JT Ready to be on Alan Colmes tonight at 7:30 Pacific Time

[General of Darkness]

JT has been at the border capturing drug smuggles and shooting back. We interviewed him on VoR at 7-11-10. I like the guy, well spoken and sincere.

http://radio.foxnews.com/fox-news-talk/alan-colmes/#axzz0uGvTjvLQ

[Grand Master Melon]

Ready is a moron.

[General of Darkness]

Ready is a moron.


How so?

[Grand Master Melon]

Ready is a moron.


How so?


His lack of tact has made him look like a moron more than a few times.

[General of Darkness]

Ready is a moron.


How so?


His lack of tact has made him look like a moron more than a few times.


Can ya be specific?

[General of Darkness]

Ready is a moron.


How so?


His lack of tact has made him look like a moron more than a few times.


Well Grand Master Melon pounder. What do you say.

[General of Darkness]

Hey butter cup here's the audio. What say you smite boy?

http://reasonradionetwork.com/_archive/misc/Alan_Colmes_interviews_JT_Ready-20100720-32kbps.mp3

[learn2swim]

Great, the media just loves this shit. Sorry, but you gotta be a real dumb ass SOB to have a self admitted Nazi as your militia leader, then have him go on the MSM. Ready is probably a FED..

[General of Darkness]

Great, the media just loves this sh*t. Sorry, but you gotta be a real dumb ass SOB to have a self admitted Nazi as your militia leader, then have him go on the MSM. Ready is probably a FED..


Hell I'm a white nationalist and if I didn't have to work I'd be there also, does that make me a fed? On another note if I have a conversations with him, and ask, "Are you a fed" do they have to answer the question. Is there a law on the books that forces them to state that they are?

[learn2swim]

Not if he's a FBI informant.... All Neo-Nazi leaders are FEDS, always have been---always will be.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w119.html

You think this guy is helping matters? Hell no, it totally discredits anybody who's against open boarders. I'll be called a Neo-Nazi supporter now. It's the same old sh*t, they backed Ron Paul too, and of course the media was all over that too. I'm sick of this crap.

[Grand Master Melon]

Ready is a moron.


How so?


His lack of tact has made him look like a moron more than a few times.


Can ya be specific?


I could probably dig up some examples but I'm not going to. I live in the same area as the guy. I'm more than familiar with him. If you think he's bright and tactful that's fine, it's my opinion the man is an idiot though.

[Grand Master Melon]

Not if he's a FBI informant.... All Neo-Nazi leaders are FEDS, always have been---always will be.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w119.html

You think this guy is helping matters? Hell no, it totally discredits anybody who's against open boarders. I'll be called a Neo-Nazi supporter now. It's the same old sh*t, they backed Ron Paul too, and of course the media was all over that too. I'm sick of this crap.


Indeed. The law and common sense are already on this guy's side. Him touting his politics is illogical as far as I'm concerned.

[General of Darkness]

Well, if he is a fed, let's prove it. I don't want to support the guy if it's a lie. What are the laws regarding a FED being forced to reveal who they are? Sure it's easy to post b.s. on the internet and say xyz. Posts like, I live by him, I'm banging his mom. Well how do you prove it one way or the other. Grand Melon, this will probably help in your smite count. How can I ask, ARE YOU A FED, and JT has to answer with the TRUTH?

[Grand Master Melon]

Well, if he is a fed, let's prove it. I don't want to support the guy if it's a lie. What are the laws regarding a FED being forced to reveal who they are? Sure it's easy to post b.s. on the internet and say xyz. Posts like, I live by him, I'm banging his mom. Well how do you prove it one way or the other. Grand Melon, this will probably help in your smite count. How can I ask, ARE YOU A FED, and JT has to answer with the TRUTH?


Ok, you're right I don't live in the same metropolitan region as him and I know nothing about him. My opinion was formed solely with the intent to argue with you but my plan has failed and you've completely outwitted me. :oo-->

Come on, use your brain. Do you really think it makes sense for him to go touting his personal politics when common sense, the public at large and the law all support his stance on illegal immigration?

Fed or not? I don't care, he's a moron, controlled opposition or something.

[learn2swim]

The National Socialist Movement's current strategy is to provoke tumult and violence, rather than participating in it directly. In recent weeks the group has achieved a relatively high profile by staging anti-immigration rallies in Riverside, California and Phoenix, Arizona.

In California, a small knot of NSM denizens faced off with members of "Los Brown Berets de Aztlan," a foundation-funded militant Chicano group, with riot police clad in body armor on hand to maintain "order." A few weeks later the group inflicted itself on an immigration-reform protest in Arizona during which the group's most visible spokesperson, J.T. Ready, unfurled a portrait of Adolf Hitler.


Ready – a dishonorably discharged ex-Marine – is a pretty good candidate to be the next NSM figure outed as an asset of the Feds. An ambulatory wad of cholesterol and bile, Ready looks like the unfortunate result of a genetic experiment combining the most unpleasant traits of Ernst Roehm and Chris Farley.

While certainly not telegenic, Ready has achieved a certain media prominence as a result of his candor in reciting the Nazi party line.

The sudden prominence of the NSM has been noted – with a detectable hint of gratitude – by left-collectivists eager to shoehorn resistance to the Obama Regime into a pre-determined narrative: Critics of the Blessed One and his administration are animated by concealed bigotry, according to this reading, whether they know it or not, and their rhetoric is creating an "atmosphere" of incipient violence that will engender domestic terrorism.

It should be remembered that the same tropes were put into play early in the last Democratic administration, just before the 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing – a terrorist act for which disenchanted former federal employee Timothy McVeigh was executed, but was actually carried out with the help of "others unknown," including several federal assets connected to a bizarre little white supremacist commune known as Elohim City.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w119.html

[Grand Master Melon]

The above is a perfect example of Ready the idiot having no tact.

Thanks for posting that.

[General of Darkness]

I'M TOTALLY SERIOUS. Can you ask a FED or who ever, ARE YOU FED and they have to answer truthfully?

[Grand Master Melon]

I'M TOTALLY SERIOUS. Can you ask a FED or who ever, ARE YOU FED and they have to answer truthfully?



I'm smiting you for the butter cup comment now.

I'm totally serious.

[learn2swim]

Well, if he is a fed, let's prove it. I don't want to support the guy if it's a lie. What are the laws regarding a FED being forced to reveal who they are? Sure it's easy to post b.s. on the internet and say xyz. Posts like, I live by him, I'm banging his mom. Well how do you prove it one way or the other. Grand Melon, this will probably help in your smite count. How can I ask, ARE YOU A FED, and JT has to answer with the TRUTH?


He's being interviewed by the MSM, just like Hal Turner. There's accusations on the internet about him, where's there's smoke, there's fire. I doubt he's communicating with his FBI handler by email-- LOL....

[learn2swim]

I'M TOTALLY SERIOUS. Can you ask a FED or who ever, ARE YOU FED and they have to answer truthfully?



Here's your answer, from Hal Turner..

" Hackers discovered a cache of e-mail correspondence between Turner and William Haug, an agent working for a Joint Terrorism Task Force who acted as the informant's handler. Turner closed down his radio program while emitting great gusts of affected outrage over what he insisted were spurious accusations that he had collaborated with the Feds.


In a message posted to Pro Libertate after he was identified as an agent provocateur – along with federal assets tasked to carry out similar missions within Muslim sub-populations in the U.S. – Turner insisted that only "PARANOID FREAKS (like this blog)" would suspect him of collaboration.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w119.html

[General of Darkness]

WTF, Hal Turner bla bla bla. I have to hack a guys email?

You guys are like that jew Colmes. Answer the fricken question versus spewing your b.s.

[Grand Master Melon]

WTF, Hal Turner bla bla bla. I have to hack a guys email?

You guys are like that jew Colmes. Answer the fricken question versus spewing your b.s.


Yeah, bla bla bla, that will teach us.

You crack me up.

Get back to me when you can open your eyes and see that people like Ready are morons doing a disservice.

Now go ahead and lock your thread.

[Heimdhal]

I dont have the exact supreme court ruling in front of me, but the short answer is: no, LEO's, Fed or local, do NOT have to tell you they are cops even if you ask then directly. They may lie to your face straight up, or say anything they please. They are in no way forced or obligated to tell you the truth under any circumstance, with the exception of reading you your miranda rights.

There was a big supreme court ruling about this some years ago (04 or 06 IIRC) where the court ruled in favor of undercover LEO's, so it shouldnt be hard to find with a google search.


The basic thing to keep in mind is that if you suspect some one may be a fed, just shut up and dont deal with that person. Always remember, they can lie to you, but you CANT lie to them and ANYTHING you say to them EVER, whether youre under invesitagation at the time or not, can and WILL be used against you. And at the end of the day, if they want your ass in jail or out of the way bad enough, theyll make shit up if they dont have real stuff to pin on you.

[General of Darkness]

WTF, Hal Turner bla bla bla. I have to hack a guys email?

You guys are like that jew Colmes. Answer the fricken question versus spewing your b.s.


Yeah, bla bla bla, that will teach us.

You crack me up.

Get back to me when you can open your eyes and see that people like Ready are morons doing a disservice.

Now go ahead and lock your thread.


Just looking for the truth cocksucker. You ever heard of that, the truth?

[philo beddoe]

WTF, Hal Turner bla bla bla. I have to hack a guys email?

You guys are like that jew Colmes. Answer the fricken question versus spewing your b.s.


Yeah, bla bla bla, that will teach us.

You crack me up.

Get back to me when you can open your eyes and see that people like Ready are morons doing a disservice.

Now go ahead and lock your thread.
Grow up melon with your baiting

[Grand Master Melon]

WTF, Hal Turner bla bla bla. I have to hack a guys email?

You guys are like that jew Colmes. Answer the fricken question versus spewing your b.s.


Yeah, bla bla bla, that will teach us.

You crack me up.

Get back to me when you can open your eyes and see that people like Ready are morons doing a disservice.

Now go ahead and lock your thread.


Just looking for the truth cocksucker. You ever heard of that, the truth?


Ooh, you busted out the "C" word.

That statement automatically gives credence to Ready not being an idiot.

How old are you?

[Grand Master Melon]

WTF, Hal Turner bla bla bla. I have to hack a guys email?

You guys are like that jew Colmes. Answer the fricken question versus spewing your b.s.


Yeah, bla bla bla, that will teach us.

You crack me up.

Get back to me when you can open your eyes and see that people like Ready are morons doing a disservice.

Now go ahead and lock your thread.
Grow up melon with your baiting


Baiting?

That was simply a reply to an obviously well thought out comment from General of Darkness.

Grow up? Good stuff, keep it coming.

[learn2swim]

WTF, Hal Turner bla bla bla. I have to hack a guys email?

You guys are like that jew Colmes. Answer the fricken question versus spewing your b.s.



LOL, you're so full of BS. Even the turds on stormfront thinks he is a FED. You're either a sucker or a fraud...

[philo beddoe]

WTF, Hal Turner bla bla bla. I have to hack a guys email?

You guys are like that jew Colmes. Answer the fricken question versus spewing your b.s.



LOL, you're so full of BS. Even the turds on stormfront thinks he is a FED. You're either a sucker or a fraud...
Stormdrain is loaded with joos and operatives.....are you one?

[General of Darkness]

ok, I've got to get to work in the morning. PROVE that he's a fed. No conjecture, no Hal Turner crap etc.

[learn2swim]

WTF, Hal Turner bla bla bla. I have to hack a guys email?

You guys are like that jew Colmes. Answer the fricken question versus spewing your b.s.



LOL, you're so full of BS. Even the turds on stormfront thinks he is a FED. You're either a sucker or a fraud...
Stormdrain is loaded with joos and operatives.....are you one?


Sorry, I'm not a member, but you're free to read the threads. Yes, I know the FEDS and the ADL/SPLC monitor the site, maybe even control it.

[learn2swim]

ok, I've got to get to work in the morning. PROVE that he's a fed. No conjecture, no Hal Turner crap etc.


That's stupid, how can I prove it? I suspect he's a FED. How does that fat phuck feed himself? He has no job since he's patrolling boarder, right?

[Grand Master Melon]

ok, I've got to get to work in the morning. PROVE that he's a fed. No conjecture, no Hal Turner crap etc.


Ok, prove to me he's not a moron.

[learn2swim]

Boy, JT is getting much media attention, he's on Drudge report and CBS News! The good old "turd in the punch bowl" and "guilt by association" is in full swing.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6704475n

This reminds me of Hal Turner, the media liked to cover him too..
Hal on CNN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XED_rzWNTKo
Hal on Geraldo Rivera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkr-Mmm5v7w
Hal on Dateline NBC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEaFU7wcN6g&feature=related

I'm sure the Neo-Nazis are in full support of the Constitution too. LOL

[learn2swim]

Brown Herring: J.T. Ready And His “Neo-Nazi” Border Patrol

By James Ryan

The Main Stream Media has found a new star: J.T. Ready. J.T. Ready and a handful of his buddies have launched a border patrol operation, one which should be unremarkable amongst the numerous other border patrol operations, most of which are larger, more sophisticated, and more established.

What makes J.T. Ready different: he has also proclaimed himself a National Socialist and been photographed alongside a handful of costumed characters at a Nazi rally.

This makes him a perfect excuse for our political elite to continue its smear campaign of Arizona as a "Nazi state."

The Southern Poverty Law Center, along with its media allies, is hyping this small operation by a handful of obscure individuals to smear all critics of open-borders immigration policy as Nazis.

This is in line the standard modus operandi of the SPLC:

Step one: find an obscure individual or group which is openly racist, makes intentionally incendiary statements, and preferably dresses like a weirdo.

Step two: treat a fringe movement as a key force on the American Right.

Step three: make tenuous, hypothetical, or even entirely fictional connections between the obscure characters and mainstream figures and groups in the immigration control and conservative movements.

Step four: profit by fundraising on the dire warning that a Nazi takeover of America is imminent.

The Arizona = Nazism meme has quickly taken root throughout the entire Main Stream Media.

For example, Radio Bilingüe frantically covers J.T. Ready’s border patrol group and shrieks "the Arizona law that makes it a crime to be in the state without documents, as well as the rhetoric that promotes the idea that immigrants are coming to the United States to commit crimes, has emboldened the [Nazi] groups."[Arizona Law Encourages Hate Groups, July 4, 2010]

Rodolfo F. Acuña in the San Fernando Valley Sun [Email him] also casually links Arizona’s law to the Third Reich:

"The fact that [Arizona Governor Jan] Brewer equates an undocumented immigrant to organized criminals and members of the violent drug cartels is disturbing. With this type of misinformation by a public official, it is no wonder that over 70 percent of Americans support the repression of undocumented immigrants believing that laws similar to those of Arizona will keep them safe.

“History informs us that the Third Reich came to power as a consequence of half-truths and blatant lies that gradually made most Germans passively receptive to Nazi racial theories. The parallels between Germany in the 1920s and Arizona in 2010 are striking. Then and now intentional lies have spread fear and hatred."

It’s obvious, isn’t it? Hitler’s master plan, after all, was to restrict illegal immigration.

Acuña goes on to describe the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) as a "white supremacist group". Where would he get such an idea? Why, from the SPLC, which lists FAIR on its "hate map" alongside a wide variety of groups ranging from Ku Klux Klan groups to the "anti-gay" Traditional Values Coalition (and even VDARE.COM!)

Acuña continues:

"Enter the almost all white Tea Party movement. They have given a shot of adrenaline to the right and ironically respectability to the nativist movement through the creation of mass hysteria. A mob without a center, they are easily manipulated by the zealots who have been stoking these fires for four decades. Minutemen, vigilantes, Tea Partiers all stem from the same root."

Acuña then makes more Hitler comparisons, and declares that "Undocumented workers are not drug dealers, criminals or a drag on society. La Raza Studies are not about hate." [The Big Lie - The Rise of the Extreme Right, July 7, 2010. Links added]

One wonders why Acuña considers a blandly nonracial immigration reform group such as FAIR to be a "white supremacist group", but considers an openly racial group such as La Raza (the race) to be "not about hate."

Explicit race consciousness is acceptable and praiseworthy for non-whites. But even implicit race consciousness is not permitted for whites.

Even Iran's PressTV gets into the act—with an article expressing the exact same views as the American MSM! It talks about the "neo-Nazi border patrol", quotes the SPLC, and tries to link the "neo-Nazis" to mainstream immigration control groups:

"Ready's militia is an outgrowth of border watch groups that have been part of the immigration debate in Arizona…the legislation, which takes effect July 29, is deemed racist as it would allow law enforcement officers to single out individuals by the color of their skin." [Neo-Nazis take on immigrants in AZ, Presstv.ir, July 18, 2010]

Contrary to the claims of this official Iranian media organ, and its odd bedfellows in the American MSM, Arizona’s SB 1070 does no such thing. In fact, the law explicitly mandates that "prosecutors would not investigate complaints based on race, color or national origin.

The Associated Press article uses language nearly identical to that used by Ahmadinejad's media organ.

"Ready is a reflection of the anger over illegal immigration in Arizona. Gov. Jan Brewer signed a controversial new immigration law in April.

The militia is an outgrowth of border watch groups that have been part of the immigration debate in Arizona. Patrols in the Arizona desert by Minutemen organizations brought national attention to illegal immigration in 2004 and 2005. Such groups continue to operate in Arizona, and law enforcement officials generally don't take issue with them as long as they don't take matters into their own hands."[Man with neo-Nazi ties leading patrols in AZ, By Michelle Price, July 17, 2010]

The AP article goes on to list several larger groups that patrol the border, such as the Patriot's Coalition which has over 500 members and Glenn Spencer's American Patrol, which operates three spotter airplanes.

So why is the group with over 500 members not being depicted all over the media as an example of citizen border patrol groups? Why not the group that operates three airplanes?

Why is this one group consisting of less than a half dozen members put front and center?

Because the MSM is undertaking a concerted effort to paint all supporters of Arizona's 1070 law, and immigration patriots in general, as "Nazis."

The AP article was reposted on the Salon.com website under the headline "Neo-Nazi Minuteman hunts Arizona immigrants"—despite the fact that J.T. Ready and his group are not in any of the Minuteman groups, are not endorsed by them, and do not have any relationship with them whatsoever.

Similarly, liberal activist Amy McMullen used the guilt by association tactic in a Tucson Sentinel column entitled Arizona’s SB 1070 isn’t racist... is it?

"[P]erhaps a look at the people who wrote and sponsored SB 1070 as well as those who enforce it will provide some clues of its racial motivations.

“Nobody wants to be labeled a racist, unless of course they are J.T. Ready, the self-proclaimed hater of all non-white people, who also happens to be a huge supporter of SB 1070."

There is actually no evidence whatsoever that J. T. Ready had anything to do with the writing or enactment of SB 1070. Nor does McMullen provide any evidence that this obscure individual had anything to do with the writing or passage of the bill, other than noting that FAIR "is identified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center." Her argument is simply: J.T. Ready is a Nazi and is opposed to immigration; therefore anyone who opposes open borders must be a Nazi as well. The SPLC identifies J.T. Ready as a Nazi and lumps FAIR in with him, so they must all be part of a vast, racist, conspiracy.

McMullen labels Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio as "the person who some view as the Heinrich Himmler of Arizona law enforcement." She gives no details of who exactly says this, so presumably it must be a source with even less credibility than the SPLC. She finally declares that supporters of SB 1070 "will be on the side of history occupied by the likes of J.T. Ready or the KKK."

In fact, even the true nature of this "neo-Nazi border patrol" is in doubt.

A typical article in the New York Daily News warns of an "armed militia to patrol the border and kill or capture immigrants." [Neo-Nazi groups take up arms in Arizona to combat illegal immigration, by Joe Tacopino, July 18th 2010] But the "action reports" from the purported "neo-Nazi death squad" seem less sinister.

For example, this recent blog post by J.T. Ready's friend Harry Hughes:

"Eventually, we came across an abandoned cattle watering area. Sitting under a water tank, were 11 suspected illegal aliens. They quickly gave themselves up and asked for water. We provided them with water and asked them if anyone needed medical attention.

“We notified the Pinal County Sheriff’s office and the Border Patrol. Being in a remote area, we expected an extend ETA for a response. During the wait, we must have handed out 30-40 20 oz. bottles of water. They drank it all." (Link and emphasis added)

The uproar over J.T. Ready is a red (or brown) herring. The authors of Arizona's SB 1070 have nothing to do with Nazism. The 61% of Americans who want a similar law in their own state are not Nazis—unless you seriously believe that 61% of Americans have converted to Nazism in the past few months.

This hysteria should be seen for what it is: just the latest manifestation of the ongoing campaign by the SPLC and their media allies to suppress honest debate on immigration policy.

What’s remarkable is not the rise of National Socialism in the American Southwest—but the unmatched capacity of the Treason Lobby to set the elite media agenda.

James Ryan (email him) is an intelligence analyst who lives and works in the Washington, D.C. metro area.

http://www.vdare.com/misc/100719_ryan.htm

[Gaillo]

Just looking for the truth cocksucker. You ever heard of that, the truth?


Pretty blatant there, General! See you in 3.

[ximmy]

I'm sorry the General had to go... me likey the General... :)

Grand Master Mellon.. You never cease to crack me up with your comments... LOL

"I'm smiting you for the butter cup comment now.
I'm totally serious."

[learn2swim]

General, where did you go? It's ok, you got busted promoting a Fed..... ;D

What's next, is JT gonna have pro-gun and US Constitution rallies? ???

If the Neo-Nazis had any brains, they would support gun control, open boarders, and government health care.. They could actually help out instead of being a bunch stupid looking jackasses. Only one problem, the Feds wouldn't fund them anymore.... :oo-->

[Brent]

General, where did you go? It's ok, you got busted promoting a Fed..... ;D




Maybe you should learn to read. He got banned for a personal attack.

[learn2swim]

General, where did you go? It's ok, you got busted promoting a Fed..... ;D




Maybe you should learn to read. He got banned for a personal attack.


Ok, genius...LOL