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Tinman
5th July 2010, 08:33 PM
Rage Against the Machine

A modern-day Luddite argues that computers deaden our souls.

By William S. Lind

Russell Kirk, who may have been the only conservative in the post-war American conservative movement, forbad the importation of television sets into his ancestral manse, Piety Hill. One day, in his absence, his wife and daughters smuggled one in. Dr. Kirk discovered it, and they in turn soon discovered him, high in the tower with television in hand, pitching it off the roof.

Television, like all virtual realities, comes from Hell. (The author of this piece, having hosted several television programs, knows how difficult it is to use the medium for good; in effect, one has to do bad television.) Earlier generations of conservatives knew instinctively that machines could be Hellish, and they regarded innovative technologies with distrust.

It is perhaps a measure of how much conservatism has withered away that most American conservatives now welcome any new technology that comes along. They love cell phones, which destroy what little is left of the public space. They gush over genetic engineering, which will create weapons that bring back the Black Death. Most of all, they embrace computers and all their progeny even though, all around us, our fellow subjects of Heaven are using them to create virtual realities they can inhabit almost full-time. (Fortunately, they still have to eat.)

The first Christian principle, and the first principle of Western civilization, is that there is and can be only one reality. If there can be multiple realities, we lose both Jerusalem and Athens. If there can be more than one reality, there can be more than one God; so falls Jerusalem and monotheism. If there can be more than one reality, what is logical in one means nothing in others, where logic itself may not hold; so falls Athens and reason. All things are indeed relative where realities proliferate.

Hell has always hated reality, for in the real world, Christ is King. Old Screwtape’s problem, for millennia, was that philosophy made a poor weapon against reality. Even Hell’s most sophisticated philosophical device, ideology, fell sure prey to reality, seldom lasting more than a couple of generations. His Wormship knew that he needed a more powerful and enduring weapon than philosophy could provide. He needed convincing but false images of the true: virtual realities.

Virtual realities existed, to be sure. Nero’s Domus Aurea was one; Marie Antoinette’s life as a shepherdess another. Military headquarters were often wonderful generators of virtual reality. (We now flood ours with computers, making the problem worse.) But these took great power and vast resources to create and were also impossible to sustain.

If Hell were to triumph over reality and make it stick—which comes very close to triumphing over God—it needed to find a mechanism that could create powerful, compelling virtual realities, proliferate them widely, and enable people to live in them, self-convincingly, most of the time. And then, brilliantly, Hell’s workshops begat the cathode ray tube and the video screen.

It is clear that many modern people live lives where the video screen, in all its many variants, is the dominating reality. (Perhaps we should borrow here from Derrida and write reality.) Televisions are on and squawking throughout the house, from rising through going to bed. The children spend countless hours with their video games; sunny days are irrelevant. The adults’ version is the Internet, whose most common use is for pornography. All offer alternate realities, an ever growing variety of them, all getting better and better in their ability to seem real. First they are alluring, then satisfying, and finally compulsive. Snap! Go the jaws of Hell.

If most conservatives were still conservative, they would find this troubling. Some do find the content of many virtual realities discomfiting; the Roman arena begins to pale in comparison. But few seem to see that the Reality Principle (Marcuse’s old enemy) is itself at stake. Is watching a Mass on television the same as going to Mass? No. Is knowing that it is a fine day in Ouagadougou the same as enjoying a fine day in the park? Again, no. Is watching people on a video screen the same as knowing actual people? No, indeed. But in more and more lives, the virtual is replacing the real.

And the image is substituting itself for the Word, the Logos. The West spent three thousand years struggling to substitute the Word for the image. The war of the Word against the image is perhaps the most basic theme of the Old Testament. Thousands of Christians gave their lives in that fight. Now, thanks to the video screen, history is running backwards because on video screens images are far more powerful than words. Not surprisingly, paganism is on the rise, beyond and within the Church.

If conservatives cannot see the danger in the thing itself, in the substitution of the false for the true, one would expect they would at least, be alarmed that all virtual realities are subject to manipulation. Today, in America, most of them are manipulated, deliberately and systematically, to serve the ideology of cultural Marxism, a.k.a. political correctness. Thus we get endless television programs and video games where men are puny and women strong (they beat up the men), muggers are white and doctors are black, and the only normal-seeming white males are homosexuals. Thanks to virtual realities, the entertainment industry has become the most powerful force in American culture, and it is largely owned by the cultural Marxists. Through it, cultural Marxism does what it is supposed to do, psychologically condition. Soon enough, in any life where virtual realities hold sway, anyone who dares think that maybe Western civilization really is superior looks in the mirror and sees “another Hitler.” Does the prospect of Brave New World not bother conservatives anymore?

The answer to all the above, from many technology-addicted conservatives, is that computers and their ilk provide wonderful sources of information. That is undoubtedly true. But it raises a further, very conservative, question: is information itself all that wonderful?

I often lecture to young people, college grads, usually on military topics. They are adept at the information technologies, having imbibed them as their mother’s milk. The problem, to put it bluntly, is that most of them cannot think. They cannot think because of information, not because of a lack of it.

An Amish friend of mine, David Klein, put it well as we talked under the trees of his Wayne County, Ohio, farmyard this past summer. Using information technologies, he said, is like trying to build a car by reaching blindly into a vast dumpster and using as parts whatever comes to hand. That is how these young minds work. They cannot grasp any sort of intellectual order or framework. All they have ever encountered are bits and pieces of this and that, spewed randomly out of some cosmic, universal vending machine. It is not simply that things do not make sense; these young people have no concept of things making sense. As Ortega warned would happen, they have become technologically competent barbarians.

Again, an earlier generation of conservatives would have understood. When life is, in effect, an endless process of interruption, thought, as we traditionally knew it, becomes impossible. Western thought is linear, but “information” is chaotic. More, thought requires being alone with your thoughts, something the technologically dependent can neither attain nor abide.

Just as intellectual chaos is normal to the information generation, so is their lowly status as humble servants to lumps of beige plastic. I will confess that a year ago, I was browbeaten by my office into putting a fax machine in my summer home in Ohio. It was more demanding than a cat. Unless I met its every beeped and coded wish, and they were many, it refused to work. (Even a neglected cat will still catch mice.) This summer, I realized I was the servant and it the master and resolved this inversion of the natural order in Kirkian fashion, by taking a sledgehammer to it. Its human replacement, a FedEx courier, does the same job with far less trouble.

But rebellion of this sort lies far outside the ken of those who worship the computer and its siblings. They cannot imagine lives without their machines, even though we lived such lives (quite nicely, too) just a few decades ago. No sabot in the gears for them; without their calculators, they cannot even add. Go to the bank some fine day and ask the young teller to do something that “isn’t in the computer,” and she will look at you with great, cow eyes.

Conservatives used to know that information does not equal knowledge and that knowledge does not equal understanding. (T.S. Eliot had something to say on the matter.) The transitions require thought, and computers, in both their informational and virtual reality guises, are enemies of thought. Thought only works if it is unplugged.

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2003/jan/13/00023/

Saul Mine
5th July 2010, 10:11 PM
An Amish friend of mine, David Klein, put it well as we talked under the trees of his Wayne County, Ohio, farmyard this past summer. Using information technologies, he said, is like trying to build a car by reaching blindly into a vast dumpster and using as parts whatever comes to hand. That is how these young minds work. They cannot grasp any sort of intellectual order or framework. All they have ever encountered are bits and pieces of this and that, spewed randomly out of some cosmic, universal vending machine. It is not simply that things do not make sense; these young people have no concept of things making sense. As Ortega warned would happen, they have become technologically competent barbarians.

That is because public schools have resolutely taught them to get along without making sense. The dominant lesson in a public school is "Sit the hell down and shut the hell up!" Any student who wants to investigate something that makes sense is told "Don't get ahead of the class." Any student who can't contain his curiosity gets sent to a doctor for a prescription to deaden his enthusiasm.

Here is how public schools were taken down: The Underground History of Public Education (http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/index.htm)
And here is what classical education used to be: The Lost Tools of Learning (http://www.gbt.org/text/sayers.html)

Book
5th July 2010, 10:16 PM
Any student who wants to investigate something that makes sense is told "Don't get ahead of the class." Any student who can't contain his curiosity gets sent to a doctor for a prescription to deaden his enthusiasm.



http://henricowarriors.org/hasley/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/calvin_and_hobbes_on_ritalin.gif

You nailed it Saul Mine.

dysgenic
6th July 2010, 07:12 PM
This essay had some interesting ideas. I found myself agreeing with a lot of it, although it lost points in my book for the continual reference to 'conservatives' (I hate labels). Nevertheless, net net I enjoyed it and got something out of it.

dys

Phoenix
15th July 2010, 01:56 AM
This needs a bump. Thank you for posting it (and I'm glad I looked back far enough to find it!).

I've said for a long time, and often on GIM, that television is the most effective weapon ever devised. It, more than any military weapon, has conquered the West.

The essay presents many great points. I don't believe that the medium is in itself "evil," but like all things, is used according to the will, whether good or bad, of the user. The "virtual reality" of the television, cinema, and to a large extent, the Internet, has damaged the ability to perceive reality of most. Mythology such as the Six Millionâ„¢ would not have been possible a century earlier, since people were more discerning of the reality of visual imagery (the Holocaustâ„¢ is completely dependent upon horrendous, but nonetheless irrelevant, heaps of bodies - they don't tell any facts, only instill "feelings"). And the Jews are right about one thing: Auschwitz is the defining point of modern history (since modern "history" - and the socio-political realities built upon it - is mythology, not fact, merely virtual reality that is little grounded in the realities of the labor camps and relocation policies of the 3R).

We are in the midst of not only an economic collapse, but a collapse of what defines a "civilization." The values and ideals and skills that are needed to sustain a civilization are less and less possessed, and even less and less practiced, by the population which inhabits this geriatric civilization. Discernment - discrimination - are traits that are life-essential to a society. Yet as each passing day comes, more and more people want their vision to be reality, rather than adapting their vision to the constraints of reality. The New Age sewage of "dream it and become it" and "create reality" has been, to date, most exposed as a mentally-unbalanced fantasy in the "Hope & Change" which did not and could never materialize.

At this point, we can only aim to survive, ourselves, and our families, and perhaps more important than guns, food, and medical supplies will be the ability to discern what is real and what is not, and to choose to discriminate between what we hope is and what really is.

oldmansmith
15th July 2010, 03:49 AM
I've said for a long time, and often on GIM, that television is the most effective weapon ever devised. It, more than any military weapon, has conquered the West.




Agree completely. I stopped watching 12 years ago, and my thinking has completely changed since then. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are all kinds of subliminal messages in there. Why do you think they call it programming?

iOWNme
15th July 2010, 06:29 AM
I for one would like to say that i have used my computer to become more human, to delve deeper into my soul, and to expand my mind as to what it means to be human. I have read many books by many great writers, have researched many interesting and pertinent topics.

Most of my learning would have taken a lifetime to achieve by getting books from the Library, or by tracking down documentaries. (Like all the great minds used to do)


So i say thank you to my computer- who is full of metal and electrons, for it is it who has transformed the 1's and 0's into something of substance and meaning. It really all depends on what you use your computer for....

DMac
15th July 2010, 07:20 AM
"technologically competent barbarians"

Brilliant

Phoenix
15th July 2010, 12:23 PM
I for one would like to say that i have used my computer to become more human, to delve deeper into my soul, and to expand my mind as to what it means to be human. I have read many books by many great writers, have researched many interesting and pertinent topics.

Most of my learning would have taken a lifetime to achieve by getting books from the Library, or by tracking down documentaries. (Like all the great minds used to do)


So i say thank you to my computer- who is full of metal and electrons, for it is it who has transformed the 1's and 0's into something of substance and meaning. It really all depends on what you use your computer for....


"I don't believe that the medium is in itself 'evil,' but like all things, is used according to the will, whether good or bad, of the user."

I agree...without a computer and the Internet, I would not know half the things I know, would not understand half the things I understand. I probably wouldn't be a Christian, either, as God used the Internet as the tool in my quest for Truth, which turned out to be Jesus Christ.

MAGNES
15th July 2010, 01:02 PM
I probably wouldn't be a Christian, either, as God used the Internet as the tool in my quest for Truth, which turned out to be Jesus Christ.


Very interesting, born into Greek Orthodox, called a non Christian on gim for saying that, lol ,
it is true I ain't religious but similar history here, been looking more and more into this cause
of knowledge learned, especially after realizing how real the occult is, especially on historical
aspect of The West and Christianity, both targets for a reason.

Phoenix
15th July 2010, 01:14 PM
I probably wouldn't be a Christian, either, as God used the Internet as the tool in my quest for Truth, which turned out to be Jesus Christ.


Very interesting, born into Greek Orthodox, called a non Christian on gim for saying that, lol ,
it is true I ain't religious but similar history here, been looking more and more into this cause
of knowledge learned, especially after realizing how real the occult is, especially on historical
aspect of The West and Christianity, both targets for a reason.


The Internet allowed me to "explore" alternatives to Christianity to their extreme, and all came up empty in the end.

Skirnir
15th July 2010, 03:49 PM
First, there is no such thing as the soul. The computer cannot deaden something which does not exist.

Second, the computer is a tool; without human input, it does nothing. Therefore it is not the fault of the computer that one acts a certain way any more than it is the fault of the axe that a tree is fallen or a skull split open. The said arguments about public schooling are pertinent here.

Third, the argument about 'technologically competent barbarians' is at best cum hoc ergo propter hoc. The presence of scattered information does not prevent one from creating a world-view. Rather, it is the dearth in knowledge of philosophy, in this case epistemology, and in the scientific method that prevents one from synthesising.

Fourth, most of this article is banal pandering to the technophobic. Let him tend to his plants instead of running his mouth.

Phoenix
15th July 2010, 04:38 PM
First, there is no such thing as the soul...Second, the computer is a tool; without human input, it does nothing.


What's the difference? After all, neither have souls. They're just machines.

::)

Skirnir
15th July 2010, 05:57 PM
First, there is no such thing as the soul...Second, the computer is a tool; without human input, it does nothing.


What's the difference? After all, neither have souls. They're just machines.

::)


All humans are computers, but not all computers are human.

oldmansmith
15th July 2010, 06:06 PM
First, there is no such thing as the soul.


Ever been out of your body? There is something else, call it what you will; words are inadequate. "Soul" is a religiously loaded term for sure, but the "double," or "energy body" also work.

If you had not experienced water how then could I describe it to you?

Skirnir
15th July 2010, 06:10 PM
If you had not experienced water how then could I describe it to you?


One could describe its properties, and how the senses detect its presence. That said, water is hardly a fair comparison in that it is observed empirically. Until there is evidence in favour of the soul which stands the test of the scientific method, I denounce this soul business as hokum.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
16th July 2010, 11:11 AM
Skirnir, all human bodies have a light inside of them. I'm not being metaphorical, I'm being literal. There is a scientifically perceptible light generated by the human body. There is also a magnetic field, and electric field, and a scientifically detectable sound generated by a living human body.


In terms of chemical composition, a dead body is the same as a living one. At the moment of death, bodily functions stop occuring, but all the same physical and chemical components are still right there.

The light is the difference between a living body and a deceased one. What is the light that is the prime mover of these bodily functions? Where does it come from? Is there an infinite amount of it in the universe? How does it perpetuate itself inside the human body while we are living?


It's not as simple as saying "it doesn't exist" because nobody has yet proved it. That's a logical fallacy. Did the Earth rotate around the sun any less, just because nobody could prove it?


I've never in my life been a part of any religion, and completely through my own practices, I have recently begun to seriously suspect the existance of a human soul. I used to be a science minded atheist. That is changing for me. My own perceptions and experiences on the metaphysical level have been too jarring to say "Nothing's there." Once you look inward very seriously, and practice any of the many paths, it becomes very difficult to deny it.

You want empirical evidence, but this is not something you can read in a white paper. It requires introspection, meditation, mindfulness, any of these will work. It is something you personally experience. I'm not talking about the alleged God, I am talking about specifically the light that resides inside of you. There are many paths to it, but until you have truly looked inside, I echo what OldManSmith says..."How can I explain this to you?"

Skirnir
16th July 2010, 12:18 PM
In terms of chemical composition, a dead body is the same as a living one. At the moment of death, bodily functions stop occuring, but all the same physical and chemical components are still right there.

Not necessarily; death is the cessation of the two things required to sustain life: breathing and heartbeat.
http://www.deathreference.com/Da-Em/Definitions-of-Death.html


The light is the difference between a living body and a deceased one. What is the light that is the prime mover of these bodily functions? Where does it come from? Is there an infinite amount of it in the universe? How does it perpetuate itself inside the human body while we are living?

You may have 'light' confused for 'oxygen in the bloodstream'. I presume your inquires are rhetorical.


It's not as simple as saying "it doesn't exist" because nobody has yet proved it. That's a logical fallacy. Did the Earth rotate around the sun any less, just because nobody could prove it?

The existence of an object is not the same as the behaviour of an object, and it was common knowledge among the Greeks that the earth rotated around the sun. That said, technically speaking, you are correct in that things do not exist by virtue of having yet to be observed. That said, just because they have yet to be observed does not mean they exist either.


I've never in my life been a part of any religion, and completely through my own practices, I have recently begun to seriously suspect the existance of a human soul. I used to be a science minded atheist. That is changing for me. My own perceptions and experiences on the metaphysical level have been too jarring to say "Nothing's there." Once you look inward very seriously, and practice any of the many paths, it becomes very difficult to deny it.

Then prove it via the scientific method.


You want empirical evidence, but this is not something you can read in a white paper. It requires introspection, meditation, mindfulness, any of these will work. It is something you personally experience. I'm not talking about the alleged God, I am talking about specifically the light that resides inside of you. There are many paths to it, but until you have truly looked inside, I echo what OldManSmith says..."How can I explain this to you?"


Either something is proven or it is not. In response to your inquiry, you can explain it in a proof, until then, I denounce it as hokum.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
16th July 2010, 03:46 PM
Undelete your account and we'll continue this conversation.

oldmansmith
16th July 2010, 04:43 PM
Then prove it via the scientific method.


So, you get to decide the playing field?

The so-called scientific method only works if we perceive exactly the same thing. YOU can verify what I am saying. Stop your internal dialogue, relax, and wait. It may tale months, or even years, but it will happen. If you are not willing to try this little experiment (and few Americams are), then why would I bother trying to convince you? .

Silver Rocket Bitches!
16th July 2010, 06:44 PM
Is it computers to blame? Or our hedonistic society?

TheNocturnalEgyptian
17th July 2010, 10:38 AM
Well I believe that computers literally deaden the soul, through the generation of Electro Magnetic Radiation. The joke in the 90's was that we'd all get "eye cancer" one day, but lately I have been speculating about the dangers of merely existing near large sources of electricity. Sure, a home computer isn't much, but where I work, it's electronics everywhere. I'm speculating that being in those fields all day long is not helping my body reach it's natural homeostasis.

Phoenix
17th July 2010, 02:34 PM
Well I believe that computers literally deaden the soul, through the generation of Electro Magnetic Radiation. The joke in the 90's was that we'd all get "eye cancer" one day, but lately I have been speculating about the dangers of merely existing near large sources of electricity. Sure, a home computer isn't much, but where I work, it's electronics everywhere. I'm speculating that being in those fields all day long is not helping my body reach it's natural homeostasis.


EMR pollution is a grave danger, and it possibly one contributing factor to the grave stupidity seen amongst the population. Microwaves (from cell phones and ovens), radio waves, low-frequency fields from all appliances, it's everywhere, no escaping it, even to the remotest areas of the Earth.

Our ancient ancestors were so attuned to natural EMR that they chose sites like Stonehenge and many religious venues (including Christian ones) due to the energy levels in the area. All that attunement is gone except for a small minority, who unfortunately suffer from the ocean of artificial EMR nowadays.