Bay Area needs to become a city-state

[Bullfrog]

One of the reasons that I think revolutions happen so often in Europe, is because the size of the countries allow for more people to actively and spontaneously participate. It's not the main factor, but is a contributing factor.

click to read more (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/10/INEK1EAPGN.DTL)


That is why the Bay Area needs to start thinking like a city-state. In an age when nations have become so large that their citizens no longer identify with distant governments, city-states are political units large enough to have a global economic impact but small enough for even the most casual citizen to understand the relationships that make their city-state work. Politicians are local and thus more inclined to pragmatism and constructive action. Businesses understand that their fortunes are tied to the success of the local community. This balance between effect and size and the tendency toward social cohesion make contemporary city-states like Singapore and Hong Kong bright spots in an uncertain global economy.

The Bay Area has all the qualities of a successful city-state. Consider geography: The Bay Area isn't an island like Singapore but, like Hong Kong, it is defined by a central bay and bordered by mountains. There are no "Welcome to the Bay Area" signs on our highways, yet we all know where we leave the rest of California and enter the Bay Area.

Successful city-states have outsize economies compared to their neighbors'. If the Bay Area were to secede from California, it would instantly become the world's 25th largest economy, ahead of Austria, Taiwan, Greece and Denmark.

[Bullfrog]

I wonder if anyone has done a study on number of revolutions per square mile? Gonna look around for that in a bit.

[Ponce]

Froggie? very very true.......time for them to go out on their own.....who needs excess baggage?

[keehah]

One of the problems with this thinking....

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Metro+Vancouver+should+have+power+raise+income+sal es+taxes+report/3284188/story.html#ixzz0ty887nsS]July (http://Read more: [url) 15, 2010: Metro Vancouver should have power to raise income, sales taxes: report[/url]

VANCOUVER - Metro Vancouver should have the power to impose personal income and sales taxes on the region’s residents to help pay for bridges and other expensive infrastructure, says a report commissioned by the regional authority.

Metro directors found the idea “enticing,” but figured they would have a tough time convincing the provincial government to grant them new tax powers.

The report, by Trent University Prof. Harry Kitchen, suggests Metro Vancouver should lobby the B.C. government for permission to impose the taxes that would be set locally and “piggybacked” on the provincial income tax and the harmonized sales tax.

A one-per-cent surcharge on the 2008 provincial personal income tax, for instance, would have yielded $37 million, Kitchen said. On the HST, it would bring in $450 million.

“Municipal governments face significant infrastructure funding challenges and revision to the tax distribution system should be contemplated,” Kitchen told Metro’s finance committee Thursday.

“Municipalities should have access to more than the property tax..

As an aside, it is interesting to see now that Vancouver lost its Hotel tax July 1 (as it was incorporated into a larger Hotel tax increase due to the harmonized HST) and just two weeks later it is being reported Vancouver needs a way to tax Hotel guests more.

[Liquid]

Froggie? very very true.......time for them to go out on their own.....who needs excess baggage?


It would be great for this to happen, but with the America's Cup coming to San Francisco in 2013/2014...the Bay Area is going to boom. Billions of revenue, jobs, growth will come to the area. I think Cali is going to rely on the tax income from this boom. This is why this fantastic idea will never happen.

[JohnQPublic]

One of the problems with this thinking....

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Metro+Vancouver+should+have+power+raise+income+sal es+taxes+report/3284188/story.html#ixzz0ty887nsS]July (http://Read more: [url) 15, 2010: Metro Vancouver should have power to raise income, sales taxes: report[/url]

VANCOUVER - Metro Vancouver should have the power to impose personal income and sales taxes on the region’s residents to help pay for bridges and other expensive infrastructure, says a report commissioned by the regional authority.

Metro directors found the idea “enticing,” but figured they would have a tough time convincing the provincial government to grant them new tax powers.

The report, by Trent University Prof. Harry Kitchen, suggests Metro Vancouver should lobby the B.C. government for permission to impose the taxes that would be set locally and “piggybacked” on the provincial income tax and the harmonized sales tax.

A one-per-cent surcharge on the 2008 provincial personal income tax, for instance, would have yielded $37 million, Kitchen said. On the HST, it would bring in $450 million.

“Municipal governments face significant infrastructure funding challenges and revision to the tax distribution system should be contemplated,” Kitchen told Metro’s finance committee Thursday.

“Municipalities should have access to more than the property tax..

As and aside it is interesting to see that now that Vancouver lost its Hotel tax July 1 (as it was incorporated into a larger Hotel tax increase due to the harmonized HST) and just two weeks later it is being reported Vancouver needs a way to tax Hotel guests more.


What I found more interesting is the proposal from Pat Buchanan that British Columbia secede from Canada and join the US. We would then have a contiguous nation from the Mexican border through Alaska (where you can see Russia from the houses).

[Bullfrog]

The way I understand it, is that the city-state becomes the top layer of government.
So they wouldn't be asking permission to raise taxes, as the state and federal levels would not exist. I don't know if this would be good or bad, just started thinking about it.

[Book]

What I found more interesting is the proposal from Pat Buchanan that British Columbia secede from Canada and join the US. We would then have a contiguous nation from the Mexican border through Alaska (where you can see Russia from the houses).



Mexico annexed California years ago...lol.

:D

[Bullfrog]

making progress on my research maybe...

more at the link (http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Revolution)

“In America, you say you want a revolution. In Soviet Russia, revolution wants YOU!!”
~ Yakov Smirnoff on revolutions

“We all want to change the world.”
~ The Beatles on revolutions

“It's REVOLUTION up in this bitch! Sound the alarm! Defcon 5!”
~ Dave Chappell on killing white people

“Iи кюммцйіѕт яцssia, яцssiaйs язverse чюц!!”
~ Дядя Гарт on Амеязка

“Viva La Revolution!”
~ Random patriotic Frenchie not realizing that he is not in the early 19th century

RIAA-backed counter-revolutionary forces attempt to stop spinning 33rpm hard disk

Revolution was invented by William Revolution. Revolution is the utmost conformity with non-authority and it is the greatest thoughtcrime to think of revolution. A revolution is an uprising of slowly rotating peoples, angered at realising that they've been merely going around in circles for years. These people often fall over due to a loss of equilibrium and of dizziness. This is known as 'dance-dance'. A country's Revolutions Per Minute (RPM) can be used to estimate how quickly that country isn't progressing.

The power created from the motion of these misunderstood people, identified by their "power to the people" slogan, is harnessed through inner-laid copper conductors which absorb the life and soul of the rotating subject. These copper conductors then transform the centripital force of the rotations into a used form of lithium ion batteries which then, in turn, fuel the senators and other empirical officials of the empire like Senator Palpatine and even Yoda himself.

The revolutionary war was a war between good and evil but neither won. This was because it is so revolutionary that it completely revolutionised how wars were fought and lost.

Originally a term used to explain the inner workings of the galactic empirical army who run life, the universe and everything, the Revolution is currently fronted by the evil artist formerly known as Prince.

'Revolution' might also be used to define a 'person' (aka. humanoid)

İt is also a well documented historic fact that some individuals might consider themselves to be 'revolutionaries'. Doctors suggest such individuals relax and smoke lots of weed to get over the angst associated with such pressure.

Pedantically (and rightfully ignoring all the above), revolution actually means "to volute again" ... like we did last summer.
[edit] See also

* Politics of Dancing
* Industrial Revolution
* Nintendo Revolution
* Che Guevara - The most prolific revolutionary in the history of the world, making over 200 revolutions per second
* Vending Machine
* Prince and the Revolution
* Revolution 393
* Riot

[keehah]

What I found more interesting is the proposal from Pat Buchanan that British Columbia secede from Canada and join the US. We would then have a contiguous nation from the Mexican border through Alaska (where you can see Russia from the houses).


Her Majesty's Forces are getting ready. Closing the few remaining bases on the mainland and retreating to Northern Alberta and Vancouver Island. All that Mil-Gov infrastructure around Whatcom County can now be used on locals in some new NA 'peace' authority.


Former Canadian Forces Bases and Stations

CFS Aldergrove, British Columbia
CFB Chilliwack, British Columbia

[Bullfrog]

I just got my name on another government list. :banrasta
Sent an email to a professor in Italy about the history of revolutions.

[Bullfrog]

http://www.h-net.org/announce/show.cgi?ID=157494 (http://)


Some theoretical questions we want to answer are:

Why did the use of revolutionary tools not lead to the same result all over the post-communist space? Is it because those tools were used correctly in some cases and incorrectly in others or because ‘geography’ matters?

[Phoenix]

The Bay Area needs to be depopulated, and then repopulated with human beings.

[Phoenix]

where you can see Russia from the houses


Only if your house is on Little Diomede Island:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Diomede

[Phoenix]

Mexico annexed California years ago...lol.

:D




So they think.