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Serpo
13th July 2010, 11:32 PM
India is hurting for water. With rapidly growing populations of people and a rising middle class that is mimicking the wasteful water consumption habits well known here in the United States, coupled with poor water management practices, India is set to be one of the first parts of the world hit by a major water crisis. Still, does that mean shipping water from Alaska all the way to India is a smart solution? One Texas-based water supply management company, S2C Global Systems, thinks it is -- at least, it's smart for their bottom line, if not for the environment. They're all lined up to ship billions of gallons of water annually from an Alaskan city to India, and other parts of Asia and the Middle East.

Circle of Blue brings our attention to a press release on the company's website.

Sitka, Alaska will sell water from its Blue Lake Reservoir for a penny a gallon to Alaska Resource Management, a company formed by S2C and True Alaska Bottling, will export as much as 2.9 billion gallons each year, providing the city with as much as $26 million annually. It could earn as much as $90 million annually if it can sell off the rest of its maximum water right of 9 billion gallons.

According to Circle of Blue, "This will be the world's first large-volume exports of water via tanker: companies have tried unsuccessfully for more than two decades to break open the bulk water export market. Past attempts have been thwarted by daunting logistics, concerns about natural resource sovereignty and commodification as well as the availability of cheaper local sources."

Fresh water is set to be the next "big oil" of the world, with supplies in some areas growing exceedingly tight. Technologies from smart metering to irrigation management to purification all seem to be slower to reach areas like India than tankers of exported water. However, while businesses are dashing to find a profit in water exportation, water management will need to become far more popular globally if we're to avoid a worldwide water shortage.

S2C is set to start shipping water within eight months, using tankers that have a "Ozonating" system onboard to keep the water clean. The shipping of the water alone sounds incredibly energy intensive. According to the release:

[T]his first hub will include a berth for a Suezmax vessel (156,000 cubic meters/41Million USG), an offloading system to a dedicated tank farm and a distribution complex for packaged water. Within 18 months after that we will be able to switch to a very large class vessel (302,833 cubic meters/80 Million USG), as both the ship and the berth for her will be completed within this time frame. Contracts for the distribution hub and ships are being finalized.

The company will be able to sell from its hub bulk fresh water by way of smaller ships that can deliver to shallower ports, like Umm Qasr in Iraq (located within 4 days of India's west coast). S2C will also sell fresh water in 20-foot containers with flexi-tanks (4623 USG) suitable for pharmaceutical/high tech manufacturing and packaged water (18.9 and 10L) for the consumer markets anywhere containers are delivered in south and west Asia from India.

While water exportation sounds inefficient and potentially environmentally dangerous, it is getting little opposition from Alaskans.

"It's been something we've talked about quite a bit in the community," Sitka's mayor Scott McAdams told Circle of Blue in May. "There's not a lot of opposition to it. In this borough we have 8,600 people, but we have a renewable resource of water that could meet the needs of a metropolitan area. We do have excess water."

Excess water...for now, and for the population of people in their area. But for the environment that is used to an abundance of water, how might large exportation like this impact it? Canada has also had an opportunity of water exports as a potentially profitable industry for years, but recognition of how it could negatively impact the ecosystems of the rivers and lakes from which the water is drawn has stopped forward momentum -- let alone the cost in carbon footprints. Just as is the case with energy management, smart water management could spare us from needing to haul water half way across the globe at major environmental expenses.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/07/us-company-set-to-ship-billions-of-gallons-of-water-from-alaska-to-india.php

Apparition
14th July 2010, 12:02 AM
Aren't there any Indian scientists and engineers present in India who are capable of starting up water desalination plants or is it too expensive to do such?

Phoenix
14th July 2010, 12:37 AM
Aren't there any Indian scientists and engineers present in India who are capable of starting up water desalination plants or is it too expensive to do such?




You haven't called Indian "tech support" lately I guess.

;D

Phoenix
14th July 2010, 12:42 AM
I don't suppose the environmental nuts are going to jump on this? After all, they're all whiny about me buying bottled spring water. "Oh, the carbon footprint!"

Ponce
14th July 2010, 08:29 AM
At one time they were talking about pulling a whole iceberg all the way to India with a tugboat...they even had a company all ready to go but nothing came out of that, like I keep saying "Future wars will be over water and not over oil"........Blue Oil.

Brent
14th July 2010, 11:05 AM
More White resources used to help turd worlders. What a surprise. :oo-->

Like Ponce has said (not that it was in anyway an original idea of his) the future wars will be over water and not oil.

StackerKen
14th July 2010, 11:20 AM
I wonder what these countrys that need water think of all the water parks here in the U.S.?

We have so much water we make water parks and Play in it!

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/13/bd/36/powell.jpg http://florida-vacation-house.com/about/sightseeing/sun-splash-water-park.jpg

JohnQPublic
14th July 2010, 11:30 AM
Here's what to do with all that water.

NAWAPA (http://www.applet-magic.com/NAWAPA.htm)

http://www.applet-magic.com/NAWAPA01.gif

I guess we could pay for it with the Amero! ;)

Ponce
14th July 2010, 12:24 PM
There is plenty of rain water in California and a way to hold it for use...........they are just to damn stupid to do it.

Book
14th July 2010, 01:59 PM
I wonder what these countrys that need water think of all the water parks here in the U.S.? We have so much water we make water parks and Play in it!



http://www.lostwackys.com/images/products/mr-potato-head.jpg

Imagine some starving kid in Africa watching American kids PLAY with their food.

:o

Liquid
14th July 2010, 02:11 PM
At one time they were talking about pulling a whole iceberg all the way to India with a tugboat...

Ponce, you completely read my mind on this one. It would not be that difficult, to tow a whole iceberg down there.

Actually, I'm surprised it has not been done yet.

Phoenix
14th July 2010, 04:26 PM
There is plenty of rain water in California and a way to hold it for use...........they are just to damn stupid to do it.


http://www.auburndam.org/

Ponce
14th July 2010, 06:24 PM
Liquid? do a search in "Populat Mechanics" an "Popular Science" the story is in one of those two.

Phoenix
14th July 2010, 07:41 PM
Liquid? do a search in "Populat Mechanics" an "Popular Science" the story is in one of those two.


It appears the idea's been around since at least 1863 (lower right corner of p. 114):

<a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=gDRJAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA114&lpg=PA114&dq=tow+iceberg+to+india&source=bl&ots=PPXW0xHWuL&sig=LJfEJ0Y7vGEo8wiaUl5FML7tnbA&hl=en&ei=k3Q-TLP8NoGGnQeWqOCDBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CCwQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q&f=false">Click Here</a>

JDRock
15th July 2010, 08:36 AM
Aren't there any Indian scientists and engineers present in India who are capable of starting up water desalination plants or is it too expensive to do such?




You haven't called Indian "tech support" lately I guess.

;D



baaaaahahaa....waaddy guuud ....waaddy guud :lol

Liquid
15th July 2010, 10:51 AM
Liquid? do a search in "Populat Mechanics" an "Popular Science" the story is in one of those two.


Thanks. This idea has been around for awhile actually. I did a google search and found this article from 1977..

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,915637,00.html

Hugginator
15th July 2010, 06:27 PM
Send them this

Serpo
15th July 2010, 06:31 PM
Send them this




Im afraid we may have to bring in a censor rating for ice bergs

Liquid
15th July 2010, 07:18 PM
Send them this




That's one massive phallic symbol... It would be quite poetic to tow that down there. Upon arrival, it would be sure to make the media. Check out this big dick we brought you.

It may very well end the industry of iceberg towing. ;D