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joe_momma
8th July 2010, 03:18 PM
Mesherle verdict at 4 pm - Oakland police have asked all businesses to close and send employees home.

Details to follow......


.. update - the news that a verdict had been reached was announced at 14:50.

At 15:02 the PA system in my office announced that all employees must leave the building (and the area) immediately.


...... update - involuntary manslaughter

About 1/3 of the businesses in downtown Oakland had either boarded up or posted a "Justice for Oscar" (a.k.a. don't smash my windows) sign

undgrd
8th July 2010, 03:22 PM
http://www.fox40.com/news/headlines/ktxl-news-mesherleverdict0708,0,4362580.story


LOS ANGELES - A jury has reached a verdict in the trial of a former San Francisco Bay area transit officer accused of murdering an unarmed black man on an Oakland train platform.

The eight-woman, four-man panel is scheduled to read the verdict at 4 p.m. Thursday after deliberating since Wednesday.

Former officer Johannes Mehserle, who is white, has pleaded not guilty in the shooting of 22-year-old Oscar Grant when officers responded to a fight aboard a train that arrived at the Fruitvale station.

Mehserle claimed he mistakenly pulled his handgun instead of a Taser during the incident on New Year's Day 2009 that was videotaped by bystanders. The trial was moved from Alameda County to Los Angeles because of racial tensions and intense media coverage.

undgrd
8th July 2010, 03:29 PM
Sorry...don't know how to to embed this link.

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/static/flash/embeddedPlayer/swf/otvEmLoader.swf?version=&station=kgo&section=&mediaId=7544078&cdnRoot=http://cdn.abclocal.go.com&webRoot=http://abclocal.go.com&site=

ximmy
8th July 2010, 03:30 PM
draw your own stun gun... hand gun... conclusion...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZTbJH6BNaU&feature=fvw

Large Sarge
8th July 2010, 04:11 PM
the verdict should be in by now

Apparition
8th July 2010, 04:17 PM
He's been found him guilty of involuntary manslaughter:


Former BART officer convicted of involuntary manslaughter

Prosecutors accused Johannes Mehserle of intentionally firing his handgun as he tried to handcuff Oscar J. Grant III on New Year's Day 2009. Mehserle testified that he thought he was pulling out his electric Taser weapon and not a firearm.

A former transit police officer who fatally shot an unarmed man at an Oakland train station was convicted of involuntary manslaughter Thursday, capping a racially charged case that raised fears in the Bay Area of possible violence after the verdict.

Prosecutors accused the ex-officer of intentionally firing his handgun as he tried to handcuff Oscar J. Grant III on New Year's Day 2009. Johannes Mehserle, 28, tearfully testified that the shooting was a tragic accident caused when he mistakenly grabbed his firearm instead of an electric Taser weapon during a struggle with Grant.

The shooting was captured on video by several witnesses. Mehserle, who is white, fired a single round into the back of Grant, who was black and was lying face-down on the station platform. Mehserle resigned a week after the shooting.

The killing provoked protests and violence in Oakland. The case, which has drawn comparisons to the videotaped beating of Rodney G. King that ultimately triggered riots in Los Angeles in 1992, was moved to Los Angeles for trial amid concern about the extensive media coverage of the slaying in the Bay Area.

Many civil rights activists considered the case a test of how the justice system treats police officers accused of abusing minorities. The trial also captured the attention of law enforcement officers who feared that a guilty verdict could raise the stakes for cops who make mistakes.

The shooting occurred soon after police responded to reports of a fight on a train stopped at the Fruitvale Station. Grant and four friends were detained by a different police officer who prosecutors said used excessive force against the men. Mehserle arrived on the platform after the men had been detained.

Alameda County Deputy Dist. Atty. David R. Stein rejected the idea that the shooting was a mistake, telling jurors that Mehserle's holster was specially designed to prevent easy release of his firearm. The prosecutor contrasted the light, bright yellow Taser gun with the heavier black Sig Sauer handgun that Mehserle fired.

"He let his aggression dictate his conduct," Stein told jurors.

The prosecutor urged jurors to find Mehserle guilty of second-degree murder, pointing out that the officer never told his colleagues that night that the shooting was an accident.

Prosecutors in Los Angeles have not won a murder conviction in a police shooting case since 1983.

Mehserle testified that he intended to use his Taser because he believed Grant, 22, might be reaching for a gun in his pants pocket. While the officer's firearm was on his right side, the Taser was in a holster on the left side of his belt but angled so that it could be pulled out with his right hand.

Two people, including a friend of Grant's, testified that they heard the officer say he intended to use his Taser shortly before the shooting. In at least six other instances, officers have said they made the same mistake of firing a handgun when they intended to use a Taser.

Numerous witnesses said Mehserle looked shocked after the gunshot. Defense attorney Michael L. Rains said video footage shows his client holding his head in his hands in despair.

"He's sick to his stomach," Rains told jurors, "because he has shot a man who did not deserve to be shot."

Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-bart-verdict-20100709,0,4753049.story


Prepare for the riots...

Hopefully, I believe I live far away enough so that the insanity won't spread so much into my neighborhood.

willie pete
8th July 2010, 04:21 PM
From the Times:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-bart-verdict-20100709,0,4753049.story

StackerKen
8th July 2010, 04:53 PM
have the riots started yet?

Apparition
8th July 2010, 04:55 PM
Anytime soon...

BrewTech
8th July 2010, 05:26 PM
A bit o' live coverage...

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/livenow?id=7544444

joe_momma
8th July 2010, 06:13 PM
Nothing will happen until the sun sets (~8:30 pm PDT) - they're working themselves into a frenzy (IMHO) -

Book
8th July 2010, 06:23 PM
have the riots started yet?


http://donatreides.com/journal/popeyes.jpg

:o

StackerKen
8th July 2010, 08:45 PM
did they start yet?

jetgraphics
8th July 2010, 11:17 PM
YUP, they did...
Riots Break Out in Oakland Over Police Involuntary Manslaughter Verdict
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july082010/grant-death-tk.php

Olmstein
9th July 2010, 10:30 PM
Involuntary manslaughter sounds about right for this crime. Let's hope he gets the maximum prison sentence.


CA penal code section 193:

Involuntary manslaughter is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for two, three, or four years.

Phoenix
9th July 2010, 10:33 PM
Involuntary manslaughter sounds about right for this crime. Let's hope he gets the maximum prison sentence.


I honestly can't see how it was "involuntary" in any way.

He's facing a weapons enhancement on the IM charge, so it could be 5 years to 14 years.

Olmstein
9th July 2010, 10:42 PM
I suppose they could have convicted him of voluntary manslaughter too. The law is a bit vague.


(a)Voluntary--upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion.

(b)Involuntary--in the commission of an unlawful act, not amounting to felony; or in the commission of a lawful act which might produce death, in an unlawful manner, or without due caution and circumspection. This subdivision shall not apply to acts committed in the driving of a vehicle.

CA Penal Code - Section 192 (http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/PEN/3/1/8/1/s192)

Phoenix
10th July 2010, 12:24 AM
I suppose they could have convicted him of voluntary manslaughter too. The law is a bit vague.


(a)Voluntary--upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion.

(b)Involuntary--in the commission of an unlawful act, not amounting to felony; or in the commission of a lawful act which might produce death, in an unlawful manner, or without due caution and circumspection. This subdivision shall not apply to acts committed in the driving of a vehicle.

CA Penal Code - Section 192 (http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/PEN/3/1/8/1/s192)


Yes, the jury options were 2nd degree, voluntary, and involuntary.