Fingerprints Now Required At Poway Skate Park

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Fingerprints Now Required At Poway Skate Park (http://www.10news.com/news/24202545/detail.html)
New Security Measure Took Effect Friday Evening

POSTED: 2:33 pm PDT July 9, 2010
UPDATED: 7:57 pm PDT July 9, 2010

POWAY, Calif. -- A popular skate park in Poway unveiled a new security measure Friday that is being met with some opposition.

At the Poway Skate Park, surveillance cameras capture the every move of every visitor. Additionally, motion detectors are also present and a wrought iron fence surrounds the park. Some visitors said the security measures are a bit much.

"This is the only facility, I'd say, in the San Diego area that has this big reinforcement around it and the turnstile. I've been here when law enforcement causes problems for kids. They come in here and everyone panics, they start feverishly running and they get hurt on the bowls," said skater Doug Marker.

Up until 6 p.m. Friday, skaters could simply walk right through and pretty much do whatever they want.

After 6 p.m., however, a fingerprint scan will be required in order to enter the skate park. Skaters will have to register their fingerprints and have a photo taken in advance.

City officials said the new security measure will allow law enforcement to determine who was at the park if something were to happen there. The city also said the added security measure is an effort to stop an increase in vandalism, drug use and break ins that have plagued the park for the last five years.

"This is a city park; it has to be returned to the citizens. We want kids in here, we want adults in here, we want a secure, safe environment; this is not a free-for-all," said Poway City Councilman Jim Cunningham.

"If they didn't have all this here, they wouldn't need it because the thrill of climbing the fence and spray painting and stuff like that wouldn't be here," said skater David Hamm.

Some parents 10News spoke to said all the security still won't be enough.

"I think what they really need is to have someone supervise, but I don't know if that is possible," said parent Michelle Keeler.

City officials said staffing full-time supervision would cost around $80,000 a year and is not possible financially at this time.

The park cost $1 million to build in 2003, and all of the security upgrades will cost around $91,000.

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Is it a private skate park that receives no local funding?

If that's the case then, as much as I disagree with it, I believe it's acceptable for them to do such so long as a contract has been established between the parties.

It's about private property rights here.

I repeat, I DISAGREE with their business practice but because a private establishment is engaging in such activities as a precondition to entering the private property it should be allowed.

I certainly wouldn't conduct business with them and I'd recommend my family and friends follow suit.

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Is it a private skate park that receives no local funding?

If that's the case then, as much as I disagree with it, I believe it's acceptable for them to do such so long as a contract has been established between the parties.

It's about private property rights here.

I repeat, I DISAGREE with their business practice but because a private establishment is engaging in such activities as a precondition to entering the private property it should be allowed.

I certainly wouldn't conduct business with them and I'd recommend my family and friends follow suit.


Article says its a city owned park. Whats even more interesting is that they claim it would cost too much to hire a 24 hour staff at 80 grand a year, but its NOT too much to pay 91,000 for new security upgrades and equipment.s ::)

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Article says its a city owned park. Whats even more interesting is that they claim it would cost too much to hire a 24 hour staff at 80 grand a year, but its NOT too much to pay 91,000 for new security upgrades and equipment.s ::)'

Thanks for the clarification.

So, in this case, I'll have to disagree with whoever runs it.

But what's the solution to this problem? Suing the owners would require tax-funded dollars to be used in defense.

Perhaps only boycotts, protests, and discouragement will work but that'll be lengthy.

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Article says its a city owned park. Whats even more interesting is that they claim it would cost too much to hire a 24 hour staff at 80 grand a year, but its NOT too much to pay 91,000 for new security upgrades and equipment.s ::)'

Thanks for the clarification.

So, in this case, I'll have to disagree with whoever runs it.

But what's the solution to this problem? Suing the owners would require tax-funded dollars to be used in defense.

Perhaps only boycotts, protests, and discouragement will work but that'll be lengthy.


Boycotts and protest out in front would likley be the most effective. I dont think you could sue, since to use the citys services you have to agree to the citys tersm (pay taxes, etc) and they arent forcing you to skate there. The unfortunate thing is that most of the people that skate there will be young kids who wont give a damn and will just bend over and do it, even if their parents may not be happy about it.

Whats even more unfortunate is that its in Cali, so chances are their parents think its a brilliant idea and will take there kids down there by the hand to get printed and carded so they can skate (and get out of their parents hair for a while) and this will teach the kids that this kind of thing is "good".

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