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dysgenic
19th July 2010, 09:18 PM
The foundation for this potential tipping point was laid by the bad guys a very long time ago. As tyranny and oppression become more overt and tougher to ignore, as services and entitlements and salaries and standards of living collapse, as physical and financial security disappear, as taxes and government control mechanisms explode, as slave conciousness awakens, there are going to be men ready and willing to fight. Truth is, they are already out there. BUT what of the women and by extension, what of the children?
I'll probably take some heat for the following, but it's my opinion: women are more succeptible than men to things like propaganda/advertising, authoritarianism, and 'fitting in' . They are less freedom inclined and more security inclined. They are less genetically predisposed towards leadership or politics as opposed to child rearing and care giving. Consider the aforementioned factors combined with the feminism movement, destruction or threat of destruction of the traditional family predicated on the subjugation of men's rights, and the necessary anti-establishment predilection for those men that embrace the truth, and what have you got? You have too many men that will be forced to fight the good fight without the benefit of their families support.
Watch as this becomes a very big factor in the months to come.
dys
Phoenix
19th July 2010, 09:50 PM
Feminists are no more "significant" than the mold on your shower walls or in your toilet.
The problem is that the "men" of the Western world no longer have the balls to USE BLEACH.
Feminists are unsightly organisms growing on a social body that failed to keep itself clean, and whose immune system is dysfunctional.
Grand Master Melon
19th July 2010, 09:56 PM
Are there really any actual feminists left?
It's not like they've got much to fight for.
zap
19th July 2010, 10:01 PM
What feminist?
Women that work outside the home because they have to?
What are you considering a feminist? :oo-->
EE_
19th July 2010, 10:07 PM
Are there really any actual feminists left?
Not any that are happy.
EE_
19th July 2010, 10:11 PM
Are there really any actual feminists left?
Not any that are happy.
:ROFL:
And they're not laughing either.
Phoenix
19th July 2010, 10:45 PM
What feminist?
Women that work outside the home because they have to?
What are you considering a feminist? :oo-->
Feminist = someone who wishes to turn her fantasies into reality, by demolishing what God/Nature has decreed, most often, that women can be men.
Family women who work outside the home, for necessity, are called "devoted mothers."
StackerKen
19th July 2010, 10:58 PM
Men and Women aren't the same
By Melissa Lorenzen
Let me introduce myself, I'm female, 20-something, and independent. But I don't share the typical views of most feminists my age. I'm here to explain why.
Men and women aren't the same. Neither are better than the other, but they aren't the same. I don't know how many feminazis I've pissed off, who insist that I'm against women because I don't think they're are the same as men. They find it so insulting that I think men are better at some things than women. But they have no problem thinking that women are better at everything.
I'm so fucking tired of bitter women who insist on taking male-dominated jobs (MDJs), because they feel it's owed to them, whether or not they actually want those jobs. Affirmative action is a worn out excuse for women's lib, "Men are always firefighters, women should be firefighters too! You'd better hire a woman firefighter, or we'll sue for sexual discrimination!"
Get real feminazis, most women can't handle MDJs. Our bodies just aren't made for them. If my home caught on fire, I wouldn't want to see a bunch of women trying to lift 500lb fire hoses and large axes to chop into my home. Men are simply more capable. Men are better at lifting heavy objects, exerting brute force and defending. Of course there are exceptions to every rule. There are fully capable female firefighters who trained very hard, but why did they want to be a firefighter in the first place? Did they want to prove that they're just as good as men?
"A woman can do anything a man can!" Can a man do anything a woman can? Hell no. A man can't become pregnant, they can't menstruate or lactate. You don't see men whining about that, do you? Where's the government funding to impregnate men so they can enjoy the miracle of life?
I do believe that there are gender neutral jobs that both men and women can equally accomplish. I think men and women are equally capable as scientists, professors, mathematicians, doctors, etc... but these tend to deal more with brain power than physical capabilities.
The real problem is that most female-dominated jobs (FDJs) pay considerably less than MDJs. This is where affirmative action really screws things up. Women insist on getting MDJs, mainly because they pay more. Thanks to affirmative action, it's very easy for women to get a MDJ. So what happens to FDJs? They suffer even more because women don't want them. What has happened to our teachers, nurses, dental hygienists and secretaries? Their jobs have become even more undervalued, while MDJs are valued more as an increasing number of women want them.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think women should stay home, barefoot and pregnant, but they shouldn't abandon what it means to be female.
There's nothing wrong with women being feminine. It's amazing how many feminists are against what it means to be a female. They insist that women should take on male qualities and characteristics to achieve freedom and equality. They should be more aggressive, take on MDJs, join the military, play aggressive sports, and completely abandon all female virtues. Except for fighting for the right to raise children on their own, and breast feed in public. Those seem to be the only female traits they're fighting for.
In other words, they're admitting that the way men are, is the right way to be. Do they not realize this is just another way of succumbing to men? If you can't beat 'em, join 'em! Rather than empowering themselves with what it means to be a female, they take on whatever male traits they can. This will never create equality, only power struggles and 'battles of the sexes'.
My solution? Stop preaching that we're all the same. Accept that men and women are better at different things, and compensate for them. Raise the wages of teachers and nurses. Give daycare providers federal funding to keep their daycares running and up to standards. Start paying FDJs more money, so they become just as valued by society and just as desirable to women. That is how we'll achieve equality.
EE_
19th July 2010, 11:16 PM
Get real feminazis, most women can't handle MDJs. Our bodies just aren't made for them. If my home caught on fire, I wouldn't want to see a bunch of women trying to lift 500lb fire hoses and large axes to chop into my home.
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Mouse
20th July 2010, 12:43 AM
Equality and peace will never be achieved by a bunch of monkeys. Some kind of a "draw" will be achieved when the world repudiates all debt. One must be patient. And it would be wise to make sure the senior monkey on the debt deal is not 666.
Shorty Harris
20th July 2010, 07:10 AM
I post this , not to be a sexist..but rather to show how much things have changed, and the mentality of a different era in a relatively short period of time...
Good Wives Guide - 1950
Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have be thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they get home and the prospect of a good meal is part of the warm welcome needed.
Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you'll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh-looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.
Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it.
Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives. Run a dustcloth over the tables.
During the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering to his comfort will provide you with immense personal satisfaction.
Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Encourage the children to be quiet.
Be happy to see him.
Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him.
Listen to him. You may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.
Don't greet him with complaints and problems.
Don't complain if he's late for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through at work.
Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or lie him down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.
Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice.
Don't ask him questions about his actions or question his judgment or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.
A good wife always knows her place.
Boy!..How times have changed!
I am me, I am free
20th July 2010, 08:23 AM
Are there really any actual feminists left?
It's not like they've got much to fight for.
Yes, there are. I used to date a relatively hardcore feminist. Interestingly enough she spontaneously unconditionally surrendered to me one night, like one would expect from a *normal* woman. Just blurted it out. It was totally unexpected and I was quite surprised to hear it (but not really under the circumstances lol).
iOWNme
20th July 2010, 09:01 AM
Edward Bernay's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays#PR_techniques) would be a proud man.......
Some of the campaigns Bernays worked on:
* 1915 Diaghilev's Ballet Russes American tour Convinced magazines to write articles that told people that Ballet is fun to watch
* 1920 Successfully hosted the first NAACP convention in Atlanta Georgia. His campaign was considered successful because there was no violence at the convention. He campaign focused on the important contributions of African-Americans to Whites living in the South. He later received an award from the NAACP for his contribution.
* In the 1920s, working for the American Tobacco Company, he sent a group of young models to march in the New York City parade. He then told the press that a group of women's rights marchers would light "Torches of Freedom". On his signal, the models lit Lucky Strike cigarettes in front of the eager photographers. The New York Times (1 April 1929) printed: "Group of Girls Puff at Cigarettes as a Gesture of 'Freedom'". This helped to break the taboo against women smoking in public. During this decade he also handled publicity for the NAACP.
* Bernays once engineered a "pancake breakfast" with vaudevillians for Calvin Coolidge in what is widely considered one of the first overt media acts for a president.
* Bernays used his uncle Sigmund Freud's ideas to help convince the public, among other things, that bacon and eggs was the true all-American breakfast.[9]
* In October 1929, Bernays was involved in promoting "Light's Golden Jubilee." The event, which spanned across several major cities in the U.S., was designed to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Thomas Edison's invention of the light-bulb (note: the light-bulb was in fact invented by Joseph Swan). The publicity elements of the Jubilee – including the special issuance of a U.S. postage stamp and Edison's "re-creating" the invention of the light bulb for a nationwide radio audience – provided evidence of Bernays' love for big ideas and "ballyhoo".
* Bernays attempted to help Venida hair nets company to get women to wear their hair longer so they would use hair nets more. The campaign failed but did get government officials to require hair nets for some jobs.
* Bernays worked with Procter & Gamble for Ivory soap. The campaign successfully convinced people that Ivory soap was medically superior to other soaps. He also promoted soap through sculpting contests and floating contests because the soap floated better than its competitors.
* Bernays helped the Aluminum Company of America (Alcoa) and other special interest groups to convince the American public that water fluoridation was safe and beneficial to human health. This was achieved by using the American Dental Association in a highly successful media campaign.
* In the 1930s, his Dixie Cup campaign was designed to convince consumers that only disposable cups were sanitary.
* In the 1930s, he attempted to convince women that Lucky Strike cigarettes' forest green pack was the most fashionable color. Letters were written to interior and fashion designers, department stores, and prominent women of society pushing green as the new hot color for the season. Balls, gallery exhibitions, and window displays all featured green after Bernays got through with them. The result was that green did indeed become a very hot color for the 1934 season and Lucky Strike kept their pack color and female clientele intact.
* After his semi-retirement in the 1960s he worked with anti-smoker lawyer John Banzhaf's group, ASH and supported other anti-smoking campaigns.
Woman had little to no feeling of being inferior to man, until SOMEONE ELSE told them so.......It is truly sad.
Woman have the hardest role in the family, IMO. They are the crutch that keeps the house standing. The man provides for that home and protects it, but the home is incomplete without the female life support system. You cant break America up into a million pieces without starting with the American home. Sadistic i tell you....
Liquid
20th July 2010, 10:57 AM
All the self-proclaimed feminists I've ever met had three things in common. 1) they were unhappy people. 2) they felt they were victims. 3) they had deep seated hatred towards men.
The feminist movement started with good intentions, but changed from equal rights...into trying to take anything and everything they could get.
Thing is, noone is guaranteed anything in life, you have to go get it. If you get knocked down, you brush yourself off, get back up and have another go. Life has a way of trying to keep folks down. Feminism is now just a crutch to fall back on, because women can achieve anything they want in life, just as men..however if they get knocked down, crying victimhood takes the burden off of the feminists shoulders, and places blame elsewhere. This is why feminists are unhappy, they don't truely 'own' their lives, they have that crutch. Walking through life with a crutch is no life.
Fortunately, most folks get that women and men are equal, but different. We've all got our own personal strength and weaknesses. It's about making our strengths stronger, and identifying our weakness and overcoming them.
TheNocturnalEgyptian
20th July 2010, 01:14 PM
I agree with StackerKen. Preaching that men and women are identical is ridiculous. The same opportunities should be open to both. You shouldn't try to force someone into anything based on gender, neither should you deny them based on gender. Embrace the differences between men and women and let freedom take care of the rest. No special rulesets are necessary.
Saul Mine
20th July 2010, 06:03 PM
All the self-proclaimed feminists I've ever met had three things in common. 1) they were unhappy people. 2) they felt they were victims. 3) they had deep seated hatred towards men.
The feminist movement started with good intentions, but changed from equal rights...into trying to take anything and everything they could get.
You had it right the first time. Good intentions were never a part of the issue.
In case you hadn't heard, the issue is religious. The devil is not a cute little fellow who encourages fun; he is pure hate, dedicated to abolish everything that God calls a blessing. God says it is not good for the man to be alone, the devil wants the man to be alone. God says children are a blessing, the devil wants to sever the family ties. He sows disrespect for male leadership, he motivates legislatures to build public roads so families will have to move away from relatives to find work, he encourages heavy taxation so a father can't support his family, he promotes central schools so parents can be severed from influencing the education of their children.
You can't blame this stuff on human nature because it has been going on for all of recorded history. Human nature is not that reliable.
Liquid
20th July 2010, 06:48 PM
God says it is not good for the man to be alone, the devil wants the man to be alone. God says children are a blessing, the devil wants to sever the family ties.
I hadn't thought about it from a religious standpoint. As a single man, I would marry if I met the right woman. I think God has a plan for us all, and most of the women I meet are not marriage worthy types. I don't think it's a sin for man to be single, given the choices out there, honestly. If God want's me to marry, I will meet the right woman. Not being very religious, that's one thing I do believe. A man can still remain single and live a good honorable life.
Book
20th July 2010, 06:54 PM
God says it is not good for the man to be alone, the devil wants the man to be alone. God says children are a blessing, the devil wants to sever the family ties.
I hadn't thought about it from a religious standpoint. As a single man, I would marry if I met the right woman. I think God has a plan for us all, and most of the women I meet are not marriage worthy types. I don't think it's a sin for man to be single, given the choices out there, honestly. If God want's me to marry, I will meet the right woman. Not being very religious, that's one thing I do believe. A man can still remain single and live a good honorable life.
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the riot act
20th July 2010, 06:57 PM
Been married to one of each of the ^^^^^^^^^ above.
:ROFL:
goldmonkey
20th July 2010, 06:57 PM
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1970 silver art
20th July 2010, 07:08 PM
God says it is not good for the man to be alone, the devil wants the man to be alone. God says children are a blessing, the devil wants to sever the family ties.
I hadn't thought about it from a religious standpoint. As a single man, I would marry if I met the right woman. I think God has a plan for us all, and most of the women I meet are not marriage worthy types. I don't think it's a sin for man to be single, given the choices out there, honestly. If God want's me to marry, I will meet the right woman. Not being very religious, that's one thing I do believe. A man can still remain single and live a good honorable life.
http://janeheller.mlblogs.com/nagging%20wife-saidaonline.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LamgD4cQZks/S67d7oGqkMI/AAAAAAAAADY/Skg7kCTPJGA/s1600/893583_f520.jpg
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Those pictures represent very good reasons for a single man to stay single. I will NEVER got married. I plan to stay single for the rest of my life. Being single just means that a man can live his life the way that he sees fit without having to get permission from a woman. Just my very honest opinion.
Liquid
20th July 2010, 07:15 PM
Those pictures represent very good reasons for a single man to stay single. I will NEVER got married. I plan to stay single for the rest of my life. Being single just means that a man can live his life the way that he sees fit without having to get permission from a woman. Just my very honest opinion.
See, arties post is a perfect example of what feminism has created. Men, that would much rather stay single and live their lives the best way they can, without having to dragged down in life, used and discarded, by some woman. Feminism created women that only see men as tools to be used and replaced.
I don't blame ya Josey, but I don't like the word never. ;D There are some good women out there, but not so easy to find.
1970 silver art
20th July 2010, 07:16 PM
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Government marriage (and divorce) + woman = financial misery for the man.
JMHO.
1970 silver art
20th July 2010, 07:28 PM
Those pictures represent very good reasons for a single man to stay single. I will NEVER got married. I plan to stay single for the rest of my life. Being single just means that a man can live his life the way that he sees fit without having to get permission from a woman. Just my very honest opinion.
See, arties post is a perfect example of what feminism has created. Men, that would much rather stay single and live their lives the best way they can, without having to dragged down in life, used and discarded, by some woman. Feminism created women that only see men as tools to be used and replaced.
I don't blame ya Josey, but I don't like the word never. ;D There are some good women out there, but not so easy to find.
Ok. Fair enough. There are indeed good women out but there are not many of them and they are not easy to find IMO.
BTW I like the word "NEVER" when it is used in certain cases. For example, the word "NEVER" works just fine when it applies to me and marriage as in..........I will NEVER marry a women. Getting married will NEVER happen to me. That is by choice BTW. I choose to stay single in order to maintain my happiness "high". ;D
The one good thing that the feminism movement did for me was to wake me up to the reality that marriage is a bad thing for a man financially and emotionally.
goldmonkey
20th July 2010, 07:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubsd-tWYmZw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB0Ne8AcE9E
Liquid
20th July 2010, 07:34 PM
BTW I like the word "NEVER" when it is used in certain cases. For example, the word "NEVER" works just fine when it applies to me and marriage as in..........I will NEVER marry a women. Getting married will NEVER happen to me. That is by choice BTW. I choose to stay single in order to maintain my happiness "high". ;D
I'll probably stay single as well. I don't mind, as I enjoy life. I don't believe the myth that a man's needs to get married in order to fulfill his 'purpose' in life. God gives us all purpose, for each one of us it's different.
And..actually I take back what I said about the word 'never'. The word never and marriage go hand in hand, such as never disrepect your spouse, never cheat, etc. Never can be a good word sometimes.
ximmy
20th July 2010, 07:42 PM
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1970 silver art
20th July 2010, 07:45 PM
BTW I like the word "NEVER" when it is used in certain cases. For example, the word "NEVER" works just fine when it applies to me and marriage as in..........I will NEVER marry a women. Getting married will NEVER happen to me. That is by choice BTW. I choose to stay single in order to maintain my happiness "high". ;D
I'll probably stay single as well. I don't mind, as I enjoy life. I don't believe the myth that a man's needs to get married in order to fulfill his 'purpose' in life. God gives us all purpose, for each one of us it's different.
And..actually I take back what I said about the word 'never'. The word never and marriage go hand in hand, such as never disrepect your spouse, never cheat, etc. Never can be a good word sometimes.
Yeah someone should have told Tiger "The Cheat-Ah" Woods about never cheating on a spouse. Or at the very least, someone should have told him not to get married and not to father children.
If "The Cheat-ah" would have just lurked on GSUS and read my post on this thread, then he would not be in the situation that he is in now with his wallet about to be $750 million lighter. :D :D :D
My advice to single men: DO NOT get married. Just say "no" to marriage.
goldmonkey
20th July 2010, 07:59 PM
National Organization of Men Against Amazonian Masterhood
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no-maam is an excellent blog.
"Feminism, Socialism, and Communism are one in the same, and Socialist/Communist government is the goal of feminism." - Catharine A. MacKinnon, Toward a Feminist Theory of the State (First Harvard University Press, 1989), p.10
Marriage = Fraud (http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2008/02/questionators-should-women-have-right.html)
Tying the Knot in the Age of Marriage 2.0 (https://weddedabyss.wordpress.com/)
So You Want to Get Married?
You are here because you are thinking about getting married. Perhaps one of your friends did you a favor, and sent you here. If you are going to be the higher-earner spouse in the marriage, then this article is for you.
Taking the Plunge
Before you take the plunge there are a few things about marriage that you need to be aware of. The institution of marriage as we know it is no more. It has undergone drastic changes in the last 50 years. What used to be a life long commitment, unbreakable barring the most severe circumstances, has been relegislated into something new entirely thanks to the lobbying efforts of radical feminists and the divorce industry. In trying to to make divorce “fail-safe” for homemaker / lower-earner spouses, the bad ones included, they have made marriage “unsafe” for virtually everyone else.
Marriage today is a temporary union of two individuals where the exit costs are highly asymmetrical. What does that mean? It means that upon the dissolution of the marriage, one spouse generally makes off like a bandit, while the other is pushed into a life of unending poverty, abridged civil rights, and being two paychecks away from arrears, contempt, and prison.
If someone is made to suffer like that upon the divorce, you probably think that he/she deserved it. Perhaps they were a terrible spouse? Perhaps they cheated? If only this was so. Karma, you see, has nothing to do with it. That was the case during the olden days of “fault-only” divorce when the spouse who was at fault for wrecking the marriage got penalized during the divorce. With those old divorces , if the at-fault party was the higher-earning spouse, they were made to pay alimony and surrender many marital assets over to the wronged party. Similarly, if the at-fault party was the homemaker/lower-earner spouse, then they were made to forfeit any alimony and forced to accept a smaller share of the martial assets. Morality was a big factor in who made out better and who made out worse.
Enter Marriage 2.0
During the second half of the 20th century all of the ground rules governing marriage were changed. The laws were changed to such an extent that that we can no longer call it “marriage” as it was known through the millennia. We have to distinguish this mutated institution with a new name. We will call it Marriage 2.0.
Today all that stuff about the moral carrot and stick is out of the window. Basically the higher-earner spouse is always at-fault (i.e. made to hand over assets and pay alimony), and the lower-earner spouse is always the “innocent one” (i.e. gets most of the assets and a cut of the ex’s future salaries). It doesn’t matter if the lower-earner spouse was the one having an affair or is the one filing the divorce. Therein lies the problem with modern family laws. You can be the best breadwinner spouse in the world, take good care of your family, and stay true to your marriage vows, and you will still get shafted in the divorce. It’s a suckers bet for the good guy (or the good gal).
Here are some things working against you, when you are the primary breadwinner spouse within Marriage 2.0, and your spouse decides to walk out (cash out?) on you:
1. Women Filing Majority of Divorces - 66-75% of all divorces are now filed by wives. Publications like Cosmo love to harp on men for having a “fear of commitment”. Guys must ask themselves, why commit when it’s the other party who can’t live up to the commitment 3/4 of the time?
2. Unilateral Divorce – This is also known as no-fault divorce, with no recourse for the other spouse. There is nothing you can do legally speaking to stop a divorce.
3. Domestic Violence Fraud : Presumed guilty until proven innocent DV laws are now widely used as the “opening chess move” of many divorces. Once the husband is removed from the primary residence he never comes back, and she gets the primary residence in the asset split. Also known as the Federal VAWA Legislation, this new unconstitutional law has been fraudalently misused by divorcing spouses ever since it came out. There are no equivalent laws to protect men in abusive situations.
4. Decriminalization of Adultery - Adultery is no longer a crime. However the failure to pay alimony to an adulterous spouse is. Go figure.
5. No Custody for Dad - Custody of the children is most often awarded to the lower-earner spouse in family courts. Basically this amounts to: Goodbye Daddy, hello ATM. When you read of cases like this October 2009 case where a little boy’s mother was arrested for prostitution and his stable/employed dad was still denied custody, you quickly understand how this loaded dice always rolls.
6. Nonenforcement of Visitation Rights – States enforce payment obligations by non-custodial parents with an iron fist, however they don’t lift a finger to enforce the other side of the bargain, which is the visitation rights of non-custodial parents. If you are going to police one parent’s obligation to pay, why not police the other parent’s obligation to allow regular meaningful access to one’s children?
7. Children as Cashcows - The National Organization for Women (NOW) has been lobbying against Shared Parenting bills in many states. Why would NOW do that? What is more equal than shared parenting? The reason is that NOW’s brand of feminism is no longer about equality, but about a zero-sum game for resources. Children are cash-cows, and NOW will be damned if they allow Shared Parenting to stop the cash-flow.
8. No-Fault Alimony – In many states, fault is no longer a factor in awarding alimony. So there are plenty of cases of “spouse-A cheats, but spouse-B pays”. In what other area of contract law does the party breaking the contract gets paid, and the innocent party gets punished? Only in Marriage 2.0!
9. One Sided Alimony: Ok so the ex-wife got used to a certain standard of living, so we will make the ex-husband pay alimony. Fine. But how about the things the ex-husband got used to? Do men have a right to be “accustomed” to stuff too? If not, why not? Shouldn’t there be some sort of reciprocal reverse-alimony payment by the ex-wife in the form of weekly cleaning, a hot meal 7 nights a week, and “romantic companionship” services for the ex-husband? How come one spouse is obligated to provide something that the other was used to during the marriage, and the other isn’t obligated to provide anything? (see the Chris Rock clip below)
10. Lifetime Alimony – Contrary to common belief, Alimony isn’t on its way out. There was a period in the 1970′s when no-fault laws were first enacted when a few states put limitations on how/when it could be awarded. However since then there have been a concerted effort by powers that be such as the influential American Law Institute (ALI) for bringing alimony back in a big way. Here is a New York Times article covering the release of a landmark 2002 ALI report which recommended broadening and deepening alimony awards across all 50 states. Right on queue there are now reports of alimony horror stories coming out from many states where the breadwinner ex-spouses are ordered to pay lifetime alimony even after medium term marriages as short as 8 years.
11. Zombie Divorces: This Wall Street Journal article has a good example of a zombie divorce. These are divorces that come back from the grave, like flesh eating zombies, sometimes decades after the original divorce judgement. Paul Taylor featured in the WSJ story had his ex-wife take him back to court in 2009, 27 years after the original 1982 divorce when both parties had agreed to waive all past/present/future alimony. The court reversed that 1982 divorce judgement and awarded lifetime alimony to the ex-wife. They had been divorced for longer than they had been married when this 2009 judgement reversal was rendered. It was ordered that this new alimony be deducted out of Paul Taylor’s pension and paid monthly to a woman he hadn’t even seen in three decades. Mr Taylor is now in bankruptcy and can look forward to spending his golden years working as a Greeter in Wal-Mart. Is there a zombie attack in your future?
12. Paternity Fraud - If you didn’t catch right away that your kids aren’t really your kids but instead were “sired” by some guy that your wife was having an affair with, you are out of luck in most states. What’s worse if your cheating wife divorces you, you can bring the DNA tests to court, and you will still be forced to pay 18-23 years of child support for these kids who are some other guy’s spawn. Read this case of the Toronto man forced to pay child-support for twins that even the court acknowledged are not his. In no other area of the law do we punish the victim for the conduct of two other people
Even more shocking is this New York Times article about a Pennsylvania man ordered to keep paying child support after his adulterous wife divorced him, and married the very guy she had the affair and conceived the child with. Today the bio-father, the ex-wife, and their bio-child live together under a single roof as a biologically intact family and guess who is still paying them monthly child support? Yes, the cuckold ex-husband still has to pay every month or go to jail. You can’t make this stuff up. Even cuckold porn doesn’t get this vile.
Conclusion
Marriage 2.0 is a very unequal contract where the legal power balance both within the marriage and after the divorce is heavily biased against the primary breadwinner. Given that this is today’s legal reality why would you want to sign such a one sided contract? There are simply no benefits in marriage for a man under these Marriage 2.0 rules. None whatsoever. Ask yourself now: “What is in it for me?”. If the above hasn’t yet convinced you to avoid this mutated institution that has become a a giant legal trap, then you owe it to yourself to keep learning more about the risks of saying “I do”.
iOWNme
21st July 2010, 07:42 AM
Who does everyone think that Marriage = License?
WTF?
Ever heard of the Public Record? Common Law? Or how about just a nice ceremony between you, your woman and the Creator?
"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society" - J. Krishnamurti
Horn
22nd July 2010, 09:22 AM
Excellent post goldmonkey, but your avatar's story is scaring me a little... :-X
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