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Hermie
27th July 2010, 02:45 PM
Oliver Stone forced to apologize for saying Jews control the media by the Jews who control the media.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1298023/Oliver-Stone-apologises-claim-Hitler-scapegoat.html

"Director Oliver Stone has been forced to apologize over a ‘Mel Gibson-style’ rant against Jews.

The double Academy Award winner claimed that the Russians suffered more during the Second World War and that there was a Jewish ‘domination of the media’.

Stone also claimed that Jews monitor every comment made against them and that they had ‘f***** up’ US foreign policy for years.

In an interview in January he sparked fury when he claimed that Hitler was an ‘easy scapegoat’.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1298023/Oliver-Stone-apologises-claim-Hitler-scapegoat..."
More at link.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1298023/Oliver-Stone-apologises-claim-Hitler-scapegoat.html

Bigjon
27th July 2010, 03:24 PM
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Oliver Stone: Jewish control of the media is preventing free Holocaust debate

Outspoken Hollywood director says new film aims to put Adolf Hitler, who he has called an 'easy scapegoat' in the past, in his due historical context

Haaretz (Israeli newspaper) | July 26, 2010

(Michael Hoffman's observations immediately follow this report) http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2010/07/oliver-stone-adolf-hitler-hitler-and.html


Jewish control of the media is preventing an open discussion of the Holocaust, prominent Hollywood director Oliver Stone told the Sunday Times, adding that the U.S. Jewish lobby was controlling Washington's foreign policy for years.

In the Sunday (July 25) interview, Stone reportedly said U.S. public opinion was focused on the Holocaust as a result of the "Jewish domination of the media," adding that an upcoming film of him aims to put Adolf Hitler and Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin "in context."

"There's a major lobby in the United States," Stone said, adding that "they are hard workers. They stay on top of every comment, the most powerful lobby in Washington."

The famed Hollywood director of such films as Platoon and JFK, also said that while "Hitler was a Frankenstein," there was also a "Dr Frankenstein. German industrialists, the Americans and the British. He had a lot of support," Stone told the Sunday Times, adding that "Hitler did far more damage to the Russians than the Jewish people, 25 or 30 [million killed]."

Referring to the alleged influence of the powerful Jewish lobby on U.S.
foreign policy, Stone said that Israel had distorted "United States foreign policy for years," adding he felt U.S. policy toward Iran was "horrible. Iran isn't necessarily the good guy," Stone said, insisting that Americans did not "know the full story."

Stone's comments to the Sunday Times echo pervious remarks by the Hollywood director, regarding what he conceives as the distorted view of figures such as Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin in U.S. media. Earlier this year, Stone, speaking at the at the Television Critics Association's semi-annual press tour in Pasadena said that "Hitler is an easy scapegoat throughout history and it's been used cheaply. He's the product of a series of actions. It's cause and effect ... People in America don't know the connection between World War I and World War II,"
Stone said, adding that through his documentary work he has been able to "walk in Stalin's shoes and Hitler's shoes to understand their point of view."

"We're going to educate our minds and liberalize them and broaden them.
We want to move beyond opinions ... Go into the funding of the Nazi party. How many American corporations were involved, from GM through IBM. Hitler is just a man who could have easily been assassinated,"
Stone said.

End quote from Haaretz

HOFFMAN'S OBSERVATIONS

The Gevurah/Right wing Republican neocons are running wild with Stone's remarks, pointing to them as a manifestation of the Chesed/Left-wing's incomparably perverted true nature. As part of this Left/Right charade, Mr. Stone is being cast as the unconscionable bad guy possessed of depraved indifference to a genocidal maniac (Hitler). This fire is directed by Zionist lapdogs who regard the Palestinian people as lower than dirt and cheer the Orthodox Judaic rabbinate who encourage Israeli
atrocities in Palestine.

Amid the canned outrage approved by New York and Hollywood, let's ask, where is the outrage over Rabbi Shapira, who declared, "It is permissable to kill the Righteous among Nations even if they are not responsible for the threatening situation. If we kill a Gentile who has sinned or has violated one of the seven commandments – because we care about the commandments — there is nothing wrong with the murder."

Where is the outrage over Goldwin Smith, Judaic Professor of Modern History at Oxford University, who opined, "We Jews regard our race as superior to all humanity, and look forward, not to its ultimate union with other races, but to its triumph over them."

Where is the outrage over Noel Ignatiev, Harvard professor: "…The goal of abolishing the white race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacist…Keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females, too, until the social construct known as the white race is destroyed. Not deconstructed, but destroyed."

Gee, I'm sorry that I can't be more "patriotic" and join with "Avodah Zarah" Sarah (Palin) and "Flush Limberger" and the rest of the six-pointed mobsters disguised as Jeffersonian Constitutionalists, in hurling heated epithets at Oliver Stone, when their Israeli and Zionist heroes are running about advocating killing gentiles while wearing the striped pajamas of Auschwitz inmates.

This theatre of the absurd unfolds against the backdrop of relentless focus on Islam as the "most evil religion on earth" and a threat to all the other "benign" world religions, such as the warm, fuzzy Judaism whose "holy" book says Jesus Christ is in hell being boiled in feces.
With apologies to Sarah and Flush and everyone at The Weekly Standard and Fox Noose, as a Christian I dare not fail to publicly condemn and abominate the disgusting and blasphemous rabbinic religion and still hope for mercy from my Savior on Judgment Day.

Forgetting that Judaism and Islam were allies for centuries, from enforced ignorance about Judaism, Islam emerges as the primary religious menace in the minds of Americans. The reaction against Oliver Stone, who merely pricked the gas bag of the monotonous Holohoax propaganda industry (and then issued the de rigueur apology for telling the truth about it), is out of all proportion because Americans do not study what Judaism actually is and care little or nothing for the Nazi-like crimes of the little Hitlers who serve the Israeli war machine while financed with US taxpayer dollars.

Stone says Hitler was a stooge of the corporations. I say he was a stooge of deep cover Kabbalistic Judaism, as manifested in the New Age occult beliefs that were his astrological religion. Dig beneath the Orthodox Judaic surface and you will excavate rabbinic admiration for Hitler as "G-d's avenging angel" against the majority of 20th century European Judaics who were in the process of liberating themselves from the prison house of Talmudism. Of this Oliver Stone is as ignorant as any Tea Party tippler.

Michael Hoffman is the author of "Judaism Discovered." He writes from Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.

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mamboni
27th July 2010, 03:36 PM
Not a word about Olver Stone's father being Jewish. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

UFM
27th July 2010, 03:45 PM
stone is a joo. he know the jews help mexizo attack us on 911

I am me, I am free
27th July 2010, 05:02 PM
That didn't take long, now did it? lol

No, the Zionists don't fully control the media, and this incident proves that in spades. /sarc

Tumbleweed
27th July 2010, 05:36 PM
Jesus christ was anti jew and I'm on his side.

UFM
28th July 2010, 02:45 PM
Jesus christ was anti jew and I'm on his side.


jesus was king of the jews

Hermie
28th July 2010, 04:17 PM
Jesus christ was anti jew and I'm on his side.


jesus was king of the jews


You are way off.
If you're interested in the truth, it's not hard to find...

Tumbleweed
28th July 2010, 06:12 PM
Jesus christ was God.

Silver Rocket Bitches!
29th July 2010, 05:23 AM
Jesus christ was God.


Are you saying God hates Jews?





:D

Tumbleweed
29th July 2010, 06:08 AM
Jesus christ was God.


Are you saying God hates Jews?





:D


I don't know if Jesus hated Jews but he identified who they were. NordicBerserker posted this link in another thread and this is a paragraph from it. It's a good read.

http://www.jesuswasnotajew.com/page-1/

I tell you that I am not following the Jew: I am following the Incarnate Revelation of The Most High. Before you ask me, Is Jesus Christ a Jew? I ask you this question: Is Yahweh a Jew? We have Jesus’ own words in Matt. 23:33 in which He turned and told the Jews that they are serpents and a generation of vipers. He was not talking about the symbol of Lucifer’s kingdom. He said they are Lucifer’s descendants. I want to emphasize the fact that one of the first things that Jesus did in that conversation was to deny any family relationship. (This is also one of the important records of the book of John.) He denied any relationship with them, and in the instance when they were creating great pressures upon Him, Jesus made this statement: “I am of My Father, and you are of your father.” Therefore, I want to point out something that is most significant concerning Christ. First, let us go to Isaiah 7:14, and read what it says about His birth. “Therefore Yahweh Himself the Eternal One shall give you a sign: Behold, a virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His Name Immanuel” (which is “Yahweh with us “).

Awoke
29th July 2010, 07:53 AM
Amid the canned outrage approved by New York and Hollywood, let's ask, where is the outrage over Rabbi Shapira, who declared, "It is permissable to kill the Righteous among Nations even if they are not responsible for the threatening situation. If we kill a Gentile who has sinned or has violated one of the seven commandments – because we care about the commandments — there is nothing wrong with the murder."

Where is the outrage over Goldwin Smith, Judaic Professor of Modern History at Oxford University, who opined, "We Jews regard our race as superior to all humanity, and look forward, not to its ultimate union with other races, but to its triumph over them."

Where is the outrage over Noel Ignatiev, Harvard professor: "…The goal of abolishing the white race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacist…Keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females, too, until the social construct known as the white race is destroyed. Not deconstructed, but destroyed."

Gee, I'm sorry that I can't be more "patriotic" and join with "Avodah Zarah" Sarah (Palin) and "Flush Limberger" and the rest of the six-pointed mobsters disguised as Jeffersonian Constitutionalists, in hurling heated epithets at Oliver Stone, when their Israeli and Zionist heroes are running about advocating killing gentiles while wearing the striped pajamas of Auschwitz inmates.


Some real jewels there. Thank you.

Awoke
29th July 2010, 07:58 AM
jesus was king of the jews


This is a philo-semetic lie.

They asked him if he is the King of jews, and he replied "You say it is so" or something to that effect.

Twisted Titan
29th July 2010, 08:08 AM
He shouldnt have to apologize.........

Everbody "in the know" realizes its The Arabs that Control Hollywood. ;D


T

shakinginmyshoes
29th July 2010, 08:39 AM
"We Jews are powerless, helpless, innocent victims, always scapegoated, always persecuted. And we'll destroy you if you say we're not."

TheNocturnalEgyptian
29th July 2010, 01:13 PM
What I find telling is that his comment "Jews control the media" led to him having his new television series yanked. Without stating that his opinion is correct or incorrect, if Arabs OR whites controlled the media, why would this comment lead to his show being yanked? I'm just thinking out loud here.

sirgonzo420
29th July 2010, 01:14 PM
What I find telling is that his comment "Jews control the media" led to him having his new television series yanked. Without stating that his opinion is correct or incorrect, if Arabs OR whites controlled the media, why would this comment lead to his show being yanked? I'm just thinking out loud here.


Because the jews who control the media don't like it when somebody talks about them.

StackerKen
29th July 2010, 01:18 PM
Jesus christ was anti jew and I'm on his side.


Can you show me why you think that?

Any evidence of that in the Bible at all??

and for those of you that say Jesus wasn't a Jew, What does this verse mean?

King James Bible (John 1:11)
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

Who were "his own" that received him not?

JDRock
29th July 2010, 01:45 PM
jesus was king of the jews


This is a philo-semetic lie.

They asked him if he is the King of jews, and he replied "You say it is so" or something to that effect.


Wrong. Whether or not a fact is convienient, or not the fact remains he answered YOU SAID IT! the greek emphatic.......my opinion, your opinion,it doesnt matter.

StackerKen
29th July 2010, 02:05 PM
New International Version (©1984)
"Are you the king of the Jews?" asked Pilate. "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Pilate asked Jesus, "Are you the king of the Jews?" Jesus replied, "You have said it."

English Standard Version (©2001)
And Pilate asked him, “Are you the King of the Jews?” And he answered him, “You have said so.”

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Pilate questioned Him, "Are You the King of the Jews?" And He answered him, "It is as you say."

International Standard Version (©2008)
As soon as it was morning, the high priests convened a meeting with the elders and scribes and the whole Council. They bound Jesus with chains, led him away, and handed him over to Pilate.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Pilate asked him, "Are you the king of the Jews?" "Yes, I am," Jesus answered him.

King James Bible
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto them, Thou sayest it.

American King James Version
And Pilate asked him, Are you the King of the Jews? And he answering said to them, You say it.

American Standard Version
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering saith unto him, Thou sayest.

Bible in Basic English
And Pilate put a question to him, Are you the King of the Jews? And he, answering, said to him, You say so.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And Pilate asked him: Art thou the king of the Jews? But he answering, saith to him: Thou sayest it.

Darby Bible Translation
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered and said to him, Thou sayest.

English Revised Version
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering saith unto him, Thou sayest.

Webster's Bible Translation
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering, said to him, Thou sayest it.

Weymouth New Testament
So Pilate questioned Him. "Are *you* the King of the Jews?" he asked. "I am," replied Jesus.

World English Bible
Pilate asked him, "Are you the King of the Jews?" He answered, "So you say."

Young's Literal Translation
and Pilate questioned him, 'Art thou the king of the Jews?' and he answering said to him, 'Thou dost say it.'

mamboni
29th July 2010, 02:11 PM
New International Version (©1984)
"Are you the king of the Jews?" asked Pilate. "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Pilate asked Jesus, "Are you the king of the Jews?" Jesus replied, "You have said it."

English Standard Version (©2001)
And Pilate asked him, “Are you the King of the Jews?” And he answered him, “You have said so.”

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Pilate questioned Him, "Are You the King of the Jews?" And He answered him, "It is as you say."

International Standard Version (©2008)
As soon as it was morning, the high priests convened a meeting with the elders and scribes and the whole Council. They bound Jesus with chains, led him away, and handed him over to Pilate.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Pilate asked him, "Are you the king of the Jews?" "Yes, I am," Jesus answered him.

King James Bible
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto them, Thou sayest it.

American King James Version
And Pilate asked him, Are you the King of the Jews? And he answering said to them, You say it.

American Standard Version
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering saith unto him, Thou sayest.

Bible in Basic English
And Pilate put a question to him, Are you the King of the Jews? And he, answering, said to him, You say so.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And Pilate asked him: Art thou the king of the Jews? But he answering, saith to him: Thou sayest it.

Darby Bible Translation
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered and said to him, Thou sayest.

English Revised Version
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering saith unto him, Thou sayest.

Webster's Bible Translation
And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering, said to him, Thou sayest it.

Weymouth New Testament
So Pilate questioned Him. "Are *you* the King of the Jews?" he asked. "I am," replied Jesus.

World English Bible
Pilate asked him, "Are you the King of the Jews?" He answered, "So you say."

Young's Literal Translation
and Pilate questioned him, 'Art thou the king of the Jews?' and he answering said to him, 'Thou dost say it.'


This is an illustration of the nuance and variability in language translation. Perhaps the translators, not the world leaders, are the most important functionaries of the day!

StackerKen
29th July 2010, 02:22 PM
that was Mark 15:2

the next verse Mark 15:3

And the chief priests accused him of many things: but he answered nothing.

When Jesus is accused of something that isn't true....he doesn't bother to defend himself...no need to.

StackerKen
29th July 2010, 02:26 PM
This is an illustration of the nuance and variability in language translation. Perhaps the translators, not the world leaders, are the most important functionaries of the day!


Well you could translate it for yourself and the rest of us...do you know greek Mamboni?

here is what I got from "Strong's"

Thou sayest it. =

1) to say, to speak
a) affirm over, maintain
b) to teach
c) to exhort, advise, to command, direct
d) to point out with words, intend, mean, mean to say
e) to call by name, to call, name
f) to speak out, speak of, mention

StackerKen
29th July 2010, 02:31 PM
Jesus christ was anti jew and I'm on his side.


Can you show me why you think that?

Any evidence of that in the Bible at all??

and for those of you that say Jesus wasn't a Jew, What does this verse mean?

King James Bible (John 1:11)
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

Who were "his own" that received him not?


Im wondering why Tumbleweed came and went with out replying .....??

Hopefully is is trying to find some proof of his statement. and will come back with some sort of answer to my question.

Any one else want to tell and show me why they think Jesus didn't like Jews?

Tumbleweed
29th July 2010, 05:54 PM
Ken I work for a living and there will be no retirement for me. Generaly I'm up between 4 and 5 am. I'm usualy busy all day until dark. I may look in here while I'm eating or taking a break and make a comment but that is all. I just saw your post a little while ago but didn't have time to reply at the moment.

As a christian I believe in a triune god. Father,Son and Holy Spirit. Three in one. The Jews denied Jesus was God and had him beat to death. You cannot turn against God and enter the kingdom of heaven. The Jews of today still deny Jesus was God. they say he was a nice man but that's all. It's their behavior that condemns them and turns god against them.

This below is quoted from the book the "Plot against the church" and I think it probably can answer your question better than I.
http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/


So that Catholics may not have the slightest doubt of the testimonies which are recorded, we translate with special care what the outstanding Zionist writer Joseph Dunner writes in his book “The Republic of Israel”, in which he asserts the following:

“For every sect believing in Christ, Jesus is the symbol of everything that is healthy and worthy of love. For the Jews he is from the 4th century onward the symbol of ‘Antisemitism’, of slander, of violence and of violent death.”36

If the Israelites regard our Lord Jesus Christ as a symbol of “Antisemitism”, or better expressed, of “Anti-Judaism”, then they are completely right; for if they describe as “Antisemites” those who blame and combat their disgraceful deeds, then our Divine Redeemer was the first who did this. When our Lord Jesus Christ had a discussion with certain Jews, He began the following dialogue, as the Gospel of John relates:

Chapter VIII, Verse 39: “They answered and said unto him, ‘Abraham is our father.’ Jesus saith unto them, ‘If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God; this did not Abraham. 41. Ye do the deeds of your father.’ Then said they to him, ‘We be not born of fornication; we have one father, even God.’ 44. ‘Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it. 47. He that is of God heareth God’s words; ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.’ 48. Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, ‘Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?’ 49. Jesus answered, ‘I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.’ ” And this passage of the Gospel ended with the following verses: “57. Then said the Jews unto him, ‘Thou are not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?’ 58. Jesus said unto them, ‘Verily, verily, I say unto you: Before Abraham was, I am.’ 59. Then took they up stones to cast at him; but Jesus hid Himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.”37

In the preceding passage of the Gospel of John, one sees how Christ, our Lord, upbraids the Jews for their murderous intentions, and calls them children of the devil. He likewise proves that the Hebrews of that time were unable to carry on discussions in a calm and honourable form, exactly as today, without bringing in insults, slanders or violent actions, always according to its suiting them. And if with our Divine Redeemer they used lies and insults and attempted to dishonour Him, as He Himself gives evidence in Verse 49, or strove to end the discussion with stone-throwing, what could we poor human creatures then expect?

In Chapter XXIII of the Gospel of Matthew, our Lord Jesus, in reference to the Jewish leaders who opposed him so much,38 describes the latter as hypocrites (V. 13, 14, 15, etc), “full of iniquity” (Verse 28), foolish, blind (Verse 17); clean outside, but within full of extortion and excess (Verse 25); whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outwards, but within are full of dead men’s bones and of all uncleanness (Verse 27); children of them which killed the prophets (Verse 31). The said chapter of the Holy Gospels ends with this express complaint of our Lord Jesus Christ against the Jews, who denied their Messiah and resisted him; and which, because of its importance, we quote completely here:

“Verse 33. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers! How can ye escape the damnation of hell? 34. Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men and scribes: some of them ye shall kill and crucify, and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city. 36. That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zechariah son of Barachiah, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 36. Verily I say unto you: All these things shall come upon this generation. 37. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!”39












Jesus christ was anti jew and I'm on his side.


Can you show me why you think that?

Any evidence of that in the Bible at all??

and for those of you that say Jesus wasn't a Jew, What does this verse mean?

King James Bible (John 1:11)
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

Who were "his own" that received him not?


Im wondering why Tumbleweed came and went with out replying .....??

Hopefully is is trying to find some proof of his statement. and will come back with some sort of answer to my question.

Any one else want to tell and show me why they think Jesus didn't like Jews?

StackerKen
29th July 2010, 07:12 PM
Thanks for your reply Tumbleweed. I understand what you mean about work and all.
I should have been more patient in waiting for your reply.

Now I'm not expert on these things
But
I am familiar with those verses. Jesus was talking to the Jewish Religious Leaders and yes he was not happy with them at all.

But you said
Jesus christ was anti jew
and Im pretty sure he was just "anti Jewish Religious Leaders" not "anti Jew"

Lets look at the last line in your post

37. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!”

Why would he want to gather then like a hen gathers her chicks if he hated them?

And you must remember Saul of Tarsus was a Jewish Religious Leader and Jesus chose him.

and I'm thinking(not sure) that many of Jesus's disciples were Jews when he chose them.

And was Lazarus a Jew? I Know Jesus Loved Lazarus

Yes Jesus was God...But He was also a Man....
I think that man was Born of a Jew (Mary) and His Half Brother, James was Probably a Jew and His Sept Dad Was probably a Jew also.

Also while Jesus hung on the cross he said ""Father, forgive them, for they don't know what they are doing"

It appears that Jesus forgave the Jews that put him to death

The Jew that reject Jesus as messiah will get what God has planed for them.

But Peter denied Jesus 3 times and Jesus still loved him.

Folks Don't get me wrong.....Im talking about Biblical times....

I have No way of knowing who is a Real Jew and who isn't Today...Even if I did, I would not know what to do about it.

I am Not a "Zionist"
I don't even know for sure what the anti Zionist's on this board consider a Zionist is.

I think it means people that want the temple rebuilt? and I don't care bout that.

For some reason (not even sure why)

I just felt I need to say this stuff. :)

Buddha
29th July 2010, 09:23 PM
I don't even know for sure what the anti Zionist's on this board consider a Zionist is.


That's why I started this thread. http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/israel-zionism/ but not many care to discuss exactly what it is. It's easier to hate what one does not understand*



* I am no Zionist

Phoenix
29th July 2010, 11:03 PM
Jesus christ was anti jew and I'm on his side.


Can you show me why you think that?

Any evidence of that in the Bible at all??


"Ye are of your father the Devil" (John 8:44) isn't "anti-Semitic"?




and for those of you that say Jesus wasn't a Jew, What does this verse mean?

King James Bible (John 1:11)
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

Who were "his own" that received him not?


It means you are erring in assuming that the term "Jew" in the English translations of the Bible refers to modern "Jews" of Khazar origin who worship the Talmud.

The correct word is "Judean."

Phoenix
29th July 2010, 11:05 PM
When Jesus is accused of something that isn't true....he doesn't bother to defend himself...no need to.


Jesus didn't correct this statement, either: "And all the people answered and said, His blood be on us, and on our children."

Tumbleweed
30th July 2010, 05:50 AM
I don't think I've ever said Jesus "Hated" the Jews. I've said he was "anti Jew" and I believe there is a differance. God wanted the Jews to keep his commandments but they wouldn't for very long. He walked among them as Jesus and they had him beat to death.

The Jews still teach their children that Jesus wasn't God and turn them against him. God is just and if we break his commandments we should expect justice. God is also merciful but justice and mercy seem to contradict each other. God walked the earth as Jesus and alowed himself to be beaten to death even though he was with out sin. If we see the error of out ways when we have sinned and ask for mercy and forgiveness God can be both just and merciful because he has taken already for no sin of his own the beating that we deserve. Unless the Jews accept Jesus as God and repent of their sins they will recieve justice.

Ken again I will quote some verses I did before and I believe the answer to your doubts is here. God would gather the Jews to him if they would keep his commandments and accept Jesus as God. But they have denyed him and turned against him. They teach their children to do the same.

Verse 33. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers! How can ye escape the damnation of hell? 34. Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men and scribes: some of them ye shall kill and crucify, and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city. 36. That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zechariah son of Barachiah, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 36. Verily I say unto you: All these things shall come upon this generation. 37. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!”39

The last four words in this quote are why I say Jesus is anti Jew. They won't keep his commandements and have turned against him.

I don't think god expects us to turn a blind eye to evil but to fight against it here on earth. We need to stand up and protect our families and loved ones from those who have chosen Satan as their God.

Awoke
30th July 2010, 09:52 AM
That's why I started this thread. http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/israel-zionism/ but not many care to discuss exactly what it is. It's easier to hate what one does not understand*



* I am no Zionist





Don't assume that because there was a lack of participation in your thread, the people here don't understand what zionism is. I think you would be safer to assume that the people who understand zionism don't see the need to re-iterate all the facts, knowledge and information in your thread, because the jew comes into discussion in almost any thread which has anything to do with the conspiracy.

Why do you think I would want to go and re-post all my posts from all these thread into one specific thread?
That's a lot of work.

Plus, zionism exists without borders and seemingly without limitations, in that is touches every aspect of every thing.

Therefore I personally see no reason to cage the information about zionism into a single thread, or even a single sub-forum, as many philo-semetic ADL agents have suggested over the years.

But to lay it out in the open, I personally believe that almost every jew is a zionist, period.
There are a few who have never heard of the term and don't know what it means, maybe.
There are a few who fight it, but not many, and due to their constant tactics of playing both sides off against each other throughout history, I seriously question the motives behind any anti-zionist jew.

After the years of research that I have done on the conspiracy, leading into my discovery of the hebrew hand in every part of it, I am left with this; When I see a jew, I see a zionist.

They are one and the same to me.

EDITED because of major typos due to hasty posting.

StackerKen
31st July 2010, 10:17 AM
Thank you Tumbleweed for taking the time to explain your veiws on that

I see what you mean.

Buddha
31st July 2010, 07:26 PM
That's why I started this thread. http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/israel-zionism/ but not many care to discuss exactly what it is. It's easier to hate what one does not understand*



* I am no Zionist





Don't assume that becuase there was a lack of participation in your thread, the people here don't understand what zionism is. I think you would be safer to assuem that the people who understand zionism don't see the need to re-iterate all the facts, knowledge and information in your thread, becuase the jew comes into discussion in almost any thread which has anything to do with the conspiracy.

Why do you think i would want to go and re-post all my posts from all these thread into one specific thread?
That's a lot of work.

Plus, zionism exists without borders and seemingly without limitations, in that is touches every aspect of every thing.

Therefore I personally see no reason to cage the information about zionism into a single thread, or even a single sub-forum, as many philo-semetic ALD agents have suggested over the years.

But to lay it out in the open, I personally believe that almost every jew is a zionist, period.
There are a few who have never heard of the term and don't know what it means, maybe.
There are a few who fight it, but not many, and due to their constant tactics of playing both sides off against each other throughout history, I seriously question the motives behind any anti-zionist jew.

After the years of research that I have done on the conspiracy, leading into my discovery of the hebrew hand in every part of it, I am left with this; When I see a jew, I see a zionist.

They are one and the same to me.



And when I see a Western I see an ignorant, foolish, socialist, authoritarian. Get what I mean?

Twisted Titan
1st August 2010, 01:47 PM
He shouldnt have to apologize.........

Everbody "in the know" realizes its The Arabs that Control Hollywood. ;D


T


And now I have the proof!!!

They have to own it because they own all the gold!!!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkb_ykilflU&feature=player_embedded

Olmstein
1st August 2010, 06:51 PM
I've posted this (http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19) before, and I'm posting it again in case you missed it.

Kind of a fucked up world when Oliver Stone has to apologize for the truth.


Who runs Hollywood? C'mon
December 19, 2008|JOEL STEIN

I have never been so upset by a poll in my life. Only 22% of Americans now believe "the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews," down from nearly 50% in 1964. The Anti-Defamation League, which released the poll results last month, sees in these numbers a victory against stereotyping. Actually, it just shows how dumb America has gotten. Jews totally run Hollywood.

How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah.

The person they were yelling at in that ad was SAG President Alan Rosenberg (take a guess). The scathing rebuttal to the ad was written by entertainment super-agent Ari Emanuel (Jew with Israeli parents) on the Huffington Post, which is owned by Arianna Huffington (not Jewish and has never worked in Hollywood.)

The Jews are so dominant, I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies. When I called them to talk about their incredible advancement, five of them refused to talk to me, apparently out of fear of insulting Jews. The sixth, AMC President Charlie Collier, turned out to be Jewish.

As a proud Jew, I want America to know about our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood. Without us, you'd be flipping between "The 700 Club" and "Davey and Goliath" on TV all day.

So I've taken it upon myself to re-convince America that Jews run Hollywood by launching a public relations campaign, because that's what we do best. I'm weighing several slogans, including: "Hollywood: More Jewish than ever!"; "Hollywood: From the people who brought you the Bible"; and "Hollywood: If you enjoy TV and movies, then you probably like Jews after all."

Awoke
3rd August 2010, 04:34 AM
And when I see a Western I see an ignorant, foolish, socialist, authoritarian. Get what I mean?


Well, that may be so. However, no matter how hard you look at the "westerners", you will not find them engaged in the conspiracy as prolifically as the jew. Period.

EE_
3rd August 2010, 05:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXQGyG2Ahos