The Firmament

[philo beddoe]

I'm putting this in general instead of religion because I am much more interested in the scientific aspect
Doesn't Genesis mention the earth having a firmament in the sky, that somehow broke during Noahs flood?
It also mentioned that water vapor came out of the ground instead of having rain.
So a firmament was something like a dirty ice sheet that circled the globe at some level?

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

That is correct, I believe the technical term given in the bible is "The Fountains of the Deep" are what cracked and produced much of the water present.


Also I have heard some very interesting theories relating the flood you are mentioned to roughly 13,000 years ago, or 11,000 BCE. This is when the last ice age ended very suddenly, whereas previous ice ages ended gradually. The working theory is that there was an ice shelf in anartica several times what is there currently, and at some point that broke off for some reason, due to weight, or some other earth trigger. Anyway if the entire shelf fell into the anartic, it's not completely implausible that it would create a title wave that would encompass the entire world for a time. Also, the slowly receding waters after the major wave would explain the sudden ending of the ice age and the immediate increase of rainfall. It would also explain why all the earliest human civilazations of that time were hill civilizations, not immediately plains civilizations, and why this is the first time, from an archaeological standpoint, we really start seeing "advances" in animal husbandry, domestiction, and farming, all at the same time, in societies across the globe.

As for the firmament, I can't speak to that, but you're on the right track with researching the fountains of the deep.

[Saul Mine]

fir·ma·ment
 
 /ˈfɜrməmənt/ Show Spelled[fur-muh-muhnt] Show IPA
–noun
the vault of heaven; sky.

Origin: 1250–1300; ME < LL firmāmentum sky, L: support, prop, stay, equiv. to firmā ( re ) to strengthen, support ( see firm2 ) + -mentum -ment

—Related forms
fir·ma·men·tal  /ˌfɜrməˈmɛntl/ Show Spelled[fur-muh-men-tl] Show IPA, adjective

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Scientists have looked hard for evidence of a great flood. They found two. one in 3167 BC and one about 1,500 years before that. Noah's flood is dated to 2349 BC and absolutely NO evidence has ever been found for that one. Nevertheless, a flood was recorded that year in hundreds of languages all over the Earth.

Here is a thorough investigation of the evidence. (http://saturniancosmology.org/) It is long, being an examination of all history from 9500 BC to 767 BC as recorded in several languages and including comparisons of the different stories in their different languages. Here is a shorter introduction to the topic, with pretty pictures. (http://www.maverickscience.com/saturn.htm)

There is considerable confusion in the languages of the stories. For example, some languages do not distinguish between past, present, and future, some do not have actual sentence structure, and most do not have words for anything the natives were not familiar with. One thing that has been sorted out of this confusion is "the deep" mentioned in the bible. That is a concept that is shared by several languages, English abyss, Greek abysos, Egyptian duat (usually translated "two horizons"), and similar words in several Mediterranean and near eastern languages. The Earth had a ring in the early days! From the ground it looked like a sea in the southern sky, and Saturn sat above the north pole, so the Earth was the middle kingdom. In Chinese the name China means middle kingdom.

So, long story short, and the story is incomplete, Noah's flood may have been the collapse of Earth's ring.

[7th trump]

Nothing to worry about. They have found frozen elephants with buttercups in their mouths in the artic. The firmament made the whole earth a tropical paradise And there was no oceans like today. All the water was up in the sky blanketing the earth (firmament) and protected it.
There was no rain or thunderstorms, tornadoes, hurricanes or flooding. The firmament watered the earth with a heavy dew.
The good news is God will restore the firmament in the third earth age you read about in Revelations. The earth morns the return of the firmament as its written.

[philo beddoe]

One of the things i was getting at was whether the firmament was liquid or ice. Because it uses the word 'firm' I would guess Ice. It could of been liquid water or clouds...... There are some problems with it being ice....mainly a small stroid could break it up. There is a scientific answer for everything

[StackerKen]

All the water was up in the sky blanketing the earth (firmament) and protected it.
There was no rain or thunderstorms, tornadoes, hurricanes or flooding. The firmament watered the earth with a heavy dew.


That has always been how I understood it too.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I really like this discussion and will continue to read.

[JDRock]

" the waters over the earth" created a natural hyperbaric chamber, which is why plants and animals grew so big and people lived to 900+ years... when that water layer fell to earth causing the great flood, all this changed dramatically.

[philo beddoe]

" the waters over the earth" created a natural hyperbaric chamber, which is why plants and animals grew so big and people lived to 900+ years... when that water layer fell to earth causing the great flood, all this changed dramatically.
I guess no one here is a scientist, but we could probably establish at what elevation a firmament could of been, and at what level liquid, gas or ice. think they are all tangible. I would guess liquid would have to be at a lower level, and an ice sheet would be higher with a mix of dirt and rock.

[philo beddoe]

" the waters over the earth" created a natural hyperbaric chamber, which is why plants and animals grew so big and people lived to 900+ years... when that water layer fell to earth causing the great flood, all this changed dramatically.
Ok with this hyperbaric chamber. If there is a 1% chance of this, it would be worth it to figure out the exact conditions that could be reproduced. A more oxygenated environment? Higher/lower air pressure? A 25 hour day? A 62 degree night and a 72 degree day, therefore producing some plant that kept people alive longer?

[philo beddoe]

This guy says no. But it is easy to poke some holes in his theories.
http://www.godandscience.org/youngearth/canopy.html


http://www.google.com/search?q=firmament+theories&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

[Phoenix]

" the waters over the earth" created a natural hyperbaric chamber, which is why plants and animals grew so big and people lived to 900+ years... when that water layer fell to earth causing the great flood, all this changed dramatically.


Yes, I don't have it offhand, but I read a pretty well-argued essay about the firmament causing atmospheric pressure to be significantly higher than today, and the increased oxygen available to cells made things live longer.

[philo beddoe]

" the waters over the earth" created a natural hyperbaric chamber, which is why plants and animals grew so big and people lived to 900+ years... when that water layer fell to earth causing the great flood, all this changed dramatically.


Yes, I don't have it offhand, but I read a pretty well-argued essay about the firmament causing atmospheric pressure to be significantly higher than today, and the increased oxygen available to cells made things live longer.
You know I even heard that that is where the dragon legends came from, that some reptiles could breathe fire because of the increased oxygen levels.

[Saul Mine]

One of the things i was getting at was whether the firmament was liquid or ice. Because it uses the word 'firm' I would guess Ice. It could of been liquid water or clouds...... There are some problems with it being ice....mainly a small stroid could break it up. There is a scientific answer for everything


Well, I suggest you stop guessing. The word has a definition and it is very clear.

[philo beddoe]

One of the things i was getting at was whether the firmament was liquid or ice. Because it uses the word 'firm' I would guess Ice. It could of been liquid water or clouds...... There are some problems with it being ice....mainly a small stroid could break it up. There is a scientific answer for everything


Well, I suggest you stop guessing. The word has a definition and it is very clear.
The word in the KJV came from another hebrew word (raqia) that does not necessarily mean firm. I thought all you jews knew hebrew?

[StackerKen]

" the waters over the earth" created a natural hyperbaric chamber, which is why plants and animals grew so big and people lived to 900+ years... when that water layer fell to earth causing the great flood, all this changed dramatically.


Yes, I don't have it offhand, but I read a pretty well-argued essay about the firmament causing atmospheric pressure to be significantly higher than today, and the increased oxygen available to cells made things live longer.
You know I even heard that that is where the dragon legends came from, that some reptiles could breathe fire because of the increased oxygen levels.


I thought it might be "off topic" until you mentioned dragons.

I have read that reptiles never stop growing (until they die of course)

so if a reptile was to live say, a few hundred years.....that would a big reptile...or Dinosaur

[Cebu_4_2]

Even tho Philo is either a gay tranny or in fact a real live living female she/he is nothing but a govt. paid schill and followed by it.

enjoy your life being paid to do schill work, must be great once you get home huh?

[philo beddoe]

Even tho Philo is either a gay tranny or in fact a real live living female she/he is nothing but a govt. paid schill and followed by it.

enjoy your life being paid to do schill work, must be great once you get home huh?
f*ck you asshole. You can kiss my ass and if the (mod) don't want to do anything about your snide attack they can f*ck off too.
And don't come to me with any shit about us both making insults GAILLO. His post has been sitting there three hours. cebu 4 jew your just mad because I honeypotted all the fucking jews and antis and moles on the other thread.

[Phoenix]

OK, children, stop it.

[Mouse]

Even tho Philo is either a gay tranny or in fact a real live living female she/he is nothing but a govt. paid schill and followed by it.

enjoy your life being paid to do schill work, must be great once you get home huh?
f*ck you asshole. You can kiss my ass and if the (mod) don't want to do anything about your snide attack they can f*ck off too.
And don't come to me with any sh*t about us both making insults GAILLO. His post has been sitting there three hours. cebu 4 jew your just mad because I honeypotted all the f*cking jews and antis and moles on the other thread.


It's "You're". And I see you misspelled the word f*ck several times, as well as sh*t. There is also a run-on sentence in your post.

These aren't fightin words, I actually agree with you. And the personal attack should be moved to the playground where it is more fun to watch.

I also just spent like two hours reading that stuff that Saul Mine put up. Very interesting content.

[Glass]

isn't there an alignment coming soon? The stuff Saul Mine posted is very interesting and thought provoking. doh. thanked the wrong post. :oo-->

[JDRock]

" the waters over the earth" created a natural hyperbaric chamber, which is why plants and animals grew so big and people lived to 900+ years... when that water layer fell to earth causing the great flood, all this changed dramatically.
Ok with this hyperbaric chamber. If there is a 1% chance of this, it would be worth it to figure out the exact conditions that could be reproduced. A more oxygenated environment? Higher/lower air pressure? A 25 hour day? A 62 degree night and a 72 degree day, therefore producing some plant that kept people alive longer?


im not as well versed in science as most here, but it has been explained to me that labs have done experiments and everything lives longer and grows larger in those conditions....im gonna do a lil research on it.

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11g9wj22J8I

[StackerKen]

The stuff on at the link that Saul posted is interesting to read...But I think a lot of it probably made up .

They got all this from cave drawings and ancient poetry?

and the guy doing the writing (and Research?)a visual artist (sculpture, installations), living in Chicago where he teaches photography.

Im just not buying it for several reasons

One for instance is this


In July of 685 BC, Jupiter also flared up in response to the Sun's increased output of plasma, and on July 14 sent a return lightning stroke, a plasmoid bolt, headed for the Sun. It arrived on July 25th

How the heck could this guy know exact dates like that? and on what calender?

I realize that many things are possible....
But that is
Too far out there for me


just sayin

[StackerKen]

And whats up with this pic on the the page that Saul linked to?

http://saturniancosmology.org/eyecon.jpg

Is that a occult symbol?

[Horn]

And whats up with this pic on the the page that Saul linked to?

http://saturniancosmology.org/eyecon.jpg

Is that a occult symbol?


Whats funny is, I didn't even see Saul's post before I remembered Saturn.

There is science out there trying to come up with conclusions to the extra water present on Earth that shouldn't be there.

I don't know if it's Christian science or just plain science though? :)


Professor Taylor had written earlier about the Venusian north polar vortex: "the absence of viable theories which can be tested, or in this case any theory at all, leaves us uncomfortably in doubt as to our basic ability to understand even gross features of planetary atmospheric circulations." So there was no reason, other than an appeal to symmetry, for scientists to expect a similar vortex at the south pole of Venus. Based on the electrical model, I predicted that Venus' south pole would also have a vortex. I make the same prediction for Saturn's opposite (north) pole. Cassini scientists are unsure because the north pole is in darkness and receives no solar heat.

http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=4egjus1n

[StackerKen]

thanks for the link Horn... I found this there...and am watching it now

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=4773590301316220374#

[Book]

Even tho Philo is either a gay tranny or in fact a real live living female she/he is nothing but a govt. paid schill and followed by it.

enjoy your life being paid to do schill work, must be great once you get home huh?


Another... "Rabidly over-paranoid jew conspiracy melon wearing ditto head"

[Horn]

Maybe the world was really flat, once upon a time? ;)

http://wanderingspace.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/saturn-fly-ring-1.jpg

[Gaillo]

Even tho Philo is either a gay tranny or in fact a real live living female she/he is nothing but a govt. paid schill and followed by it.
enjoy your life being paid to do schill work, must be great once you get home huh?


Cebu_4_2 - Since this is your first ban for personal attack, you get 3 days.




f*ck you asshole. You can kiss my ass and if the (mod) don't want to do anything about your snide attack they can f*ck off too.
And don't come to me with any sh*t about us both making insults GAILLO. His post has been sitting there three hours. cebu 4 jew your just mad because I honeypotted all the f*cking jews and antis and moles on the other thread.


philo beddoe - The mods can't be everywhere on this forum and see everything that is going on. I was not on the forum much yesterday, and this is the first I've seen of these 2 posts. As far as "coming to you with sh*t" about you both making insults, you've been here long enough to know better than that. I rarely make any exceptions (though it has happened...) when people make personal attacks on each other, regardless of who "started it". You've been banned twice in the past for personal attacks, and been warned by Madfranks in another thread. This is your third time and people typically get a month at that point. See you in 30.






Even tho Philo is either a gay tranny or in fact a real live living female she/he is nothing but a govt. paid schill and followed by it.
enjoy your life being paid to do schill work, must be great once you get home huh?


Another... "Rabidly over-paranoid jew conspiracy melon wearing ditto head"


VERY borderline on this one... close to being an attack. Watch it, EdgeCrusher - you don't want to be #3 on this thread.

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx8WVmiHpF0

[dysgenic]

That's not the first website I've come across that that exact symbol. I wouldn't trust it based on my experience.

dys



And whats up with this pic on the the page that Saul linked to?

http://saturniancosmology.org/eyecon.jpg

Is that a occult symbol?

[dysgenic]

Anyone remember the thread in the last days of Gim1 that made the argument that Saturn=Satan and that the picture of Jesus is actually the picture of Satan?

dys

[dysgenic]

...and the symbol pops up again: (1:16)




http://www.youtube.com/user/stdoomsayer#p/c/C0BB188D5F87E5B9/2/Xe4bUAKv4TU



And whats up with this pic on the the page that Saul linked to?

http://saturniancosmology.org/eyecon.jpg

Is that a occult symbol?

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Most Indian, Greek, Roman, Sumerian, Babylonian, and Egyptian pantheons stock their deities in sets of 12. Always sets of 12. If somebody wants to join the lofty deities, another must resign, so the number stays at 12. Religions with a lot of deities has multiple sets of 12.


Sun
Mercury
Venus
Earth
Earth's Moon
Mars
Jupiter
Saturn
Uranus
Neptune
Pluto


That's 11 counting sun and moon as celestial bodies..... if there really is a 12th planet with a wide and long elliptical orbit...it would explain the deity similarity and 12 being a sacred number...

But discount that whole 12th planet thing for a moment...

I want to know how the ancient civilazations knew about the planets past Saturn, like Neptune...And Pluto...They didn't have telescopes but they knew they were there...weird...

I'm like a rumor mill tonight. Sorry





Anyone remember the thread in the last days of Gim1 that made the argument that Saturn=Satan and that the picture of Jesus is actually the picture of Satan?

dys

[Gaillo]

Most Indian, Greek, Roman, Sumerian, Babylonian, and Egyptian pantheons stock their deities in sets of 12. Always sets of 12. If somebody wants to join the lofty deities, another must resign, so the number stays at 12. Religions with a lot of deities has multiple sets of 12.


Sun
Mercury
Venus
Earth
Earth's Moon
Mars
Jupiter
Saturn
Uranus
Neptune
Pluto


That's 11 counting sun and moon as celestial bodies..... if there really is a 12th planet with a wide and long elliptical orbit...it would explain the deity similarity and 12 being a sacred number...

But discount that whole 12th planet thing for a moment...


Don't discount the 12th celestial body... it exists/existed and you don't even need to go beyond Jupiter to find it... the asteroid belt was the 12th... it was destroyed in a war... sacred scriptures of many cultures tell the story.

I've probably already said too much... Happy searching! ;)

[Mouse]

There are also 12 tones in an octave. The music westerners listen to are all tuned in 12 step frequencies.

With 12's so abundant in nature why do the freaks worship 11's?

[Gaillo]

There are also 12 tones in an octave. The music westerners listen to are all tuned in 12 step frequencies.

With 12's so abundant in nature why do the freaks worship 11's?


Jewish Kabbalisitic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah) philosophy... 10 Sephiroth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephirot) (worlds) plus an 11th "Hidden" Sephiroth (Daath or Da'at) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daat) - Totals 11. Completely dismissible, except for the fact that, interestingly, modern physics "string theory" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory#Extra_dimensions) postulates the existence of 10 alternate "dimensions", along with an 11th dimension necessary to tie the divergent variations of string theory together:


One such theory is the 11-dimensional M-theory, which requires spacetime to have eleven dimensions,[2] as opposed to the usual three spatial dimensions and the fourth dimension of time. The original string theories from the 1980s describe special cases of M-theory where the eleventh dimension is a very small circle or a line, and if these formulations are considered as fundamental, then string theory requires ten dimensions. But the theory also describes universes like ours, with four observable spacetime dimensions, as well as universes with up to 10 flat space dimensions, and also cases where the position in some of the dimensions is not described by a real number, but by a completely different type of mathematical quantity. So the notion of spacetime dimension is not fixed in string theory: it is best thought of as different in different circumstances

Who knows... is the nature of the universe compatible with ancient Jewish mysticism, or did modern Jewish mystics fund leading-edge physics research and conclusions? Inquiring minds want to know! ;)

[Mouse]

I shall contemplate this on the 12 frets of my martin d-35 and report back. ;D

[Gaillo]

I shall contemplate this on the 12 frets of my martin d-35 and report back. ;D


Only 12 frets? I'd ask for your money back! ;D

[Grand Master Melon]

philo beddoe - The mods can't be everywhere on this forum and see everything that is going on. I was not on the forum much yesterday, and this is the first I've seen of these 2 posts. As far as "coming to you with sh*t" about you both making insults, you've been here long enough to know better than that. I rarely make any exceptions (though it has happened...) when people make personal attacks on each other, regardless of who "started it". You've been banned twice in the past for personal attacks, and been warned by Madfranks in another thread. This is your third time and people typically get a month at that point. See you in 30.



Oh man, I don't know if I can make it 30 days without a post by philo. Who will load us all up with videos of Guns N Roses?

[Mouse]

Them's the ones I do most of my playing on for acoustics.

It's funny but I got this stuck in my head when I picked her up.

It was just stuck.

I went out to see what up.

Some system of a down got stuck in bug ear. I get the bugs pretty easy. Very interesting song, mostly can be done acoustic, otherwise I would have to go downstairs and plug up. I am lazy, acoustic is fine with me.

I love guitars. Ask Muffin. I got an obsession or some such thing, she says.

I also love muffin. Just ask my guitars. I got an obsession or some such thing, they says.

This is what popped out of my head that I was "trying to play"

<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/L-iepu3EtyE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1?rel=0"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/L-iepu3EtyE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1?rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

There is a bug in this thing that makes the video come out twice, and I cannot see what I am typing. Need to diicuss this on another thread. My apotologiesi f the spelling is fubar,. I can't see what I am typping.,

loves

[G2Rad]

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[JohnQPublic]

The firmament is space itself (http://www.ldolphin.org/setterfield/vacuum.html) (Genesis 1:8, And God called the firmament Heaven...). It is what used to be referred to as the aether. One of the things that quantam mechanics tells us is that space is a substance more like window glass than a vacuum (i.e., it is firm under some circumstances and flow/deforms under others). Scientists refer to it as space foam and other names today. Even Einstein eventually admitted thre must be an aether, but in his view it was not "ponderable". Quantam mechanics leads to the idea of space becoming composed of Planck level particle, which today we cannot detect, but scientists believe to exist. Their theoretical density is extreme (10^93 g/cc).

The firmament comes from the Hebrew "raqva", which refers to something beaten out, stretched out. The firmament in a sense was stretched/beaten out around the earth. Interestingly, what happens when light travels through stretched (think expanded) space? You get red shift.

The firmament is that which the earth, moon sun, planets, stars, etc. are contained within- "space", the universe, heaven. It is flexible, yet solid (window glass is solid, yet is actually a fluid which deforms on very long tie scales). It is flexible to birds flying though the sky, but solid enough to contain the heavenly bodies.

[horseshoe3]

Scientists have looked hard for evidence of a great flood. They found two. one in 3167 BC and one about 1,500 years before that. Noah's flood is dated to 2349 BC and absolutely NO evidence has ever been found for that one. Nevertheless, a flood was recorded that year in hundreds of languages all over the Earth.


Interestingly enough, the mesoamerican long count calendar dates the end of the last world and the beginning of the current world to 3114BC. This is only 53 years away from 3167BC. Given the possibility of errors or the time taken to set up civilization and a new calendar, this could be more than a coincidence.

Also, how do they date Noah's flood to 2349 BC? Through the Genesis account, I've dated it to 1656 after creation. After that, the Bible gets very vague about dates and I've never been able to pin down the gap between the flood and the birth of Jesus.

[7th trump]

Scientists have looked hard for evidence of a great flood. They found two. one in 3167 BC and one about 1,500 years before that. Noah's flood is dated to 2349 BC and absolutely NO evidence has ever been found for that one. Nevertheless, a flood was recorded that year in hundreds of languages all over the Earth.


Interestingly enough, the mesoamerican long count calendar dates the end of the last world and the beginning of the current world to 3114BC. This is only 53 years away from 3167BC. Given the possibility of errors or the time taken to set up civilization and a new calendar, this could be more than a coincidence.

Also, how do they date Noah's flood to 2349 BC? Through the Genesis account, I've dated it to 1656 after creation. After that, the Bible gets very vague about dates and I've never been able to pin down the gap between the flood and the birth of Jesus.

God does speak of the three earth ages.
The first earth age was destroyed by flood that made Noahs flood look like a walk in the park picnic.

[G2Rad]

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[k-os]

I am really enjoying this thread (minus a few posts, of course). I never heard of this firmament, and I probably just passed over the word thinking that I knew what it meant.

Please, continue.

[Horn]

...and the symbol pops up again: (1:16)




http://www.youtube.com/user/stdoomsayer#p/c/C0BB188D5F87E5B9/2/Xe4bUAKv4TU



And whats up with this pic on the the page that Saul linked to?

http://saturniancosmology.org/eyecon.jpg

Is that a occult symbol?



http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/456731818_bcf1105252.jpg

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I believe God also states in the bible that there are three heavens. I need to dig up my source material.


Edit: I'm probably being naive by posting this, but here goes...


The First Heaven: Earth Atmosphere
Deut. 11:17 -- Then the LORD's anger will burn against you, and he will shut the heavens so that it will not rain and the ground will yield no produce....
Deut. 28:12 -- The LORD will open the heavens, the storehouse of his bounty, to send rain on your land in season and to bless all the work of your hands.
Judges 5:4 -- "O LORD, when you went out from Seir, when you marched from the land of Edom, the earth shook, the heavens poured, the clouds poured down water.
Acts 14:17 -- "Yet he has not left himself without testimony: He has shown kindness by giving you rain from heaven and crops in their seasons;...

The Second Heaven: Outer Space
Psalm 19:4,6 -- In the heavens he has pitched a tent for the sun... It rises at one end of the heavens and makes its circuit to the other;...
Jeremiah 8:2 -- They will be exposed to the sun and the moon and all the stars of the heavens which they have loved and served....
Isaiah 13:10 -- The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light.

The Third Heaven: God's Dwelling Place
1 Kings 8:30 (phrase repeated numerous times in following verses) -- then hear from heaven, your dwelling place...
Psalm 2:4 -- The One enthroned in heaven laughs; The LORD scoffs at them.
Matthew 5:16 -- In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.

The highest heaven, the third heaven is indicated by the reference to the Throne of God being the highest heaven:
1 Kings 8:27 -- "But will God really dwell on earth? The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you.
Deut. 10:14 -- To the LORD your God belong the heavens, even the highest heavens, the earth and everything in it.