Be careful how and what you post..

[StackerKen]

Pay attention to fair use laws

Borrowing a page from patent trolls, the CEO of fledgling Las Vegas-based Righthaven has begun buying out the copyrights to newspaper content for the sole purpose of suing blogs and websites that re-post those articles without permission. And he says he’s making money.

More at the link..

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/copyright-trolling-for-dollars/

[Plastic]

That face of his has jew written all over it................

[Ares]

Know how you get around that little tid bit? Lock down general discussion so that ONLY MEMBERS can read it. Have new members join via sponsorship. Keep the prying eyes of greed out from reading.

[crazychicken]

Know how you get around that little tid bit? Lock down general discussion so that ONLY MEMBERS can read it. Have new members join via sponsorship. Keep the prying eyes of greed out from reading.


Good idea!

CC

[MNeagle]

What a bastage.

[StackerKen]

What a bastage.


Yep

[Apparition]

Know how you get around that little tid bit? Lock down general discussion so that ONLY MEMBERS can read it. Have new members join via sponsorship. Keep the prying eyes of greed out from reading.


Good idea!

CC


Agreed.

In addition, with the financial collapse around the corner everyone will be desperate to make a living somehow.

These guys are just preparing ahead of time.

[DMac]

I'm not a laywer but what I think is that fair use comes into play on gsus as there are no ads or profits being realized on here. That makes suing for cc infringement much harder.

I checked glp today and there were a couple of threads about them being sued over something like this.

[Phoenix]

It'd be a shame if he ends up having an "accident."

[Serpo]

Good example of going as LOW as you can go

[Serpo]

At the other extreme

The Most Format & Content-Plagiarized Site On The Net



http://www.rense.com/

[MNeagle]

I post a lot of news articles, would they go after me or GSUS?

[Ragnarok]

If someone only posts a snippet or two from an article, followed by a link to the original for further reading if desired, there is no problem. That is a legally recognized example of "fair use". To post the entire article , without permissionof the writer/owner, is a horse of a different color and might leave an opening for legal action.

2c, R.

[the riot act]

Not that it would happen, but if all the bloggers just stopped posting news articles and links the MSM would dry up. The scum depend on the hits that come from the referrals to show their advertisers.

Do like some other people do. Block all the search bots from indexing your site. Who really cares where a site ranks with google and the others? No indexing, no record.

[StackerKen]

Im sure those news site want folks to link to their sites cause the advertises pay more that way.

If people copy and paste a whole story they get less hits on their news site.

But that guy in the OP is still a jerk...

[Phoenix]

Im sure those news site want folks to link to their sites cause the advertises pay more that way.


The newspapers aren't interested in the copyrights...this prick is buying the copyrights, and then using them to enrich himself.

99% of decent posters link to the original source, out of courtesy. And I always click the link, rather than read it locally.

[Book]

I post a lot of news articles, would they go after me or GSUS?


Nothing to worry about here at GSUS. You post the most informative articles here MNeagle.

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[Dave Thomas]

This seems to be in vogue now.

I had a customer, that had a website designed by some guy years ago, and on it she sold little nicknacks, beads, jewelery, etc. It was a hobby website. Well one day she got a letter from Getty Images, stating that she owed Getty $2500 bucks for the images she used on her website. Apparently Getty Images used a revolutionary new company called Picscout that scoured the web looking for Getty copyrighted images, they'd check to see if the owner had ever purchased the images, if they did not they'd send a demand letter stating that they owed them money for the pictures. Some folks caught up in this net were charged in upwards of 20,000 dollars. Well at first she told them that she had some web guy build the site, they told her that it did not matter, she still owed the money, or face possible subpoena in court if she did not pay.

I took down the said images, and she waited. They sent another two or three letters each one getting more and more threatening. Then all of a sudden the collection agencies started calling. At this point she realized that they were on a gigantic fishing expedition, and just ignored it. Long story short, the matter went away.

Some further digging reveals that Getty tried not ONE of these cases in court. But god knows how many businesses and individuals got scared and payed up.

It's nothing more than a high tech shakedown.

If the company that originally published the content went out of business, and you're using said content even under fair use I don't see how they have a case.

They are just looking for scared people to write checks, since dragging people into court and actually trying the case for violations less than 10,000 dollars has got to be a money loser for companies like Getty and of course this jackass.

Type Getty and Picscout into google, and you can read of thousands of stories of folks freaking out over this. I'm kinda glad she didn't pay too.

Oh and Picscout is an Israeli company to boot. Hee Hee.

[MAGNES]

Not that it would happen, but if all the bloggers just stopped posting news articles and links the MSM would dry up. The scum depend on the hits that come from the referrals to show their advertisers.

Do like some other people do. Block all the search bots from indexing your site. Who really cares where a site ranks with google and the others? No indexing, no record.


Sincerely, thanks for the info mayhem.

[sirgonzo420]

GODDAMMIT where did Dave Thomas go?!


>:(

[sirgonzo420]

Not that it would happen, but if all the bloggers just stopped posting news articles and links the MSM would dry up. The scum depend on the hits that come from the referrals to show their advertisers.

Do like some other people do. Block all the search bots from indexing your site. Who really cares where a site ranks with google and the others? No indexing, no record.


Sincerely, thanks for the info mayhem.


Why do you think that's mayhem?

[Ponce]

I am no lawyer (even if sometimes I think that I am hahahahahahah) but, posting something in the WWW to me is like doing something in a public place where anyone can see you or take your picture......or in other words.........public domain.........unless it says so in plain English that is not being publiched for reposting, to me that is like a "no tresspasing" sign in your property.

[wildcard]

Not that it would happen, but if all the bloggers just stopped posting news articles and links the MSM would dry up. The scum depend on the hits that come from the referrals to show their advertisers.

Do like some other people do. Block all the search bots from indexing your site. Who really cares where a site ranks with google and the others? No indexing, no record.


Sincerely, thanks for the info mayhem.


Why do you think that's mayhem?


Doesn't take Columbo to figure some things out.

[Grand Master Melon]

It'd be a shame if he ends up having an "accident."
LOL ;D

[Twisted Titan]

SPEAK YOUR MIND.............EVEN IF YOUR VOICE TREMBLES

Margaret Khun

[General of Darkness]

Interesting. I got this from GLP.


This RightHaven founder Steven Gibson is definitely a "Chicago Guy"...so I did a little digging in the public domain.....

Steven A. Gibson

Born: Chicago, Illinois, December 11, 1963

School: Chicago-Kent College of Law
Degree: J.D.
City: Chicago
State: IL
Year: 1990
Honors: IIT/Chicago-Kent College of Law. Cum Laude 1990.

Prior to establishing his own firm, Mr. Gibson was an associate at Sidley Austin LLP a Chicago Law firm...

Just click on "Work History"



well well well...another Chicago guy who was there at the time finishing up Law School along with....Barack Obama...maybe they crossed paths?

In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year,[37] and president of the journal in his second year.[38] During his summers, he returned to Chicago, where he worked as a summer associate at the law firms of Sidley Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990


...Guess where Mr and Mrs Obama met....

Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin, where she first met her future husband.

>>>> And Guess what Michelle and Steven Gibson both did???
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY LAW...AT THE SAME LAW FIRM...!!!

At the firm, she worked on marketing and intellectual property.


Unreal...the networking between these people is staggering...

[Book]

Unreal...the networking between these people is staggering...



They understand the power of networking and so work 24/7 destroying ours.

[Hermie]

What a bastage.


Farging bastage.

[goldmonkey]

....

[mightymanx]

This brings a good quote to mind:

"Take off and nuke the site from orbit it is the only way to be sure"
-Ripley

[keehah]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/copyright-troll-righthaven-achieves-spectacular-fair-use-loss.ars

At a hearing last week, the judge decided that CIO's use of the full article text was, in fact, a fair use under the "four-factor test" enshrined in law.

Steve Green, a reporter at the competing Las Vegas Sun newspaper, attended the hearing. Judge Mahan told both sides that the purpose of copyright law was to encourage creativity and to disseminate public access to information, so long as that did not unfairly hinder the market for the original story. In this case, Mahan said that the tiny Oregon nonprofit had essentially zero overlap between the readers of its website and the readers of the Review-Journal. In addition, the effect on the "market" for the work is unclear, since Righthaven is solely using the copyright to prosecute a lawsuit, not to defend its news operations (it has none).

The reposted article also fit within CIO's nonprofit educational mission, and the judge said that it was largely informational in nature, rather than creative.

The judge also blasted Righthaven for not notifying groups like CIO before filing a federal lawsuit; most would no doubt remove or limit the offending material if notified by the copyright holder.

As Green noted in a follow-up piece, the result here is almost comical: Righthaven goes to war in the name of tough copyright enforcement and winds up with a ruling that complete republication by some nonprofits falls under the scope of fair use. "Some 250 Righthaven lawsuits later, Righthaven's startling achievement is that newspapers now have less—not more—protection from copyright infringers," Green concluded.

The ruling isn't as "out there" as it might initially sound; courts have long recognized various complete reuses as "fair." As lawyer Jason Schultz pointed out in an amicus brief to the court, this was true even of the famous Sony decision that legalized the VCR in America; complete shows could be copied and it was "fair."

[sirgonzo420]

GODDAMMIT where did Dave Thomas go?!


>:(



aaaaaaand I still miss Dave Thomas.


>:(

[keehah]

aaaaaaand I still miss Dave Thomas.


>:(


Time to send him a PM!

See post #64 today.
http://goldismoney2.com/showthread.php?15952-Here-s-MY-Adios-thread.../page3

[Horn]

I always thought that Andial was a fairly good poster.

Noticed he is still over there. I either forgot my password, or my account was vacated.

[sirgonzo420]

aaaaaaand I still miss Dave Thomas.


>:(


Time to send him a PM!

See post #64 today.
http://goldismoney2.com/showthread.php?15952-Here-s-MY-Adios-thread.../page3


I'm fresh out of open accounts there, and am IP banned.

I encourage anyone who has an open account there to rescue as many GIMers as possible.

[vacuum]

aaaaaaand I still miss Dave Thomas.


>:(


Time to send him a PM!

See post #64 today.
http://goldismoney2.com/showthread.php?15952-Here-s-MY-Adios-thread.../page3


I'm fresh out of open accounts there, and am IP banned.

I encourage anyone who has an open account there to rescue as many good GIMers as possible.

fixed it a bit

[Horn]

Maybe those Red & Blue snakes were fortunate ones...? ;D

[osoab]

aaaaaaand I still miss Dave Thomas.


>:(


Time to send him a PM!

See post #64 today.
http://goldismoney2.com/showthread.php?15952-Here-s-MY-Adios-thread.../page3


Interesting thread. I see their is a general lack of respect emanating from that site.

[Horn]

What kind of a CIA op doesn't let none members see the members list?

Do we do that here? ;D

Somebody should snap a shot of it. :-X

[Horn]

Interesting thread. I see their is a general lack of respect emanating from that site.


I read most of it.

How sad, most of them are on a ghost train to afraid to look out the window.

Forget what i said about Andial, he looks to be corrupted by market forces.

[madfranks]

aaaaaaand I still miss Dave Thomas.


>:(


Time to send him a PM!

See post #64 today.
http://goldismoney2.com/showthread.php?15952-Here-s-MY-Adios-thread.../page3


I'm fresh out of open accounts there, and am IP banned.

I encourage anyone who has an open account there to rescue as many GIMers as possible.


I've sent a couple PMs over there today, to Russkie and Dave T. Do they monitor the PMs over there? Because if they do, I'm toast. ;D

[Ponce]

Franks? what can they do to you?.......kicked you our of GSUS? hahahahahahahahaha

[osoab]

Interesting thread. I see their is a general lack of respect emanating from that site.


I read most of it.

How sad, most of them are on a ghost train to afraid to look out the window.

Forget what i said about Andial, he looks to be corrupted by market forces.


There were some quite vile bashing remarks by handles I didn't recognize.

After a full year, I figured that this forum would be lost to the dust bin of history over there.

[SLV^GLD]

After a full year, I figured that this forum would be lost to the dust bin of history over there.
They hate us for our freedoms... ;D

[hoarder]

I've sent a couple PMs over there today, to Russkie and Dave T. Do they monitor the PMs over there? Because if they do, I'm toast. ;D
They probably monitor this site to see who tells on himself. ;)

[Twisted Titan]

I still got access over there

maybe make a list of people you want me to try to reach out to


I really miss ruprick and argent dragon and tom d to name a few

[Hatha Sunahara]

I saw yesterday that Russkie started his own Adios (or Dasvidanya) thread. He was a thoughtful, articulate poster, much like others who have said good bye recently. It appears that they are falling apart over there. There are a lot of pirhana in the water over there who will eat you alive if you even think of going for a swim.

Hatha

[mick silver]

if the people over there do not know about this forum by now then i just dont know if they could find it if you email them are not