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Libertarian_Guard
7th July 2010, 12:47 AM
A Hatred That Resists Exorcism

By EDWARD ROTHSTEIN
Published: July 5, 2010

Is there anything left to be said about anti-Semitism? By now surely the outline is clear: how hatred of Jews grew out of early Christianity’s attempts to supplant Judaism; how the demonization of Jews in the Middle Ages turned violent; how the hatred was given its name by a 19th-century German journalist; and how it reached cataclysmic fulfillment in the Holocaust.

There are other landmarks: the expulsion of the Jews from England, Spain and Portugal; intermittent massacres in Muslim lands; the construction of European ghettos; the pogroms of Russia and Eastern Europe; the Dreyfus Affair; the Nazification of Europe; Stalin’s purges and show trials.

And then, of course, there are the triumphs that act as a kind of remonstrance: the Enlightenment success of Jews in secular European societies, the myriad opportunities in the United States, the birth of modern Hebrew and, after a half-century of settlement, land purchases and institution building, the creation of Israel, whose founding principles incorporated both democratic and Judaic ideals.

Why then during the last six months have new tomes been published devoted to the hatred of Jews? “A Lethal Obsession: Anti-Semitism From Antiquity to the Global Jihad” (Random House) weighs in at about 1,200 pages, a compendium of a career’s research by Robert S. Wistrich, professor of modern Jewish history at Hebrew University in Israel. And more than 800 pages are devoted just to British anti-Semitic history in “Trials of the Diaspora” (Oxford) by Anthony Julius, a learned British lawyer whose clients included Diana, Princess of Wales, and whose book on T.S. Eliot’s anti-Semitism was widely praised for its supple understanding.

Surely this attention is a bit overwrought? Aren’t we in an age that must be “post” all such sentiments — postmodern, post-Auschwitz and post-anti-Semitic? Haven’t many anti-Semitic doctrines (or their consequences) been largely overturned? How many people today would advocate ghettos or extermination? Who still believes that Jews bake Christian children’s blood into matzo? Many countries have forbidden hate speech; hasn’t that enforced a decorous social tact? And while it is difficult to ignore the vulgar hatreds expressed by Muslim protestors or in the newspapers of the Arab world or even among Westerners, aren’t those just frustrated expressions of justifiable political grievances?

Besides, anti-Semitism, we now understand, is a form of racism. Like all forms of group hatred, it is subject to reform and to the modern cure of sensitivity training. We learn about such hatreds in order to exorcise them. It seems every museum exhibition, textbook and children’s story about racism provides a similar moral prescription: tolerance.

So isn’t there something a little tasteless about bringing up anti-Semitism all the time, let alone drumming its theme page after page? Sure, racism may still flourish, but given the modern success of Jews, hasn’t this particular form of it become an anomaly? Or worse, hasn’t the term become a manipulative attempt to deflect judgment? As is often pointed out, criticism of Israel is not necessarily anti-Semitic any more than criticism of any particular Jew is.


A Hatred That Resists Exorcism By EDWARD ROTHSTEIN
Published: July 5, 2010

Is there anything left to be said about anti-Semitism? By now surely the outline is clear: how hatred of Jews grew out of early Christianity’s attempts to supplant Judaism; how the demonization of Jews in the Middle Ages turned violent; how the hatred was given its name by a 19th-century German journalist; and how it reached cataclysmic fulfillment in the Holocaust.




There are other landmarks: the expulsion of the Jews from England, Spain and Portugal; intermittent massacres in Muslim lands; the construction of European ghettos; the pogroms of Russia and Eastern Europe; the Dreyfus Affair; the Nazification of Europe; Stalin’s purges and show trials.

And then, of course, there are the triumphs that act as a kind of remonstrance: the Enlightenment success of Jews in secular European societies, the myriad opportunities in the United States, the birth of modern Hebrew and, after a half-century of settlement, land purchases and institution building, the creation of Israel, whose founding principles incorporated both democratic and Judaic ideals.

Why then during the last six months have new tomes been published devoted to the hatred of Jews? “A Lethal Obsession: Anti-Semitism From Antiquity to the Global Jihad” (Random House) weighs in at about 1,200 pages, a compendium of a career’s research by Robert S. Wistrich, professor of modern Jewish history at Hebrew University in Israel. And more than 800 pages are devoted just to British anti-Semitic history in “Trials of the Diaspora” (Oxford) by Anthony Julius, a learned British lawyer whose clients included Diana, Princess of Wales, and whose book on T.S. Eliot’s anti-Semitism was widely praised for its supple understanding.

Surely this attention is a bit overwrought? Aren’t we in an age that must be “post” all such sentiments — postmodern, post-Auschwitz and post-anti-Semitic? Haven’t many anti-Semitic doctrines (or their consequences) been largely overturned? How many people today would advocate ghettos or extermination? Who still believes that Jews bake Christian children’s blood into matzo? Many countries have forbidden hate speech; hasn’t that enforced a decorous social tact? And while it is difficult to ignore the vulgar hatreds expressed by Muslim protestors or in the newspapers of the Arab world or even among Westerners, aren’t those just frustrated expressions of justifiable political grievances?

Besides, anti-Semitism, we now understand, is a form of racism. Like all forms of group hatred, it is subject to reform and to the modern cure of sensitivity training. We learn about such hatreds in order to exorcise them. It seems every museum exhibition, textbook and children’s story about racism provides a similar moral prescription: tolerance.

So isn’t there something a little tasteless about bringing up anti-Semitism all the time, let alone drumming its theme page after page? Sure, racism may still flourish, but given the modern success of Jews, hasn’t this particular form of it become an anomaly? Or worse, hasn’t the term become a manipulative attempt to deflect judgment? As is often pointed out, criticism of Israel is not necessarily anti-Semitic any more than criticism of any particular Jew is.

But spend some time submerged in these books — by no means a pleasant or an easy task — and these notions recede into irrelevance. Mr. Wistrich’s volume presents itself as an encyclopedic history, and is so full of details and citations, it overwhelms. We hear from a 17th-century Viennese preacher (“After Satan Christians have no greater enemies than the Jews”), Karl Marx (“What is the worldly cult of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly god? Money”) and the Hezbollah secretary general, Hassan Nasrallah (“If we searched the entire world for a person more cowardly, despicable, weak and feeble in psyche, mind, ideology and religion, we would not find anyone like the Jew”).

Mr. Wistrich offers less a history, though, than a contemporary indictment with historical background. This makes his book difficult to read. Its approach is one of cumulative examples culminating in jihadists and their apologists. Its rosterlike style can become tedious but the examples are powerfully dispiriting.

“Trials of the Diaspora” has a similar effect, though Mr. Julius is more focused and analytical, dissecting types of enmity, the nature of anti-Semitic myth and its influence on the greatest examples of English literature. From his analysis, we begin to see too just how different anti-Semitism is from other forms of racism.

Racism attaches negative attributes onto people bearing a particular biological heritage. Such characteristics are passed on; they are inherited. The hatred is focused; the perceived threat can be excised. In a way, racism is a materialist or physical passion: the problem and the solution are concrete.

While anti-Semitism has tapped into racial hatreds in modern times, Mr. Julius and Mr. Wistrich highlight its traditional reliance on conspiracy: the hidden plot. Anti-Semitism isn’t just a matter of asserting unpleasant or reprehensible attributes. It sees the Jew as an antinomian threat, overturning all ethical laws. The Jew works in secret, creating invisible alliances, pulling elaborate strings, undermining society’s foundations. This is why the Protocols of the Elders of Zion has found such a fertile international ground. That 19th-century document purports to be the secret minutes of such a plotting ensemble of Jews. It is the counterfeit confirmation of a long-held belief.

Anti-Semitism is a metaphysical passion, not a materialist one. It doesn’t even require a Jewish presence.

One reason anti-Semites have been so obsessed with the issue of finance in the modern world is that money is the circulatory system of capitalist society. It is mysterious, manipulable: the Jew’s perfect instrument. The Jew, first seen as a theological spoiler, becomes a metaphysical and monetary spoiler. The medieval image of the Jew was related to the vampire, Mr. Julius shows; the modern anti-Semitic vision sees the Jew as a guzzler of a society’s lifeblood.

This amplifies virulence as well: the Jew, for the anti-Semite, is not just a danger, but the greatest danger exerting the greatest powers. In current paradoxical parlance, the Jew is, in essence, a Nazi. The Jew does not just devour a Christian child’s blood, but the blood of all innocent children, and more completely, the blood of all innocents.

Is any evidence needed? Appearances are irrelevant; argument is illusion. What use is visible fact when the power of the Jew is in the web woven below the surface? Jewish autonomy is itself evidence of Jewish threat. Moreover, confrontation requires courage. Anti-Semitism never sees itself as a hatred; it views itself as a revelation. An attack on the Jew is never offensive; it is always defensive. This is precisely how the Nazis portrayed it. It is precisely how Islamist ideology does as well, evident, for example, in the principles and founding documents of Hamas and Hezbollah.

In a recent book, “Nazi Propaganda for the Arab World” (Yale), the historian Jeffrey Herf shows how Nazi propagandists literally taught Arab audiences the language of anti-Semitism through popular radio programs in Arabic. Nazi ideology bears many resemblances to that of contemporary Islamic extremism, some the consequence of careful teaching. That teaching is still present in the Arab world, amplified by political leaders and imams, often annexed to denigrations of Jews taken from Islamic sources

The result, Mr. Julius and Mr. Wistrich recognize, has been one of the most historically noxious forms of anti-Semitic mythology, which has also fed into political debates in the West and cannot be overlooked or easily dismissed. It is easy enough to discern when responsible criticisms of Israel veer into something reprehensible: the structure of anti-Semitic belief is not subtle. There is a wildly exaggerated scale of condemnation, in which extremes of contempt confront a country caricatured as the world’s worst enemy of peace; such attacks (and the use of Nazi analogies) are beyond evidence and beyond pragmatic political debate or protest. Israel’s autonomy — it’s very presence — is the problem. Mr. Julius writes, “Israel is the only state in the world whose legitimacy is widely denied and whose destruction is publicly advocated and threatened; Israelis are the only citizens of a state whose indiscriminate murder is widely considered justifiable.”

But even if we leave aside such manifestations, it is clear enough that anti-Semitism requires much deeper understanding than it usually gets. Last week, for example, Hannah Rosenthal, the United States’ special envoy to monitor and combat anti-Semitism, spoke in Kazakhstan, asserting the similarity of anti-Semitism and Islamophobia.

This is not an uncommon assertion (and cases of unwarranted discrimination are always similar) but Islamophobia is a concept developed within the last two decades by those who wish to elevate Islam’s reputation in the West; anti-Semitism was a concept eagerly embraced and expanded by haters of Jews. One was constructed by a group’s supporters, the other by a group’s enemies.

Moreover, much of what is characterized as Islamophobia today arises out of taking seriously the impassioned claims of doctrinal allegiance made by Islamic terrorist groups and their supporters. Anti-Semitism, though, has nothing to do with any claims at all.


Connections is a critic’s perspective on arts and ideas.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/06/books/06antisemtism.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=arts

keehah
7th July 2010, 12:57 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Rothstein

He is a two-time winner of the ASCAP Deems-Taylor Award for music criticism, was named a Guggenheim Fellow in 1991, and has been awarded a doctorate from the Committee on Social Thought at the University of Chicago.

http://people.ucalgary.ca/~elsegal/TalmudMap/960916_NYTimes.html

It is unlikely that many Jewish worshipers among us will indeed sit in front of their screens, but that is close to what the World Wide Web site of New York's Temple Emanu-El has in mind....

Of course, there is no body of belief behind the Web's web, which gives it a weightless and inconsequential character. But the similarities of form may, in the long run, have an even wider impact than the one Mendelson mentions. Biblical marginalia, for example, are reflections of early rabbinic practice of annotation and reference that was codified in the 11th century in the Talmud.

This compilation of debates and discussion about Jewish law is actually written in a form of hypertext on the Web pages of Eliezer Segal.

Segal, who teaches Jewish history and Talmud at the University of Calgary, shows a typical page of the Talmud in which one form of text wraps around another, written in different scripts. Each paragraph of the main text contains references to the Bible and to rabbinic interpretations of the law; the framing commentary, which also appears on each page, contains references to legal codes, related citations and conflicting opinions. Each page of the Talmud is an intricate conversation, linked by connections to a sacred text.

Libertarian_Guard
7th July 2010, 01:07 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Rothstein

He is a two-time winner of the ASCAP Deems-Taylor Award for music criticism, was named a Guggenheim Fellow in 1991, and has been awarded a doctorate from the Committee on Social Thought at the University of Chicago.


See if you can find out how often he changes his skivies or anything else not related to the article?

keehah
7th July 2010, 01:13 AM
The article was a jumble of catch-phrases and propaganda. Good catch.

In trying to understand what would motivate such a work I posted some info on the creator's training, and projection.

Libertarian_Guard
7th July 2010, 01:48 AM
Keehah

Perhaps I should have no problem with that. But I do.

Not long ago I lent a friend my copy of "The Case Against the Fed" by Murray Rothbard. He took the book home and googled up the author's name, thereby learning that Murray was a libertarian. He returned the book the next day without reading a single page, as libertarian views are taboo in his mind.

My point being, that we can agree and disagree with any and every author, but our consent, or not, should not be based on how the author is labled or defined.

Brent
7th July 2010, 02:46 AM
Is this a serious post? I sure hope not.

By the way, how many books by "anti-Semitic" authors have you read?

Libertarian_Guard
7th July 2010, 03:16 AM
Is this a serious post? I sure hope not.

By the way, how many books by "anti-Semitic" authors have you read?




I know the phrase 'anti-semitic' is widely misunderstood and misapplied. And I know some of the article is B.S. - - but not all of it.

In reality, I can only speak for myself. In no way shape or form, am I, nor should I be, considered 'anti-semitic.' However my views, that throw me firmly in the camp of 'anti-zionists' are at times expanded upon, and you know how that game is played.

As with any composition, take what you like and discard the rest.

Saul Mine
7th July 2010, 05:41 AM
Is there any particular reason for posting it 1 1/2 times?

Libertarian_Guard
7th July 2010, 06:16 AM
Is there any particular reason for posting it 1 1/2 times?


My cut and paste skills suck.

While I was trying to clip the article, it kept latching onto attaching cartoons, without showing the caption. And a bunch of gobblygook was getting sucked-up.

In hindsight, I should have searched for a printer friendly version.

Sorry about that.

SQUEXX
7th July 2010, 06:20 AM
As usual, the jooz dance around the issue of WHY they have been and are so hated! It's always Christianity's fault. Jooz hate Christianity and have been working to destroy it for centuries. Jooz are hated because they are pure evil and greed, not because of something that happened 2000 years ago!

Awoke
7th July 2010, 06:39 AM
As usual, the jooz dance around the issue of WHY they have been and are so hated!


Exactly.

A list of Countries jews have been expelled from (http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm)

Silver Rocket Bitches!
7th July 2010, 06:45 AM
The Jewish Paradox -

They want to shout out antisemitism in the face of any criticism and justify doing so based on what has happened to them throughout history. However, once one starts to research that same history the antisemitism appears justified.

goldmonkey
7th July 2010, 08:01 AM
In a survey commissioned by the American Jewish Committee’s study of the Jews of Baltimore in 1962, “two-thirds of the respondents admitted to believing that other Jews are pushy, hostile, vulgar, materialistic, and the cause of anti-Semitism. And those were only the ones who were willing to admit it.”

Understanding Jewish Influence (http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/UnderstandJI-1.htm)

General of Darkness
7th July 2010, 08:08 AM
Anti-shitmitism exists because jews are assholes.

TPTB
7th July 2010, 08:11 AM
Good article. I didn't see it as defending Judaism or whining about Antisemitism at all.

It's just an analysis of a larger study.


Karl Marx (“What is the worldly cult of the Jew? Huckstering."

That one quote by Marx was interesting all by itself, considering many believe he was a Jew himself.

http://volokh.com/posts/1129867546.shtml


Was Marx Jewish?

This otherwise only mildly interesting essay by Eric Hobsbawm on diaspora Jewry raises once again the issue of why Karl Marx is commonly considered to have been a Jew. My understanding is that Marx's parents converted to Christianity, and Marx was raised and educated as a Christian. Marx also expressed notoriously ignorant, prejudiced and hostile feelings towards Jews. Other than the fact that his parents were born Jewish, is there any logical reason that he is often claimed as a Jew? Did his family associate mostly with Jews, or otherwise raised him in a Jewish cultural milieu? For example, did he speak Yiddish in his parents' house? Despite his upbringing, did he consider himself to be Jewish? I'm serious about these questions.

As far as I can tell, anti-Semites like to claim Marx as a Jew because they want to blame the Jews for Communism. "Progressive" Jews also claim Marx, as a "Jewish" advocate of social justice. Also, some Jews take perhaps an odd pride in the idea that the supposed "three greatest thinkers" of modern times--Marx, Freud, and Einstein--were allegedly all Jews. And because halachah (Jewish law) doesn't recognize conversions, I suppose in that sense Marx was technically Jewish. But for all practical purposes, in the absence of other evidence, wouldn't it make sense to call a child raised in the Christian religion by Christian parents a Christian? [Edit: And wouldn't that make the adult Marx a lapsed Christian?] Not that it should really make any difference whether he was in fact Jewish or not. But I am genuinely puzzled by why otherwise careful writers would simply assert that Marx was Jewish without explanation.

UPDATE: According to the comments, Marx's mother wasn't Jewish in any sense of the word. So, really, Marx was LESS Jewish than, say, Barry Goldwater, who had a Jewish father who never converted, and who was, though raised as a Christian, was proud of the Jewish side of his family. I don't think anyone sane thought Barry Goldwater qualified as a Jew, though, so Marx clearly doesn't qualify.
(link)
Jim Lindgren (mail):
It's odd but I was just reading Marx on the Jews.

Paul Johnson has argued that Marx’s anti-capitalism arose out of his hatred of Jews and his constant problems with moneylenders. Marx generalized his critique of Jewish capitalism to capitalism itself.

This passage nicely shows Marx's logic:


“Money is the jealous god of Israel, beside which no other god may exist. Money abases all the gods of mankind and changes them into commodities. Money is the self-sufficient value of all things. It has, therefore, deprived the whole world, both the human world and Nature, of their own proper value. Money is the alienated essence of man's work and existence: this essence dominates him and he worships it. The god of the Jews has been secularized and has become the god of the world.”
Karl Marx, On the Jewish Questions, 1844.

gunDriller
7th July 2010, 09:03 AM
oh Darn ! someone's accusing me of being anti-criminal.

i'll take that as a compliment.

Grand Master Melon
7th July 2010, 09:21 AM
Anti-sh*tmitism exists because jews are assholes.


Very well thought out and put together response. :oo-->

Awoke
7th July 2010, 09:41 AM
That one quote by Marx was interesting all by itself, considering many believe he was a Jew himself.


More on the jew Marx:



1. Karl Heinrich Marx was a German Jew, whose real name was Kissel Mordekay, born in Trier, Rhineland, son of a Jewish lawyer. Before his famous work “Das Kapital” which contains the fundamental idea of theoretical Communism, whose concepts he strove with inexhaustible activity up to his death in the year 1887 to spread over the world, he had written and published with the Jew Engels in the year 1848 the Communist Manifesto in London; between 1843 and 1847 he had formulated in England the first modern interpretation of Hebrew Nationalism in his articles, as in the publication in the year 1844 in the periodical “Deutsch-Franzosische Jahrbücher” (German-French Year Books) under the title “Concerning the Jewish question”, which shows an ultra-national tendency.


Further to that, take into consideration that the following letter that was written by the jew Messianer Baruch Levy, and sent to Karl Marx, which was discovered in the year 1888 and published for the first time in the same year.

Read this thoroughly, because the contents of this letter should serve as a warning to all of humanity:



“The Jewish people as a whole is its own Messiah. Its kingdom over the universe is obtained through the uniting of the other human races, through the suppression of frontiers and of monarchies, which are bulwarks for particularism and hinder the erection of a world republic where citizenship is everywhere recognised to the Jew.

In this new organisation of mankind, the sons of Israel, who at present are scattered over the entire earth surface, will all be of the same race and of the same traditional culture, without, however, forming another nationality, and will be without contradiction the leading element in all parts, particularly if it is successful in laying upon the masses of workers a permanent leadership by some Jews. The governments of peoples all pass with the formation of the universal republic effortlessly into the hands of the Israelites in favour of the victory of the proletariat.

Then the personal property of the rulers will be able to be suppressed by the rulers of the Jewish race who will everywhere govern over the property of the Peoples. Then the promise of the Talmud will be fulfilled, that when the time of the Messiah has come, the Jews will have the goods of all peoples of the world in their possession.”20

Now read it again.

Would Levy ever consider sending a letter with content such as that to a goy? I think not. Marx was a jew. Stalin was a jew. Trotsky was a jew. Lenin was a jew. Hilter....?

I have not found irrefutable evidence that he was a fratricidal crypto-jew yet.

These quotes can see read at the source, here:
http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/

messianicdruid
7th July 2010, 09:49 AM
I know the phrase 'anti-semitic' is widely misunderstood and misapplied.

Could you offer a useful definition, or show us one given by Mr. Rothstein?

http://gold-silver.us/forum/religion-and-philosophy/reversion-to-type-(judaisation-of-the-church)/

I am me, I am free
7th July 2010, 09:51 AM
Gotta love how Zionists color being opposed to a political ideology and the worst ever and by far the most brutal form of supremacy as being 'anti-semitic'. lol

Book
7th July 2010, 09:55 AM
As usual, the jooz dance around the issue of WHY they have been and are so hated!



http://therichlife.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/madoffs.jpg

Don't mention the $65 billion that Bernie Madoff stole or ask where it is today. That's "hatred" and upsets Libertarian Guard and TPTB...lol.

:oo-->

gunDriller
7th July 2010, 10:08 AM
http://therichlife.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/madoffs.jpg

her biog says - "She graduated from Queens College in 1961"
http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=3299

that would make her in her late '60's. but her hair is blond and her skin ... looks pre-cancerous.

Horn
7th July 2010, 10:09 AM
Just as the U.S. is hated by the terst for being sooo successful, so too the jew is hated for such talented gifts...

Percival seems to think it has something to do with putting on a great show, and difficult banker's math.

I'm not one for picking a scapegoat though. :rocket_hor

mamboni
7th July 2010, 10:17 AM
Rothstein is a skilled propagandist and disinfo author. He decries the overuse of the term 'anti-semitism' while proceeding to pepper this verbal rag with the term repeatedly. The term 'anti-semitism' is a powerful and deft written tool that instantly casts the Jews as innocent victims and thus disarms any criticism of them. Then, after delivering the verbal left-hook "anti-semitism' charge, the pro-Jew writer while predictably deliver the coup de gras verbal right hook 'holocaust.' At this point, the discussion is hopelessly tilted in favor of the saintly guiltless Jew and any criticism of him appears gratuitous and malevolent. Gentiles instinctively sense that they are being morally 'shaken-down' by the huckster jews that employ these lowly tactics and they resent it.

Israel is a apartheid state founded by hardcore terrorists, built on ultranationalist political philosophy and justified by a total lie and hoax, the supposed 'Holocaust.' To compare Israel to the Nazis is an insult to the latter. The German National Socialists, despite their faults, were far more inclusionary and democratic than the racist xenophobic ultranationist Khazar Jews that rule Israel.

General of Darkness
7th July 2010, 10:25 AM
Anti-sh*tmitism exists because jews are assholes.


Very well thought out and put together response. :oo-->


Hey, I don't have to write out a 10 page essay, when in 6 words I can get to the root cause of the problem.

TPTB
7th July 2010, 12:17 PM
:D Book, why would you make such a silly assumption? I really don't have a dog in your fight, except that I'm interested in the pursuit of understanding, rather than the presumptive belief that I already understand.

Consider this. Why search for truth if you already believe you have it? Why bother asking questions when you already have the answers?

Philosophically or intellectually, I'm just not satisfied with absolutist statements like, " Jews are assholes" even though I'm well aware that some Jews, such as Madoff most certainly are assholes.

I think it's intellectually lazy and mentally delusional to determine the validity of an essay based solely on whether the author starts off with the same conclusions I already have, or if the conclusion is determined by whether the author is Jewish or Christian.


Gentiles instinctively sense that they are being morally 'shaken-down' by the huckster jews that employ these lowly tactics and they resent it.

Israel is a apartheid state founded by hardcore terrorists, built on ultranationalist political philosophy and justified by a total lie and hoax, the supposed 'Holocaust.' To compare Israel to the Nazis is an insult to the latter. The German National Socialists, despite their faults, were far more inclusionary and democratic than the racist xenophobic ultranationist Khazar Jews that rule Israel.

Very good post, Mamboni. It sounds like an echo of Carl Marx's quote that I posted above.


“What is the worldly cult of the Jew? Huckstering."

Marx made some good points. He's basically the one who came up with the word "capitalism."

Of course he was actually denigrating the International Jewish Banking Cabal when he used that word, capitalism. And according to Marx, communism comes as a consequence of capitalism.

At the moment I see National Socialism as an authoritarian police state created to bring about the transition of private ownership to central Bank ownership more rapidly. This is where we are heading as a Nation right now. Corporate Fascism. The only thing lacking to make us a National Socialist State like Nazi Germany, is a predominately theocratic puppet/dictator like Shekelgrabber.

In other words, all four political socio-economic ideologies, Capitalism, Corporate Fascism, Socialism and Communism are all intended to bring about the same end, One World Order.

Frankly, I don't think Capitalism has a damn thing to do with individual sovereignty or the inalienable rights of the individual. Capitalism has nothing to do with free enterprise.

But to bring it back into the threads context, I feel it's important to be able to read Jewish authors world views, especially about social and economic theory before offhandedly dismissing it as bad, or necessarily propagandist, although there is always that possibility.

And to attempt to denigrate me or other posters merely for the willingness to look at and post contrary opinions about articles like this one is really just a cheap personal attack on a fellow member and a desire to control others views. A sly slick slippery form of censorship.

Awoke
7th July 2010, 01:50 PM
But to bring it back into the threads context, I feel it's important to be able to read Jewish authors world views, especially about social and economic theory before offhandedly dismissing it as bad, or necessarily propagandist, although there is always that possibility.

And to attempt to denigrate me or other posters merely for the willingness to look at and post contrary opinions about articles like this one is really just a cheap personal attack on a fellow member and a desire to control others views. A sly slick slippery form of censorship.


You want to read more from jewish authors?



“The repeated invasion of the barbaric tribes and the countless wars caused the number of prisoners to rise, and the Jews carried on a lively slave trade, although they were not the only ones to do so.”56





“In the Jewish banking world Jakob Schiff not only distinguished himself through his knowledge of business and the dare-devilry of his inventive power, but he also occasioned very resolute plans and intentions, even if neither new nor original, concerning the leading political activity that each banking System should exert over the fates of the world: ‘The spiritual direction of human affairs.’




“ ‘All this’, says Wichtl, ‘is no mere suspicion, but legally proven facts, which have been intentionally concealed.’

“In Germany Marshal Echhorn and his adjutant, Captain von Dressler, were murdered on 30th July, 1918. The day before, the Paris Freemasons newspaper ‘Le Matin’ wrote that a patriotic secret society had offered a high price for the head of Echhorn. One can certainly imagine what kind of society supplied this information to ‘Le Matin’.

“In Italy Umberto I was murdered by the anarchist Pressi, who as a Freemason belonged to a lodge in Paterson, New Jersey, United States, even though he himself had not been to America. Thus the declaration that, in certain Degrees, arrogant men gave of the inscription on the cross, was transformed into its opposite: I.N.R.I. = Justum necare reges Italiae: it is just to murder the kings of Italy.

“On 26th March 1885, the Duke Carl III was murdered in Parma; the assassin, Antonio Carra, had the day before been chosen and incited at a secret session, whose chairmanship Lemmi performed; Lemmi was later all-highest Grandmaster of Italian Freemasonry, and as it appears, also of world Freemasonry. A certain Lippo had prepared a doll in order to illustrate how the most deadly dagger thrusts could be given, and the executioner was chosen by lots.

“On 22nd May, Ferdinand II of Naples died; he was given a poison in a slice of melon, which caused his terribly painful death. The instigator of this king’s death was a Freemason who belonged to one of the most criminal branches of this sect, to that of the so called ‘sublime and perfect Masters’. He was a disciple of Mazzini and one of the most respected persons of the royal court. Margiotta does not risk giving his name. (Marg. A. L. 21-34) With this author one can read about further countless crimes that were committed by Freemasonry in Italy. In Portugal, King Charles and his son Louis were murdered. The Freemasons prepared the fall of the monarchy. The venerable H. Magalhaes de Lima travelled in December 1907 to Paris, where he was solemnly received by H. Moses, the member of the Grand Lodge. Magalhaes held lectures, in which he announced ‘the fall of the monarchy in Portugal’ and the ‘imminent foundation of the republic’. The well-known opponent of Freemasonry, Abbé Tourmentin, wrote then that the Freemasons were clearly preparing a blow against the Portuguese royal family. He gave expression to his fear that within a short time King Charles would be driven out or murdered. Ten weeks later Tourmentin’s fears were fulfilled, and he openly and clearly accused the Freemasons of this murder. The latter preferred to keep silent. In America, one can read various details by Eckert concerning the persecution and murdering of Morgan in the United States, because he wished to publish a book revealing the secrets of Freemasonry; further, concerning the destruction of printing works and the persecution of the printer as well as other hateful crimes that followed upon this murder; concerning the public alarm that broke out when it was learned what favour the authorities, who as a rule were Freemasons, afforded the murderer and the support with which the Lodges regarded them (Eckert, II, 201 and sequel). Also known is the murder of the President of Ecuador, Garcia Moreno.


More to come, if you want. I have to leave this computer for now though. Things to do.

TPTB
7th July 2010, 03:35 PM
You want to read more from jewish authors?


Absolutely, Awoke...you're welcome to post any material you choose, but I think you'd agree that this forum shouldn't be limited to only that which fits your own preconceived views. That's why I'm posting here and not at GIM2. I want to be able to read and comment on all sides. I don't like censorship through bans or through bullying.

And while I do not and admittedly never will prescribe to the idea that ALL Jews are wicked, or that any broad category of people are inherently more evil than any other, I definitely accept that an ideological coup de tat may have occurred in which a Banking Cabal of European Zionists, who by the way, consider themselves to be anglo(white) in origin are currently at the top tiers of the MIC.

Horn
7th July 2010, 06:04 PM
Israel is a apartheid state founded by hardcore terrorists, built on ultranationalist political philosophy and justified by a total lie and hoax, the supposed 'Holocaust.' To compare Israel to the Nazis is an insult to the latter. The German National Socialists, despite their faults, were far more inclusionary and democratic than the racist xenophobic ultranationist Khazar Jews that rule Israel.


Finding any holes in these words is hard to do, ultranationalisitc theocracy is downright un-american.

wildcard
7th July 2010, 06:32 PM
Instead of an exorcism on hatred, maybe we need an exorcism on the jews.

Book
7th July 2010, 09:15 PM
That's why I'm posting here and not at GIM2. I want to be able to read and comment on all sides.



We all agree on this. What G-Khan once promised at GIM1...JQP actually delivers here at GSUS.

:)

Awoke
7th July 2010, 09:33 PM
Absolutely, Awoke...you're welcome to post any material you choose, but I think you'd agree that this forum shouldn't be limited to only that which fits your own preconceived views. That's why I'm posting here and not at GIM2. I want to be able to read and comment on all sides. I don't like censorship through bans or through bullying.


My views? I have countless quotes from philo-semetic jewish authors that admit to the global conspiracy and site articles of historic significance.
The only difficult thing is digging them out from books which are 800+ pages long.

The fact that you are selective in what you want to read has no bearing on the truth. These are not my preconcieved views, they are historical facts that are undeniable and confessed by jews.
As far as being a researcher of the jewish conspiracy goes, I would be a greenhorn compared to the long-time researchers. I've only just begun to expose the truth. Keep watching as I learn more.

Lastly, if you consider jews admitting that they are the engineers and implimentors of the conspiracy "bullying", so be it.



And while I do not and admittedly never will prescribe to the idea that ALL Jews are wicked, or that any broad category of people are inherently more evil than any other, I definitely accept that an ideological coup de tat may have occurred in which a Banking Cabal of European Zionists, who by the way, consider themselves to be anglo(white) in origin are currently at the top tiers of the MIC.


There is a jew under every stone I look under when I dig into my research of the conspiracy. Every one. That is not just coincidence. You can butter it over any way you like, but the truth is the truth.

Brent
8th July 2010, 07:45 AM
As usual, the jooz dance around the issue of WHY they have been and are so hated! It's always Christianity's fault. Jooz hate Christianity and have been working to destroy it for centuries. Jooz are hated because they are pure evil and greed, not because of something that happened 2000 years ago!


Actually Jews invented Christianity and the top Jews in charge no doubt love it as it has been one of the biggest single factors in holding the White race back and getting her to commit what is essentially racial suicide.

Brent
8th July 2010, 07:47 AM
Anti-sh*tmitism exists because jews are assholes.


Very well thought out and put together response. :oo-->


Where is your well thought out and put together response? Oh wait thats right you are here only to troll others and to in no way attempt to actually put something towards the discussion, only to interrupt it.

:oo--> Right back at ya.

Awoke
8th July 2010, 08:32 AM
Actually Jews invented Christianity and the top Jews in charge no doubt love it as it has been one of the biggest single factors in holding the White race back and getting her to commit what is essentially racial suicide.


If that is the case Brent, why does the jew exert such unrelenting focus on destroying the Church of Christ from within?

Grand Master Melon
8th July 2010, 08:58 AM
Anti-sh*tmitism exists because jews are assholes.


Very well thought out and put together response. :oo-->


Where is your well thought out and put together response? Oh wait thats right you are here only to troll others and to in no way attempt to actually put something towards the discussion, only to interrupt it.

:oo--> Right back at ya.
:oo-->

Silver Rocket Bitches!
8th July 2010, 09:22 AM
Also, there is a sense of resentment that builds up when you continually see you and your peers referred to as gentiles or goyim.

Horn
8th July 2010, 05:01 PM
Actually Jews invented Christianity and the top Jews in charge no doubt love it as it has been one of the biggest single factors in holding the White race back and getting her to commit what is essentially racial suicide.


If that is the case Brent, why does the jew exert such unrelenting focus on destroying the Church of Christ from within?


Cause they like to bust your stones