”

The greatest threat is from the poison that species-killing
storms will soon be churning over Gulf cities, pouring
degraded oil and dispersants everywhere the rain falls.

The government has not been providing the news people are looking for, and the mainstream media seems to have gone blind in recent days, airing less specific information about the crisis even as the crisis continues to expand and more and more oil and toxic chemicals are leaked into the sea, land and air. Perhaps the government is being kind by sparing its people disturbance and stress. David Ike said, “The potential magnitude of what is unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico simply cannot be overstated. It is far, far worse than is being admitted, and what we are allowed to see is catastrophic enough.”

http://intotheashes.imva.info/?p=367

[old steel]

I'd say the best piece of equipment to make a path on any roadway that was blocked with vehicles would be a V-blade mounted on a heavy piece of equipment like a bulldozer, grader etc.

Wouldn't clear everything off the road but a drivable path would be created in the quickest possible way.

[Bull_Rides_Bear]

A snow plow is a dump-truck with a steel blade mounted up front. IMO, this truck could push a typical passenger sedan or SUV out of the way, at slow speed, but wouldn't have a chance dozing larger commercial vehicles that would equal or exceed its mass.

The poorly written alert is also a give-away that it's probably bogus IMO.

[gunDriller]

http://www.lonesentry.com/ordnance/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/heavy-snow-plow-typek.jpg

i found this pic of an antique snowplow.

i think a snowplow with a decent torque-y engine and the right blade could clear enough of the road to make it passable.

and for those immovable objects ...

http://bhavanajagat.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/made-in-china-hand-grenade.jpg

[UncaScrooge]

THIS IS NOT CREDIBLE.

Evenson has the "credibility" of Sorcha Fail.


AGREE 100%.

And I've noticed over the recent days/weeks that Serpo seems to specialize in posting incredibly outrageous doomsday posts. That's OK if you're into movies and such... and fantasyland.

Why not focus on REAL disasters... Like Obamalama and Pelosi and Reed trying to take this country down the toilet???

[Book]

AGREE 100%.

And I've noticed over the recent days/weeks that Serpo seems to specialize in posting incredibly outrageous doomsday posts. That's OK if you're into movies and such... and fantasyland.

Why not focus on REAL disasters...



They are getting sick of the incredibly outrageous doomsday posts over at LATOC in this thread (http://www.doomers.us/forum2/index.php/topic,71007.0.html) too.

:)

[StackerKen]

from another forum
His credibility took the 1,000 foot dive into a pile of BS at the beginning of either 2008 or 2009 with "the Feds are coming to kill 50 million gun owners within 45 days", and took another 1,000 foot dive into HS (this time) when he was front and center stage fear mongering about "road blocks and mandatory flu vaccines" during the "flu event".

I remember some at GIM were buying that latter one :oo-->

[Serpo]

THIS IS NOT CREDIBLE.

Evenson has the "credibility" of Sorcha Fail.


AGREE 100%.

And I've noticed over the recent days/weeks that Serpo seems to specialize in posting incredibly outrageous doomsday posts. That's OK if you're into movies and such... and fantasyland.

Why not focus on REAL disasters... Like Obamalama and Pelosi and Reed trying to take this country down the toilet???



Trying to take America down the toilet ,its way too late for that,its already been flushed............http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/lying-to-the-stupid-goyim-right-in-their-face/


You want something more uplifting

[wallew]

Sorcha fall or Steve Quayle, take your pic as Evenson is right there with them. From every engineering or scientific based site I've read the hole is 18k feet deep. Anytime there is a mention of 30k feet I know we are dealing with someone that has not done their research.

The 30k foot hole was the well DWH operated over prior to the Macondo project. Fear mongering at its finest.

First and FOREMOST, you are completely incorrect. 18,000 FT is the INTERSECTION DEPTH of the two 'relief wells' currently being drilled.

Secondly, I believe I have already posted this here, but perhaps not.

This is from a family friend who has been in the oil business for my whole life and I'm 57. He's known my parents since THEY were all young. In their 80's now. Here is what HE SAYS.

This was AS OF A WEEK AGO THURSDAY.

==========================

Gents,

Am still going back and forth to Dallas keeping my toe in the oil business. However, fortunately, I am working on a deepwater project in offshore Ghana and will not be sticking my toe into the Gulf of Mexico . Thus, I will still miss the Thursday luncheons for the foreseeable future.

I know many of you are curious as to what is going on in the Gulf, as I am sure you are aware the politicians and press are not well informed and have no interest to be well informed. I have attached a MS Word file with a sketch of the two relief wells which are being drilled as fast as they can to "kill" the blowout well - Macondo #1. It is a good status of the two wells, one of which is closing in on the blowout. When I finish my Dallas gig, I will do a lunch presentation on the incident.

Also, let me share some statistics and personal thoughts which can put this well into perspective.

a. The U.S. has more than 525,000 producing oil wells in the country. With about 5 million barrels per day produced in the U.S. , this means that the average well in the U.S. produces less than 10 barrels per day and included in that average are prolific wells in Alaska and the Gulf which are capable of producing much more. I would bet the median oil rate of a U.S. well is less than 3 barrels per day. More than 31% of the oil wells in the U.S. according to the DOE produce less than one barrel per day!

b. With the Macondo well belching an estimated 40,000 to 50,000 barrels per day means the Macondo well is capable of flowing more than 4,000 to 5,000 average wells in the U.S! Is there no surprise that fields like this one are the prize being sought after by the industry which cannot drill in shallow waters or much of anywhere in the U.S. anymore? This one well produces about 1% of the entire U.S. production rate and is most likely the most productive well in the country! And probably one of the most productive wells in the world. It is too bad that this field will most likely never be produced following shutting and abandoning the Macondo #1 blowout.

c. The only way the Macondo well can be stopped is by intersecting the well with the relief wells being drilled now. If the "junk shot" or "top kill" method would have stopped the flow or the blowout preventer finally closed, the pressured oil would have just ruptured the shallow geological formations and oil would have been coming up in geysers all over the place for miles and then the only way to stop the flow would have been to allow the reservoir to deplete. And this could have been years! Thus, it is a "good" thing that the "top kill" failed.

d. This next statistic is not to bash our president; but to put things into perspective: When Air Force One is in the air, it consumes jet fuel (which incidentally comes from the Gulf of Mexico ) at the rate of 5 gallons per mile as indicated in data released by the govt. And anywhere the pres goes, there are at least two jets of equal size carrying his cars, golf carts, secret service, guests, press, etc. If you make the calculations, this means that when the president takes a junket in Air Force One, he and his entourage are consuming the entire oil production of approximate 450 average oil wells in the U.S. !

e. Tony Hayward, the beaten down CEO of BP, is a friend of mine who I worked with on our project in Colombia in 1994-1997. He was the Exploration Manager for BP's Bogota office. He has a phD in geoscience with highest honors and has more 28 years experience in technical and management positions with BP, which is a heck of a lot more applicable to his job than community organizing. It would be impossible for him to know the level of detail of what happened on that rig; and Rep. Waxman's questioning just revealed the U.S. government's requirement to place personal blame and focus on something other than the administrations failings on a number of fronts. I contend that the pollution in the Gulf is horrific; but the Gulf will recover. However, the government's overreach into the oil industry as a result of the incident will do more harm to the country in the long run. Waxman et. al. will deal more harm to the country which will never be cleaned up. My advice to Tony Hayward when he met with the congressional panel, and his other public appearances, would have been to have a good speech writer and use a teleprompter. That way he could have kept his foot out of his mouth and look more like a competent chief executive.

f. The blowout was clearly caused by human error and an unintentional accident and combination of unforeseen failures of protective devises which all have levels of redundancy. It is very analogous to the loss of the space shuttle Challenger which was destroyed because of seal failure of the solid fuel rocket booster. When that happened, in spite of engineer in Morton Thiokol (manufacturer of the solid fuel booster) pleading to stop the launch following freezing weather at the launch pad; I did not see the head of NASA butchered in front of Congress and asked to jump on a sword. BP has assured everybody that all legitimate claims will be honored; but I heard today that a homeowner was asking reimbursement for loss of home value as surely his failure to sell his home is the fault of BP. Am sure the hookers in New Orleans will charge BP for the loss of income from the rig workers who will be unemployed for six months. How much of the $20 billion will go to ACORN? Will be interesting to follow this money trail........

Cheers, Dick

================================

PLEASE NOTE THIS GENT IS INVOLVED IN A DEEPWATER PROJECT OFFSHORE GHANA. If you KNOW the oil industry, you KNOW that it takes several BILLION DOLLARS to build a deepwater platform to drill from and CURRENTLY there are none under construction (that I've been able to find at least).

It can take UP to three months PREP with 'boots on the ground' to line up all the NEW oilfield workers, supplies, etc, etc, etc. And it COST MILLIONS IN PREP and I believe roughly $10M to move it and depending on WHERE it's going it CAN take up to a month to arrive. Another week or so to get it operational.

To drill in GHANA means deepwater platforms. CURRENTLY there are none available. But this guy's project is going full speed ahead. Which means HIS COMPANY is spending BIG BUCKS to be ready.

Seems to me that those 32 deepwater platforms are about to be relocated someplace else because the president is going to shut them down. That means he's about to cease production of 1/3 of the US oil production, which comes from the Gulf.

THINK ABOUT THAT. A SITTING PRESIDENT IS REMOVING 1/3 OF DOMESTIC OIL ENERGY FROM OUR USAGE. SO HIS BUDDIES CAN PROFIT.

It is indeed a sad day.

Oh, also from my family friend - note this graphic was run in the 'Times/ Picayune' and is presented as FROM BP...

[JohnQPublic]

Thanks, wallew, great report.

[wallew]

Here is the BP animation OF the graphic above and it's posted ON our site:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/relief-well-overview-and-ranging-animation-with-kent-wells-27-june-2010/

[DMac]

Wallew why do you claim I am completely incorrect and then post an image that shows I was right?? You make no sense!

[BrewTech]

Wallew why do you claim I am completely incorrect and then post an image that shows I was right?? You make no sense!






Dude knows everything worth knowing. Haven't you heard?

It's only right if HE says it.

[LuckyStrike]

I'm in Florida, for those that want to help silver is accepted.

On a serious note, I'm about a 2 out of 10 concerned about the oil. (10 being highest) It's bad for the ecosystem no doubt, but other than that I'm not seeing a major disaster here. I tend to be a conspiracy theorist and doomsdayer but on this one I'm just not seeing it.

[wallew]

NO, IT DOES NOT SHOW THAT.

Nor does the video posted in the OTHER thread.

What it shows is they are ATTEMPTING to hit the drilled well pipe AT 18000 feet.

The well goes much further down than that. That's only marginally lower than three miles. What I've been reading is this well didn't hit oil until going down right at 5 miles. That's more like 26000 feet.

WHAT, you expect this TO SCALE?

YEAH. RIGHT... :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:


You ARE aware that those graphics are produced by BP's PR department, RIGHT?

And they will go to extreme lengths to make BP LOOK GOOD...

Oh, do you guys WORK for BP or the oil company? Didn't think so.

And how many of your family friends ARE STILL IN THE OIL BUSINESS for more than 60 years? What was that? NONE.

Yeah, kinda what I thought.

But hey, keyboard cowboy AWAY...

They SHOW THE OIL LAYER AS LESS THAN 1000 feet in depth.

THIS IS DEFINITELY INCORRECT. The depth of this reservoir is supposed to be (LIKE I SAID) between 7000 and 10000 feet DEEP and one of the LARGEST oil deposits in the area. And it's under GREAT PRESSURE.

But hey, you guys got me beat by a mile.

[StackerKen]

I'm in Florida, for those that want to help silver is accepted.

On a serious note, I'm about a 2 out of 10 concerned about the oil. (10 being highest) It's bad for the ecosystem no doubt, but other than that I'm not seeing a major disaster here. I tend to be a conspiracy theorist and doomsdayer but on this one I'm just not seeing it.


Very interesting Thanks for you thoughts Nordic
Im a skeptic on this also. but I'm in Ca. so I can afford to be skeptical.

Still, all the "fear mongering" kinda urks me a bit. Then again that might be a mistake on my part. It just that so many times folks have cried "wolf" and "the sky is falling"

I don't think Millions of people are going to die from this...Millions of fish...Maybe

[Defender]

I'm in Florida, for those that want to help silver is accepted.

On a serious note, I'm about a 2 out of 10 concerned about the oil. (10 being highest) It's bad for the ecosystem no doubt, but other than that I'm not seeing a major disaster here. I tend to be a conspiracy theorist and doomsdayer but on this one I'm just not seeing it.
Hi Nordic. I'm glad I'm not the only one down here who doesn't think everyone in Florida is going to be killed by billowing clouds of poisonous gas. Or that black rain is going to turn everything south of the Mason-Dixon line into a wasteland.

But when it seems almost everyone else is screaming "you're gonna die" it's hard to not start doubting your own gut feeling on something.

I'm waiting on those releif wells which I'm giving a 70-80% chance of working. If they fail, then I'll reassess the threat-level, maybe up to a 5. When you have roots it's impossible to bug-out at every possible warning sign If you do, you'll always be on the run.

Now, about all those CAT-5'ers that are going to hit us this year... ;D

[wallew]

I did find James Carville crying "WE'RE DYING DOWN HERE" some what pathetic.

Especially when he's supposed to be some big mover and shaker with the Dems.

Maybe not so much now.

And only time will tell if this is or is not correct.

You are aware that the sea floor they are drilling into is basically fairly soft rock. There are reports of leaks up from this particular well site as much as 26 miles away with oil just leaking out of the sea floor bed. There is another leak reported about ten miles from the blown platform.

While something hasn't happened YET, don't discount it completely.

This sounds like all those folks who 'weren't that worried about Katrina', saying they had lived there whole lives there and had lived through numerous hurricanes in the past.

So, tell me. How did THAT work out for those that stayed? Especially those right along the water from LA to FL. Not so well. There are places that will NEVER be rebuilt back to their former status.

[chad]

I'm currently in Orlando, was in Tampa this past weekend, wiill be in ft pierce this weekend. I haven't seen or heard anything here. People don't even seem to be remotely concerned about it, at least not out in the open anyway...

[Liquid]

But when it seems almost everyone else is screaming "you're gonna die" it's hard to not start doubting your own gut feeling on something.

This is how people are their own worst enemy, falling in line with the mass panic that can easily be ignited.

Everything in life is dynamic, constantly changing...sometimes for the good, sometimes for the bad....and the internet is a great tool for people to promote their own personal objective.

I am a firm believe of trusting 'gut' feelings, but it's extremely important to be objective and just focus on facts. Remaining calm in crisis situations can be the difference bewteen life and death.