Israel Zionism

[Buddha]

Discuss it here.

[Awoke]

Why just here?

It is a part of every aspect of life, and can be discussed in almost every thread while still remaining in context.

[sirgonzo420]

I can't say that I'm an israel zionist, but I AM a lunar zionist.




I support jews relocating to the moon, where they will be free to run amok and do as they please, and where they won't be able to control earthly media, government, finance, academia, etc ad nauseum.

[the white rabbit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8hE6WN9xRU

[mamboni]

Israel - the nation born born of lies, treachery and betrayal.

Read the writings of Benjamin Freedman.

[Phoenix]

The Muslims are a check on Israel. The Jews are a check on Muslims.

In the past, I had gotten naive and believed that Israel was the only problem in the Middle East. BOTH sides are a problem. And we must not - cannot - forget that there are tens of millions of Islamic invaders in European cities.

[Phoenix]

I can't say that I'm an israel zionist, but I AM a lunar zionist.




I support jews relocating to the moon, where they will be free to run amok and do as they please, and where they won't be able to control earthly media, government, finance, academia, etc ad nauseum.




And you don't think that Jews in control of the Moon wouldn't surely soon have concocted a plan to manipulate Earth's oceans?

;D

[sirgonzo420]

I can't say that I'm an israel zionist, but I AM a lunar zionist.




I support jews relocating to the moon, where they will be free to run amok and do as they please, and where they won't be able to control earthly media, government, finance, academia, etc ad nauseum.




And you don't think that Jews in control of the Moon wouldn't surely soon have concocted a plan to manipulate Earth's oceans?

;D


Oh you thought I meant our moon?


They can have one of Saturn's!


;D

[gunDriller]

at the community garden i belong to, which is managed by a Jewish woman who manages a Lutheran church (got to make sure the Pastor doesn't talk about Martin Luther's "On the Lies of the Jews" work), there was a new couple, who named their baby Zion. The Jewish manager wrote a spiel about it in the email.

i almost vomited when i heard about it, but maybe the parents are Matrix fans and they're thinking of the Zion in that movie. of course the Wachowski brothers may be Israel supporters and that's why they named the "good place" Zion.


anyway, i then saw the mother and asked her how her garden plot was, having seen the father of Zion around town a few times in the meantime, she informed me that she was no longer with the father.

and baby Zion is nowhere to be seen.


i have thought about wearing an "Israel Did 9-11" T-shirt to one of the garden meetings, but i have a feeling it wouldn't go over well. ;D

[sirgonzo420]

at the community garden i belong to, which is managed by a Jewish woman who manages a Lutheran church (got to make sure the Pastor doesn't talk about Martin Luther's "On the Lies of the Jews" work), there was a new couple, who named their baby Zion. The Jewish manager wrote a spiel about it in the email.

i almost vomited when i heard about it, but maybe the parents are Matrix fans and they're thinking of the Zion in that movie. of course the Wachowski brothers may be Israel supporters and that's why they named the "good place" Zion.


anyway, i then saw the mother and asked her how her garden plot was, having seen the father of Zion around town a few times in the meantime, she informed me that she was no longer with the father.

and baby Zion is nowhere to be seen.


i have thought about wearing an "Israel Did 9-11" T-shirt to one of the garden meetings, but i have a feeling it wouldn't go over well. ;D


Oh man you definitely should!

[Ponce]

Well, my avatar infront of my home says it all..............

[Buddha]

This is striaght from the horses mouth, A Zionist Jew. This is from a dead forum that I still keep around, never got off of the ground, anyway a Zionist Jew joined, and was outspoken in his beliefs. I started a thread similar to this one, entitled "What is Zionism?". This is what he wrote.



"I am happy discuss to any aspect of Zionism.

First, to properly understand Zionism, one must know the many facets of it. The two major forces, the Secular Labor Zionists and the Religious Zionists, have hated each other and viewed each other as rivals to power, just like Fatah and Hamas with the Palestinians. Second, there are hundreds of misconceptions, straight out lies, Palestinian-bullsh*t-propaganda (I'll post some examples from youtube after this), and misgivings about the state of Israel that are not based on fact. Without the full history, the story of Israel looks like something that it's completely not.

Zionism as a whole has existed since the days of the ancient pre-Davidic Israelites. In our Torah, the Holy Land is for the descendents of Isaac. (And in the Qu'ran, the whole world is theirs, we just want a state the size of New Jersey). Joshua conquered the human-sacrificing, cannablistic tribes in "Canaan", and a thriving Israelite kingdom rose and fell for centuries in that spot. Herzl just took this idea to a political-movement level that Jews should regain the land they once had but lost due to thousands of years of one corrupt conqueror after another. They originally wanted parts of Argentina, but they later worked out a deal with the Ottomans, then later the British, and even the Arab leaders liked the idea of a Jewish state before pan-Arabism and widespread hostility against the Jews broke out. Fueling this fire was the formation of rogue Zionist gangs, many of them Marxist and atheistic, who were against traditional Jewish culture and beliefs and had similar ideology to their Jewish bolshevik brethren in regards for how to deal with your enemies. Secular Zionist gangs would actually attack and kill religious Jews who were Arab-friendly on their way home from Synagogue just to prove a point.

The people who give Zionism the bad name it has are often the corrupt, money-driven Jews (What, a Jew admitting that there are corrupt money-driven Jews?) who are all about their wealth and power. I am a Kahanist (a super-Zionist who believes in tossing out the hostile Palis to the Arab countries and follows the beliefs of Rabbi Meir Kahane) and I firmly believe that the Jews have won the right to their land against a hostile and murderous Arab enemy, and anyone who wants to argue must be willing to cede their house and give it to an Indian and sail back to Europe (or wherever you came from). However, it is still different than the Americans and Indians case, because the Jews had lived there way before the Arabs, who conquered the land and built a giant mosque on the Jewish temple site to cement their domination.

In order to really understand Zionism, you have to look at the social and political climate of when it was born in the 1800s, as well as all of the facts regarding the conditions of the Mandate, Arab counter-immigration from Syria (Churchill said "If it weren't for the Jews there wouldn't be half as many Arabs here"), the White Paper (especially during the holocaust, a major kick in the nuts with a steel toed boot by the Imperial British).

At one point, the Zionist gangs were trying to reach out to the Nazis, offering to fight the British in Palestine in exchange for the Germans shipping all their Jews over instead of shipping them to the firing squads and gas showers. The Nazis were originally keen on this plan, and if they had gone through with it, would have easily won the war, since Britain would have lost in North Africa. Jewish soldiers were tough as nails, the Jewish legion was one of England's finest performing units, and it was Jewish attacks, not Arabs on the British after the war that banished their bleedin' bums back to Britain. However, Hitler decided to work with the Mufti Al-Husseini instead of the Zionists, and this was likely one of the prime reasons why he lost the war against the Russians, since the Arab fascists couldn't even take on a brigade of Indian colonial conscripts.

And if you know about Mufti Al-Husseini, you'll understand the Jewish fear of Arabs of Islam. The grand-master Muslim actually formed SS brigades to hunt down Jews in the balkans, and tried to poison wells in Tel Aviv, besides organizing an 8 nation invasion of Israel in 1948 (which failed). "Arise Arabs! Kill Jews wherever you find them, for this pleases Allah and restores your honor." Imagine the Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem saying "Arise Jews! Kill Arabs wherever you find them!" Oh the double standard.

There is much to discuss about Zionism, too much for right now at 3:35am at least."

[Ponce]

You can dress a monkey in a tux and it will remain a monkey............

[Buddha]

You can dress a monkey in a tux and it will remain a monkey............


Nice one Ponce... I would like this to be a discussion how ever. I have posted the views of the Zionist, something rarley heared here other then by their actions.

[Book]

I am a Kahanist (a super-Zionist who believes in tossing out the hostile Palis to the Arab countries and follows the beliefs of Rabbi Meir Kahane) and I firmly believe...



The Jewish Defense League or JDL is a Jewish organization whose stated goal is to "protect Jews from antisemitism by whatever means necessary".[1] While the group asserts that it "unequivocally condemns terrorism", and claims to have a "strict no-tolerance policy against terrorism and other felonious acts,"[2] it was characterized as "a right-wing terrorist group" by the Federal Bureau of Investigation[3] in 2001, and as a hate group involved in "anti-Arab terrorism" by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[4] According to the FBI, the JDL has been involved in plotting terrorist attacks within the United States.[3].

Founded by Rabbi Meir Kahane in New York City in 1968, JDL's self-described purpose was to protect Jews from local manifestations of antisemitism.[1][5] Its criticism of the Soviet Union garnered support for the group, transforming it from a "vigilante club" to an activist organization with membership numbering over 15,000.[6] The group took to bombing Arab and Soviet properties in the United States,[7] and targeting various alleged "enemies of the Jewish people", ranging from Arab-American political activists to neo-Nazis, for assassination.[8] A number of JDL members have been linked to violent, and sometimes deadly, attacks in the United States, including the killing of American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee regional director Alex Odeh in 1985, and a plot to kill U.S. Congressman Darrell Issa in 2001.[9]

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[Phoenix]

In our Torah, the Holy Land is for the descendents of Isaac. (And in the Qu'ran, the whole world is theirs, we just want a state the size of New Jersey).


LIE ALERT! LIE ALERT!

The "Torah" he refers to is the "ORAL 'Torah'," aka the Babylonian Talmud, not the Books of Moses.

The Talmud prescribes that the entire world is the domain of the Jews, and that "home base" is "Eretz Yisrael," from the Nile to the Euphrates.

[Buddha]

This is what I like, discussion. Both view points. I will play the devils advocate, and perhaps invite the Zionist here as I still have contact with him.

[Buddha]

In our Torah, the Holy Land is for the descendents of Isaac. (And in the Qu'ran, the whole world is theirs, we just want a state the size of New Jersey).


LIE ALERT! LIE ALERT!

The "Torah" he refers to is the "ORAL 'Torah'," aka the Babylonian Talmud, not the Books of Moses.

The Talmud prescribes that the entire world is the domain of the Jews, and that "home base" is "Eretz Yisrael," from the Nile to the Euphrates.

Do you have a good link to the Talmud? I would like to study it.

[Buddha]

Just can't help myself..

http://blog.gaapweb.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/12/kerry.jpg

[Phoenix]

Do you have a good link to the Talmud? I would like to study it.


http://www.come-and-hear.com/navigate.html

Just remember: "every Goy who studies the Talmud, and every Jew who helps him in it, ought to die." (so sayeth the "sages" of the Talmud) ;D

[Buddha]

Do you have a good link to the Talmud? I would like to study it.


http://www.come-and-hear.com/navigate.html

Just remember: "every Goy who studies the Talmud, and every Jew who helps him in it, ought to die." (so sayeth the "sages" of the Talmud) ;D


looks like a considerable task

[sirgonzo420]

Does anyone have a Talmud that is easily downloadable?

[Book]

Does anyone have a Talmud that is easily downloadable?


http://www.come-and-hear.com/download.html

:)

[Bigjon]

As far as I'm concerned we have discussed this many times over and every time the Jews prove that they will lie cheat and scream anti-Semite, hater, hate, hate, hate. Because most of what they claim is a big lie.

[Phoenix]

Does anyone have a Talmud that is easily downloadable?


Other than the Come and Hear link Book and I have posted, try looking around here:

<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS330US330&q=soncino+talmud+torrent&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=">Torrent Search</a>

[gunDriller]

if this is disgusting, then yell at me and i will take it down.

i thought Zion was the Jewish term for pimple, so this picture represents Israeli Zionism

http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-05-08/1241744942-_theque_chp_IMG_2173.jpg

just a bunch of pimples that need to be popped.

i find soaking a towel in hot water helps bring the puss to the surface :o


but i guess putting a hot towel over Palestine won't drive the Jews out to their refugee camp in Beverly Hills.

so i don't have a solution for world peace today.

[MNeagle]

Yes it's digusting!

[StackerKen]

I don't know much (or anything really) about this stuff.
But I think the people some of you call "Jews" are not Jews at all.
And Like Ponce has said, Maybe calling them Zionist's(whatever that is) is the better way to go

eta: Also there may be a lot of people that call themselves 'Jews" that are not really Jews at all

[Sparky]

In all of history, lots of individuals and groups have tried to amass power and influence. How is it that Zionists have had so much success at it?

[gunDriller]

Yes it's digusting!


sorry.

it's my artistic representation of Israeli Zionism, a pimple that needs to be popped.

[StackerKen]

In all of history, lots of individuals and groups have tried to amass power and influence. How is it that Zionists have had so much success at it?


Good Question

[Buddha]

In all of history, lots of individuals and groups have tried to amass power and influence. How is it that Zionists have had so much success at it?


Good Question


indeed, but why not try to answer it? It is because the have infiltrated many governments/churches through out time. They have tried and died several times, but they keep coming back.

[Buddha]

Zionism (Hebrew: ציונות‎, Tsiyonut) is a nationalist[1] Jewish political movement that, in its broadest sense, calls for the self-determination of the Jewish people and a sovereign, Jewish national homeland.[2] Since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily to support and advocate on behalf of the Jewish state, and its current existence.

Apparently that "self determination" refers to the globe, Manifest Destiny once again.

[Buddha]

In all of history, lots of individuals and groups have tried to amass power and influence. How is it that Zionists have had so much success at it?


it is because of the supposed "history" that they have on their side.

[StackerKen]

I wonder what the Zionists have to gain from the financial ruin of the U.S.

Its seems to me the U.S. would be more useful if it were to be Financially prosperous.

What good is a Bankrupt country?

[Buddha]

I wonder what the Zionists have to gain from the financial ruin of the U.S.

Its seems to me the U.S. would be more useful if it were to be Financially prosperous.

What good is a Bankrupt country?


Sound thoughts StackerKen... I would think that a bankrupt military power would be easier led, like a starving dog to food.

[Book]

I wonder what the Zionists have to gain from the financial ruin of the U.S.



To cover up jew theft of TRILLIONS...lol.

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[PatColo]

thread discussing this article-
http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-zionist-elephant-in-the-room/msg2940/#msg2940

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This David Icke article is a couple years old now, but I find it one of those landmark articles which really helps cut through the synthetic fog & untangle so much about the zion/jooz/izzy/etc question.

Zionism = the political movement of the global central bankster usury empire sucking the blood of humanity.

Izzy = the global usury empire's (temporary?) sovereign base of operations, until the historic sovereignty paradigm is dismantled (UN/NWO/world government of/by/for the central bankster usury empire).



The Zionist Elephant In The Room (http://www.rense.com/general86/zelephant.htm)

The David Icke Newsletter

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... BUT SEE IT AND YOU'RE 'RACIST'


Hello all ...

The political creed of Zionism has big ears and a long trunk and I think it's time that was pointed out. It also stampedes through our lives at every level and that needs to be said, too.

It has created a pincer-movement on the human mind by hijacking staggering amounts of political, corporate, banking and media power on one side and by using the fear of being called 'anti-Semitic' if you dare to state the bloody obvious.

They have been able to do this by equating in public perception that Zionism = Jewish people. It does not. Zionism is a political creed introduced by the House of Rothschild to advance the goals of the Illuminati families that are largely controlled by the Rothschilds.

When people think of Zionism they think of Jewish people. When they think of Israel they think of Jewish people. That's understandable given the propaganda, but it is seriously misleading and those instant connections need to be broken if we are going to understand what's going on here.

Zionism means Rothschild just as Israel means Rothschild. When we see the extraordinary number of Zionists in key positions around the world we are looking not at 'manipulating Jews', but manipulating Zionists representing the interests and demands of the Rothschilds.


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Significant numbers of Jewish people are not Zionists and oppose that appalling creed while many Zionists are not Jewish. These include the Christian Zionists and Obama's vice-president, Joe Biden, who told Israeli television 'I'm a Zionist'. Here's the clip if you can stand it ... If, as Biden rightly says, you don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist, how can it be a racial rather than a political movement? It can't. It's just made to appear like that to manipulate public perception because opposing Zionism then becomes opposing Jewish people as a whole and the 'you're a racist' card can be played over and over.

Far from protecting and advancing the interests of the mass of Jewish people it has often been devastating for them and caused millions to be labelled unfairly by the actions of the Zionist elite. On the Jews Against Zionism website one feature highlights how Rothschild Zionism targeted Jews who had lived for generations in Palestine side-by-side with Arabs in peace and harmony:

'The religious Jews who by virtue of their faith, clearly contradicted Zionist nationalism, and who had lived peacefully with their Arab neighbors for generations, became unwillingly identified with the Zionist cause and their struggle with the Arabs.

They requested the United Nations that Jerusalem be designated as a defacto international city. They appealed to the diplomatic corps assigned to Jerusalem -- but to no avail. They were hence confronted with the choice of either becoming a part of the Zionist State, which diametrically opposed the interests of Jews as a religion, or abandoning the land of which their forefathers were the first Jewish settlers.

Let's get this straight. Zionism doesn't give a damn about Jewish people. To the Rothschilds and their Zionist gofers and thugs the Jewish people as a whole are merely cattle to be used and abused as necessary - just like the rest of the human population.

The networks of the House of Rothschild were behind Hitler and the rise of the Nazi Party in the Rothschild heartland of Germany where they had changed their name from Bauer in 18th century Frankfurt and launched the dynasty that was to control global finance.

After the war the Rothschilds used public sympathy for Jewish people targeted by the Nazis to press for a homeland in Palestine. This was the alleged reason for the founding of Zionism, but that is only part of it.


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Rothschild

As I show in my books, the campaign to impose a Rothschild fiefdom in Palestine goes back at least to the earlier part of the 19th century and probably long before. It was given a massive boost with the Balfour Declaration in 1917 when the British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour declared in a letter his government's support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

This letter was sent by Balfour, an inner-circle member of an elite secret society called the Round Table, to Baron (Walter) Rothschild who funded the Round Table.

Today, Rothschild Illuminati fronts like the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group, Royal Institute of International Affairs, and others, still answer to the Round Table which string-pulls and coordinates from the shadows. This is why Zionists in government are invariably connected with these Rothschild-controlled organisations.

The Rothschilds funded the early settlers from Europe to relocate in post-war Palestine and they also funded and armed the terrorist groups, like Irgun, which bombed and terrorised Israel into existence in 1948, a campaign which forced 800,000 Palestinians to leave the land of their birth.

Israel is simply the State of Rothschild and how appropriate that they paid for the construction of the Israeli parliament building, the Knesset, and the Israel Supreme Court. The name Rothschild means Red-shield and it originates with the red shield 'Star of David' symbol (not a Jewish symbol before the Rothschilds) which they displayed on their house in Frankfurt ...


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... Seen it somewhere before ...?

The very flag of Israel tells you who owns it. There are many reasons why the Rothschilds and their allies wanted to hijack Palestine and one was to keep the Middle East in a state of disruption and turmoil from which a global war can eventually be triggered to usher in the New World Order of world government dictatorship.

The creation of Israel is a means not an end and the Rothschilds will be quite happy to leave the Jewish population to their fate if it suits them. After all, they've done it before.

The world's second biggest Zionist population is in the United States and given that both America and Israel are controlled by the Rothschild networks it is not hard to fathom why that slither of land in the Middle East receives around a third of all US overseas aid.

An average $3 billion a year is handed to the State of Rothschild as a result of decisions made by American administrations that are always, 'Republican' or 'Democrat', controlled by the Rothschilds. One hand of the network hands over the cash to another.

This explains why the United States never talks about the arsenal of nuclear weapons stockpiled by one of the world's most trigger-happy states. Israel refuses to discuss them and the American policy, recently reconfirmed by Obama, is never to ask or bring up the subject.

The last two US administrations are testament to the extent of Zionist (Rothschild) control of America and thus its foreign policy, not least with regard to Iraq, the former land of Sumer and Babylon, which according to some just happens to be part of the 'Greater Israel' that the Zionists seek to secure.

The 'Bush' government was the glove-puppet of the so-called neo-cons, or neoconservatives, whose only political philosophy in truth was the interests of Zionism. At the heart of the Rothschild-controlled neocon cabal were Richard Perle (Zionist), Paul Wolfowitz (Zionist), Dov Zakheim (Zionist), Douglas Feith (Zionist), John Bolton (Zionist), Lewis Libby (Zionist), the list goes on and on. These were the people who orchestrated the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq on behalf of the Rothschilds.


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Economic policy was dictated through the years of Reagan-Bush, Father Bush, Clinton and most of Boy Bush by Alan Greenspan (Zionist), chairman of the privately-owned US 'central bank', the Federal Reserve. Privately owned, that is, by the Rothschilds through a network of front people and organisations.

Greenspan introduced the policies of deregulation that culminated, as designed, in the free-for-all frenzy of greed by banks and financial markets in general that led to the crash in the last weeks of the Bush presidency. Greenspan resigned from the Fed before the consequences of his long-term game-plan exploded in lost homes, jobs and savings. He was replaced by Bernard Bernanke (Zionist).

Greenspan was enthusiastically supported in his deregulation through successive administrations by Treasury Secretaries in the Clinton years, Robert E. Rubin (Zionist) and Larry Summers (Zionist), and also by the President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the most powerful in the Fed cabal, Timothy Geithner (Zionist).

When Mr. Fake Change won the presidency amid the gathering financial crisis, caused by all of the above, and others, he appointed Geithner as his Treasury Secretary and Summers as head of the White House Economic Council. Both are protégés of Robert Rubin who resigned from Citigroup earlier this year for his role in 'advising' it to the brink of collapse.

Obama's Budget Director is Peter Orszag (Zionist) who headed the company that advised the Icelandic Central Bank in the prelude to the crash of Iceland's financial system. This has led to Iceland being fast-tracked into the Rothschild-created European Union to 'save' its economy. Orszag also advised the Russian Treasury when state-owned assets and resources were handed to Zionist oligarchs, including Roman Abramovich who is famous in the UK as the owner of Chelsea Football Club.

Add to all this the fact that the World Bank is headed by Robert Zoellick (Zionist), who replaced Paul Wolfowitz (Zionist), and that the International Monetary Fund, or IMF, is run by Dominique Strauss-Kahn (Zionist).

Anyone still doubt that the Rothschild network controls global finance and therefore the lives and choices of virtually every man, woman and child on the planet?

The Rothschilds are at the heart of the Obama White House in the form of Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel (Zionist) and Chief White House Advisor David Axelrod (Zionist). Emanuel has served in the Israeli army and his father was an operative with the Rothschild terrorist group, Irgun, as it bombed Israel into being. This included the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946 that killed 91 people.


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Rahm Emanuel also worked closely Robert E. Rubin (Zionist) during the Clinton years to impose NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement, which was designed from the start to be a stepping-stone to a North American, and eventually an American Union, along the lines of the EU. The Zionist world is very small indeed.

David Axelrod ran Obama's election campaigns and now oversees his every word slavishly read from his teleprompter screens. There is little that Obama says that his Zionist handlers don't tell him or give him to say.

They have also ensured that US policy for Iran and the Persian Gulf is headed by Dennis Ross (Zionist) who has served Israeli interests in successive American administrations. There will not be a cigarette paper behind the scenes between him and that trio of tyranny, Netanyahu, Lieberman, Barak, the prime minister, foreign minister and defence minister of Israel. Rothschild stooges, in other words.

Zionist Mandelson works for the pyramid

The most influential figure by far in the current British government is Peter Mandelson (Zionist) who continues to amass more titles and powers from the beleaguered Prime Minister Gordon Brown. Mandelson is an insider operative for the Rothschilds and has frequently accepted hospitality from his close friend and associate, Nathaniel Rothschild. This week Mandelson called for the UK to join the (Rothschild) single European currency.

Meanwhile, the hapless and hopeless Gordon Brown did as he was told and appointed Ivan Lewis (Zionist) to be minister of state with responsibility for, wait for it ... British policy on the Middle East. Lewis, vice-chair of the Labour Friends of Israel, was an outspoken supporter of Israel's slaughter of the innocent in Gaza this year. Lewis said of his new job:

'My responsibility for the Middle East peace process is particularly poignant. I have never hidden my pride at being Jewish or my support for the State of Israel.'

What chance do the Palestinians have of fairness and justice? None.

In France, as I mentioned last week, President Sarkozy (Zionist) is a long-time asset of Mossad, the Rothschild enforcement agency masquerading as the intelligence agency of Israel. Mossad has been implicated in terror attacks and other horrors all over the world because it represents the Rothschild global agenda and not the people of Israel.


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French President Sarkozy (Zionist Jew)


Look also at the Zionist (Rothschild) control of the entertainment and media industry in the form of people like Fox News President Peter Chernin (Zionist); Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Zionist); Walt Disney CEO Robert Igor (Zionist); Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (Zionist); Warner Brothers Chairman Barry Meyer (Zionist); CBS CEO Leslie Moonves (Zionist); MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Zionist); and NBC/Universal Studios CEO Jeff Zucker (Zionist).


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The Rothschilds control America

The Los Angeles Times columnist Joel Stein (Zionist) wrote an article proclaiming that Americans who don't think Jews (Zionists) control Hollywood are just plain 'dumb'. Stein went on:

'The Jews are so dominant. I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies. But lo and behold, even one of that six, AMC President Charles Collier, turned out to be a Jew! ... As a proud Jew, I want America to know of our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood.'

And not only Hollywood. Shahar Ilan, a daily features editor with the leading Israeli newspaper, Ha'aretz, wrote: 'The Jews do control the American media. This is very clear, and claiming otherwise is an insult to common knowledge'. Zionists have truly massive influence over the news media with the likes of Rupert Murdoch (Zionist) with his vast television and newspaper empire, and the Sulzberger family (Zionists) who own the New York Times. The list is enormous across television, radio, newspapers and the Internet.

When you look at the number of Zionists in key positions of power and control in politics, banking, corporations, news media, Hollywood and so on, it is sobering to think that Jewish people are just 1.7% of the American population and many of those won't be Zionists.

What if the same situation happened with Arab people or Chinese, Irish or even black Americans? There would be an outcry and questions asked about how one group can have so much influence over the lives of a whole nation, indeed many nations. And I stress again that, in the end, this control system leads to the Rothschilds and the spider they represent at the centre of the web.


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B'nai Brith Front Man Harry Abrams


The Rothschilds established B'nai B'rith in 1843 to prevent exposure of the global Zionist networks. The ' BB' is an offshoot of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry and operates worldwide to brand as 'anti-Semitic' anyone who exposes the Rothschild operation.

In 1913, B'nai B'rith launched an organisation specifically to target and defame researchers, in fact anyone, who questions, criticises or exposes Israel and the ever-gathering Zionist influence across the world. With typical irony they called it the Anti-Defamation League, better known as the ADL, and claimed it was there to protect Jewish people. As Plato said: 'This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector'.

The ADL is, in fact, a sub-agency of the Israeli (Rothschild) centre for covert operations, the Mossad, which, according to a former agent, has the motto: 'By way of deception, thou shalt do war'. If that isn't the motto, it should be. The ADL is behind the introduction of 'hate laws' which are aimed at silencing dissent against Zionism or Israel. The Jewish academic, Noam Chomsky, said this of the ADL in his book, Necessary Illusions:

'The ADL has virtually abandoned its earlier role as a civil rights organization, becoming "one of the main pillars" of Israeli propaganda in the U.S., as the Israeli press casually describes it, engaged in surveillance, blacklisting, compilation of FBI-style files circulated to adherents for the purpose of defamation, angry public responses to criticism of Israeli actions, and so on.

These efforts, buttressed by insinuations of anti-Semitism or direct accusations, are intended to deflect or undermine opposition to Israeli policies, including Israel's refusal, with U.S. support, to move towards a general political settlement.'

The American rabbi, Michael Lerner, agrees:

'The ADL lost most of it credibility in my eyes as a civil rights organization when it began to identify criticisms of Israel with anti-Semitism, still more when it failed to defend me when I was receiving threats to my life from right-wing Jewish groups because of my critique of Israeli policy toward Palestinians (it said that these were not threats that came from my being Jewish, so therefore they were not within their area of concern).'

Firstly, the ADL has never been a civil rights organisation. Its very purpose has been to take them away. Secondly, it is not there to defend anyone, Jewish or otherwise. It's there to represent the sadistic interests of the House of Rothschild and the wider Illuminati.


http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/adlhatecrime.jpg

It is so important that people are aware of this background to Zionism because at the moment it is basically speeding along unchallenged through lack of awareness and fear of being dubbed 'racist'.

Well, I couldn't care less what people say about me with regard to this or anything else. I want to uncover the truth, not win a popularity contest.

Please, let's circulate this information as effectively as we can and bring it from the shadows to public attention. We must refuse to be intimidated into silence over this.

Martin Luther King said: '... we must straighten our backs and work for our freedom. A man can't ride you unless your back is bent.'

It is time to stand up, in every sense.


http://www.rense.com/general86/zelephant.htm

[StackerKen]

Pat; Is that the same David Icke as in I Am Me, I Am Free by David Icke ?

The Guy is a Nut

[Book]

http://www.judiciaryreport.com/images/Bernard-and-Ruth-Madoff3-17-09-2.jpg

Yeah...let's not point fingers at these nice innocent jewish folks...just those evil "Zionists"...lol.

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[PatColo]

Pat; Is that the same David Icke as in I Am Me, I Am Free by David Icke ?

The Guy is a Nut


actually, "Nut Job" is the more fashionable ad hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) smear these days, when someone seeks to avoid addressing the substance of their opponent's argument.

Ken, do you have any observations, counterpoints, etc you'd like to make about the substance of Icke's article, "The Zionist Elephant In The Room (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-zionist-elephant-in-the-room/msg2940/#msg2940)" ???

Book: Madoffs are obviously uber-zionists, who do you think had their back during Bernie's "productive years" in all his prestigious positions; where do you think all that disappeared $$ evaporated to?
:dunno

[UFM]

nut job = someone who write books claiming our prezidents are blood sucking lizards from outer space = david icke

yes he a nut job

[Book]

Book: Madoffs are obviously uber-zionists, who do you think had their back during Bernie's "productive years" in all his prestigious positions; where do you think all that disappeared $$ evaporated to?



http://topnews.in/files/bernard-madoff_0.jpg

Madoff never gave a shit about Israel and is no "Zionist". Just like all the other money-grubbing Wall Street jews, they care not about "Israel" until they get indicted and need a place to flee prosecution. More jews live in NYC and Miami and Hollywood then ever lived in Israel...lol.

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[Buddha]

What is Zionism? You guys, Book in particular, are bashing Jews. Bash your fellow white Americans for letting the country get the way that it is. Again as I said, I am playing the devil's advocate.

So PatColo, Zionism is the root of evil in the world? (devils advocate, maybe literally) Does Zionism = Evil and does Evil = Zionism?