View Full Version : Righteous and honorable jews
JDRock
22nd July 2010, 01:27 PM
I nominate;
Paul the apostle
Benjamin freedman
we get accused of jew bashing here.....well here is a list of jews we LOVE. Hows that, " you guys just hate all jews" thing working for you now?? :oo-->
please contribute and post your own.
mamboni
22nd July 2010, 01:40 PM
Jim Sinclair
von Mises
to name just a couple.
sirgonzo420
22nd July 2010, 01:57 PM
David Cole
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=976870941610001004#docid=-741565070797208303
Phoenix
22nd July 2010, 02:10 PM
I nominate;
Paul the apostle
Not a "Jew" in the modern sense. Judean.
Phoenix
22nd July 2010, 02:10 PM
Norman Finkelstein
StackerKen
22nd July 2010, 02:13 PM
Albert Einstein ?
heck...I don't know ::)
Argentium
22nd July 2010, 02:17 PM
Kinky Friedman and some of the physicists in the Manhattan Project, like Feinmann and Bethe.
philo beddoe
22nd July 2010, 02:18 PM
Albert Einstein ?
heck...I don't know ::)
Sorry kenb, He's the biggest liar of them all
never invented shit
never built shit
never finished college
no light bulbs, no nuclear bombs, no radios
just a theory his wife plagiarized for him and the jew media picked up on as his
gunDriller
22nd July 2010, 02:28 PM
Tim Miller is one of the foremost practitioners of the style of yoga called Ashtanga in the US. it is the most physically strenuous form of yoga i have found.
http://dreamfitness.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/backbend1.jpg
hold that pose for 5 or 10 minutes and it will kick your ass. the Ashtanga workout is normally about 2 hours.
Miller went to India to learn the sport from Patabhi Jois, who dug it out of ancient texts along with some other famous physical yoga guy.
because his name is Miller, he might be Jewish.
it's impressive when you meet some guy who is in his 50's who is about as fit as an Olympic gymnast. it's obvious in Tim's case that it's because of his Yoga practice.
StackerKen
22nd July 2010, 02:33 PM
Albert Einstein ?
heck...I don't know ::)
Sorry kenb, He's the biggest liar of them all
never invented sh*t
never built sh*t
never finished college
no light bulbs, no nuclear bombs, no radios
just a theory his wife plagiarized for him and the jew media picked up on as his
ok Thanks Philo
He was the only jewish name I could think of :-\
oldmansmith
22nd July 2010, 02:38 PM
Nobody has mentioned Jesus Christ?
Ponce
22nd July 2010, 02:49 PM
JDRock..........the war by words (for now) that we are having is against the ZIONISTS "JEWS" and not against the Semited Jews of the Bible............by trying to mix the two of them together you are telling me something about who you are........stop doing that because not all of those here are stupid.........and yes we do have some stupid people here..........OK OK starting with me, but not so stupid as mixing those two to make one.
StackerKen
22nd July 2010, 02:50 PM
Nobody has mentioned Jesus Christ?
Jesus Christ was a Israelite ( and/or Hebrew) and a Levite
I don't think that makes him a jew
horseshoe3
22nd July 2010, 02:54 PM
Murray Rothbard
Lew Rockwell
Ponce
22nd July 2010, 02:55 PM
No Mr Ken...........he was not a Jew......
Grand Master Melon
22nd July 2010, 03:21 PM
Ian Muldoon, a great friend, a lousy singer and the funniest hairy jewish bastard I've ever met.
RIP Ian
JDRock
22nd July 2010, 03:40 PM
Nobody has mentioned Jesus Christ?
Jesus Christ was a Israelite ( and/or Hebrew) and a Levite
I don't think that makes him a jew
the sign over his cross " the king of the jews"
oldman smith i didnt want to bring his name into this in case it got ugly, but he was my first pick.
JDRock
22nd July 2010, 03:43 PM
Nathaniel Kapner
StackerKen
22nd July 2010, 03:44 PM
Nobody has mentioned Jesus Christ?
Jesus Christ was a Israelite ( and/or Hebrew) and a Levite
I don't think that makes him a jew
the sign over his cross " the king of the jews"
oldman smith i didnt want to bring his name into this in case it got ugly, but he was my first pick.
Good point JD
also there is this
Luke 23:3 (NIV)
So Pilate asked Jesus, "Are you the king of the Jews?" "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied.
King James Bible
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto them, Thou sayest it.
Pilate was the Roman procurator of Judea during the years A.D. 26-36. According to Jewish law, the Sanhedrin has found Jesus worthy of death under the charge of blasphemy. But Jewish law does not prevail under Roman rule; therefore the charge is now amended. Jesus is accused of calling himself King - this would be a charge of treason against Caesar under Roman rule. The charge made now by the Jewish leaders before Pilate therefore is a political one, not religious. Pilate asks, "Are you the King of the Jews?" for this reason. Jesus' answer, to my modern American English-speaking ears, is a rather strange one: "You say so." But, my study bible notes, this answer is really an indirect affirmative answer. I read that this is tantamount, in the original understanding, to saying, "It is as you say." However, Jesus is accused of many other things (so we are told) to which he makes no answer whatsoever. The distinction, I read, is between false and true charges: Jesus admits to his identity both in the trial with the temple leadership and before Pilate. To false charges he remains silent.
Ponce
22nd July 2010, 03:53 PM
Ken? Obama is not an american and yet..........hes the king of the US.........same with Jesus......and as Herr Hitler who was not even a German.
Is not what you are but what people makes you be.
StackerKen
22nd July 2010, 03:57 PM
Ken? Obama is not an american and yet..........hes the king of the US.........same with Jesus......and as Herr Hitler who was not even a German.
Is not what you are but what people makes you be.
That is also A good point Ponce....thank you
So it seems, it really isn't important (to me) if He was jew or not...or anyone else for that matter
StackerKen
22nd July 2010, 04:09 PM
one more this about Jesus and I will save the rest for the R&F sub forum
Jesus said,
"My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews.
But now my kingdom is from another place."
So was he the King of the jews?
Silver Rocket Bitches!
22nd July 2010, 04:24 PM
These guys
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/about/mission.cfm
Phoenix
22nd July 2010, 04:32 PM
Nobody has mentioned Jesus Christ?
Why would we? Jesus Christ was a Judean. A "Jew" implies Khazar.
Libertarian_Guard
22nd July 2010, 04:36 PM
JDRock..........the war by words (for now) that we are having is against the ZIONISTS "JEWS" and not against the Semited Jews of the Bible............by trying to mix the two of them together you are telling me something about who you are........stop doing that because not all of those here are stupid.........and yes we do have some stupid people here..........OK OK starting with me, but not so stupid as mixing those two to make one.
Well said Ponce, very well said.
But some can not separate the two in their minds.
When this forum first started I sent a pm to another member pretty much saying what you've said here, and the person was so mad he cursed me out in a pm!
This mindset is so counter productive, I sometimes wonder if pro-zionists play a game of blaming a Jew for EVERYTHING wrong with this world, just to water down the otherwise 'closed case' against zionism.
Phoenix
22nd July 2010, 04:36 PM
also there is this
Luke 23:3 (NIV)
So Pilate asked Jesus, "Are you the king of the Jews?" "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied.
King James Bible
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto them, Thou sayest it.
The correct translation, into modern language usage, would be "King of the Judeans."
The term "Jew" refers today to followers of the Talmud, usually of the Khazar ethnicity. Jesus was neither.
Phoenix
22nd July 2010, 04:37 PM
Herr Hitler who was not even a German.
Then what was he?
Libertarian_Guard
22nd July 2010, 04:39 PM
Herr Hitler who was not even a German.
Then what was he?
Austrian
philo beddoe
22nd July 2010, 04:49 PM
JDRock..........the war by words (for now) that we are having is against the ZIONISTS "JEWS" and not against the Semited Jews of the Bible............by trying to mix the two of them together you are telling me something about who you are........stop doing that because not all of those here are stupid.........and yes we do have some stupid people here..........OK OK starting with me, but not so stupid as mixing those two to make one.
Well said Ponce, very well said.
But some can not separate the two in their minds.
When this forum first started I sent a pm to another member pretty much saying what you've said here, and the person was so mad he cursed me out in a pm!
This mindset is so counter productive, I sometimes wonder if pro-zionists play a game of blaming a Jew for EVERYTHING wrong with this world, just to water down the otherwise 'closed case' against zionism.
blah blah blah
let's say the top 1000 zionist criminals are instantly vaporized.....there will be a whole new crop of everyday jews to fill the void in no time
Ponce
22nd July 2010, 04:50 PM
Phoenix? take off your shoes and go to bed...........nap tme.
Gypsybiker45
22nd July 2010, 05:00 PM
Nobody has mentioned Jesus Christ?
Jesus Christ was a Israelite ( and/or Hebrew) and a Levite
I don't think that makes him a jew
Israelite and Levite are both much earlier terms, from a different time. The Kingdom of Israel, was destroyed by the Assyrians. The Kingdom of Judah,Which had appeared after the death of King Solomon(yup that one!) was the result of a civil war. Judah, survived mostly since the Assyrians didnt want to stretch thin, as Egypt was a direct threat. After the Assyrians were replaced by Babylon,Judah fell to the Babylonian Empire.this is the point where much of the Judean elite were deported to Babylon. When Persia conquered Babylon, Judah was in Persian hands, Where Cyrus allowed many to return to their homeland , Then came Alexander, and the Greeks , then Egypt , then finally, the Romans came, which Jesus was born under the rule of Herod I. So he was technically a Judean by birth. raised as a Jew religiously, and arguably a partial Roman citizen by the "Latin Right".
Gypsybiker45
22nd July 2010, 05:02 PM
Herr Hitler who was not even a German.
Then what was he?
Hitler may have been Germanic, but he wasnt a German Citizen at birth. He was born and raised in the Austro-Hungarian Empire. FWIW Napoleon was a Corsican by birth, more Italian than French
Phoenix
22nd July 2010, 05:14 PM
Herr Hitler who was not even a German.
Then what was he?
Austrian
That's not an ethnicity.
Phoenix
22nd July 2010, 05:16 PM
Herr Hitler who was not even a German.
Then what was he?
Hitler may have been Germanic, but he wasnt a German Citizen at birth. He was born and raised in the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
Hitler had a German name, spoke German, practiced German culture, and had the citizenship of an artificial country that is an ancient land of the German Nation.
Glass
22nd July 2010, 05:36 PM
Jew and Judean can be used interchangably. Jew is short for Judean. Jews are Judeans from Judea. I'm not sure there was a historical "Israel" but there was a Judea for sure. Perhaps I'm mixing my Judeans with my Khazaran's.
Gypsybiker45
22nd July 2010, 05:39 PM
Herr Hitler who was not even a German.
Then what was he?
Hitler may have been Germanic, but he wasnt a German Citizen at birth. He was born and raised in the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
Hitler had a German name, spoke German, practiced German culture, and had the citizenship of an artificial country that is an ancient land of the German Nation.
Technically, maybe. But lets be Historical here,and accurate. The Germanic name for "German" is "Deutsch".Austrians do not refer to themselves in that manner. Germany or Germania is a Roman term for the lands east of the Rhine and north of the Danube. he Country known as Germany did not exist until 1871 ,before that it was a non unified collection of German speaking states and cities. Austria was the leading power of the German speaking states prior to that time.Later It unified with the Magyar state of Hungary to strengthen its position against the Russian and Ottoman Empires. Prussia was the unifying power of Germany, by either political or military means,as the Prussians recognized the threats of both the west and east.In fact when Germany was forming,after a brief alliance they fought the Prusso-Austrian War (1866) where Austria upon losing was ejected from the German confederation.Basically, The two countries developed from the same stock and basic culture, but in different ways.
Gypsybiker45
22nd July 2010, 05:42 PM
Jew and Judean can be used interchangably. Jew is short for Judean. Jews are Judeans from Judea. I'm not sure there was a historical "Israel" but there was a Judea for sure. Perhaps I'm mixing my Judeans with my Khazaran's.
There was definitely a Kingdom of Israel, up until the split after Solomon,and the destruction by Assyria. Its well documented by several different civilizations, and artifacts. Judea was one of the provinces or "tribes" that formed it until the split.
Phoenix
22nd July 2010, 06:27 PM
Jew and Judean can be used interchangably.
Nope.
Jew is short for Judean.
Nope.
Jews are Judeans from Judea.
Nope.
I'm not sure there was a historical "Israel" but there was a Judea for sure. Perhaps I'm mixing my Judeans with my Khazaran's.
The term "Jew" was invented for the Khazars who practiced Talmudism, due to the mistaken belief they were the same people of the Bible. The King James translators did not know the truth, and mistakenly inserted "Jew" when Judean was actually correct, since the two are different peoples. This error has continued to today.
Phoenix
22nd July 2010, 06:33 PM
Austrians do not refer to themselves in that manner.
They did, and do. Today, usually quietly, since calling oneself "Deutsch" could be construed to be "supporting anti-constitutional ideas."
They did as a nation-state until the "Allies" of WW I prohibited it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Austria
Republik Deutschösterreich or Deutsch-Österreich
"The provisional national assembly drafted provisional constitution that stated that "German Austria is a democratic republic" (Article 1) and "German Austria is a component of the German Republic" (Article 2). Later plebiscites in the provinces of Tyrol and Salzburg yielded majorities of 98 and 99% in favor of a unification with Germany. On November 22, the national assembly officially laid claim to all ethnic German areas of Cisleithania. However, the Allies of World War I opposed such a move."
The Country known as Germany did not exist until 1871 ,before that it was a non unified collection of German speaking states and cities.
And still called "Deutsch-land" by the Germans who lived there. Austria's (Die Ostmark auf Deutsch) non-inclusion was due to political intrigue. Bavaria could have as easily been excluded, but no one questions it's "Germanness."
Why do you want to insist that Austria is not German?
Austria was the leading power of the German speaking states prior to that time...
Please don't patronize me, I'm well aware of history.
kregener
22nd July 2010, 06:41 PM
Aaron Zelman
Ponce
22nd July 2010, 06:51 PM
Jew and Judean can be used interchangably. Jew is short for Judean. Jews are Judeans from Judea. I'm not sure there was a historical "Israel" but there was a Judea for sure. Perhaps I'm mixing my Judeans with my Khazaran's.
There was definitely a Kingdom of Israel, up until the split after Solomon,and the destruction by Assyria. Its well documented by several different civilizations, and artifacts. Judea was one of the provinces or "tribes" that formed it until the split.
Well Biker up till now they haven't found anything in Palestine that says that the Jews were ever there......only two artifacts have been found and they were prov en to be false, both of them made in this century, and that's why the Zionists keep destroying anything and everything that says that the Arabs or Palestinians were ever there.
Furthermore......the Khazar HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REAL JEWS .......but......for those Jews that went to their land to show them how to be Jews (wannabee Jews)......
Gypsybiker45
22nd July 2010, 07:25 PM
Jew and Judean can be used interchangably. Jew is short for Judean. Jews are Judeans from Judea. I'm not sure there was a historical "Israel" but there was a Judea for sure. Perhaps I'm mixing my Judeans with my Khazaran's.
There was definitely a Kingdom of Israel, up until the split after Solomon,and the destruction by Assyria. Its well documented by several different civilizations, and artifacts. Judea was one of the provinces or "tribes" that formed it until the split.
Well Biker up till now they haven't found anything in Palestine that says that the Jews were ever there......only two artifacts have been found and they were prov en to be false, both of them made in this century, and that's why the Zionists keep destroying anything and everything that says that the Arabs or Palestinians were ever there.
Furthermore......the Khazar HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REAL JEWS .......but......for those Jews that went to their land to show them how to be Jews (wannabee Jews)......
Well ponce, I didnt say Jews in Palestine did I? I said Kingdom of Israel,which werent Jews, they were hebrews. the Kingdom of Israel was a real political entity. your precious "Palestinians" get their name from Philistines,a group of the Sea Peoples,an also documented fact that they were quite the troublemakers for the local Canaanites and Egyptians. Why do you keep twisting things to make people look like they are zionist supporters when they are not?
Ponce
22nd July 2010, 07:30 PM
Maybe because they are..........or sure as hell sounds like.........If it walks like a duck a quacks like a duck and flays like a duck it must then be a duck.............no?.........and more than once, so that is not by accident.
Gypsybiker45
22nd July 2010, 07:32 PM
Austrians do not refer to themselves in that manner.
They did, and do. Today, usually quietly, since calling oneself "Deutsch" could be construed to be "supporting anti-constitutional ideas."
They did as a nation-state until the "Allies" of WW I prohibited it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Austria
Republik Deutschösterreich or Deutsch-Österreich
"The provisional national assembly drafted provisional constitution that stated that "German Austria is a democratic republic" (Article 1) and "German Austria is a component of the German Republic" (Article 2). Later plebiscites in the provinces of Tyrol and Salzburg yielded majorities of 98 and 99% in favor of a unification with Germany. On November 22, the national assembly officially laid claim to all ethnic German areas of Cisleithania. However, the Allies of World War I opposed such a move."
The Country known as Germany did not exist until 1871 ,before that it was a non unified collection of German speaking states and cities.
And still called "Deutsch-land" by the Germans who lived there. Austria's (Die Ostmark auf Deutsch) non-inclusion was due to political intrigue. Bavaria could have as easily been excluded, but no one questions it's "Germanness."
Why do you want to insist that Austria is not German?
Austria was the leading power of the German speaking states prior to that time...
Please don't patronize me, I'm well aware of history.
Not patronizing,just stating historical fact, I lived in Germany for three years. I knew and met numerous Austrians ,and I never heard them claim German citizenship, but did acknowledge the relationship. If your looking to say that all the Germanic peoples claim "Germaness" why stop with Austria? what about the Scandinavians, the English and the Dutch?
Gypsybiker45
22nd July 2010, 07:34 PM
Maybe because they are..........or sure as hell sounds like.........If it walks like a duck a quacks like a duck and flays like a duck it must then be a duck.............no?.........and more than once, so that is not by accident.
Keep digging, one day, perhaps youll figure out one doesnt have to pick a side and can in fact NOT support either side.
Book
22nd July 2010, 07:40 PM
Keep digging, one day, perhaps youll figure out one doesnt have to pick a side and can in fact NOT support either side.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=3168;type=avatar
What's your avatar represent Gypsy?
:oo-->
Gypsybiker45
22nd July 2010, 07:42 PM
Keep digging, one day, perhaps youll figure out one doesnt have to pick a side and can in fact NOT support either side.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=3168;type=avatar
What's your avatar represent Gypsy?
:oo-->
Thats the flag of the Haudensaunee. and what does it have to do with this topic?
goldmonkey
22nd July 2010, 08:01 PM
Keep digging, one day, perhaps youll figure out one doesnt have to pick a side and can in fact NOT support either side.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=3168;type=avatar
What's your avatar represent Gypsy?
:oo-->
Thats the flag of the Haudensaunee. and what does it have to do with this topic?
http://gold-silver.us/forum/the-lounge/thought-provoking-photos/msg84344/#msg84344
JohnQPublic
22nd July 2010, 08:03 PM
Herr Hitler who was not even a German.
Then what was he?
Hitler may have been Germanic, but he wasnt a German Citizen at birth. He was born and raised in the Austro-Hungarian Empire. FWIW Napoleon was a Corsican by birth, more Italian than French
And accepted by many jews of his time as the messiah.
UncaScrooge
22nd July 2010, 08:05 PM
Keep digging, one day, perhaps youll figure out one doesnt have to pick a side and can in fact NOT support either side.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=3168;type=avatar
What's your avatar represent Gypsy?
:oo-->
Thats the flag of the Haudensaunee. and what does it have to do with this topic?
I just CAN'T Resist!!! ;D
The flag has EVERYTHING to do with "this topic"!!!!
Obviously, the Iroquois are the "lost tribe" of Israel... EVERYONE knows that! LOL!!!
P.S. For the record, I liked Benjamin Disraeli and Bernard Baruch... LOL!
philo beddoe
22nd July 2010, 08:09 PM
Keep digging, one day, perhaps youll figure out one doesnt have to pick a side and can in fact NOT support either side.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=3168;type=avatar
What's your avatar represent Gypsy?
:oo-->
Thats the flag of the Haudensaunee. and what does it have to do with this topic?
http://gold-silver.us/forum/the-lounge/thought-provoking-photos/msg84344/#msg84344
well that's definitely thought provoking
Book
22nd July 2010, 08:48 PM
Keep digging, one day, perhaps youll figure out one doesnt have to pick a side and can in fact NOT support either side.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=3168;type=avatar
What's your avatar represent Gypsy?
:oo-->
Thats the flag of the Haudensaunee. and what does it have to do with this topic?
You lecture us "not to pick sides" while you yourself proudly wave your flag in your avatar...Ha Ha.
:oo-->
Gypsybiker45
23rd July 2010, 03:44 AM
Keep digging, one day, perhaps youll figure out one doesnt have to pick a side and can in fact NOT support either side.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=3168;type=avatar
What's your avatar represent Gypsy?
:oo-->
Thats the flag of the Haudensaunee. and what does it have to do with this topic?
You lecture us "not to pick sides" while you yourself proudly wave your flag in your avatar...Ha Ha.
:oo-->
Please show me where I lectured you to not pick a side?. Got anything to add to the topic, Book? or are you content being a troll?
Gypsybiker45
23rd July 2010, 03:48 AM
Keep digging, one day, perhaps youll figure out one doesnt have to pick a side and can in fact NOT support either side.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=3168;type=avatar
What's your avatar represent Gypsy?
:oo-->
Thats the flag of the Haudensaunee. and what does it have to do with this topic?
I just CAN'T Resist!!! ;D
The flag has EVERYTHING to do with "this topic"!!!!
Obviously, the Iroquois are the "lost tribe" of Israel... EVERYONE knows that! LOL!!!
P.S. For the record, I liked Benjamin Disraeli and Bernard Baruch... LOL!
Not hardly
Tumbleweed
23rd July 2010, 05:19 AM
Joseph and Mary were jews but Jesus was not. He was god. The good jews became christians. The children of the devil remained jews, denied he was god and had him beaten to death.
Nobody has mentioned Jesus Christ?
JDRock
23rd July 2010, 08:19 AM
ponce, lay off the tequila nad stop spamming this thread keep it to what i started, NAME some jews who have told the truth and benefitted the world as opposed to destroying it.....how about the guy that smuggled the protocols out of russia??
gypsy, you REALLY have got some serious ?s to answer....this board DESERVES an explanation.
Hatha Sunahara
23rd July 2010, 11:25 AM
I nominate Israel Shahak author of Jewish History, Jewish religion, the Weight of 3000 Years.
Hatha
silver solution
23rd July 2010, 03:55 PM
Nobody has mentioned Jesus Christ?
Jesus Christ was a Israelite ( and/or Hebrew) and a Levite
I don't think that makes him a jew
Israelite and Levite are both much earlier terms, from a different time. The Kingdom of Israel, was destroyed by the Assyrians. The Kingdom of Judah,Which had appeared after the death of King Solomon(yup that one!) was the result of a civil war. Judah, survived mostly since the Assyrians didnt want to stretch thin, as Egypt was a direct threat. After the Assyrians were replaced by Babylon,Judah fell to the Babylonian Empire.this is the point where much of the Judean elite were deported to Babylon. When Persia conquered Babylon, Judah was in Persian hands, Where Cyrus allowed many to return to their homeland , Then came Alexander, and the Greeks , then Egypt , then finally, the Romans came, which Jesus was born under the rule of Herod I. So he was technically a Judean by birth. raised as a Jew religiously, and arguably a partial Roman citizen by the "Latin Right".
Israel was not destroyed. The (multitude) Commonwealth of nations that are Israel are all over the Globe. You more than likely live in one of them.
48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude (Commonwealth) of nations.
goldmonkey
23rd July 2010, 06:02 PM
Nathaniel Kapner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=176RASLgzIQ
Gypsybiker45
23rd July 2010, 06:08 PM
ponce, lay off the tequila nad stop spamming this thread keep it to what i started, NAME some jews who have told the truth and benefitted the world as opposed to destroying it.....how about the guy that smuggled the protocols out of russia??
gypsy, you REALLY have got some serious ?s to answer....this board DESERVES an explanation.
please ask in detail which questions youd like answered. the flag is pretty self explanatory. its the flag of the Haudensaunee. The Six Nations Confederacy. Iroqouis to most of you. because the Tribal Police may or may not be involved with Homeland Security has nothing to do with me, as ALL law enforcement are involved with the Homeland Security.now ask
EE_
23rd July 2010, 07:21 PM
Someone please ask!
Phoenix
23rd July 2010, 07:45 PM
Come on, guys, trying to nail GB because of his Indian Nation flag is silly. Archaeologists once found a Swastika in an ancient Synagogue. Freemasons use symbolism of Christ. The allegation "connection" is tenuous at best.
Phoenix
23rd July 2010, 07:45 PM
Come on, guys, trying to nail GB because of his Indian Nation flag is silly. Archaeologists once found a Swastika in an ancient Synagogue. Freemasons use symbolism of Christ. The alleged "connection" is tenuous at best.
Phoenix
23rd July 2010, 07:47 PM
Charlie Chaplin and I have only the bowler hat in common.
http://postalheritage.org.uk/exhibitions/onlineexhibitions/icons-of-england/images/Bowler-hat.jpg
boogietillyapuke
23rd July 2010, 08:44 PM
Back on topic..............
Lenny Bruce
The Three Stooges
Groucho Marx
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JDRock
24th July 2010, 09:01 AM
.i dunno about honorable, but the 3 stooges ( with curly) were " coietny" funny.
PatColo
24th July 2010, 10:26 PM
Anyone say Henry Makow (http://www.henrymakow.com/) yet?
I allow that he may be a shill; there are many Jews who appear to "do good", spill the beans, go after the bad guys etc- who then turn out to be shills. But the articles at Makow's site are always interesting, one of my daily news dives.
"Good Jews" who are shills (when pressed they uphold key Big Lies like 911, or seek to protect Izzy/Zionism within the context of masquerading as a Truther):
Peter Schiff on 911 conspiracy theories:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf77yqkjk_M
Jon Gold - zio-shill "911 Truther" - tries to maintain the core myth that scary moozlems did 911:
http://thepopulist.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fingernq8.jpg
Book
24th July 2010, 11:32 PM
Anyone say Henry Makow yet?
Makow keeps blaming the evil Loominutti and insists that "good jews" are victims like us goyim. Total disinfo agent. His older Feminism info remains world-class (best there is) but he removed it from his website forcing people to buy these old posts in the form of a for-sale book. He also started running cheesy Spam advertisements a year ago on his website. I mean really cheesy..lol.
:D
Norman Finkelstein is way more righteous and honorable.
PatColo
25th July 2010, 03:35 AM
Anyone say Henry Makow yet?
Makow keeps blaming the evil Loominutti and insists that "good jews" are victims like us goyim. Total disinfo agent. His older Feminism info remains world-class (best there is) but he removed it from his website forcing people to buy these old posts in the form of a for-sale book. He also started running cheesy Spam advertisements a year ago on his website. I mean really cheesy..lol.
:D
Norman Finkelstein is way more righteous and honorable.
I listened to a radio interview with Makow (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/radio-interview-wgordon-duff-henry-makow-mp3/) tonight. Most of what he said rang true with my perceptions, but at one point he made passing reference to a couple of relatives he'd lost in the Holocaust [Controversy] (http://www.crusader.net/texts/bt/bt08.html). So his propping up the holohoax did flash a red light. But he also vouched for the protocols as an authentic zio/rothschild/NWO blueprint. Someone should nail Makow down on his beliefs re the holohoax. Finkelstein too for that matter, another one who doesn't publicly question the official narrative, only how it's been exploited. I saw an article criticizing Finkelstein as a limited hangout shill, I'd have to go find it again. In a quick search I find this blog critical of Finkelstein: Norman Finkelstein Speaks at CSU-Northridge (http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/806)
I tend to agree with Makow (& Icke) that most Jews are brainwashed/manipulated/duped by the Zionists, see: The Zionist Elephant in the Room (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-zionist-elephant-in-the-room/msg2940/#msg2940).
In the left pane of Makow's site (http://www.henrymakow.com/), there are some permalinks to older feminism articles- but if his numerous others were disappeared, I didn't know that. You sure they're not buried in the archives somewhere?
PatColo
25th July 2010, 03:52 AM
Here's the article I saw deconstructing Chomsky & Finkelstein,
Friday, May 21, 2010
The Wicked Eunuch: Chomsky on 9/11 (http://ww3zionism.blogspot.com/2010/05/wicked.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM
Noam Chomsky has bridled at the idea that 9/11 could have been to any significant degree the result of a state-level conspiracy, expressing his irritation at a recent presentation where he held forth for several minutes on the topic. Chomsky is a figure worthy in certain respects of the esteem accorded him, but his views on 9/11 reflect a common and dangerous mis-appraisal of the techniques of contemporary statecraft and, more shockingly (coming from him), of the long-worsening psychosis afflicting and increasingly characterizing the US military/industrial complex. The point made by Chomsky during his talk that 9/11 was a boon for authoritarian governments the world over is well-taken (if hardly original), yet beyond this his opinions regarding the attacks range from foolish to insidious. A good analysis of Chomsky's ludicrous dissimulating drivle can be read here.
P.S. Personally, I think both Chomsky and his fellow zionist apologist Norman Finkelstein are having a hard time playing truth and justice advocates while dissimulating for the morally indefensible ideology of zionism: jewish supremacism, jewish exceptionalism, jewish apartheid. Chomsky knows jews were largely responsible for 9/11.
Chomsky
People are perplexed that such a brilliant man could make such nonsensical, bizzare statements regarding the JFK assassination and 9-11. They scratch their heads and suggest all kinds of reasons, except the possibility that such a brilliant man knows that jews were heavily involved in both events and he’s simply covering for his co-religionists, i.e., more accurately, his jewish tribe. In order to do that, such brilliant zionist altuists must resort to incoherent, nonsensical logic. Liars say the funniest things, e.g., the dog ate my homework.
In Chomsky’s “Fateful Triangle†he courageously and honestly described the butchery in Lebenon that his jewish tribe was responsible for, as well as its bigoted treatment of Palestinians in Israel. I greatly admired him for that, so much so that I bought several of his books. But I believe that was Chomsky’s limit of reporting on and exposing the criminal nature his his tribe and that since then he’s repentant and reining himself in, behaving himself, and being a loyal tribal member. He doesn’t want to be a pariah any more.
Both zionist altruist Chomsky and Finkelstein exemplify all zionist altruits in minimalizing jewish influence in America. How do such brilliant guys fail to see the overwhelming extent of jewish influence in American affairs? They’re jews; they know better than most who’s a jew and who’s not.
People assume that Chomsky and Finkelstein aren’t zionists. But neither have ever denounced zionism [jewish supremacism, jewish exceptionalism, jewish apartheid] as the morally bankrupt ideology that it is. Finkelstein avoids discussing the matter in public, despite having written a dissertation on the topic. Did he denounce it in is disseration? And responding to questioning about zionism, he says that “his frieng†Chomsky has been a zionist since he was six years old.
Even though neither of these zionist altruists like to talk about zionism publicly, I encourage people to ask them about it anyway. Ask them about it; ask them whether they are zoinists themselves; ask them how they defend it.
Finkelstein’s Schtick
Number one hit: When Finkelstein goes on his rockstar appearances at universities across the country to discuss the Israel Palestinian conflict, his number one hit is to brazenly admit that what’s happening to the Palestinians is genocide, just like what happened to the native American Indians. The naïve gentile audience oohs and ahs over the courage of the zionist peace rockstar Finky in admitting this ugly truth regarding what his fellow tribesmen are doing to the Palestinians.
Well this admission is certainly impressive but so much if you’ve heard this comparison used as a defense of the genociding the Palestinians. It’s used by mainstream jews as an argument of last resort to justify it. The argument is that Europeans genocided the native American Indians so jews are no worse than the Europeans who’ve done it before…and it’s “anti-Semitic†if you have a problem with jews doing it now.
But this is now and that was then. And aren’t we supposed to be evolving? Also, I’m not so sure that the genocide of the native American Indians was as premeditated and mehodical as is the genociding of the Palestinians that’s occrring now,… which a large segment of mainstream jews are cognizant of…and ignoring or attempting to justify.
Another hit of Finkelstein’s is to equate Israel to America. After going through a litany of US crimes against humanity, Finky says it’s preposterous to think about dismantling a great country such as America, or Israel (wink, wink), for not living up to their ideals.
Bus does Israel have lofty ideals to live up to? Is there some constitution stipulating them? Finky doesn’t like to talk about zionism, which is Israel’s primary rationale for existence. He avoids any discussion of it. He doesn’t want navie gentiles to know what it is: jewish supremacism, jewish exceptionalism, jewish apartheid.
And if America were to live up to its ideals, like every man is created equal, and which are stipulated in its constitution, wouldn’t one of the first things it would do is to stop supporting and popping up zionism? I think so.
There Is No Good Zionism
Finkelstein and most mainstream jews have abandoned any notion of expecting complete justice for the Palestinians because of their accommodation to zionism, realizing that you can’t have justice and zionism too. But they must have their zionism. So they’ve given up pursuing the ideal of true justice.
For humanity to get well from zionism, though love measures are needed that will be difficult even for good-guy, altruist, bleeding heart liberal zionists. Their zionism will have to be denied them. There’s no way around it. It’s nice that zionist altruists like Finkelstein sympathize with the obvious victims of zionism, the Palestinians, leaving out how it’s dehumanizing every human being on this planet. And it’s good that they speak out about it, and people should hear that. But people shouldn’t be looking to them for answers because their answers accommodate zionism. Sorry, their zionism must be denied them, for their sake as well as for everyone else’s. In denying them their zionism, they’ll be saved from embarrassing themselves (or going crazy) with the twisted, nonsensical logic required to dissimulate and apologize for it. Chomsky and Finkelstein will just have to find new gigs.
What is particularly revolting and galling about bleeding heart liberal zionists like Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein –and Jennifer Lownenstein from my state of Wisconsin, is that they see and acknowledge the crmes of zionism yet they never see the illogic of zionism. Time after time Finkelstein and Lowenstein (more Jenny than Finky) will visit and cry with the obvious victims of zionism, yet despite seeing the crimes of zionism up close and personal –time after time- they still don’t see the ill-logic of zionism. And they will never –ever- denounce zionism. They are incapable of seeing the ill-logic of it. They are ill themselves.
The best zionist altruists are sick. Their zionism has to be denied them so they can be well (so people like Jenny don't have to cry so much), so humanity can be well.
Since 9-11, I don’t believe any American can claim innocence any longer about what we do in the world, especially what we’re doing in the Middle East now. It is obvious. Those that are ignorant of the truth are willfully ignorant and don’t care. This is doubly true of jews because they are closer to the truth than ordinary Amrericans.
There is no good zionism. It can not be had nicely. Wrapping it in a two-state bandaid in Palestine won't fix it. It must be erradicated entirely.
PatColo
25th July 2010, 04:23 AM
Gilad Atzmon (http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/)
dead precedent
25th July 2010, 10:40 AM
Dave Mustaine.
Book
25th July 2010, 10:47 AM
In the left pane of Makow's site (http://www.henrymakow.com/), there are some permalinks to older feminism articles- but if his numerous others were disappeared, I didn't know that. You sure they're not buried in the archives somewhere?
Nope. He deleted all his old world-class Feminism stuff so a year ago I asked him how I can find those missing articles and he wrote back:
BUY MY NEW BOOK (http://www.amazon.com/Cruel-Hoax-Feminism-World-Order/dp/096877251X)
http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/jan2009/stereotype-jew.gif
:D
PatColo
25th July 2010, 11:28 AM
In the left pane of Makow's site (http://www.henrymakow.com/), there are some permalinks to older feminism articles- but if his numerous others were disappeared, I didn't know that. You sure they're not buried in the archives somewhere?
Nope. He deleted all his old world-class Feminism stuff so a year ago I asked him how I can find those missing articles and he wrote back:
BUY MY NEW BOOK (http://www.amazon.com/Cruel-Hoax-Feminism-World-Order/dp/096877251X)
You're sure he didn't say, BUY MY NEW BOOK, BOOK. (http://www.amazon.com/Cruel-Hoax-Feminism-World-Order/dp/096877251X) :ROFL:
Even you'll admit though, that's not a crime, if his primary means of support is "author"... we've just grown spoiled in this internet info age that everything should be free.
I would like to see him go on record with his views on holocaust skepticism (http://www.crusader.net/texts/bt/bt08.html). Here are a couple of Makow articles, filled with facts & insight, but tacitly propping up the official holohoax narrative:
Are Jews Being Set Up for Another Holocaust? (http://www.savethemales.ca/are_jews_being_set_up_for_anot.html) February 27, 2008
Again, Zionists Set Up Jews for Holocaust (http://www.henrymakow.com/again_zionists_are_setting_jew.html) May 31, 2010
What do you make of the criticisms of Finkelstein & Chomsky as "altruistic zionists"?
PatColo
25th July 2010, 11:35 AM
I don't know anything about Israeli Professor Shlomo Sand, haven't read his 2010 book, but it's made waves as a scholarly deconstruction of "dajooz as chosen people yada yada",
Amazon: The Invention of the Jewish People (http://www.amazon.com/Invention-Jewish-People-Shlomo-Sand/dp/1844676234)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41XvY3Y6biL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg
Book
25th July 2010, 11:58 AM
What do you make of the criticisms of Finkelstein & Chomsky as "altruistic zionists"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nSKsdK57b8
I don't want to give you a hard time PatColo but you might want to refresh your knowledge about Norman Finkelstein. Watch this short video. Surrounded by his fellow jews he righteously slaps this girl silly. For speaking Truth he lost his university teaching job and is now banned from even entering Israel. He paid the ultimate price for Truth.
Finkelstein is my favorite jew. Watch some of the other videos at Youtube. The guy is as real as it gets. Makow and Chomsky are unfit to shine Finkelstein's shoes.
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PatColo
25th July 2010, 12:34 PM
I saw that Finkelstein clip before. Finky slaps her down alright, but my first assumption would be that the young Jewess was a successfully mind-kontrolled specimen of the zio-hate brainwashing machine, as depicted in the video "Defamation" (http://www.google.com/search?q=defamation+yoav+shamir).
I also loved how Finky ripped Dershowitz a new one on Democracy Now (http://www.google.com/search?q=democracy+now+finkelstein+dershowitz). And his performance against zio-tool Wolf Blitzer (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbs=vid%3A1&q=norman+finkelstein+blitzer).
There are many isolated Finkelstein, Chomsky and other "altruistic zionist" clips which make them refreshing & easy for the critic of zionism to label them as HEROES.
But why do Finkelstein, Chomsky, Makow et al tacitly prop up the official holohoax narrative, the "zio-myth of the 20th century"? Finkelstein slaps around those who emotion-anchor and/or exploit the official holohoax narrative. He doesn't question the veracity of the 6-Million, or the "gas chambers", or the alleged nazi "official policy of extermination of all Jews". By this measure, Finkelstein (& Co) are limited hangout tools.
Finkelstein is also alleged to be a 911 Truth denier (http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/806#comment-8368) (I'd have to do more digging to find hard evidence of Finky's 911 Truth view).
Silver Rocket Bitches!
25th July 2010, 07:44 PM
Here's what Henry thinks of you if you deny the holocaust.
Hardly a week goes by without attempts by Internet die-hards to debunk the Jewish holocaust as a "holohoax."
I understand the motivations of holocaust minimizers but they discredit themselves as unfeeling ignoramuses; and advance the Zionist-NWO agenda, which is to provoke a gratuitous conflict between holocaust-minimizers in Islam and the Zionist West.
Three million non-Jewish Poles were killed by the Nazis. No one questions this. The Jews were below Poles in the scale of "untermenschen" (subhumans.) (Poles received about 650 calories per day in rations compared to 450 for Jews.)
Do the die-hards expect us to believe the Nazis would exterminate Poles and somehow spare Jews?
In a speech August 22,1939 at his Obersaltzberg HQ, Hitler said his aim is to "kill without pity or mercy all men, women and children of Polish descent or language. Only in this way can we obtain the living space we need...: (Gumkowski, "Poland Under Nazi Occupation" p.59)
In "Forgotten Survivors: Polish Christians Remember the German Occupation" (2004), Richard Lukas writes:
"The Germans killed their Polish victims in a variety of ways--shooting, gassing, hanging, torture, hard labor, lethal injections, beatings and starvation. The first victims of the gas chambers at Auschwitz were Poles and Russian POWs. The Nazi determination to obliterate the Polish intelligentsia resulted in wiping out 45% of Polish physicians and dentists, 40% of professors, 57% of attorneys, 30% of technicians, and a majority of leading journalists." (5)
From the first days of occupation, the Nazis began a merciless and systematic campaign for the biological destruction of the Poles. Polish POW's were slaughtered; statues and cultural sites razed and 200,000 Polish children with Aryan characteristics sent to Germany for "Germanization."
LARGER CONTEXT
The Jewish holocaust took place in the context of "Generalplan Ost" ("General Plan, East") the planned genocide of over 50 million Slavs, 75 % of the population of Nazi-occupied Poland, Ukraine and Russia. The Nazis intended to "Germanize" a few of the remaining 25%, and keep the rest as agricultural serfs who wouldn't even learn to read.
The Nazis managed to kill 20 million Russians including 7 million civilians by a variety of means. Three million Russian POWs died from bullets, deliberate typhus infection and starvation.
I deplore the persecution of those who question the details of the Jewish holocaust. Nothing casts more doubt than attempts to control thought and speech. You won't go to jail for questioning Christ's crucifixion, a sign of the status organized Jewry aspires to.
In my view, the die-hard's real objection is to the Zionist political exploitation of the holocaust, i.e. the immunity from criticism and prestige it gives them. They would be wiser to address this issue directly rather than pretend the Jewish holocaust didn't take place.
They could neutralize its propaganda value by drawing attention to the pattern of Nazi-elite Jew collaboration (Judenrat, Jewish police, Zionist) and by talking about the Jewish role in Stalinist mass-murder. (See Below: "Stalin's Jews.") Essentially the Nazis and Communists were two branches of the same satanic cult that controls the world today. They were both conceived for the purpose of advancing the bankers' "New World Order" through war. Zionism is another branch.
MORE CONTEXT
The treatment of Jews in Nazi-occupied Europe depended on the changing Nazi relationship to host nations and allies. For example, the 5,000 Danish Jews were mostly unscathed because the Nazis wanted good relations with the Nordic Danes, and access to their farm produce. Unlike the Poles, the Danes were very protective of their Jews.
Nazi persecution was held in check as long as Hitler desired peace with England, or good relations with Russia. However the invasion of Russia June 22, 1941 signaled the beginning of a genocidal death-struggle. In this war zone, Slavs and Jews who were unfit for slave labor, (i.e. 70-90% of the total) were marked for extermination.
In the Nazi mind, all Jews represented the Bolshevik peril. "German National Socialism and Jewish Bolshevism could not coexist," German soldiers were told. "This is a war of extinction." There is simply no way Jews could escape the fate of Russians in general. By July 1942 the first extermination camps Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka were opened.
FOOD
During the winter of 1940-41, there were food shortages and public grumbling in Germany. The Nazis realized the food was the key to public support. According to historians Deborah Dwork and Jan van Pelt, the Nazis calculated that "tens of millions of Russians would have to die in order to safeguard German meat rations. German food would not go east to the invading army; rather [2.5 million] German soldiers would be fed at the expense of the local population." ("Holocaust: A History" p 265.)
The Nazis "looked to the east to become the breadbasket of New Europe...a true granary [characterized by] low density of settlement...prosperous farms and attractive small towns." They envisaged "the deportation of 41 to 51 million people which included 80-85% of all Poles...It was tacitly understood that they would be killed." (266)
Goring remarked to Italian Foreign Minister Ciano in Dec. 1941: "This year between 20 and 30 million persons will die in Russia of hunger. Perhaps it is well that it should be so, for certain nations must be decimated." (190)
At the same time, the Allies subjected the German civilian population to a murderous bombing campaign. In July 1943 in a Hamburg fire storm, 50,000 people died in "Operation Gomorrah." 800,000 fled the city in the aftermath.
World War Two was a time of unparalleled savagery and ethnic cleansing. I will not attempt a complete inventory here. The Romanians used the cover of war to kill 250,000 Jews at their own initiative. The Croats murdered 350,000 Serbs. The German army lost 4 million men killed and 4 million wounded. The Soviet army lost over 9 million dead and 18 million wounded. Civilian losses were 1.8 million in Germany and 11.5 million in Russia. China lost 20 million civilians.
CONCLUSION
The real holocaust was the war itself. The Jewish holocaust was a part of it. The injustice is focusing on the Jewish experience, which is racism in the name of anti-racism. It implies that only Jewish lives matter.
The challenge is to mourn the Second World War as a collective tragedy for humanity and to recognize that it was perpetrated by the Judeo Masonic central banking cartel which controls the world. It wanted to destroy the enemies of "Jewish bankers," discredit concepts of race and nationalism, trauma-brainwash Jews to establish Israel, defeat the German people once and for all, expand Communism to Eastern Europe, brutalize and demoralize mankind and turn a profit, all at once.
As you can see, ordinary people cannot afford to embrace causes without first discovering the hidden agendas or consequences. Obviously we need to stop arguing about how many Jews died 65 years ago and focus on preventing World War Three and the NWO.
http://www.henrymakow.com/001850.html
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Hear that you unfeeling ignoramuses? Just because Israel gets immunity from criticism and prestige, they shouldn't be held accountable for the event that allowed them to justify their existence...
I still read Makow because his words contain some truth. Doesn't mean I trust him...
silver solution
26th July 2010, 01:19 AM
Anyone say Henry Makow yet?
Makow keeps blaming the evil Loominutti and insists that "good jews" are victims like us goyim. Total disinfo agent. His older Feminism info remains world-class (best there is) but he removed it from his website forcing people to buy these old posts in the form of a for-sale book. He also started running cheesy Spam advertisements a year ago on his website. I mean really cheesy..lol.
:D
Norman Finkelstein is way more righteous and honorable.
I listened to a radio interview with Makow (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/radio-interview-wgordon-duff-henry-makow-mp3/) tonight. Most of what he said rang true with my perceptions, but at one point he made passing reference to a couple of relatives he'd lost in the Holocaust [Controversy] (http://www.crusader.net/texts/bt/bt08.html). So his propping up the holohoax did flash a red light. But he also vouched for the protocols as an authentic zio/rothschild/NWO blueprint. Someone should nail Makow down on his beliefs re the holohoax. Finkelstein too for that matter, another one who doesn't publicly question the official narrative, only how it's been exploited. I saw an article criticizing Finkelstein as a limited hangout shill, I'd have to go find it again. In a quick search I find this blog critical of Finkelstein: Norman Finkelstein Speaks at CSU-Northridge (http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/806)
I tend to agree with Makow (& Icke) that most Jews are brainwashed/manipulated/duped by the Zionists, see: The Zionist Elephant in the Room (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-zionist-elephant-in-the-room/msg2940/#msg2940).
In the left pane of Makow's site (http://www.henrymakow.com/), there are some permalinks to older feminism articles- but if his numerous others were disappeared, I didn't know that. You sure they're not buried in the archives somewhere?
If he said what he thought of the Holocaust he may never be able to travel? Its a risk if you are a somebody and start stating the truth about the Holocaust. Loss of bucks and jail time is not want many people like.
Phoenix
26th July 2010, 02:33 PM
But why do Finkelstein, Chomsky, Makow et al tacitly prop up the official holohoax narrative, the "zio-myth of the 20th century"? Finkelstein slaps around those who emotion-anchor and/or exploit the official holohoax narrative. He doesn't question the veracity of the 6-Million, or the "gas chambers", or the alleged nazi "official policy of extermination of all Jews". By this measure, Finkelstein (& Co) are limited hangout tools.
Norman Finkelstein has done more than any man on Earth to damage the myths of the Six Million™. His family may very well have died; only a loon claims there were no Jews killed by the Germans or hundreds of thousands of "collateral damage." What is at contention are the "gas chambers," and "Der Endlösung" (as systematic extermination). I imagine Finkelstein could be convinced the gas chambers were a hoax, but it would be little comfort for him if his family members were shot or died of typhus instead.
The Holocaustâ„¢ Myth has no power whatsoever apart from the Holocaustâ„¢ Industry, which Finkelstein has nailed repeatedly. Without the Industry, the Six Millionâ„¢ is just another mass murder.
Placing Finkelstein in the category of the leftist lunatic Chomsky or the Birch-like kook Makow is offensive to Truth.
Phoenix
26th July 2010, 02:39 PM
I tend to agree with Makow (& Icke) that most Jews are brainwashed/manipulated/duped by the Zionists
WHY OH WHY do people want to vindicate Jews who know the Talmud, know the face-based stereotypes, and know the history? Always deflecting blame away from Jews and redirecting it to these fantastic "Zionists." Dees' idiotic "Z" over the Star of David, "Jews Against Zionism" implying their Talmudism is "different," and little disinformants here at GS-US pushing an unleaded version.
Makow is a Kosher tool. Icke is a madman.
Phoenix
26th July 2010, 02:41 PM
Here are a couple of Makow articles, filled with facts & insight, but tacitly propping up the official holohoax narrative:
Are Jews Being Set Up for Another Holocaust? (http://www.savethemales.ca/are_jews_being_set_up_for_anot.html) February 27, 2008
Again, Zionists Set Up Jews for Holocaust (http://www.henrymakow.com/again_zionists_are_setting_jew.html) May 31, 2010
There's that "Jews are victims" meme yet again, peddled by Makow.
"He cries out in pain as he strikes you."
The Holocaustâ„¢ was a myth, but that doesn't mean it wasn't justified.
sirgonzo420
26th July 2010, 04:10 PM
I tend to agree with Makow (& Icke) that most Jews are brainwashed/manipulated/duped by the Zionists
WHY OH WHY do people want to vindicate Jews who know the Talmud, know the face-based stereotypes, and know the history? Always deflecting blame away from Jews and redirecting it to these fantastic "Zionists." Dees' idiotic "Z" over the Star of David, "Jews Against Zionism" implying their Talmudism is "different," and little disinformants here at GS-US pushing an unleaded version.
Makow is a Kosher tool. Icke is a madman.
Perhaps some people find an "anti-zionist" message more palatable than an "anti-jewish" message.
Hell, even disinformation can be useful if it gets peoples' heads out of their asses even a little bit.
Shami-Amourae
26th July 2010, 07:51 PM
Ari Shaffir
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/mediaplayer.swf?pageurl=http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80742755/&file=http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/video/494827/80742755.flv&showdigits=total&mediaid=80742755&title=The Amazing Racist - Mexicans&image=http://images.ebaumsworld.com/thumbs/video/494827/80742755.jpg
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80742755/
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/mediaplayer.swf?pageurl=http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/575260/&file=http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/video/426037/575260.flv&showdigits=total&mediaid=575260&title=Amazing Racist in the hood!&image=http://images.ebaumsworld.com/thumbs/video/426037/575260.jpg
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/575260/
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/mediaplayer.swf?pageurl=http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/575267/&file=http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/video/426037/575267.flv&showdigits=total&mediaid=575267&title=Amazing Racist Asian&image=http://images.ebaumsworld.com/thumbs/video/426037/575267.jpg
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/575267/
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/mediaplayer.swf?pageurl=http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/575232/&file=http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/video/426037/575232.flv&showdigits=total&mediaid=575232&title=Amazing Racist Islam&image=http://images.ebaumsworld.com/thumbs/video/426037/575232.jpg
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/575232/
TheNocturnalEgyptian
27th July 2010, 02:42 PM
I tend to agree with Makow (& Icke) that most Jews are brainwashed/manipulated/duped by the Zionists
WHY OH WHY do people want to vindicate Jews who know the Talmud, know the face-based stereotypes, and know the history? Always deflecting blame away from Jews and redirecting it to these fantastic "Zionists." Dees' idiotic "Z" over the Star of David, "Jews Against Zionism" implying their Talmudism is "different," and little disinformants here at GS-US pushing an unleaded version.
Makow is a Kosher tool. Icke is a madman.
Icke IS a madman, but he still speaks very cogently on several topics of varying importance, always emphasizing waking up and taking control of your own mind. He may sound looney when he talks about reptilians or the moon being a space base, but a lot of his work involving the individual cultivation of consciousness is great. Really really great. So the way I see it is, he does no harm with the madman stuff, and then he's doing some positive work by encouraging people to wake up spiritually, and he's not really doing anything negative as far as I can tell. That being the case, he comes out ahead in my opinion.
Phoenix
28th July 2010, 08:49 AM
He may sound looney when he talks about reptilians or the moon being a space base, but a lot of his work involving the individual cultivation of consciousness is great.
No different than this guy...
http://info-wars.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/l-ron-hubbard_3.jpg
Wrote plenty about Galactic Dictator <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu">Xenu</a>, while promoting <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge_to_Total_Freedom">higher consciousness</a>.
The ends do not justify the means.
sirgonzo420
28th July 2010, 08:52 AM
He may sound looney when he talks about reptilians or the moon being a space base, but a lot of his work involving the individual cultivation of consciousness is great.
No different than this guy...
http://info-wars.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/l-ron-hubbard_3.jpg
Wrote plenty about Galactic Dictator <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu">Xenu</a>, while promoting <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge_to_Total_Freedom">higher consciousness</a>.
The ends do not justify the means.
Except at least Icke doesn't charge hundreds of thousands of $$$ to listen to him.
Tumbleweed
28th July 2010, 05:07 PM
A friend of mine who's mother was a Jew gave me one of Iches books to read. When I got to the part where he started to talk about reptilians it lost me. When I told this to my friend he said he knew what he was talking about. He said he's not referring to their physical characteristics but to their mental and emotional make up. A reptile will protect their young but have no compasion or impathy for anything else and they behave like a cold blooded reptile. That made sense to me but I don't recall Icke ever talking about Jews. Maybe that's what keeps him safe. ;)
LuckyStrike
28th July 2010, 07:33 PM
Nobody has mentioned Jesus Christ?
the biggest lie ever told oldman
http://www.jesuswasnotajew.com/page-1/
LuckyStrike
28th July 2010, 07:44 PM
IMO, there are a handful of jews who do good things from time to time, but at the end of the day they all misdirect. The best of them say Peter Schiff, Rothbard, Dr. Laura, Ayn Rand have maybe 95% true and accurate things to say but they will get to a point where they will no reveal the truth about their people. That they have been SOLELY responsible for probably 90% of wars, that israel controls the government 100% etc.
They ALL keep up the biggest lie of all time, that they are the descendants of Jacob. As Yashua said
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
You want me to give you names of "righteous and honorable" members of the synagogue of Satan?
LuckyStrike
28th July 2010, 07:45 PM
IMO, there are a handful of jews who do good things from time to time, but at the end of the day they all misdirect. The best of them say Peter Schiff, Rothbard, Dr. Laura, Ayn Rand have maybe 95% true and accurate things to say but they will get to a point where they will no reveal the truth about their people. That they have been SOLELY responsible for probably 90% of wars, that israel controls the government 100% etc.
They ALL keep up the biggest lie of all time, that they are the descendants of Jacob. As Yashua said
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
You want me to give you names of "righteous and honorable" members of the synagogue of Satan?
Awoke
29th July 2010, 08:46 AM
I find it curious that a thread entitled "Righteous and Honorable jews" gets sticked, when there is a plethora of contrary threads that are not, even though those contrary threads are packed-full of well researched facts and historical events....
JDRock
29th July 2010, 11:27 AM
Earnest Zundel
LuckyStrike
29th July 2010, 12:01 PM
Earnest Zundel
There are allegations although I've yet to see hard proof.
StackerKen
29th July 2010, 01:44 PM
IMO, there are a handful of jews who do good things from time to time, but at the end of the day they all misdirect. The best of them say Peter Schiff, Rothbard, Dr. Laura, Ayn Rand have maybe 95% true and accurate things to say but they will get to a point where they will no reveal the truth about their people. That they have been SOLELY responsible for probably 90% of wars, that israel controls the government 100% etc.
They ALL keep up the biggest lie of all time, that they are the descendants of Jacob. As Yashua said
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
You want me to give you names of "righteous and honorable" members of the synagogue of Satan?
I noticed some thing in your post I wanted to point out..
I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
They that are of the synagogue of Satan. are NOT Jews
What do you make of this passage Nordic?
"He came to his own, and his own received him not." (John 1:11)
Who are his own that received him not?
StackerKen
29th July 2010, 01:49 PM
So I think that Ponce has it right when he says don't call them Jews
The ones you guys are so angry about are Not Jews
The ones that rule this country and the world are the synagogue of Satan
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
StackerKen
29th July 2010, 01:59 PM
I find it curious that a thread entitled "Righteous and Honorable jews" gets sticked, when there is a plethora of contrary threads that are not, even though those contrary threads are packed-full of well researched facts and historical events....
Yeah Mods
Why did this get a sticky?
LuckyStrike
29th July 2010, 08:51 PM
What do you make of this passage Nordic?
"He came to his own, and his own received him not." (John 1:11)
Who are his own that received him not?
The Adamic race, his people the descendants of Jacob.
Joh 4:44 For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own country.
I think it is important that we use like terms. I call the descendants of jacob Israelites and based on the evidence I have seen I have come to the conclusion that these descendants are known today as the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic and Caucasian peoples. This is the group that fulfills the prophecies of the Old Testament.
I know we have discussed this at length before but I'm assuming that you believe that jews today i.e Ben Bernanke, Alan Greenspan, Ariel Sharon, Bill Kristol, Rahm Emmanuel etc. are the literal descendants of Jacob correct?
I should also note that I am about to go on vacation with no internet access so it could possibly be a week or more before I can respond. Take care in the mean time.
StackerKen
29th July 2010, 09:32 PM
What do you make of this passage Nordic?
"He came to his own, and his own received him not." (John 1:11)
Who are his own that received him not?
The Adamic race, his people the descendants of Jacob.
Joh 4:44 For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own country.
I think it is important that we use like terms. I call the descendants of jacob Israelites and based on the evidence I have seen I have come to the conclusion that these descendants are known today as the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic and Caucasian peoples. This is the group that fulfills the prophecies of the Old Testament.
I know we have discussed this at length before but I'm assuming that you believe that jews today i.e Ben Bernanke, Alan Greenspan, Ariel Sharon, Bill Kristol, Rahm Emmanuel etc. are the literal descendants of Jacob correct?
I should also note that I am about to go on vacation with no internet access so it could possibly be a week or more before I can respond. Take care in the mean time.
Fair enough Nordic.
I really have no way of knowing who the (physical) descendent's of Jacob are.
Have a Good Vacation Brother.
JohnQPublic
29th July 2010, 10:38 PM
I find it curious that a thread entitled "Righteous and Honorable jews" gets sticked, when there is a plethora of contrary threads that are not, even though those contrary threads are packed-full of well researched facts and historical events....
Bingo. Just being a little bit fair. There are very few contrary contrary threads.
Plus the OP asked. ;)
I agreed because there is so many anti-jewish threads that I felt a little balance was needed.
PatColo
29th July 2010, 11:06 PM
almost posted a new thread on this, thought nah, anyways right now (10 PM PST) on Rense radio:
Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss
Jews Against Zionism
NKUSA.org
don't know much about him, be curious to listen in.
http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm
steyr_m
2nd August 2010, 01:17 AM
Nobody has mentioned Jesus Christ?
Jesus Christ was a Israelite ( and/or Hebrew) and a Levite
I don't think that makes him a jew
I've heard this before, but.... I read KJV of the Bible and get this opening of Matthew. Am I missing something?
1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the
son of Abraham.
1:2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas
and his brethren; 1:3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and
Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; 1:4 And Aram begat Aminadab;
and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; 1:5 And Salmon
begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat
Jesse; 1:6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat
Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; 1:7 And Solomon begat
Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; 1:8 And Asa begat
Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; 1:9 And
Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;
1:10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon
begat Josias; 1:11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about
the time they were carried away to Babylon: 1:12 And after they were
brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat
Zorobabel; 1:13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim;
and Eliakim begat Azor; 1:14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat
Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; 1:15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and
Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; 1:16 And Jacob begat
Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called
Christ.
steyr_m
2nd August 2010, 01:25 AM
The term "Jew" was invented for the Khazars who practiced Talmudism, due to the mistaken belief they were the same people of the Bible. The King James translators did not know the truth, and mistakenly inserted "Jew" when Judean was actually correct, since the two are different peoples. This error has continued to today.
Can you reference this? What does the original Greek translation say?
StackerKen
2nd August 2010, 10:41 AM
Nobody has mentioned Jesus Christ?
Jesus Christ was a Israelite ( and/or Hebrew) and a Levite
I don't think that makes him a jew
I've heard this before, but.... I read KJV of the Bible and get this opening of Matthew. Am I missing something?
1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the
son of Abraham.
1:2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas
and his brethren; 1:3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and
Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; 1:4 And Aram begat Aminadab;
and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; 1:5 And Salmon
begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat
Jesse; 1:6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat
Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; 1:7 And Solomon begat
Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; 1:8 And Asa begat
Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; 1:9 And
Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;
1:10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon
begat Josias; 1:11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about
the time they were carried away to Babylon: 1:12 And after they were
brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat
Zorobabel; 1:13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim;
and Eliakim begat Azor; 1:14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat
Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; 1:15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and
Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; 1:16 And Jacob begat
Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called
Christ.
Really Good point!
Jesus was a direct descendant of Jacob.
I pretty sure that makes him a Jew.
Thanks for pointing that out steyr
All you "Jew Haters" better be careful. ;)
Awoke
3rd August 2010, 05:24 AM
Umm, guys, Jesus was concieved by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, who is the immaculate conception.
There is none of David's blood in Christ.
StackerKen
3rd August 2010, 09:34 AM
Umm, guys, Jesus was concieved by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, who is the immaculate conception.
There is none of David's blood in Christ.
True Awoke. But Matthew gives that Genealogy to show that Jesus was a true Heir to David's throne.
"Call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David; and he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end" (Luke 1:30-33).
Luke 1:30-33 (King James Version)
30And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Those verses sound to me like Jesus was the king of the Jews
Or at least the King of the Line of Jacob
Awoke
3rd August 2010, 10:56 AM
Although he may be the King of jews, as the sadducees and pharisees assert, his father is the Heavenly Father, and his mother is the Blessed virgin.
He bears no blood relation to David, nor the house of jacob, even though he was given dominion over that house.
EDIT to add: I am not a professional theologian, or even all that studious. I'm just saying that in order for anyone to prove that Christ was or was not "jewish" is to trace his mothers bloodline, whom was born to St. Anne.
Wiki says she was jewish, but wiki is suspect. She was from Galilee, and thus Galilean, but I have not researched this topic at all just yet.
StackerKen
3rd August 2010, 11:27 AM
Awoke; I am far from a theologian or a teacher...so most of what I say here should be checked out for ones self.
But I don't think that should stop us from discussing ideas.
I don't think it's about Blood (DNA)
And For Us,
Its about the Spirit and about adoption and being grafted in :)
Paul says in Romans we are children of God, heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ.
“The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together.” (Romans 8:16-17)
Im pretty sure that All True believers in Christ are in "The house of Israel"
Romans 11:26 (New International Version)
26And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:
"The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
.................................................. ..............
I'm not saying all the people that are living in the modern day country of Israel will be saved.
Thats not what it is about.
All Believers in Christ (including the ones that live in Israel) will be saved.
This is just how I am seeing it at the moment and I'm sharing as I investigate.
StackerKen
3rd August 2010, 11:33 AM
Also
I think Matthew 1 is pretty clear
Matthew 1:1 (New King James Version)
The Genealogy of Jesus Christ
1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham:
.................................................. .......................................
sirgonzo420
3rd August 2010, 11:40 AM
Although he may be the King of jews, as the sadducees and pharisees assert, his father is the Heavenly Father, and his mother is the Blessed virgin.
He bears no blood relation to David, nor the house of jacob, even though he was given dominion over that house.
EDIT to add: I am not a professional theologian, or even all that studious. I'm just saying that in order for anyone to prove that Christ was or was not "jewish" is to trace his mothers bloodline, whom was born to St. Anne.
Wiki says she was jewish, but wiki is suspect. She was from Galilee, and thus Galilean, but I have not researched this topic at all just yet.
He was circumcised...
Awoke
4th August 2010, 07:05 AM
He was circumcised...
So am I. What's your point?
sirgonzo420
4th August 2010, 07:14 AM
He was circumcised...
So am I. What's your point?
Well, when Jesus was born circumcision was a wholly jewish enterprise.
Now the AMA thinks it's good for all male babies, but in Christ's time, only a follower of jewish law would be circumcised.
Awoke
4th August 2010, 08:36 AM
Well, when Jesus was born circumcision was a wholly jewish enterprise.
What makes you think that circumcision is "wholly a jewish" practice?
Christ came from the Father, and the scriptures dictate the covenant to be signified with circumcision. The fact that Christ was circumcised it not assurance that he is "a jew" any more than the fact that I am circumcised would indicate that I am a jew.
He serves the Father, and acts accordingly, and fulfills all expectations from the Father. Circumcision is one of those expectations. So did anyone that held faith in the Old Testament scriptures, regardless of their ethnicity.
You never once, however, saw him praise the talmud or kabbalistic teachings, did you?
I find it funny how they jews look at orthodox jewry as a heretical schism, because they do not follow the talmud or kabbalist rites, and instead they stick to the laws that God gave them without worshipping the satanic babble of the rabbis.
StackerKen
4th August 2010, 11:22 AM
420 I think Awoke is correct. I think circumcision was a wholly jewish enterprise in those days...
However there is this
Genesis 17:12
For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner--those who are not your offspring.
Phoenix
5th August 2010, 12:18 AM
Well, when Jesus was born circumcision was a wholly jewish enterprise.
Actually, no. Circumcision predates the Israelites/Judeans (please use the proper terminology, or clarify what you mean by "Jewish").
Phoenix
5th August 2010, 12:20 AM
I find it funny how they jews look at orthodox jewry as a heretical schism, because they do not follow the talmud or kabbalist rites, and instead they stick to the laws that God gave them without worshipping the satanic babble of the rabbis.
Orthodox Jews are the most fanatical adherents of the Babylonian Talmud (the so-called "Oral Torah").
You are thinking of the Karaites, hated by all Talmud Jews. The Karaites regard only the Written Torah as valid.
Joe King
5th August 2010, 12:41 AM
Does Anson Williams count?
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8005/potsiel.jpg
;D
Awoke
5th August 2010, 04:17 AM
I find it funny how they jews look at orthodox jewry as a heretical schism, because they do not follow the talmud or kabbalist rites, and instead they stick to the laws that God gave them without worshipping the satanic babble of the rabbis.
Orthodox Jews are the most fanatical adherents of the Babylonian Talmud (the so-called "Oral Torah").
You are thinking of the Karaites, hated by all Talmud Jews. The Karaites regard only the Written Torah as valid.
Yes. I am thinking of the "Karaite Heresy".
I just finished reading "The Thirteenth Tribe", but that is semi-advanced reading IMO, and there is a lot of memory-play involved with the comprehension of the contents.
Basically I couldn't remember the name of the Karaites, but when I said "Orthodox", I meant "Those who follow the religion they way it should be, based on actual scripture, and not perverted re-interpretations.".
The problem I found with the book is that it is like another language when you take into consideration the different "tribes" and empires mentioned. I had never heard of a majority of them. It's a daunting, and after I read some of the others on my prioritized list, I may re-read it again. It's is a shitload of information to absorb.
PatColo
5th August 2010, 10:14 AM
Truth, History, and Integrity:
Questioning the Holocaust Religion (http://www.ccun.org/Opinion%20Editorials/2010/March/15%20o/Truth,%20History,%20and%20Integrity%20Questioning% 20the%20Holocaust%20Religion%20By%20Gilad%20Atzmon .htm)
By Gilad Atzmon
The Jews Who Wrote The Protocols Of Zion (http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=534)
by Brother Nathanael Kapner *
* personally I still find Brother Nathanael's shtick over the top with "the evil jooz!" rhetoric.. to me this is a turd-in-the-punchbowl trap, though I gather others here disagree. ;)
Joe King
5th August 2010, 11:55 PM
Ok, how about Soleil Moon Frye?
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5826/punkycoll0.jpg
Not sure how Righteous and honorable she is, but she always seemed alright. :)
Joe King
7th August 2010, 03:12 AM
Ok, I was just jo-king around with the other ones. {get it? jo-king? Joe King? eh, nevermind}
So here's a serious one.
Abbie Hoffman.
http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/2117/abbiehoffman.jpg
No matter how you may personally feel about the guy, ya gotta admit that it takes real ballz to say what he said to a Federal Judge, and as a defendant no less.
Abbie Hoffman told Judge Hoffman "you are a 'shande fur de Goyim' [disgrace in front of the gentiles]. You would have served Hitler better." He later added that "your idea of justice is the only obscenity in the room." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbie_hoffman#Chicago_Eight_conspiracy_trial)
At his sentencing he suggested the Judge try LSD. lol lol lol
Is there anyone reading this that would even consider doing such a thing? I kinda doubt it.
Not even for milk. ;) lol
I'll even admit that the closest I've ever gotten to doing such a thing was two weeks ago this past Thursday when a cop threatened me with a ticket, and I {politely} told him he wouldn't.
And you know what? He didn't.
Still, not sure if I'd do it to Judge or not. They can throw you in jail on a whim for something that' may not actually be against the law. Cops? Not so much.
LuckyStrike
8th August 2010, 05:28 PM
The following is NSFW
As far as courtroom outbursts go I don't think anything tops Larry Flynt saying to the Supreme Court , "Fuck this court, nothing but eight assholes and a token cunt" (talking about Sandra Day OConner)
Dusty
8th August 2010, 10:08 PM
even today,time wise
their is reason to fear..the dutch land
germiny In history , they went nuts 2 times
for sams/different reasons.
what would hold them back again>?>
same for china..!!!~!!!!!!!!
Trust them lessthanan snake..
and we will still get bit...
trust me it will happen..
do not trust them..
Japs included..
Joe King
10th August 2010, 01:37 AM
What about Kinky Friedman?
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/4316/image788933g.jpg
He seems ok too.
His political positions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinky_Friedman#Issues_and_positions) are better than most of the ones in office, anyway.
Yea? No? Maybe? :)
Edited to add: Oh, and Nordic B you're right, nothing tops that. lol I'd have loved to have seen their faces when he said it, too.
sirgonzo420
10th August 2010, 06:49 AM
The following is NSFW
As far as courtroom outbursts go I don't think anything tops Larry Flynt saying to the Supreme Court , "f*ck this court, nothing but eight assholes and a token cunt" (talking about Sandra Day OConner)
That's how we Kentucky boys roll!
;D
Gaillo
22nd August 2010, 03:06 AM
Mel Brooks. He's gotten thousands of laughs out of me over the years...
philo beddoe
24th August 2010, 08:31 PM
Mel Brooks. He's gotten thousands of laughs out of me over the years...
" Springtime for Hitler" eh GAILLO? We all know where you stand now. There really is no way you can overlook Smel Brooks and pretend he is a hapless go lucky jew.
http://www.google.com/search?q=mel+brooks+the+producers+quotes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Germany was having trouble
What a sad, sad story
Needed a new leader
To restore its former glory
Where, oh where was he?
Where could that man be?
We looked around
And then we found
The man for you and me
And now it's
Springtime for hitler and germany
Deutschland is happy and gay
We're marching to a faster pace
Look out
Here comes the master race
Springtime for hitler and germany
Winter for poland and france
Springtime for hitler and germany
Come on, germans
Go into your dance
I was born in dusseldorf
And that is why they call me rolf
Don't be stupid, be a smarty
Come and join the nazi party
Springtime for hitler and germany
Goosestep's the new step today
Bombs falling from the skies again
Deutschland is on the rise again
Springtime for hitler and germany
Uboats are sailing once more
Springtime for hitler and germany
Means that soon we'll be going
We've got to be going
You know we'll be going to war
Gaillo
25th August 2010, 12:30 AM
Mel Brooks. He's gotten thousands of laughs out of me over the years...
" Springtime for Hitler" eh GAILLO? We all know where you stand now. There really is no way you can overlook Smel Brooks and pretend he is a hapless go lucky jew.
http://www.google.com/search?q=mel+brooks+the+producers+quotes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Germany was having trouble
What a sad, sad story
Needed a new leader
To restore its former glory
Where, oh where was he?
Where could that man be?
We looked around
And then we found
The man for you and me
And now it's
Springtime for hitler and germany
Deutschland is happy and gay
We're marching to a faster pace
Look out
Here comes the master race
Springtime for hitler and germany
Winter for poland and france
Springtime for hitler and germany
Come on, germans
Go into your dance
I was born in dusseldorf
And that is why they call me rolf
Don't be stupid, be a smarty
Come and join the nazi party
Springtime for hitler and germany
Goosestep's the new step today
Bombs falling from the skies again
Deutschland is on the rise again
Springtime for hitler and germany
Uboats are sailing once more
Springtime for hitler and germany
Means that soon we'll be going
We've got to be going
You know we'll be going to war
Hmm...
Wasn't aware of that particular bit - I've just enjoyed laughing at Blazing Saddles, Robin Hood: Men in Tights, Spaceballs, and a few others. The "Hapless go lucky Jew" personae he exhibits fooled me... I admit it. However, I wouldn't be so fast to judge "where I stand" based on that, unless you've already made up your mind about me.
PatColo
27th August 2010, 01:55 PM
Gilad Atzmon (http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/)
One "acid test" separating "altruistic zionists" like Chomsky & Finkelstein (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/righteous-and-honorable-jews/msg85563/#msg85563) from those honorable Jews who reject even being controlled opposition tools, is their openly questioning the veracity the post-WW2 holy grail of zio-hoaxes, the de facto State Religion throughout the West, assisting in the bankster's enslavement of humanity, AKA The Holocaust Controversy (http://www.crusader.net/texts/bt/bt08.html).
***
Truth, History, and Integrity:
Questioning the Holocaust Religion (http://www.ccun.org/Opinion%20Editorials/2010/March/15%20o/Truth,%20History,%20and%20Integrity%20Questioning% 20the%20Holocaust%20Religion%20By%20Gilad%20Atzmon .htm)
By Gilad Atzmon
Al-Jazeerah & ccun.org, March 15, 2010
Back in 2007 the notorious American Jewish right-wing organization, the ADL (Anti-Defamation League) announced that it recognised the events in which an estimated 1.5 million Armenians were massacred as "genocide (http://www.adl.org/PresRele/Mise_00/5114_00.htm)." The ADL's national director, Abraham Foxman, insisted that he made the decision after discussing the matter with ‘historians’. For some reason he failed to mention who the historians were, nor did he refer to their credibility or field of scholarship. However, Foxman also consulted with one holocaust survivor who supported the decision. It was Elie Wiesel, not known for being a leading world expert on the Armenian ordeal.
The idea of a Zionist organization being genuinely concerned, or even slightly moved, by other people’s suffering could truly be a monumental transforming moment in Jewish history. However, this week we learned that the ADL is once again engaged in the dilemma of Armenian suffering. It is not convinced anymore that the Armenians suffered that much. It is now lobbying the American congress not to recognize the killings of Armenians as ‘genocide. This week saw the ADL “speaking out against (http://www.wickedlocal.com/watertown/news/x776893655/Jewish-Armenian-coalition-launches-Armenian-Genocide-recognition-effort) Congressional acknowledgment of the Armenian Genocide, and is, instead, advocating Turkey’s call for a historical commission to study the events.â€
How is it that an event that took place a century ago is causing such a furor? One day it is generally classified as ‘genocide’, the next, it is demoted to an ordinary instance of one man killing another. Was it an ‘historical document’ that, out of nowhere, popped out on Abe Foxman’s desk? Are there some new factual revelations that led to such a dramatic historical shift? l don’t think so.
The ADL’s behaviour is a glimpse into the notion of Jewish history and the Jewish understanding of the past. For the nationalist and political Jew, history is a pragmatic tale, it is an elastic account. It is foreign to any scientific or academic method. Jewish history transcends itself beyond factuality, truthfulness or correspondence rules with any given vision of reality. It also repels integrity or ethics. It by far prefers total submission, instead of creative and critical thinking. Jewish history is a phantasmic tale that is there to make the Jews happy and the Goyim behave themselves. It is there to serve the interests of one tribe and that tribe only. In practice, from a Jewish perspective, the decision whether there was an Armenian genocide or not is subject to Jewish interests: is it good for the Jews or is it good for Israel.
Interestingly enough, history is not a particularly ‘Jewish thing’. It is an established fact that not a single Jewish historical text has been written between the 1st century (Josephus Flavius) and early 19th century (Isaak Markus Jost). For almost 2 thousand years Jews were not interested in their own or anyone else’s past, at least not enough to chronicle it. As a matter of convenience, an adequate scrutiny of the past was never a primary concern within the Rabbinical tradition. One of the reasons is probably that there was no need for such a methodical effort. For the Jew who lived during ancient times and the Middle Ages, there was enough in the Bible to answer the most relevant questions to do with day-to-day life, Jewish meaning and fate. As Israeli historian Shlomo Sand puts it, “a secular chronological time was foreign to the ‘Diaspora time’ that was shaped by the anticipation for the coming of the Messiah.â€
However, in the mid 19th century, in the light of secularisation, urbanisation, emancipation and due to the decreasing authority of the Rabbinical leaders, an emerging need of an alternative cause rose amongst the awakening European Jews. All of a sudden, the emancipated Jew had to decide who he was and where he came from. He also started to speculate what his role might be within the rapidly opening Western society.
This is where Jewish history in its modern form was invented. This is also where Judaism was transformed from a world religion into a ‘land registry’ with some clearly devastating racially orientated and expansionist implications. As we know, Shlomo Sand’s account of the ‘Jewish Nation’ as a fictional invention is yet to be challenged academically. However, the dismissal of factuality or commitment to truthfulness is actually symptomatic of any form of contemporary Jewish collective ideology and identity politics. The ADL’s treatment of the Armenian topic is just one example. The Zionist’s dismissal of a Palestinian past and heritage is just another example. But in fact any Jewish collective vision of the past is inherently Judeo-centric and oblivious to any academic or scientific procedure.
When I was Young
When I was young and naïve I regarded history as a serious academic matter. As I understood it, history had something to do with truth seeking, documents, chronology and facts. I was convinced that history aimed to convey a sensible account of the past based on methodical research. I also believed that it was premised on the assumption that understanding the past may throw some light over our present and even help us to shape a prospect of a better future. I grew up in the Jewish state and it took me quite a while to understand that the Jewish historical narrative is very different. In the Jewish intellectual ghetto, one decides what the future ought to be, then one constructs ‘a past’ accordingly. Interestingly enough, this exact method is also prevalent amongst Marxists. They shape the past so it fits nicely into their vision of the future. As the old Russian joke says, “when the facts do not conform with the Marxist ideology, the Communist social scientists amend the facts (rather than revise the theory)â€.
When I was young, I didn’t think that history was a matter of political decisions or agreements between a rabid Zionist lobby and its favorite holocaust survivor. I regarded historians as scholars who engaged in adequate research following some strict procedures. When I was young I even considered becoming an historian.
When I was young and naive I was also somehow convinced that what they told us about our ‘collective’ Jewish past really happened. I believed it all, the Kingdom of David, Massada, and then the Holocaust: the soap, the lampshade*, the death march, the six million.
As it happened, it took me many years to understand that the Holocaust, the core belief of the contemporary Jewish faith, was not at all an historical narrative for historical narratives do not need the protection of the law and politicians. It took me years to grasp that my great-grandmother wasn’t made into a ‘soap’ or a ‘lampshade’*. She probably perished out of exhaustion, typhus or maybe even by mass shooting. This was indeed bad and tragic enough, however not that different from the fate of many millions of Ukrainians who learned what communism meant for real. “Some of the worst mass murderers in history were Jews†writes Zionist Sever Plocker on the Israeli Ynet disclosing the Holodomor and Jewish involvement in this colossal crime, probably the greatest crime of the 20th century. The fate of my great-grandmother was not any different from hundreds of thousands of German civilians who died in an orchestrated indiscriminate bombing, because they were Germans. Similarly, people in Hiroshima died just because they were Japanese. 1 million Vietnamese died just because they were Vietnamese and 1.3 million Iraqis died because they were Iraqis. In short the tragic circumstances of my great grandmother wasn’t that special after all.
It Doesn’t make sense
It took me years to accept that the Holocaust narrative, in its current form, doesn’t make any historical sense. Here is just one little anecdote to elaborate on:
If, for instance, the Nazis wanted the Jews out of their Reich (Judenrein - free of Jews), or even dead, as the Zionist narrative insists, how come they marched hundreds of thousands of them back into the Reich at the end of the war? I have been concerned with this simple question for more than a while. I eventually launched into an historical research of the topic and happened to learn from Israeli holocaust historian professor Israel Gutman that Jewish prisoners actually joined the march voluntarily. Here is a testimony taken from Gutman’s book
"One of my friends and relatives in the camp came to me on the night of the evacuation and offered a common hiding place somewhere on the way from the camp to the factory. …The intention was to leave the camp with one of the convoys and to escape near the gate, using the darkness we thought to go a little far from the camp. The temptation was very strong. And yet, after I considered it all I then decided to join (the march) with all the other inmates and to share their fate " (Israel Gutman [editor], People and Ashes: Book Auschwitz - Birkenau, Merhavia 1957).
I am left puzzled here, if the Nazis ran a death factory in Auschwitz-Birkenau, why would the Jewish prisoners join them at the end of the war? Why didn’t the Jews wait for their Red liberators?
I think that 65 years after the liberation of Auschwitz, we must be entitled to start to ask the necessary questions. We should ask for some conclusive historical evidence and arguments rather than follow a religious narrative that is sustained by political pressure and laws. We should strip the holocaust of its Judeo-centric exceptional status and treat it as an historical chapter that belongs to a certain time and place
65 years after the liberation of Auschwitz we should reclaim our history and ask why? Why were the Jews hated? Why did European people stand up against their next door neighbours? Why are the Jews hated in the Middle East, surely they had a chance to open a new page in their troubled history? If they genuinely planned to do so, as the early Zionists claimed, why did they fail? Why did America tighten its immigration laws amid the growing danger to European Jews? We should also ask for what purpose do the holocaust denial laws serve? What is the holocaust religion there to conceal? As long as we fail to ask questions, we will be subjected to Zionists and their Neocons agents’ plots. We will continue killing in the name of Jewish suffering. We will maintain our complicity in Western imperialist crimes against humanity.
As devastating as it may be, at a certain moment in time, a horrible chapter was given an exceptionally meta-historical status. Its ‘factuality’ was sealed by draconian laws and its reasoning was secured by social and political settings. The Holocaust became the new Western religion. Unfortunately, it is the most sinister religion known to man. It is a license to kill, to flatten, to nuke, to wipe, to rape, to loot and to ethnically cleanse. It made vengeance and revenge into a Western value. However, far more concerning is the fact that it robs humanity of its heritage, it is there to stop us from looking into our past with dignity. Holocaust religion robs humanity of its humanism. For the sake of peace and future generations, the holocaust must be stripped of its exceptional status immediately. It must be subjected to thorough historical scrutiny. Truth and truth seeking is an elementary human experience. It must prevail.
Important Note:
*During WWII and after it was widely believed that soaps and lampshades were being mass produced from the bodies of Jewish victims. In recent years the Israeli Holocaust museum admitted that there was no truth in any of those accusations.
link (http://www.ccun.org/Opinion%20Editorials/2010/March/15%20o/Truth,%20History,%20and%20Integrity%20Questioning% 20the%20Holocaust%20Religion%20By%20Gilad%20Atzmon .htm)
Sparky
27th August 2010, 04:19 PM
Sammy Davis Jr.
Awoke
28th August 2010, 02:55 PM
Here is a couple other pictures of the jew Sammy Davis, with the jew Anton Levay, whom is the founder of the church of satan.
http://28.media.tumblr.com/QEaXSVTVv9oasie8yyV623II_400.jpg
http://panachereport.com/images/AntonLaVeySammyDavisJr._000.jpg
Sparky
28th August 2010, 09:15 PM
He kind of looks like Satan.
Joe King
29th August 2010, 01:12 AM
He kind of looks like Satan.
Just kind of?
Here, look again. (http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3522/antonlaveysammydavisjr0.jpg)
Libertarian_Guard
30th August 2010, 02:39 PM
Well Sammy may have been a Jew, but we always knew he had a dark side......
ximmy
30th August 2010, 02:43 PM
A neighbor came by (been unemployed for over a year) and said his wife (protestant) just got a job at a Jewish school part time, good hours, good pay...
Here's to people who just want to do good... http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s222/chrisneros/smilies/beer-1.gif
PatColo
30th August 2010, 03:13 PM
Israelis Risk Jail to Smuggle Palestinians (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20750)
600 sign up for campaign of disobedience
by Jonathan Cook
Global Research, August 24, 2010
Nearly 600 Israelis have signed up for a campaign of civil disobedience, vowing to risk jail to smuggle Palestinian women and children into Israel for a brief taste of life outside the occupied West Bank.
The Israelis say they have been inspired by the example of Ilana Hammerman, a writer who is threatened with prosecution after publishing an article in which she admitted breaking the law to bring three Palestinian teenagers into Israel for a day out.
Ms Hammerman said she wanted to give the young women, who had never left the West Bank, “some fun†and a chance to see the Mediterranean for the first time.
Her story has shocked many Israelis and led to a police investigation after right-wing groups called for her to be tried for security offences.
It is illegal to transport Palestinians through checkpoints into Israel without a permit, which few can obtain. If tried and found guilty, Ms Hammerman could be fined and face up to two years in jail.
But Israelis joining the campaign say they will not be put off by threats of imprisonment.
Last month, a group of 11 Israeli women joined Ms Hammerman in repeating her act of civil disobedience, driving a dozen Palestinian women and four children, including a baby, through a checkpoint into Israel.
The Israeli women say they are planning mass “smugglings†of Palestinians into Israel over the coming weeks.
“The Palestinians who join us are mainly looking to have a good time after years of confinement under the occupation, but for us what is most important is our act of defiance,†said Ofra Lyth, who helped establish an online forum of supporters after attending a speech by Ms Hammerman.
“We want to overturn this immoral law that gives rights to Jews to move freely around while keeping Palestinians imprisoned in their towns and villages,†she said, referring to regulations that bar most Palestinians in the occupied territories from entering Israel, and Israelis from assisting them. Exceptions are made for Palestinians with permits, sometimes issued for a medical emergency or to some labourers with security clearance.
For the Palestinian women, though, it is not about making a statement or defying an unjust law, said Ms Lyth.
“The Palestinian women tell us: ‘Go ahead and make your political point, but for us we’re breaking the law so that we can enjoy ourselves and remember how life was before the checkpoints and the wall.’ One woman told me: ‘I just want to be able to breathe again’.â€
For Palestinians in the West Bank, it is not often easy to breathe. The territory is home to a growing population of 300,000 Jews in more than 100 settlements. The settlers are able to drive into Israel on roads that the army oversees with checkpoints.
It was through one such settler crossing, near Beitar Ilit, south of Jerusalem, that Ms Hammerman took the three Palestinian teenagers this year.
For their protection, she has not identifed the young women or the West Bank village where they live. She refers to the women as Aya, Lin and Yasmin. They, too, could face jail for breaking the law.
In Ms Hammerman’s article, published in the Haaretz newspaper in May, she admitted that she was aware her actions were illegal.
She told the women, who were 18 and 19, to take off their hijabs for the day and dress in western-style clothes to avoid attracting attention from soldiers at the checkpoint. She also taught them an easy Hebrew phrase -- Hakull beseder, or “Everything is okay†-- in case a soldier spoke to them.
She then took them on a tour of Tel Aviv, visiting the city’s university, a museum, a shopping mall and the beach, which she noted none of them had ever seen even though it is only about 40km from their village.
Gisha, an Israeli human rights group, said Israel introduced a permit system to limit Palestinian movement out of the West Bank in the early 1990s – about the time the young women were born.
Ms Hammerman wrote that the only dangerous moment during the trip was when a plain-clothes policeman stopped them and asked for the women’s identity cards. Ms Hammerman lied to the officer, telling him that the women were Palestinians from East Jerusalem and therefore entitled to enter Israel.
In June, Yehuda Weinstein, the attorney general, was reported to have approved a police investigation of Ms Hammerman after a settler organisation, the Legal Forum for the Land of Israel, complained.
The ranks of Ms Hammerman’s supporters have swollen since the group placed an advertisement, titled “We refuse to obeyâ€, in Haaretz this month. The ad said the group was “acting in the spirit of Martin Luther Kingâ€, the US civil rights leader, and demanded that Palestinians be treated as “human beings, not terroristsâ€.
Over the past week, the online forum has attracted more than 590 Israelis signing up to repeat Ms Hammerman’s act of civil disobedience.
“That has really surprised and encouraged me,†she said. “I did not realise there were so many other Israelis who have had enough of this outrageous law.â€
Still, the coverage of Ms Hammerman and her supporters in the Israeli media has been largely hostile. During a television interview last week, she was accused of endangering Israelis with her trips. The show’s host, Yaron London, asked whether she had inspected the Palestinian women’s underclothes for explosives before allowing them into her car.
She will will not be deterred, though. She said the group had discussed future trips for Palestinians, including taking them to pray at al-Aqsa, the mosque in Jerusalem that has been inaccessible to most Palestinians for at least a decade, and visits to Palestinian relatives they cannot see in Jerusalem and Israel.
“We need to get Israelis meeting Palestinians again, having fun with them and seeing that they are human beings with the same rights as us.â€
She said her immediate goal was to kick-start a discussion among Israelis about the legality and morality of Israel’s laws and challenge the public’s “blind obedience†to authority.
Ms Lyth added that the Palestinian women “who have gone on our trips are the heroes of their village. They and their families know they are taking a big risk in breaking the law, but harassment is part of their daily lives anywayâ€.
Till now the trips have been restricted to smuggling Palestinian women and children only, said Ms Hammerman. “It is harder to bring men in without being discovered and the authorities would be likely to treat Palestinian men much more harshly if they were caught.â€
Jonathan Cook is a writer and journalist based in Nazareth, Israel. His latest books are “Israel and the Clash of Civilisations: Iraq, Iran and the Plan to Remake the Middle East†(Pluto Press) and “Disappearing Palestine: Israel's Experiments in Human Despair†(Zed Books). His website is www.jkcook.net.
Fortyone
1st September 2010, 03:54 AM
This is a good idea
Libertarian_Guard
1st September 2010, 02:19 PM
This is a good idea
Then you'll like this as well.
Israeli academics boycott West Bank settlements
More than 150 Israeli academics say they will no longer lecture or work in Jewish settlements in the West Bank.
In a letter, they said they supported the recent decision by a group of actors and others not to take part in cultural activity there.
The academics said that acceptance of the settlements caused "critical" damage to Israel's chances of achieving peace with the Palestinians.
Close to 500,000 Jews live in more than 100 settlements built since Israel's 1967 occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. They are considered illegal under international law, although Israel disputes this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11141774
DMac
1st September 2010, 02:35 PM
Here is a couple other pictures of the jew Sammy Davis, with the jew Anton Levay, whom is the founder of the church of satan.
http://28.media.tumblr.com/QEaXSVTVv9oasie8yyV623II_400.jpg
http://panachereport.com/images/AntonLaVeySammyDavisJr._000.jpg
Wow, thanks for the pic Awoke! Never knew Sammy was buddy buddy with "Howard Stanton Levey"
Funny now thinking back to GIM and "Silver Sammy" - Sammy the converted Jew who hung out in Satanist circles "to meet the chicks".
What an icon for that site eh?
hoarder
1st September 2010, 04:05 PM
I'm a bit more cautious about naming righteous and honorable Jews than some of you guys.
Sometimes people who dislike ZOG will like Jews who either appear to expose it (like Makow) or have ideologies (Mises) that are more palatable than those ZOG broadcasts.
But to understand the Khazar problem is to understand their tactics. One will stand up and shout "I believe in such and such ideology", Then another stands up and shouts "I believe such and such is not fair". Then the next one stands up and espouses opposite ideology and curses the Jew that espoused it (giving him fame). But this game fills voids that Goys might have filled better and they know it.
Some Jews, like Shlomo Sand and Arthur Koestler tell the truth about Khazars and then proceed to perpetuate falshoods about the hollow-cost among other damage control. Are they righteous Jews or void fillers or something else? Maybe they honestly believe the hollowcost, I'm not sure.
But I will name some righteous and honorable Jews who's ideologies I may disagree with but believe they are honest and sincere .
Millions of everyday Jews who are ignorant of what their upper tribesmen are up to.
Benjamin Freedman.
Israel Shamir
Maybe
Rabbi Marc Lee Raphael
If I think of any others I'll edit.
PatColo
1st September 2010, 07:03 PM
Someone has to post this latest from "Brother Nathaniel (http://www.realzionistnews.com)". I'm still undecided on the guy (goy?), still sometimes find his rhetoric a little over the top (evoking a subconscious bagel aroma), but remain interested in hearing his latest. His official story of having left Judaism in favor of Christianity raises the ole question, "what is Jew?"... a Khazar? One whose mother is Jewish? Does the mother have to be a practitioner of Judaism, or can she just be a Khazar atheist/etc? Depending on the answer to those type questions, Brother Nat may or may not be a righteous & honorable "Jew"... & why doesn't he lose the hairy rabbinical/lubavich look?
see some commentary @ link,
Why I Left Judaism (http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=544)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGTp1Q162Gw
PatColo
19th September 2010, 05:13 PM
I see this thread lost its stickiness.. :conf:
from Gilad Atzmon:
Talking To The Wall (http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/talking-to-the-wall.html)
DateThursday, September 16, 2010 at 12:27PM AuthorGilad Atzmon
An old Jewish joke:
A female CNN journalist heard about a very old Jewish man who had been going to the Western Wall to pray, twice a day, every day, for a long, long time.
So she went to check it out. She went to the Western Wall and there he was, walking slowly up to the holy site.
She watched him pray and after about 45 minutes, when he turned to leave, using a cane and moving very slowly, she approached him for an interview.
"Pardon me, sir, I'm Rebecca Smith from CNN. What's your name?
"Morris Feinberg," he replied.
"Sir, how long have you been coming to the Western Wall and praying?"
"For about 60 years."
"60 years! That's amazing! What do you pray for?"
"I pray for peace between the Christians, Jews and the Muslims. I pray for all the wars and all the hatred to stop. I pray for all our children to grow up safely as responsible adults, and to love their fellow man."
"How do you feel after doing this for 60 years?"
"Like I'm talking to a fvcking wall."
Atzmon comments (http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/talking-to-the-wall.html):
Moral: I guess that Israelis should stop talking to walls and start to talk to people around them. Alternatively, if they are brave enough, they can also take a look in the mirror. By the time they do that peace will prevail.
Awoke
20th September 2010, 07:12 AM
I see this thread lost its stickiness.. :conf:
I haven't been posting in this thread because I can't find a righteous or honorable jew...
PatColo
20th September 2010, 02:20 PM
I see this thread lost its stickiness.. :conf:
I haven't been posting in this thread because I can't find a righteous or honorable jew...
NONSENSE! Here's a righteous & honorable jew now,
A Tale of Jewish Kindness (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/07/29/jewish-kindness/#more-1672)
A wealthy Israeli Jew, riding in his limousine, munching down a Reuben-on-Rye and drinking a cup of Starbucks coffee saw two Palestinian men along the roadside eating grass. Disturbed, he ordered his driver to stop and he got out to investigate the matter.
He asked one man, “Why are you eating grass?â€
“We don’t have any money for food,†the poor Palestinian man replied. “We have to eat grass.â€
“Well then, you can come with me to my house and I’ll feed you,†the Israeli Jew said.
“But sir, I have a wife and two children with me. They are over there, under that tree.â€
“Bring them along,†the Israeli Jew replied.
Turning to the other poor Palestinian man the Israeli Jew stated, “You come with us also.â€
The second Palestinian man, in a pitiful voice then said, “But sir, I also have a wife and nine children with me!â€
“Bring them all, as well,†the Israeli Jew answered.
They all entered the car, which was no easy task, even for a car as large as the limousine.
Once underway, one of the poor fellows turned to the Jew and said, “Sir, you are too kind. Thank you for taking all of us with you.â€
The Jew replied, “Glad to do it. You’ll love my place– the grass is almost three feet tall!â€
;D
Shami-Amourae
11th October 2010, 11:03 PM
Charlotte Gerson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X23o3RzJuPo
(This is from a 6 our presentation, which you can view more of on YouTube.)
Libertarian_Guard
13th November 2010, 11:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBYsNdLYgmA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjWAGscG7rs&feature=related
Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss
Twisted Titan
14th November 2010, 10:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmgs36b1BuU
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