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MNeagle
6th July 2010, 01:55 PM
CNN) -- A quarrel between occupants of two vehicles at a McDonald's restaurant drive-through in southern Finland erupted in gunfire Tuesday, leaving three men dead, police said.

Three occupants in one of the vehicles have been arrested, said Peter Fagerholm, a detective inspector in the town of Porvoo.

The two vehicles were in line at the restaurant about 2 a.m. when the quarrel began, Fagerholm said. Shots from a semiautomatic handgun were fired from a Toyota SUV into a convertible driven by a pregnant woman and carrying four men.

Two of the men in the convertible, ages 28 and 45, died at the scene. Another 28-year-old man died Tuesday afternoon at a hospital in Finland's capital, Helsinki, about 50 miles to the west, Fagerholm said. Two of the men were shot in the head, the other in the chest, he said.

The cause of the argument was not immediately known.

"We believe it was a very small issue" that escalated, Fagerholm said late Tuesday. He said he doesn't believe the parties in the different cars knew each other, or that the shooting was preplanned.

The SUV carried one woman and two men, Fagerholm said. One of the men, 41, is the principal suspect. In 1995 he was sentenced to life in prison on one count of murder and two counts of attempted homicide, Fagerholm said. He was released on parole in December. Fagerholm would not release the suspect's name.

Authorities are speaking with witnesses in a third car in the drive-through line.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/07/06/finland.shooting/index.html?hpt=T2

Gaillo
6th July 2010, 04:41 PM
They're not lovin' it.

Awoke
6th July 2010, 05:40 PM
Terrible shame. My immediate thought was "Hang the phukker!!", but I don't know the details.

synbi
7th July 2010, 03:30 AM
Yeah, hang the bastard.

The shooter had received a lifetime sentence in prison in 1996 for breaking into a house, shooting her wife and wounding her brother and his girlfriend. Yet, he was released from prison last December... I mean, why the hell do they call it a "lifetime sentence" if they let the killers loose every ten years to repeat the process again and again?

Also, there are lots of calls in the news to ban all handguns again... >:( It's funny how in the case that I'd outlined above, the 1996 shooting, there would have been three victims if his wife's brother hadn't had a gun with him... how convenient of them to ignore all logic with this banning guns nonsense.

Awoke
7th July 2010, 05:04 AM
The shooter had received a lifetime sentence in prison in 1996 for breaking into a house, shooting her wife and wounding her brother and his girlfriend. Yet, he was released from prison last December... I mean, why the hell do they call it a "lifetime sentence" if they let the killers loose every ten years to repeat the process again and again?


This, my friend, is a small cog in the machinations of the conspiracy.



Also, there are lots of calls in the news to ban all handguns again... >:( It's funny how in the case that I'd outlined above, the 1996 shooting, there would have been three victims if his wife's brother hadn't had a gun with him... how convenient of them to ignore all logic with this banning guns nonsense.


Yeah, that is the case oftentimes. It is up to us to point that out to people when we talk to them about the right to bear arms and defned yourself/your family.

I remember a guy telling me that in the states which are more "gun-friendly" and more people carry, there is less gun violence than in the "anti-gun" states.
Can anyone verify this?

nunaem
7th July 2010, 08:36 AM
I remember a guy telling me that in the states which are more "gun-friendly" and more people carry, there is less gun violence than in the "anti-gun" states.
Can anyone verify this?


It's generally true, but there are lots of exceptions. For instance Mississippi has the 3rd highest gun homicide rate while New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts are below average.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state