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madfranks
16th July 2010, 11:41 AM
Casually noticed it while going for a drink. What the eff is up with this country when we can't even make our own apple juice.

MNeagle
16th July 2010, 11:43 AM
After I brought home some 'organic' broccoli from Costco, I looked closer at the label. Yup. From China!!

Phoenix
16th July 2010, 11:47 AM
Casually noticed it while going for a drink. What the eff is up with this country when we can't even make our own apple juice.


We can make our own apple juice, but "free market capitalism" has dictated that we "lowly" types should risk our health in exchange for higher profits.

StackerKen
16th July 2010, 11:50 AM
Thats crazy

Does anything make sense these days?

???

zusn
16th July 2010, 11:56 AM
After I brought home some 'organic' broccoli from Costco, I looked closer at the label. Yup. From China!!
Costco has a ton of different food stuffs from China. It's pretty bad when you have to look at country of origin before buying food or drink. And don't get fooled by the "Packaged in the USA" label. Where did the crap come from that was packaged here?

1970 silver art
16th July 2010, 11:56 AM
Apple juice from China = Do not drink & do not buy.

What is NOT made in China? It seems like everything is made in China. I guess I better pay closer attention to the labels when I go grocery shopping.

DMac
16th July 2010, 11:56 AM
It all makes perfect sense. Slaves provide for America and right now the bulk of slaves live in Asia.

Imagine 150 years ago, someone from the north may have complained that his apple juice was farmed by southern slaves, what, we can't pick apples on our own up north anymore??

History repeats.

sirgonzo420
16th July 2010, 11:59 AM
I started noticing the chinese apple juice a few months ago. :'(

Now I don't buy apple juice.

I don't like chinese food... from sweet and sour chicken to apple juice.

Carbon
16th July 2010, 12:01 PM
Casually noticed it while going for a drink. What the eff is up with this country when we can't even make our own apple juice.


The concentrate is from one of their colonies. They ship it to china then to here. If you bought apple juice made in the states, it would lack the qualities that imported juice acquires from cheap processing, unregulated chemicals, and the subtle flavor changes from plastic bottles that leach more chemicals into the juice while shipped for weeks in boiling hot shipping containers.

You get way more bang for your buck with imported fruit juices - what's the problem, really?

Phoenix
16th July 2010, 01:13 PM
I don't like chinese food... from sweet and sour chicken to apple juice.


http://www2.fundeposit.com/That%20wasn%27t%20chicken%20-%20fortune%20cookie.jpg

MNeagle
16th July 2010, 01:14 PM
Just looked at our Costco apples: "From Chile".

Phoenix
16th July 2010, 01:14 PM
If anyone likes mushrooms and buys them in a can, most canned mushrooms are imported from China. And I've heard a rumor, probably not unfounded, that Chinese mushrooms are grown on human feces.

Shami-Amourae
16th July 2010, 01:16 PM
You could always buy a Juicer, and juice the apples yourself. That's what I do.

Just get over the fact the juicer was also made in China!

Skirnir
16th July 2010, 01:19 PM
China is the largest producer of apples, so it is reasonable that the concentrate for the juice be made there too.

SLV^GLD
16th July 2010, 01:20 PM
Champion juicers are manufactured in California. They kick ass.

Who the hell eats canned mushrooms?! Blech!!

Phoenix
16th July 2010, 01:21 PM
Just get over the fact the juicer was also made in China!


Champions, still made in my hometown, Lodi, CA:

http://www.championjuicer.com/

http://www.alphaomegafood.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=49_50_16_6

TheNocturnalEgyptian
16th July 2010, 01:40 PM
China is the largest producer of apples, so it is reasonable that the concentrate for the juice be made there too.


That's certainly logical, but when we're discussing what's reasonable, it's very reasonable to want some juice that didn't cross an ocean and a continent to get to your glass.

Skirnir
16th July 2010, 01:51 PM
China is the largest producer of apples, so it is reasonable that the concentrate for the juice be made there too.


That's certainly logical, but when we're discussing what's reasonable, it's very reasonable to want some juice that didn't cross an ocean and a continent to get to your glass.


logical (adj)
* of or according to the rules of logic or formal argument:a logical impossibility
* characterized by clear, sound reasoning:the information is displayed in a simple and logical fashion
* (of an action, development, decision, etc.) natural or sensible given the circumstances:it is a logical progression from the job before
* capable of clear rational thinking:her logical mind

reasonable (adj)
* 1 (of a person) having sound judgement; fair and sensible: no reasonable person could have objected
* based on good sense:it seems a reasonable enough request the guilt of a person on trial must be proved beyond reasonable doubt
* archaic(of a person or animal) able to think, understand, or form judgements by a logical process:man is by nature reasonable
* 2 as much as is appropriate or fair; moderate: a police officer may use reasonable force to gain entry
* fairly good; average: the carpet is in reasonable condition
* (of a price or product) not too expensive: a restaurant serving excellent food at reasonable prices they are lovely shoes and very reasonable

It seems unreasonable to be finicky about the origin of one's product if quality is not an issue. If nothing else, if it is not economical to use North American apples that have crossed continent nor ocean, it may make the product unreasonable. If the concern is with the quality of the product, it is something apart form your preference of concentrate used from North American apples.

Finally, based upon the above definition, that which is logical is also reasonable, though that which is reasonable is not always logical due to the subjective and culture-specific nature of parts of the definition.

ximmy
16th July 2010, 01:56 PM
it's all good.. a morning supply of preserved apple juice from China, together with your Doctor's prescription for prozac, ritalin & adderall keeps you going all day

sirgonzo420
16th July 2010, 02:07 PM
If anyone likes mushrooms and buys them in a can, most canned mushrooms are imported from China. And I've heard a rumor, probably not unfounded, that Chinese mushrooms are grown on human feces.


Every now and then I like a particular variety of mushroom that is not available in a can, is definitely not from china, and isn't grown on human waste (although in the wild they tend to pop up on bovine feces).


;D

philo beddoe
16th July 2010, 02:33 PM
China can kiss my ass........and so can gookophiles :o

JohnQPublic
16th July 2010, 02:33 PM
Johnny Appleseed is rolling in his grave!

http://johnnyappleseedbiography.com/images/johnny_appleseed.png

Phoenix
16th July 2010, 03:15 PM
China is the largest producer of apples, so it is reasonable that the concentrate for the juice be made there too.


That's certainly logical, but when we're discussing what's reasonable, it's very reasonable to want some juice that didn't cross an ocean and a continent to get to your glass.


Ideally, we should eat and drink locally grown produce. However, I have no problem eating or drinking produce from a far-away country that actually enforces health standards.

China is not that country. With Chinese products, one never knows - and likely should assume negatively - that the product is wholesome and pure.

Phoenix
16th July 2010, 03:16 PM
[quote=Phoenix ]

Every now and then I like a particular variety of mushroom that is not available in a can, is definitely not from china, and isn't grown on human waste (although in the wild they tend to pop up on bovine feces).


;D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI

General of Darkness
16th July 2010, 03:23 PM
Once there's lawlessness, The one thing that's not on my to do list is putting my nutz on some dinks chin. Dunno if I should add that, probably won't.

EE_
16th July 2010, 04:15 PM
Let me explain how this works...
The US has higher standards then most third world countries.
The elite know this all over the world and they are willing to pay a premium for the healthy food grown in the US.
So you may live next to one of the best produce farms in the country, but we will ship this food to top shelf restraunts and elite grocery outlets elsewhere and around the world for more profit, and purchase the polutant laiden, piss/human feces grown, loaded with harmful pesticides, unhealthful crap from places like Mexico, Vietnam and China.
The good news is, you will get the prices you (of the lowly cattle variety humanoid) deserve and have come to expect!
Enjoy your dinner!
http://www.filmsquish.com/guts/files/images/1881629116_b2bc9c56fc_o.JPG
That's my take.

StackerKen
16th July 2010, 04:24 PM
I think you nailed it EE

MNeagle
16th July 2010, 04:41 PM
O.K. I had to go check my mushrooms. One only says "packaged in PA" and the other brand (Green Giant, a MN company!!) says 'product of Indonesia'!! I'm really going to start reading more closely!

TheNocturnalEgyptian
16th July 2010, 04:51 PM
Skirnir, wake up. Quality is almost the entire issue.

sirgonzo420
16th July 2010, 04:55 PM
Skirnir, wake up. Quality is almost the entire issue.


I think he left...

gunDriller
16th July 2010, 04:58 PM
Casually noticed it while going for a drink. What the eff is up with this country when we can't even make our own apple juice.


DON'T DRINK IT !

trusting corporate China (or corporate America) with your health = bad idea.

ximmy
16th July 2010, 05:01 PM
Nothing is wasted in China: human waste is collected from family outhouses and used as fertilizer. Outhouses in rural China are often placed near the pig sties so waste can be collected from both sources and used for fertilizer. China has a long history of using human excrement—“night soil”—as fertilizer. The morning distribution of night soil is common sight throughout China.

Human waster is still widely used. It is often stored in fields in decorated cauldrons. Human waste is not a big environmental or health concern. More troubling is the factory run-off and medical waste that find its way into the sewer system that produces sludge-based fertilizers laced with heavy metals and toxic chemicals.

Urine is collected in 65-gallon drums and used for medicine and fertilizer. Theroux saw a sign over a urinal at a public restroom that read "We would like good quality urine, so please do not put anything in—no spitting, no paper, no cigarette butts."

It is estimated that the citizens of Shanghai produce over 10,000 tons of human shit everyday and much of it gathered up at night, put in barrels, transported to fields around the city, and scooped out as fertilizer. Until the early 2000s, human waste was moved in Shanghai by boats poled along the city's shallow canals and streams by women. In 2001, 4,700 tons of feces and 19,000 tons of trash traveled to processing stations and landfills by the poled boat. These boats however recently have been replaced by mechanized vessels which cover their cargo with blue traps.
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Most crops in China are raised with pesticides, chemical fertilizers and sewage sludge. Fertilizer is subsidized and is cheaper than its real cost. Farmers overuse it and overuse causes environmental damage.

China has very advanced agricultural research centers and laboratories that do research and churn out reams of data on the latest fertilizers, pollution risks and genetically-engineered crops The problem is that the data and insights these researchers come up with rarely finds its way to farmers, who mostly rely on the pesticide and fertilizer salesmen to keep them informed. Even then necessity often keeps them from following directions. Villagers given instructions to use the pesticides only once every 15 days are likely to use pesticides more frequently than that if their crops are being swarmed by insects.

These practices are sometimes blamed on high levels of chemicals found in agricultural products and in streams and rivers that receive a lot of agricultural run-off. Shipments of plums, lemons, star fruit, kumquts, scallions and ginseng to the United States have been blocked by U.S. Food and Drug Administration because of problems with pesticides and toxic additives.

http://factsanddetails.com/china.php?itemid=348&catid=9&subcatid=63

EE_
16th July 2010, 05:05 PM
http://static.stuff.co.nz/1260056701/375/3130375.jpg

sunshine05
16th July 2010, 06:37 PM
O.K. I had to go check my mushrooms. One only says "packaged in PA" and the other brand (Green Giant, a MN company!!) says 'product of Indonesia'!! I'm really going to start reading more closely!


Yeah, it's getting bad. I remember a couple years ago I realized the Dole and DelMonte fruit cups were made in foreign countries (can't remember where now) and my kids loved them. I wrote letters to both and complained but they said "the quality standards are the same, etc". Yeah, right. I started really noticing that it was almost impossible to find things made here. I recently started buying Honest Kids Organic juices for my boys. I *think* they are made in PA or MD. I'm a big label reader now for everything and when I can I buy local.

Gypsybiker45
16th July 2010, 07:03 PM
Imported apples from China, while they rot on the trees in Michigan come fall........figures

Silver Rocket Bitches!
16th July 2010, 07:16 PM
What's next, chopsticks made in China???

Kali
16th July 2010, 07:24 PM
Pasteurized fruit juice is worthless no matter which country it comes from.

Ponce
16th July 2010, 08:21 PM
I am lucky to have seven apple trees and they produce more than a woman from Harlem, I take much of it to someone who makes apples pies to sell and I can eat as much of them as I want.

About oranges, apples and grapes.............I have a surprise for you........must of them are grown under the supervision of Israelis, they have much land all over the world and the natives grow it for them.......even in Cuba they have a very large orange field or fields..... I don't mind telling you that the fields were very good looking and clean.