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Carbon
22nd July 2010, 12:47 PM
I did a search on the boards - didn't see anything about this. Pardon if it's been posted somewhere previously.

Received via e-mail - the links check out.


2011 W-2 Tax Forms and Obamacare


Should you want to verify this, go to http://www.thomas.gov/, enter "HR 3590" in the search box and look for "CRS Summaries." This is what you'll find. (or use direct link: http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:5:./temp/~c1113jaS0N:e2458760:)

Title IX Revenue Provision Subtitle A: Revenue Offset
"(Sec. 9002) Requires employers to include in the W-2 form of each employee the aggregate cost of applicable employer-sponsored group health coverage that is excludable from the employee's gross income (excluding the value of contributions to flexible spending arrangements)."

Starting in 2011 next year the W-2 tax form sent by your employer will be increased to show the value of whatever health insurance you are provided. It doesn't matter if you're retired. Your gross income WILL go up by the amount of insurance your employer paid for. So you'll be required to pay taxes on a larger sum of money that you actually received. Take the tax form you just finished for 2009 and see what $15,000.00 or $20,000.00 additional gross income does to your tax debt. That's what you'll pay next year. For many it puts you into a much higher bracket. (See also: Tax Tsunami on the Horizon (http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/541131/201007211841/The-Tax-Tsunami-On-The-Horizon.aspx) for more on additional tax increases in 2011)

This is how the government is going to buy insurance for fifteen (15) percent that don't have insurance and it's only part of the tax increases, but it's not really a "tax increase" as such, it a redefinition of your taxable income.

Also, go to Kiplinger's and read about the thirteen (13) tax changes for 2010 that could affect you.

Why am I sending you this? The same reason I hope you forward this to every single person in your address book. People have the right to know the truth because an election is coming in November. So vote intelligently, based on your values. But also adjust your tax withholding, or increase your savings, so that you aren't
surprised and put in a jam when your federal income taxes are due on April 15, 2012.

silversurfer
22nd July 2010, 02:34 PM
snopes sez the tax is only on the amount above a threshold of $27,500 of employer sponsored healthcare and affects very few people

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/hr3590.asp

Phoenix
22nd July 2010, 03:41 PM
snopes sez the tax is only on the amount above a threshold of $27,500 of employer sponsored healthcare and affects very few people

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/hr3590.asp


Snopes is usually full of shit.

They state:

"This is another case of a legislative issue which has a kernel of truth to it, but which has been misinterpreted, affects only a small percentage of the population, and has misleadingly been blown out of proportion through someone's mistaken assumption that it applies to everyone."


Yeah, just like the "Alternative Minimum Tax" (AMT) was originally for "the rich," and now applies to an ever-increasing percentage of the upper-middle class.

StackerKen
22nd July 2010, 03:56 PM
So am I going to have to pay taxes on the amount my employer pays for my health care...or not? :conf:

(less than 20K)

Phoenix
22nd July 2010, 04:12 PM
So am I going to have to pay taxes on the amount my employer pays for my health care...or not? :conf:

(less than 20K)


Not initially, at least.

1970 silver art
23rd July 2010, 02:58 AM
If that is really true, then that does not sound very good for me because my employer pays a large portion of the health insurance premium. This is just a guesstimate on my part but I think that I only pay about 20% of the total health insurance premium while my employer pays the remaining 80% of the total premium.

Ares
23rd July 2010, 05:19 AM
I have an HSA so for all intents and purposes I'm "Self" insured. I have yet to go visit a doctor in the 2 years I've had my HSA account.

What would my tax liability be according to this "law"?

chad
23rd July 2010, 06:13 AM
imho, this will be "turned on" in full force in a few years when nationalized healthcare becomes self aware. they'll need the money then. until then, it's just warming you up.