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Olmstein
1st August 2010, 07:25 PM
Another 3 deaths (1 cop and 2 civilians) due to prohibition.

Your tax dollars (if you pay taxes), at work.


Officers in shootout were trying to sell pot

Chandler police detectives were selling 500 pounds of marijuana in an operation called a "reversal'' when they became the victims of a botched drug rip-off in south Phoenix, according to court records released Friday.

Two defendants in the fatal shooting of Detective Carlos Ledesma, 34, identified in the documents as Thadika Singleton and John Howard Webber III, showed police $250,000, demonstrating they had the cash to buy the pot. They showed the money during a meeting with undercover agents at a fast food restaurant at 19th Avenue and Broadway Road in Phoenix.

Later, in a parking lot at 19th Avenue and Baseline Road, police showed the suspects a sample of the marijuana as part of arrangements to make the sale later Wednesday afternoon at a house in south Phoenix, according to documents prepared by Phoenix police.

As four undercover detectives and an informant arrived at the house, two officers drove an unmarked vehicle loaded with marijuana into a garage of a house in the 2300 block of W. Maldonado Ave. Soon, shots rang out inside the house, killing Ledesma and injuring two other detectives.

Chandler and Phoenix police both confirmed the scenario as efforts were underway to plan Ledesma's funeral.

Sgt. Joe Favazzo, a Chandler police spokesman, said the undercover operation did not involve a traditional exchange where dealers sell drugs to undercover agents. In this case, the undercover officers had the drugs and the suspects had the cash.

"This is a reversal,'' he said. "This is seized evidentiary marijuana.''

Neither Favazzo nor his Phoenix police counterpart, Sgt. Steve Martos, could say why the Chandler detectives were attempting to sell the marijuana to buyers in southwest Phoenix. Charles Fulton, 34, owner of the house where the shooting took place, said he knows Singleton, 38, and Webber, 37, from DJ's Gentleman's Club, a strip club Fulton runs on University Drive in Phoenix.

Fulton described Singleton and Webber as "big teddy bears'' and doubted either was experienced in drug deals.

"They're not thugs, they're not drug dealers,'' Fulton said. "I've never seen them smoke weed or ever get upset.''

An Arizona Department of Corrections spokesman said Webber was on parole from a conviction in Kentucky.

Quincy Manning, a manager at the strip-club, said Webber was known as "Fat Cat'' and also said that he had been released from prison in Kentucky.

A John Webber who was born the same month and year as John Howard Webber had been serving a 15-year sentence at the Eastern Kentucky Correctional Complex for trafficking in marijuana, Kentucky Department of Corrections show.

Manning said he knew Singleton as a master of ceremonies at various hip-hop shows and nightclubs and at such venues as America West Arena and Celebrity Theatre, in addition to interviewing national hip-hop artists on local radio programs.

"They're good people, or so I thought,'' Manning said.

The botched drug rip-off on Wednesday evening also left two suspects dead and another hospitalized, while five others were arrested on charges ranging from first-degree murder to possession of marijuana with intent to distribute.

One of the dead was identified Friday as Markiese Royalty. The second suspect killed in the shootout has not been identified by Phoenix police.

In addition to Singleton and Webber, the suspects in custody were identified as Jerry Cockhearn III, 34, Doarnell Jackson, 35, and Eldridge Gittens, 34. Royalty was believed to be 26 and Cockhearn's cousin. Bond was set at $3 million for each suspect.

Jackson, Webber and Cockhearn all have criminal records.

Jackson was accused in December 2001 of forcing his way into his ex-girlfriend's apartment, pointing a handgun at her and punching and choking her, according to Maricopa County Superior Court records. He eventually was placed on probation for disorderly conduct after the victim did not cooperate with prosecutors.

When Jackson violated his probation, he served a year in the Arizona Department of Corrections and was released in January 2006.

Cockhearn was placed on probation for four years in 2005 for armed robbery after he and another defendant was accused of point at gun at two men in Scottsdale and demanding that they hand over their belongings, according to Superior Court records.

Link (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/07/30/20100730chandler-officers-shootout-tried-to-sell-pot.html)

Fortyone
1st August 2010, 07:31 PM
obviously they missed scarface................ :-\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiT_Zvni8V8

BrewTech
1st August 2010, 07:56 PM
Cops getting killed trying to enforce prohibition of a natural plant that, I would venture to say, most people have NO PROBLEM with.

Somehow I doubt this incident will provoke a (positive) change in policy, however.

Libertarian_Guard
1st August 2010, 08:21 PM
As someone else so accurately said (either here or @ the old GIM, and it may have been Hoarder, I don't remember) - - If someone had said, back in 1960 something, that marijuana would still be illegal in 2010, they would have been laughed at and thought of as crazy!

It is pathetic that marijuana is still criminal. But this is the world we live in.

Ares
1st August 2010, 08:26 PM
It is pathetic that marijuana is still criminal. But this is the world we live in.

Government has to fund its black budget projects some how.

Only reason prohibition is still in place, in my opinion. Government profits from it.

Olmstein
1st August 2010, 08:28 PM
It is pathetic that marijuana is still criminal. But this is the world we live in.

Government has to fund its black budget projects some how.

Only reason prohibition is still in place, in my opinion. Government profits from it.


QFT.

If this sting had gone down as planned, the Chandler Police would have the weed and the money to do with as they pleased.

Fudup
1st August 2010, 08:30 PM
Had the sale gone through, they would have arrested the buyers and kept the money?

Tables turned?

???

Libertarian_Guard
1st August 2010, 08:32 PM
It is pathetic that marijuana is still criminal. But this is the world we live in.

Government has to fund its black budget projects some how.

Only reason prohibition is still in place, in my opinion. Government profits from it.


There are a lot of 'do good-ers' that can't leave well enough alone and must enforce their morals upon others.

willie pete
1st August 2010, 08:39 PM
Why don't they put their efforts towards more important things like illegal immigration?

BrewTech
1st August 2010, 09:27 PM
Why don't they put their efforts towards more important things like illegal immigration?


Because both drug prohibition and illegal immigration are very profitable ventures for a select group.

If it's working for you, why stop?

Illegal immigration and drug trafficking go hand-in-hand, do they not?

Phoenix
1st August 2010, 09:32 PM
As someone else so accurately said (either here or @ the old GIM, and it may have been Hoarder, I don't remember) - - If someone had said, back in 1960 something, that marijuana would still be illegal in 2010, they would have been laughed at and thought of as crazy!

It is pathetic that marijuana is still criminal. But this is the world we live in.


If stoners just declared themselves "freemen on the land" and filed the "right" documents, the DEA and cops would leave them all alone!

::)

Joe King
1st August 2010, 09:48 PM
As someone else so accurately said (either here or @ the old GIM, and it may have been Hoarder, I don't remember) - - If someone had said, back in 1960 something, that marijuana would still be illegal in 2010, they would have been laughed at and thought of as crazy!

It is pathetic that marijuana is still criminal. But this is the world we live in.


If stoners just declared themselves "freemen on the land" and filed the "right" documents, the DEA and cops would leave them all alone!

::)
Or, if all them hippies back in the 60's had simply gone along to get along and stopped smokin' the devils weed when told to the first time, it wouldn't even be an issue and today that cop could still be out writing traffic tickets somewhere generating revenue for the City.

willie pete
1st August 2010, 09:53 PM
Why don't they put their efforts towards more important things like illegal immigration?


Because both drug prohibition and illegal immigration are very profitable ventures for a select group.

If it's working for you, why stop?

Illegal immigration and drug trafficking go hand-in-hand, do they not?

Yea, sure they do, it'd probably mean their PD would get cut out of a lot of $$$'s

Libertarian_Guard
1st August 2010, 10:26 PM
“If stoners just declared themselves "freemen on the land" and filed the "right" documents, the DEA and cops would leave them all alone!”

“Or, if all them hippies back in the 60's had simply gone along to get along and stopped smokin' the devils weed when told to the first time, it wouldn't even be an issue and today that cop could still be out writing traffic tickets somewhere generating revenue for the City.”

Phoenix & Joe King - - you two seem like the type that get excited when you think you're getting close, but since you're doing little more than catching a whiff, it might be best to roll over and forget about it.


http://i25.tinypic.com/20prpue.jpg

Joe King
1st August 2010, 10:56 PM
“If stoners just declared themselves "freemen on the land" and filed the "right" documents, the DEA and cops would leave them all alone!”

“Or, if all them hippies back in the 60's had simply gone along to get along and stopped smokin' the devils weed when told to the first time, it wouldn't even be an issue and today that cop could still be out writing traffic tickets somewhere generating revenue for the City.”
Phoenix & Joe King - - you two seem like the type that get excited when you think you're getting close, but since you're doing little more than catching a whiff, it might be best to roll over and forget about it.
http://i25.tinypic.com/20prpue.jpg

Sorry. I was just poking a lil' fun at Phoenix with his "go along to get along" mantra on everything. lol
Figured it applied to everything.
Guess I should've used the sarcasm tag.
The way I see it is if everyone just went along to get along and never questioned anything, the World would be a lot worse off.
Thank God for the small % who aren't zombies and question enough to slow the whole thing down some. Whatever it be they're questioning.
BTW, nice pic! :)