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uranian
6th July 2010, 05:51 PM
Isn't this guy supposed to be generally good at calling stock markets?

A Market Forecast That Says ‘Take Cover’ (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/04/your-money/04stra.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=general)


WITH the stock market lurching again, plenty of investors are nervous, and some are downright bearish. Then there’s Robert Prechter, the market forecaster and social theorist, who is in another league entirely.

If Robert Prechter is right, one market analyst said, “we’ve basically got to go to the mountains with a gun and some soup cans.”

Mr. Prechter is convinced that we have entered a market decline of staggering proportions — perhaps the biggest of the last 300 years.

In a series of phone conversations and e-mail exchanges last week, he said that no other forecaster was likely to accept his reasoning, which is based on his version of the Elliott Wave theory — a technical approach to market analysis that he embraces with evangelical fervor.

Originating in the writings of Ralph Nelson Elliott, an obscure accountant who found repetitive patterns, or “fractals,” in the stock market of the 1930s and ’40s, the theory suggests that an epic downswing is under way, Mr. Prechter said. But he argued that even skeptical investors should take his advice seriously.

“I’m saying: ‘Winter is coming. Buy a coat,’ ” he said. “Other people are advising people to stay naked. If I’m wrong, you’re not hurt. If they’re wrong, you’re dead. It’s pretty benign advice to opt for safety for a while.”

His advice: individual investors should move completely out of the market and hold cash and cash equivalents, like Treasury bills, for years to come. (For traders with a fair amount of skill and willingness to embrace risk, he suggests other alternatives, like shorting the market or making bets on volatility.) But ultimately, “the decline will lead to one of the best investment opportunities ever,” he said.

Buy-and-hold stock investors will be devastated in a crash much worse than the declines of 2008 and early 2009 or the worst years of the Great Depression or the Panic of 1873, he predicted.

For a rough parallel, he said, go all the way back to England and the collapse of the South Sea Bubble in 1720, a crash that deterred people “from buying stocks for 100 years,” he said. This time, he said, “If I’m right, it will be such a shock that people will be telling their grandkids many years from now, ‘Don’t touch stocks.’ ”

The Dow, which now stands at 9,686.48, is likely to fall well below 1,000 over perhaps five or six years as a grand market cycle comes to an end, he said. That unraveling, combined with a depression and deflation, will make anyone holding cash “extremely grateful for their prudence.”

Mr. Prechter is hardly the only market hand to advocate prudence now, but nearly everyone else foresees a much rosier future, once current difficulties are past.

Steal
6th July 2010, 06:41 PM
I do not know of really anyone long in the market. If they are is like long puts on miners/short FAZ. Probably just hedge funds trying to 'pick- pocket' each other or those guys with those programs doing 100 trades a minute trying 'to pick-pocket' each other. Doubt to see over 10k again. lost major support and everyone knows it. Think Im gonna sit tight and see what happens, try to save some pwdr up. Have enough metals (well, never have enough) may buy a 1/4 Au frac if falls a bit. If no pull back in market or metals , worth loading up, then original plan still in place, trying to get a few acres in the country. If metals fall hard, will be a stackers wet dream and if no pwdr :'( Wondering, without any paper$ in the bankola, only way to pay for land would be a for sale by owner I guess. But back on topic, Precter has always left a bad taste in my mouth. Deninger I can understand where he comes from, may not agree completley with his deflation philosophy, but present is holding up. Will add his doom cast later if I can find it.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74hEslYb3ao&playnext_from=TL&videos=OeGvbgYEPsY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOr5suFJ6-k&playnext_from=TL&videos=a4pZ2xpU-C4