zio-shill Devvy Kidd- Scary Moozlemism: A cancer oozing across America

[PatColo]

http://devvy.com/new_graphics/devvy_kidd_constitutionally_speaking.png

I've never particularly followed Devvy Kidd's work (http://devvy.com/), just seen her name kicking around "truth/patriot" sites over the years, and she now hosts a radio show currently on the Rense network.

These 2 recent Devvy Kidd articles just came to my attention:

07/19/10 � Islam: A cancer oozing across America (http://devvy.com/new_site/islam_071910.html)

07/26/10 � We must stop the drive for Sharia Law in America (http://devvy.com/new_site/sharia_law_072610.html)


These 'scary moozlems booga booga' pieces which "out" Devvy Kidd as a zio-shill by misdirecting readers' scrutiny away from The Elephant in the Room (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-zionist-elephant-in-the-room/msg2940/#msg2940) and their Talmudic law takeover, and towards their designated fake-enemy-du-jour, were discussed in this "The Ugly Truth" podcast,

The Ugly Truth Podcast August 3, 2010 (http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/2010/08/02/the-ugly-truth-podcast-august-3-2010/)

The enemy within–Mark Dankof and former Green Beret captain Joe Cortina join the discussion concerning the latest inane ‘articles’ written by Devvy Kidd pinpointing ‘Islam’ as the real threat to America.

Direct download MP3 (http://www.podbean.com/podcast-download?b=202198&f=http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/mf/web/pyems/UT03AUG2010DankoCortinaMP3.mp3)


Scary-Moozlemism's prohibition against USURY (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/09/MN2D15J4HD.DTL&tsp=1) has really earned them the wrath of the Global Usury Empire! :oo-->

[gunDriller]

'scary moozlems booga booga'

that sums up their message pretty damn well.

[learn2swim]

You think Muslims are your friends? So you want to live under Sharia law? Don't say that's not the case because it's happening in Europe..

[DMac]

You think Muslims are your friends? So you want to live under Sharia law? Don't say that's not the case because it's happening in Europe..


Where are non-Muslims being forced to adopt Sharia law in Europe?

[I am me, I am free]

You think Muslims are your friends? So you want to live under Sharia law? Don't say that's not the case because it's happening in Europe..


I'm certainly not in favor of Sharia law (except for their own nations/cultures as their own people wish under the God-given right of self-determination), however imo this boogey-man is just a created diversion to keep everyone's eye off 'the ball' which is usury by the money powers/death cult and their manipulation of everything else - the food supply, energy, Big Pharma/health 'care', politics, propaganda, etc., etc.

[PatColo]

You think Muslims are your friends? So you want to live under Sharia law? Don't say that's not the case because it's happening in Europe..


You think your Zionist overlords (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-zionist-elephant-in-the-room/msg2940/#msg2940) are your friends? So you want to continue living under Talmudic law? (http://www.rense.com/general21/tal.htm) Don't say that's not the case because it's already happened in America.. :oo-->

http://images.politico.com/global/click/091119_hanukkah_ap_392_regular.jpghttp://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/rahmemanuel.jpg

Seen all the banks & synagogues near ground zero lately? ???

[Still Barbaro]

Thanks for the OP and links to the "Aisha Story" Pat Colo. The more people become aware the better.

Below is a link to all of the chapters (suras) in the Quran. You can click on any chapter and read any vers and see an interpretation and criticism.

This link also has the Christian Old and New Testament and the Book of Mormon.

Very interesting:

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm

[Phoenix]

Islam is a cancer. It just doesn't kill as fast as the cancer of Judaism.

[PatColo]

The Ugly Truth Podcast–Special Edition 07Aug10 (http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/2010/08/07/the-ugly-truth-podcast-special-edition/)

Today’s program features an exclusive interview with Dr Terry Jones, pastor of the infamous Dove World Outreach Center in Gainsville, Florida that is planning to have a ‘Burn a Koran Day’ this upcoming September 11th. Listen as we are joined by special guest Nashid Abdul Khaaliq, of http://ascertainthetruth.com, an African American convert to Islam along with regular co-host of the Ugly Truth Mark Dankof of http://markdankof.com. A MUST HEAR PROGRAM.

Addition link of interest here (http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=270:who-did-911-obl-bush-or-mossad-the-evidences&catid=58:the-911-event&Itemid=115)

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I've stated my opinions on Islam before, and I'll do so again here, briefly.

Individual muslims are often good people, but their societies tend towards repression and ugliness. I have tried to figure out why this is.

The way I see it is that when Muslims are in the minority somewhere, they're quite pleasant. I grew up with exactly 1 muslim friend, and his family was kind and gentle. They fit in well in America and I really don't see how anybody could complain about this particular family?

But in groups, Muslims tend towards insanity. This isn't even unique to muslims. I think groups, in general, make people insane. Ever see that movie, "The Core"? Get the smartest scientists in the world together, put them in a group, they're instantly idiotic.


Overall, I think a society that is dominantly muslim is not one I can live in. However, when they are the strong minority, I find them to generally be reverent and respectful, in a lot of cases. Therefore, I conclude that the issue has more to do with the inherant failings of groupthink in the human mind.

That being said, as I study all religions for information gathering purposes, I have found very little useful to me from the koran. It just is that way, no offence meant to anybody.

[illumin19]

But in groups, Muslims tend towards insanity. This isn't even unique to muslims. I think groups, in general, make people insane. Ever see that movie, "The Core"? Get the smartest scientists in the world together, put them in a group, they're instantly idiotic.

Overall, I think a society that is dominantly muslim is not one I can live in. However, when they are the strong minority, I find them to generally be reverent and respectful, in a lot of cases. Therefore, I conclude that the issue has more to do with the inherant failings of groupthink in the human mind.

To add to your thoughts very briefly......I think much of the "islamic world" is in their dark ages much like the "christian world" went thru there's in Europe.
Whenever a nation/people feel powerless (and they have themselves to blame) I think the worst comes out of them whatever ideology/creed they may adhere too.

But what do I know......

[PatColo]

Whenever a nation/people feel powerless (and they have themselves to blame) I think the worst comes out of them whatever ideology/creed they may adhere too.

http://mondoweiss.net/images/2010/05/settlers.jpg

[illumin19]

Whenever a nation/people feel powerless (and they have themselves to blame) I think the worst comes out of them whatever ideology/creed they may adhere too.

http://mondoweiss.net/images/2010/05/settlers.jpg

A picture is worth a thousand words........

A picture as a reply is worth.......

[Phoenix]

My pictures are worth 10,000 words.

THIS is Islam.

(execution by stoning victims are partially buried before the act)

[Phoenix]

FU*K ISLAM, and fu*k all Islamic shills.

"There is no whore but Allah, and Muhammed is her pimp."

[Phoenix]

THIS is Islam:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fd/Destruction_of_Buddhas_March_21_2001.jpg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhas_of_Bamyan

Beautiful, giant, hand-carved, nearly 1800-year old Buddha statutes in Afghanistan, destroyed by Muslim fanatics following the letter of the unholy Quran.

Before Islam took over Afghanistan, that land was Buddhist.

This is what Muslims will do in declining Christian lands, correlated to their increasing power. We've already lost Christmas to Jew and Muslim fanatics who were "offended."

[wildcard]

When your house is about to collapse from termites, you don't ignore them to wipe out the cockroaches.

[Phoenix]

When your house is about to collapse from termites, you don't ignore them to wipe out the cockroaches.


Our house has already collapsed, and the Jewish rats, infected with rabies, and the Muslim mice, infected with cholera, are swarming over the wreckage.

I say we deal with both.

[wildcard]

Stop the jew and you will stop the open border flood of brown immigrants.

[illumin19]

FU*K ISLAM, and fu*k all Islamic shills.

"There is no whore but Allah, and Muhammed is her pimp."


Nice, a little angry are we.
How's the heart?

[kregener]

If you really feel this way about Devvy, then you have already drunk the Kool-Aid...

[Phoenix]

FU*K ISLAM, and fu*k all Islamic shills.

"There is no whore but Allah, and Muhammed is her pimp."


Nice, a little angry are we.
How's the heart?


How's the "sacred" meteorite?

[Fortyone]

Its one thing to say the ZIonists were behind 9/11, which I agree +100,but anyone who doesnt believe Islam is a danger to the West is kinda thick IMHO.How can some people sit there and promote "White preservation" and "Christian" while endorsing Muslims?Oh thats right they hate Israel, so they must be good! Pretty lame thought process. or are the Immams sending you checks?

[woodman]

I've never found Devvy to be off target. She is an energetic and intelligent proponent of freedom against tyranny. She has done much to expose the Zionist terrorism we all live under. I did not read the article but she is probably right on target as usual.

I remember a thread I started on the old GIM where I was asking how to get rid of a pesky ant mound in my flower bed. One of the replies was that I should dig up a shovel full of ants from a different mound (different type of ants) and let them wreck havoc upon the undesirables. I replied that this tactic was exactly what was being employed by the international bankers (Zionists) who rule our world. Through immigration they are steadily eroding our society. It will speed up and in the chaos they always tighten their grip.

I will serve them very well in the end. They have no problem at all with Islam. After all, they don't want to share a religion with the masses. They already have their own and Islam is the perfect vehicle to bring about a societal regression. It will perfectly establish them as a super-class impervious to upstart rebellions and movements that might topple them. There will be no questioning the established order under the iron hand of the Koran and it's teachers.

It is true as stated in a post above by illumin19 that religions tend toward pleomorphism but as far as Islam is concerned I believe it will pull society into a prolonged dark age, stifling free thought forever. The Koran is the Borg. Submit.

[Still Barbaro]

Here is a background on specific Quran Suras and verses about marrying children.

I found this on a google search after reading the OP and finding the "Aisha" article.


YOUTUBE: zTD5QLelyM0
zTD5QLelyM0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTD5QLelyM0&feature=player_embedded#!

P.S. - how do you embed here? Thanks.

[wildcard]

It is the jew's immigration reforms that allow the muzlims to come to America in an unchecked flood, just like they have done in the European nations.

It is the jews that are controlling our foreign policy and state department that import whole communities of muzlims to America and transplant them into white majority areas.

There is good fishing in troubled waters.

http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2007/12/23/somalis-swarm-to-shelbyville-tn/

[Phoenix]

I've never found Devvy to be off target. She is an energetic and intelligent proponent of freedom against tyranny. She has done much to expose the Zionist terrorism we all live under.


Devvy Kidd did more to expose Israel with the below article than towelhead apologist PatColo can ever hope to do with his lame postings here.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd162.htm

[I am me, I am free]

Here is a background on specific Quran Suras and verses about marrying children.

I found this on a google search after reading the OP and finding the "Aisha" article.


YOUTUBE: zTD5QLelyM0
zTD5QLelyM0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTD5QLelyM0&feature=player_embedded#!

P.S. - how do you embed here? Thanks.


The age of consent (as in no need to be married to be 'legal') in many parts of Mexico is 12, so your point is...?

[PatColo]

I say we deal with both.




You go "deal with" them scary moozlems then Phoenix, yeee haaaaw!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/154/334470993_e0f84d2516.jpg

[Still Barbaro]

^ My point is:

a 6 year old *and* a 12 year old is not mature enough psychologcally and in many cases physically to marry a 53 year old man.

Obviously it's not the girls choice, and she is "given" to a man to marry.

As for Mexico, I cannot compare the Quran to Mexican culture and law (I have no opinion) nor can a compare the child marriages in Yemen and Afghanistan to Mexico.

[wildcard]

I've never found Devvy to be off target. She is an energetic and intelligent proponent of freedom against tyranny. She has done much to expose the Zionist terrorism we all live under.


Devvy Kidd did more to expose Israel with the below article than towelhead apologist PatColo can ever hope to do with his lame postings here.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd162.htm


I think this is a bit out of line. I have never seen PC apologizing for anything that arabs/muslims have done. He simply exposes the jew hypocrisy. By using their own techniques, he can create conflict in the minds of the brainwashed by tugging on their heartstrings. Seeing images of the genocide carried out by the jews, the sheeple must burn mental energy to ignore it or bury it...or come face to face with the truth. I hope you will retract this.

[Phoenix]

I've never found Devvy to be off target. She is an energetic and intelligent proponent of freedom against tyranny. She has done much to expose the Zionist terrorism we all live under.


Devvy Kidd did more to expose Israel with the below article than towelhead apologist PatColo can ever hope to do with his lame postings here.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd162.htm


I think this is a bit out of line. I have never seen PC apologizing for anything that arabs/muslims have done. He simply exposes the jew hypocrisy. By using their own techniques, he can create conflict in the minds of the brainwashed by tugging on their heartstrings. Seeing images of the genocide carried out by the jews, the sheeple must burn mental energy to ignore it or bury it...or come face to face with the truth. I hope you will retract this.


I will not. He has demonstrated that he is not interested in the Truth, but in making Jews look bad. We all know the Jews are bad. What people don't want to face is that Muslims aren't much behind. His cheap-ass hatchet job on Devvy brought down my axe on his head...just like a Muslim to disrespect a good woman like her.

Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski didn't have to stop a horde of Jews.

[wildcard]

Yeah, we know. Others don't or are still on the fence. Tearing down PC profits us nothing.

[Phoenix]

I say we deal with both.



[center]You go "deal with" them scary moozlems then Phoenix, yeee haaaaw!



No one is endorsing war for Israel, least of all, me.

It's absolutely clear you are a towelhead yourself, "Pat."

Do you face Mecca seven times daily? How often have you participated in Hajj to worship the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Stone">"Sacred" Meteorite</a>?

I hope you don't think you're fooling all of us with your propaganda. We all know that 9/11 was a Zionist operation. What many of us here apparently don't realize is that your "alternative" to Zionism - Islam - is only slight less bad. The "brave Mujahideen" of Beslan or the Moscow theater are an example of what we all face as towelheads increase in numbers in Aryan lands.

[Phoenix]

Yeah, we know. Others don't or are still on the fence. Tearing down PC profits us nothing.


Wildcard, it actually pains me to have to be at odds with you on this issue...any issue.

I can't stomach PatColo's propaganda any longer, painting Jews as a monstrous threat, which they are, while apologizing for "saintly Muslims" at every opportunity. The towelheads ARE scary. While the Jews use precision terrorism, the Muslims have used crude, cold-blooded terror for centuries. Refusing to boldly acknowledge this fact does not serve Truth or our race.

He provoked this fight with a low-down, cheap shot at Devvy Kidd. She knows the score, as do I, that Jews AND Muslims are bad news for our civilization.

[wildcard]

You aren't taking into account the average joe is quite a few IQ points beneath you. They buy into bumper stickers that say "nuke their ass and take the gas."

I do not wish to see the Persians wiped off the map to appease israel. I do not wish to bring them all to the safety of America either. As long as they stay over there and practice their culture and religion in their own lands without threatening to take over mine, then we'll get along. The jews, however, are here now dominating our culture and wiping out our religion.

[Phoenix]

I do not wish to see the Persians wiped off the map to appease israel.


Of course, I agree.




As long as they stay over there and practice their culture and religion in their own lands without threatening to take over mine, then we'll get along.


That's the problem, they are here, and getting stronger by the day. Cunning Jews or savage Muslims, what a choice! :puke

[wildcard]

You're right to say neither are our friends, but I don't see PC saying that the muslims are our pals. Just showing how the jews denigrate them at every chance to gain Christian support for their slaughter. I don't read every thread though.

[Fortyone]

You aren't taking into account the average joe is quite a few IQ points beneath you. They buy into bumper stickers that say "nuke their ass and take the gas."

I do not wish to see the Persians wiped off the map to appease israel. I do not wish to bring them all to the safety of America either. As long as they stay over there and practice their culture and religion in their own lands without threatening to take over mine, then we'll get along. The jews, however, are here now dominating our culture and wiping out our religion.


I concur with you and Phoenix. I absolutely want no war with Iran because of Israel, But please acknowledge the fact that Islam is an enemy of the west.They do not stay in their own lands,They are spreading through the west at an alarming rate. Zionists have already accomplished this. Do we trade one for the other?

[wildcard]

Of course not, but it's as silly as saying Arabs run hollywood. They have no real power here and the jews know it or they would shut down their ability to immigrate. Stop the jew and the other problems go away.

[Fortyone]

You're right to say neither are our friends, but I don't see PC saying that the muslims are our pals. Just showing how the jews denigrate them at every chance to gain Christian support for their slaughter. I don't read every thread though.


I dont have a problem with PC at all.His info is good. What I have trouble with is the way its presented.Scary MOOZLEMS isa term that is used to make the reader feel stupid if he sees a threat from Islam (which there is).Pointing out Zionists are the actual responsible party should be the message,not ridiculing those who dont trust Muslims. Scary MOOZLEMS do exist. anyone here that attempts defend the Taliban's or Saudi Arabia's judicial system as ok ,or the Chechen actions in Russia are nuts!

[wildcard]

Just as nuts as us trying to impose our culture and will on sovereign nations that pose no risk to us halfway around the globe? Self determination.

[illumin19]

FU*K ISLAM, and fu*k all Islamic shills.

"There is no whore but Allah, and Muhammed is her pimp."


Nice, a little angry are we.
How's the heart?


How's the "sacred" meteorite?


Ah yes, I heard of something like that before.

Have you rallyed the troops yet?

[wildcard]

How many of your people were killed by whitey last year? Don't talk shit, it doesn't help your side.

[I am me, I am free]

It's fascinating to wake the 'awoken'/'aware' (those who should really know better) get sucked so far into the dialectics created by the tribe.

[illumin19]

"Whitey" hardly did anything it's a conglomerate of too many ethnicities to count. Muslims are "whitey" also :-*


Some day you may witness your family be "my side". :o How scary right?

It's not "my side."

[Fortyone]

Just as nuts as us trying to impose our culture and will on sovereign nations that pose no risk to us halfway around the globe? Self determination.


I concur,But you dont see whites moving in droves to the ME,right? Chechen savages attacking Russian schoolchildren isnt live and let live either.

[wildcard]

Just as nuts as us trying to impose our culture and will on sovereign nations that pose no risk to us halfway around the globe? Self determination.


I concur,But you dont see whites moving in droves to the ME,right? Chechen savages attacking Russian schoolchildren isnt live and let live either.


When predator strikes start killing your kids you might feel differently.

[Phoenix]

They have no real power here and the jews know it or they would shut down their ability to immigrate. Stop the jew and the other problems go away.


The Jews are using the Muslims against us. Talmudism and Islam are both anti-Christ abominations that share roots in Middle Eastern occult mysticism. Some of the same outrages exist in both the Talmud and the Quran.

Muslim influence in America is so great their holidays get governmentally-recognized, and they even got their damnable Eid stamp printed. If we could displace AIPAC, we'd have the CAIR freaks to content with.

Islam has been a problem for centuries before the Khazars converted to Talmudism. One does not discount one vermin infected with cholera because another vermin infected with rabies is currently more influential.

[Phoenix]

Just as nuts as us trying to impose our culture and will on sovereign nations that pose no risk to us halfway around the globe? Self determination.


The Washington Criminals do the bidding of the Jews. The fight in the Middle East has been brought to our shores in the form of Zionist control of the government and our military. But whether it's right or wrong is not the point. The Muslims view all Americans and all Europeans as infidels in need of vengeance now. It's like when a bully starts shit with a gang in front of your house, and then the gang targets your house because they think he's part of your household. We're targets now, and both the Jews and the Muslims need to go.

[Fortyone]

Just as nuts as us trying to impose our culture and will on sovereign nations that pose no risk to us halfway around the globe? Self determination.


I concur,But you dont see whites moving in droves to the ME,right? Chechen savages attacking Russian schoolchildren isnt live and let live either.


When predator strikes start killing your kids you might feel differently.



Russia doesnt use Predator drones.Russians dont hold children hostage with TNT either.The Influx into Europe was inititated by the Zionists years ago,the current immigrants are from some of the areas affected by the wars,but not all.

[Phoenix]

FU*K ISLAM, and fu*k all Islamic shills.

"There is no whore but Allah, and Muhammed is her pimp."


Nice, a little angry are we.
How's the heart?


How's the "sacred" meteorite?


Ah yes, I heard of something like that before.

Have you rallyed the troops yet?


Are you denying that Muslims engage in Hajj (pilgrimage to Mecca) to worship a meteorite called the Kaaba Stone?

What sort of freak religion worships a rock?

<a href="http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS330US330&q=kaaba%20stone&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1440&bih=706">Google Images of Muslims worshiping a rock</a>

[Phoenix]

I concur,But you dont see whites moving in droves to the ME,right? Chechen savages attacking Russian schoolchildren isnt live and let live either.


When predator strikes start killing your kids you might feel differently.


Predator drones aren't attacking Chechnya.

[Phoenix]

The Influx into Europe was inititated by the Zionists years ago,the current immigrants are from some of the areas affected by the wars,but not all.


The Islamic Invasion of Europe began only a few decades after Muhammed puked out the unholy Quran.

Centuries before the Khazars became phony "Jews," and over a millennia before the first "Zionist," Islam had to be stopped with FORCE (in 732 AD):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martel

[wildcard]

They have no real power here and the jews know it or they would shut down their ability to immigrate. Stop the jew and the other problems go away.


The Jews are using the Muslims against us. Talmudism and Islam are both anti-Christ abominations that share roots in Middle Eastern occult mysticism. Some of the same outrages exist in both the Talmud and the Quran.

Muslim influence in America is so great their holidays get governmentally-recognized, and they even got their damnable Eid stamp printed. If we could displace AIPAC, we'd have the CAIR freaks to content with.

Islam has been a problem for centuries before the Khazars converted to Talmudism. One does not discount one vermin infected with cholera because another vermin infected with rabies is currently more influential.


I bet I can name 10 jews in our congress to every 1 muslim. You are right the jews are using them against us. The muslims only take advantage of opportunities offered to them by jew actions. Stop the jew, stop the problem.

[wildcard]

I concur,But you dont see whites moving in droves to the ME,right? Chechen savages attacking Russian schoolchildren isnt live and let live either.


When predator strikes start killing your kids you might feel differently.


Predator drones aren't attacking Chechnya.




No, but the Russians have killed many muslims in the same savage manner. Pushed on by the Rothschild's agenda. They are retaliating in the only way they can. As would we if our kids were being slaughtered and we had no organization, funding or weaponry.

[illumin19]

Are you denying that Muslims engage in Hajj (pilgrimage to Mecca) to worship a meteorite called the Kaaba Stone?

What sort of freak religion worships a rock?

[/quote]

Muslims engage in hajj to visit the first temple built for God. You might want to check your bible "christian" you might have heard of it. Baca/Bakkah/Makkah

[Phoenix]

Essentially, the Kaaba Stone ("sacred" meteorite) and its silver frame are an Arabic form of the Siva Yoni, "holy vagina of Shiva," in Hinduism. This can be determined by comparing the Kaaba Stone and images of the Siva Yoni (sometimes, called the Shiva Yoni) in India. Muslims admit the Kaaba (the big cube upon which the Kaaba Stone is mounted) predates Islam from the time of Arabic sex and lunar worship (the original Arabic god was Allat).

[Phoenix]

I bet I can name 10 jews in our congress to every 1 muslim.


The Jews put a Muslim in the White House.




Stop the jew, stop the problem.


Stop the Jew, stop ONE problem. Like I've noted, the Muslims have been a menace to European Civilization since Muhammed vomited out the Quran, long before Khazar Jews came about.

[Fortyone]

I concur,But you dont see whites moving in droves to the ME,right? Chechen savages attacking Russian schoolchildren isnt live and let live either.


When predator strikes start killing your kids you might feel differently.


Predator drones aren't attacking Chechnya.




No, but the Russians have killed many muslims in the same savage manner. Pushed on by the Rothschild's agenda. They are retaliating in the only way they can. As would we if our kids were being slaughtered and we had no organization, funding or weaponry.


Russians don't abstractly kill Muslims. They see Chechnya as a breakaway republic,Which if sucessfull, would place Zionist controlled NATO forces right on another border.Just like Georgia.I suppose you sympathize with Kosovo Albanians as well, and NATO intervention was justified?

[Phoenix]

Muslims engage in hajj to visit the first temple built for God.


Muslims kiss Allah's Siva Yoni (vagina) when they visit Mecca:


http://www.crystalinks.com/blackstone2.jpg

http://ahlanpk.org/Kaaba25.jpg

http://www.synthstuff.com/mt/archives/glory_hole_02.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04914gb6cw7RS/610x.jpg


The mystical, pagan sex worship history of the Kaaba and Kaaba Stone are undeniable. Muslims adore the Kaaba Stone because it is a symbol of the female sex organ.




You might want to check your bible "christian" you might have heard of it. Baca/Bakkah/Makkah


The Kaaba was built by Arabs who worshiped sex and the Moon, and their god Allat became Allah.

[Phoenix]

I concur,But you dont see whites moving in droves to the ME,right? Chechen savages attacking Russian schoolchildren isnt live and let live either.


When predator strikes start killing your kids you might feel differently.


Predator drones aren't attacking Chechnya.




No, but the Russians have killed many muslims in the same savage manner. Pushed on by the Rothschild's agenda. They are retaliating in the only way they can. As would we if our kids were being slaughtered and we had no organization, funding or weaponry.


Muslims persecuted the Ethnic Russians who were born in Chechnya, and Russia protected their people (just like the Muslims in Serbia's Kosovo caused Beograd to defend ethnic Serbs). Chechnyans want a pure Muslim theocracy. Unlike America's unprovoked wars in Iraq and Afghtanistan, Russia is fully justified in total annihilation of the enemy in Chechnya.

[Phoenix]

I suppose you sympathize with Kosovo Albanians as well, and NATO intervention was justified?


The Zionist Jew Wesley Kanne Clark, butcher of Beograd, slaughtered countless White Christian brothers and sisters in Serbia to protect the Muslim TRASH of Kosovo. He was backed by Jewess Madeline Albright and plenty of other Zionist Jews. Kosovo is Serbia's cultural heartland...taking it away from Serbia is like taking Bavaria away from Germany. The Muslim "majority" (a "majority" like anchor babies are in California) in Kosovo should have been expelled, not protected.

Kosovo is Europe's future, and the JEWISH defense of Kosovo Muslims illustrates the core problem that you and I are trying to point out to people who are fixated only on "Zionism."

[wildcard]

I bet I can name 10 jews in our congress to every 1 muslim.


The Jews put a Muslim in the White House.




Stop the jew, stop the problem.


Stop the Jew, stop ONE problem. Like I've noted, the Muslims have been a menace to European Civilization since Muhammed vomited out the Quran, long before Khazar Jews came about.


The muzzes have no nukes and don't appear to be getting any soon unless they are through the backdoor from Russia or China, but only if the Rothschilds allow it. The most substantial force in the area (saddam) was taken out in 3? days after the air strike operations. They aren't going to pose a threat to the USA anytime soon, unless of course we collapse completely because of the banksters.

[StackerKen]

The Washington Criminals do the bidding of the Jews. The fight in the Middle East has been brought to our shores in the form of Zionist control of the government and our military. But whether it's right or wrong is not the point. The Muslims view all Americans and all Europeans as infidels in need of vengeance now. It's like when a bully starts sh*t with a gang in front of your house, and then the gang targets your house because they think he's part of your household. We're targets now, and both the Jews and the Muslims need to go.


I just had an "ahh ha" moment

Phoenix; I think this post may have just woken me up a bit more

But I still don't think there is really much you and I can do to stop it.

Im pretty sure the bible tells of a huge battle



The Bible warns the destiny of the World is inseparable from Israel and Jerusalem. The Bible says God would one day re-gather the children of Israel back into their land from among many nations around the world ... the Bible says they would be re-gathered in unbelief ... God warns He is not re-gathering the children of Israel into their Land because they deserve it, but because His Name and His Word are at stake (see Ezekiel 36:17-23) ... and because He loves them ... and they are His chosen people. The Bible warns God would then make Jerusalem a world trouble spot ... the Bible says all nations of the world will turn against Israel ... the Bible warns that during this time 'Gaza will be forsaken' ... the Bible warns a coming world leader (the 'Antichrist') will rise out of 10 nations which once formed the Roman Empire and will enforce a peace plan (a covenant or treaty) upon Israel ('upon the many' - for many in Israel will be against it) ... and then, after a 3½ year false peace, God warns He will send the children of Israel (and all the nations of the world) through a fiery trial unlike anything in the history of the world, to separate the unfaithful unbelievers from the faithful believers (the coming 'Apocalypse') ... the Bible warns two-thirds of the people of Israel will be 'cut off and die' for their unbelief ... then, one day when the armies of the world will gather in and around nation Israel (the coming battle of Armageddon) and when all seems lost for the children of Israel, the Bible says a believing remnant will recognize their Messiah from Scripture (Messiah) and will call upon His Name (Messiah's return). The Bible then tells us 'after these things' the little nation of Israel and the children of Israel will rule over all nations on Earth in peace under her King and Messiah Jesus Christ (Yeshua Ha'Mashiach in Hebrew). The Bible says all of the covenants, promises, curses, prophecies, and blessings God has made to the children and nation of Israel will be fulfilled . . .

[Fortyone]

I bet I can name 10 jews in our congress to every 1 muslim.


The Jews put a Muslim in the White House.




Stop the jew, stop the problem.


Stop the Jew, stop ONE problem. Like I've noted, the Muslims have been a menace to European Civilization since Muhammed vomited out the Quran, long before Khazar Jews came about.


The muzzes have no nukes and don't appear to be getting any soon unless they are through the backdoor from Russia or China, but only if the Rothschilds allow it. The most substantial force in the area (saddam) was taken out in 3? days after the air strike operations. They aren't going to pose a threat to the USA anytime soon, unless of course we collapse completely because of the banksters.


Pakistan has nukes,They are indeed "Muzzies"

[Phoenix]

The muzzes have no nukes and don't appear to be getting any soon unless they are through the backdoor from Russia or China, but only if the Rothschilds allow it. The most substantial force in the area (saddam) was taken out in 3? days after the air strike operations. They aren't going to pose a threat to the USA anytime soon, unless of course we collapse completely because of the banksters.


Pakistan made their own, there are credible rumors Saudi Arabia bought some of those, and Kazakhstan, former SSR, had lots of warheads on its territory when the USSR disintegrated, not all of which were accounted for. And if Iran's leadership has any brains at all, they bought a few for retaliation after the certain nuclear attack coming their way.

As for conventional warfare, the Muslims in Britain, France, and Germany could bring those countries to a standstill in a few days, if they all worked together. Private firearms are few and far between there, and the police and army aren't large enough to deal with millions of suicidal fanatics. God knows we have enough of the bastards here, as well.

[Phoenix]

The Washington Criminals do the bidding of the Jews. The fight in the Middle East has been brought to our shores in the form of Zionist control of the government and our military. But whether it's right or wrong is not the point. The Muslims view all Americans and all Europeans as infidels in need of vengeance now. It's like when a bully starts sh*t with a gang in front of your house, and then the gang targets your house because they think he's part of your household. We're targets now, and both the Jews and the Muslims need to go.


I just had an "ahh ha" moment

Phoenix; I think this post may have just woken me up a bit more

But I still don't think there is really much you and I can do to stop it.

Im pretty sure the bible tells of a huge battle


I believe that America & Europe are going to be involved directly in the Battle (War?) of Armageddon. And like with Israel, not on Christ's side.

[Fortyone]

The Washington Criminals do the bidding of the Jews. The fight in the Middle East has been brought to our shores in the form of Zionist control of the government and our military. But whether it's right or wrong is not the point. The Muslims view all Americans and all Europeans as infidels in need of vengeance now. It's like when a bully starts sh*t with a gang in front of your house, and then the gang targets your house because they think he's part of your household. We're targets now, and both the Jews and the Muslims need to go.


I just had an "ahh ha" moment

Phoenix; I think this post may have just woken me up a bit more

But I still don't think there is really much you and I can do to stop it.

Im pretty sure the bible tells of a huge battle


I believe that America & Europe are going to be involved directly in the Battle (War?) of Armageddon. And like with Israel, not on Christ's side.



Of course you cant stop it,But be aware to SURVIVE it!

[StackerKen]

The Washington Criminals do the bidding of the Jews. The fight in the Middle East has been brought to our shores in the form of Zionist control of the government and our military. But whether it's right or wrong is not the point. The Muslims view all Americans and all Europeans as infidels in need of vengeance now. It's like when a bully starts sh*t with a gang in front of your house, and then the gang targets your house because they think he's part of your household. We're targets now, and both the Jews and the Muslims need to go.


I just had an "ahh ha" moment

Phoenix; I think this post may have just woken me up a bit more

But I still don't think there is really much you and I can do to stop it.

Im pretty sure the bible tells of a huge battle


I believe that America & Europe are going to be involved directly in the Battle (War?) of Armageddon. And like with Israel, not on Christ's side.



I don't know much Phoenix (you know that)

But I think its gonna be the Jews against the muzzies just like it has be for a long time.

Which side to you think Jesus will be on?

[StackerKen]

The Washington Criminals do the bidding of the Jews. The fight in the Middle East has been brought to our shores in the form of Zionist control of the government and our military. But whether it's right or wrong is not the point. The Muslims view all Americans and all Europeans as infidels in need of vengeance now. It's like when a bully starts sh*t with a gang in front of your house, and then the gang targets your house because they think he's part of your household. We're targets now, and both the Jews and the Muslims need to go.


I just had an "ahh ha" moment

Phoenix; I think this post may have just woken me up a bit more

But I still don't think there is really much you and I can do to stop it.

Im pretty sure the bible tells of a huge battle


I believe that America & Europe are going to be involved directly in the Battle (War?) of Armageddon. And like with Israel, not on Christ's side.



Of course you cant stop it,But be aware to SURVIVE it!


Thanks Fortyone. I'll do my best

See the large print in my Sig? (from the Declaration of Independence)

I trust in God to save me from what is coming.

But I am also Armed to protect myself and my loved ones ;)

[Joe King]

Just as nuts as us trying to impose our culture and will on sovereign nations that pose no risk to us halfway around the globe? Self determination.


I concur,But you dont see whites moving in droves to the ME,right? Chechen savages attacking Russian schoolchildren isnt live and let live either.


The part that I don't understand is why do Muslims who move to western Nations want to bring sharia law with them?
If that kind of law is so good for them, why not just stay in a Muslim ruled Nation to begin with?

I don't see Muslim Nations accomodating non Muslims as anything but 2nd class citizens.
i.e. but they still don't treat them as badly as they do their women. i.e. their "property". ::)

[Fortyone]

Remember, We cannot control destiny,but we can control our situation within it!

[PatColo]

This from Mark Glenn of http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/

MG alleges to have been in communication with Rense recently, where MG was critical of Rense's pattern of publishing Scary Moozlems Booga Booga articles at his site-- and from the reader comments it appears that the main 2 scary moozlems zio-propagandists who are regularly published at rense.com are Devvy Kidd and Frosty Wooldridge, though there may be other zio-agitprop tools who Rense publishes which MG is critical of, not sure as MG is a little vague in that area in the following article. Check the link for dozens of reader comments, still developing. Tangled web, and all that!



"Truther" Jeff Rense Threatens to call FBI and Department of Homeland Security on me, my wife and 9 kids (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/rense-threatens-to-call-fbi-and-department-of-homeland-security-on-me-my-wife-and-9-kids/)

In Uncategorized on October 13, 2010 by crescentandcross

Jeff Rense,

since you have blocked my email address and have just hung up the phone on me in mid-sentence, unfortunately you have limited my ability of communicating with you through any means other than a public letter.

The phone conversation you and I just had 5 minutes ago wherein you indicated your plans of having the FBI and Department of Homeland Security (brainchild of Michael Chertof) pay a visit to me, my wife and 9 children over my choice to exercise my first amendment rights in opposing your running the kind of racist, defamatory, hate-filled articles demonizing Muslims proves that you are not a man at all. Furthermore, the fact that you have had David Duke attempt to mediate with me on your behalf no less than 4 times in the last month is just further proof that you are a coward who cannot fight his own battles.

As I indicated to you several weeks ago, your willingness to be utilized by Zionist interests in running articles that enflame the already-dangerous levels of anti-Islamic hysteria in this country is absolutely intolerable from someone claiming to be a 'truther' and your defense–that you are trying to provide 'balance' and that 'freedom of speech' is the most important thing given what we do is now revealed for the lie that it is. Your "threat" to sick the Secret Police on me for MY exercizing MY right to free speech proves you are a fraud and that 'freedom of speech' is just a one-way street with you. Furthermore, your 'fears' that I am "inciting dangerous muslims" to come and do you "bodily harm" is absolutely laughable. If I wanted to do that, I would provide them with your home phone number and address, both of which I have in my possession (not that they would do anything anyway) and your statement as such proves you have bought into all the Zionist garbage about Muslims.

So here is the deal Jeff, just to show you I am a fair man–you want me to get off your back about the anti-Islamic articles you are running on your site? Fine–here’s my counter-offer–REMOVE THE OFFENSIVE, LYING, RACIST, HATE-MONGERING MATERIAL AND I WILL. You are worried about "bodily harm" being done to you by "dangerous Muslims"? THEN STOP INCITING THEM BY POSTING AND HOSTING OFFENSIVE, LYING, RACIST, HATE-MONGERING MATERIAL. Remember that thing about "not bearing false witness" Jeff? Maybe you should take it to heart. After all, if I–under the auspices of 'freedom of speech' were to suddenly start a thread propagating the lie that you were a pedophile, embezzler, wife beater, etc, etc, etc, would you (or one of your friends) NOT have the right to put pressure on me to not run such irresponsible and defamatory material?

Absent that, you can call the FBI, DHS, ATF, IRS, CIA, DIA, FDA, HHS, HUD, the US Forestry Service, the US Postal Service and just about any other Federal agency you want on me, I don’t care. I’ll invite them in, offer them a cup of my world-famous coffee and explain to them what a coward you are and why you, your long girly hair and your 'fears' should be ignored.

In the meantime Jeff, have fun dealing with the latest fire you have lit under your own ass, and good luck trying to salvage your reputation once people find out that your method of dealing with those who disagree with you is to run to the very agencies you spend all your time warning people about.

This is sad on several levels Jeff, not the least of which is how unnecessary it all was. I made it clear to you on many occasions that I am a reasonable man willing to do whatever was necessary in avoiding conflict within the ranks, absent of course outright betrayal of the truth. I never gave you grief about the BS stuff you run on ufo’s, bigfoot, giant lizards and all the rest because I recognize that everyone has a certain spice they like to use in their favorite dish. Your decision however to resort to such scummy, underhanded methods in silencing your critics shows you are not an opponent of Zionist tactics, but rather one who utilizes them when convenient.

In the meantime, perhaps I’ll encourage my Muslim friends to contact the FBI and DHS over YOUR inciting violence and terrorism against THEM by running articles and sponsoring guests which –by your own admission–you KNOW to be lies and liars, respectively.

MG
PS–don’t bother trying to deny the conversation we just had either Jeff. Unbeknownst to you, I had a 3rd party listening to the entire conversation who will testify that everything I am alleging in this open letter took place.

[shakinginmyshoes]

It (Jews) will serve them very well in the end. They have no problem at all with Islam.

Remember, the Golden Age of the Jews was during the era of Moor- (Arab-Muslim) controlled Spain.

Jews have ALWAYS side with the Muslims against the Whites of Christian heritage.

Shortly after the original Reconquista that the ethnic Spaniards drove the Moors out and Isabella and Ferdinand took the Spanish throne, they threw the Jews out, too.

History always repeats.

[nunaem]

Criticizing Islam is fine by me as long as you put it in its proper context. The 'proper' context is a footnote rather than an entire article.

Islam is a threat to the west, but it is a threat of tertiary importance. When you make it out to be the primary threat to the west you are only aiding the Jewish agenda.

[PatColo]

Criticizing Islam is fine by me as long as you put it in its proper context. The 'proper' context is a footnote rather than an entire article.

Islam is a threat to the west, but it is a threat of tertiary importance. When you make it out to be the primary threat to the west you are only aiding the Jewish agenda.


The whole "Islam is a threat to the west" memeplex is a zionist creation/hoax IMHO, and those propagating it are either zio-tools or useful idiots. Picture zion with a knife to the gentile throat (or perhaps with blood sucking fangs in the gentile jugular), hysterically warning you about the scary moozlemists across the street or thousands of miles away, who wanna eat your babies! :o It's diversion/misdirection-101, a zionist specialty... meanwhile,


http://solari.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/giant_squid.jpg

I don't want to vilify Rense nor vouch for MG. Both bring much truth to the table, while having their own unique liabilities. In the reader comments in the MG article above for example, MG pipes up disparaging Chris Bollyn, repeating matter-of-factly the police version of the police assault on Bollyn, saying:

" Being formerly-employed by AFP (the paper that was Bollyn’s employer for many years) I am semi-intimately acquainted with the fiasco and can tell you it was not a case of "you know who" out to get Bollyn. The fact of the matter is that while drunk Bollyn picked a fight with a bunch of cops he personally called and then made gestures indicating he was going into the house to "get help" which they interpreted as him getting a gun, and thus pounced on him, and rightly so. "

So MG was suddenly a personal witness to the whole event, and can bear witness so bluntly about "the fact of the matter"?? I think not...

But I do appreciate MG's "niche" in the truth movement, illuminating and debunking the zionist orchestrated efforts to demonize Muslims via their contrived warrenterra hoax, and to pit Christianity against Islam in setting the stage for duping these two "Children of Abraham" religions into destroying each other, leaving "you know who" (Abraham's 3rd "doesn't play well with others" child) still standing. Look back a few pages at http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com for material helpful in deprogramming from the zio-lies about Islam.

About Rense, he's a man of mystery, try doing a background or image search on him, you'll come up with squat. We basically have his well known "80s porn star" portrait, and an unverifiable background about some TV work he did before rense.com. But one of the reader comments in the MG article posted this video clip of Rense, interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAOT7rY1WZg

[PatColo]

Mark Glenn posted this podcast today... haven't listened yet, just FYI,

The Ugly Truth Podcast Oct 14, 2010 (http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/2010/10/14/the-ugly-truth-podcast-oct-14-2010/)

Alex Jones the most dangerous man in the ‘truth movement”? THINK AGAIN. For all Jones’ danger as an agent of disinformation, at least he is not ready, willing and able to send armed thugs into the home of someone he disagrees with politically. Come listen to today’s program as we discuss Jeff Rense’s recent threats to have agents of the FBI and Department of Homeland Security visit the home of Mark Glenn, where he resides with his wife and 9 children over a personal dispute.

Jeff Rense’s recent postings of Islamophobic articles of “neo-conservative” orientation on his site is another aspect of this curious story…

DIRECT MP3 DOWNLOAD (http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/mf/web/guzstt/UT14OCT2010dankof1MP3a.mp3) - 27 MBs, 66 mins

[Olmstein]

I'd like to know where PatColo is coming from with his pro-muslim agenda. What is your culture and heritage?

Just to be fair, I am an atheist, though both my parents were Protestants of Northern European heritage.

Pat?

[zap]

Good Question, Pat?


Me too , I not a atheist though.

[nunaem]

The Descent of Islam

by Revilo P. Oliver

ISLAM, LIKE CHRISTIANITY, is essentially a Jewish cult for goyim. The Koran, however, is not derived from the Babylonian Talmud. Most of the Koran (Qur’án, “the statements” (i.e., of God to Mahomet)) probably was composed by Mahomet after his Hegira, which took place in 622. The Babylonian Talmud was probably first collected in the Sixth Century and much of that heap of ordure is of a much later date, although naturally with forged pretension to great antiquity. It sprang, of course, out of the festering mentality of the Jews, and while it is most unlikely that any part of the Talmud as such could have been known to the Jews in Arabia who influenced Mahomet, they naturally had the mentality of their race, so it is not remarkable that there are two or three passages in the Koran that correspond more or less closely to passages in the Talmud.


It would be more proper to classify Islam as a Christian sect or group of sects, since the word ‘Christian’ properly designates all of the innumerable sects that attribute divinity to the Jesus who is the protagonist of the “New Testament,” although, of course, there is naturally great hostility between competing sects, each of which claims to represent the “true religion” and even tries to deny the term ‘Christian’ to all of its competitors in the salvation-business. It is true that Mahomet claimed to be the successor of the Jewish Jesus, whom he, like the Christians, regarded as not having been a christ in the strict sense of that word (i.e., a divinely appointed king to lead the Jews to dominion over the whole world), but as a Saviour who, like Zarathustra, could bestow a pleasant immortality on anyone, regardless of race, who believed the right dogmas while keeping his reason in abeyance.

Direct influence of the Talmud on the Koran is excluded because the Talmud throughout shows a hostility to the Jesus of the “New Testament” and to his successors, including Bar-Kokhba, because those christs didn’t get any effective butchering of Aryans under way. Had there been effective influence of the Talmud on Mahomet, he would certainly have refrained from recognizing the divinity of the Jesus in question and presenting himself as his successor. Islam is strictly comparable to the many Christian sects, e.g., the Huggletonians, the Shakers, the Mormons, the Anabaptists of Leyden, the Elect of Shiloh (followers of Joanna Southcott), et al., which gave their Jesus a divinely appointed successor or coadjutor. The story of Mahomet was modelled on the Christian legend: a virgin birth is, of course, de rigeur for all Saviours, but much less common is a claim that the Saviour’s mother remained a virgin after parturition, as is claimed for Mary in the Gospel of James and other Christian gospels and is claimed for Fatimah (Mahomet’s mother) in the Moslem tradition.

It is highly probable (see, e.g., H. W. F. Saggs, Babylonian Civilisation, London, 1962; reprinted as The Greatness that was Babylon, New York, 1968) that in the first part of the sixth century B.C. the Jews were established in possession of the strategic oases that controlled the trade-routes in the Arabian Peninsula by the last king of Babylon, Nabonidus, whom, in keeping with their racial instincts, they repaid by stabbing him in the back, exciting subversion in his kingdom and finally betraying Babylon to the armies of Cyrus the Great. Cyrus was the only goy whom they tried to cozen by saluting him as their christ, and it was probably through such flattery as much as from the bargain they doubtless struck with Cyrus before betraying the Babylonians to him that they were given privileged status in the Persian Empire. The Bible and Josephus tell us how a caravan of rich Jews, their chariots laden with gold and silver while their hundreds of goy slaves trudged along behind, set out from Babylon to take possession of Jerusalem and start exploiting the natives and kicking them around, while the majority of the ‘chosen’ stayed in Babylon to continue eating on the Babylonians whom they had betrayed. When the Persians took Egypt, their protection was extended to the hordes of Jews who were parasites on the Egyptian natives.

The Arabian Peninsula was lousy with Jews in the time of Mahomet; they fostered his new religion at first, just as they promoted Christianity in the decaying Roman Empire, and they doubtless made suggestions that Mahomet adopted, but they conspired against him when they found that he was less than docile. There is a succinct account in Sir Richard Burton’s Narrative of a Pilgrimage to Al-Medinah & Meccah, which is now available in a Dover reprint. The Moslems, like some Christian sects, were more or less hostile to Jews in theory, though not in practice, and there were almost no professed Jews left in the Holy Cities when Burton visited them (although there doubtless were Jews who had taken Arabic names and professed Islam to disguise themselves, just as among us they take Aryan names and simulate our culture in public), but in general, Islam, like Christianity, guaranteed the Jews immunity in return for small contributions as tax.

The doctrines of Islam are essentially Christian in the sense that there is no important dogma that is not paralleled in one or more of the innumerable Christian sects of the past and present, and Islam itself, of course, split into many divergent sects that quarrelled about theological fantasies. Most Christian sects, however, are overtly proletarian and “peace-loving,” deprecating violence except when they run amok in a holy war and enjoy butchering “heretics” for the profit of the Jews. Islam, however, was less hypocritical and a holy war (jihád) is one of the cardinal articles of its faith (except in a few minor and “heretical” sects that arose long after the time of Mahomet). That was the secret of its success. The new religion was a means of uniting the reciprocally hostile tribes of Arabia and launching them on a programme of world conquest that was phenomenally successful so long as the Arabs retained their racial vitality. For example, they virtually owned almost all of India after 1000 A.D. and until the British conquest, and they conquered Spain and the southern part of France, although they were gradually driven out of Europe, since at that time our race was less degenerate and had not lost its will to live.

Islam, like Christianity, served the Jews’ purposes by inculcating superstitions about the equality of races, teaching that all anthropoids that believed in a religious rigmarole as an article of faith and avoided rational thought were equal and vastly superior to persons, whatever their race, who held other superstitions or, what was much worse, did not have delusions about the real world. The poor Arabs took that nonsense seriously (God had said it, hadn’t he, in a confab with Mahomet?), and were so thoroughly mongrelized that today the only real Arabs, indeed, the only real Semites, are to be found in Saudi Arabia, where some of the tribes stayed home and thus escaped much of the hybridization that destroyed the Arabs in the lands they conquered. It is possible, of course, that an Arab could be found here and there in the Islamic countries that the press calls “Arab” because one or another dialect of Arabic is spoken there (Egypt, Iraq, Syria, etc.), but the population of those countries is a mass of mongrels.

There is one conspicuous difference between Islam and Christianity in their dysgenic effects, equally pleasing to Jews. With the exception of some early Christian sects that were exterminated when the Fathers of the Church wormed their way to power and could start killing their competitors, Christianity, during the greater part of its history, enforced celibacy and homosexuality on a fairly large part of our race, including some of its most intelligent members, through the priesthood and monasticism, and broke up families and family property by prohibiting marriages between even fairly distant relatives. Islam, on the other hand, ordained polygyny and encouraged Moslems to fill their harems, and engender children by women of all different races; that is why the Arabic stock was diluted and liquidated so much more quickly than our own.

Many Christian sects have been more or less theoretically anti-Jewish in the past, and some still profess to be, but holy men cannot resist the most indubitable revelation of God’s will, cash, and now that the Jews have virtual control of the finances of the countries that once belonged to our race, the various Christian sects are behaving as Rabbi Schindler predicted a century ago: they are erring daughters trooping home to their nice Yiddish mama.

— November, 1981

[Book]

I'd like to know where PatColo is coming from with his pro-muslim agenda.



PatColo isn't any more "pro-Muslim" than me. Most here and at GIM and elsewhere KNOW that 9-11 wasn't a Muslim operation. Probably some Zionist-Mossad false-flag job to demonize the Muslims and put America under martial law to protect us from Israel's "enemies" who are actually Israel's victims. Look at how our American tax money supports "Israel" and their open-air Concentration Camp known as Gaza. Look at these photos of American Citizens after 9-11:

http://www.sott.net/image/image/s1/29537/full/USAirportSecurity_narrowweb_300.jpg

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/2032362.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD16E9364905BBE866 7016FAC2514220EE7D8F861497EE93D0E30A760B0D811297

http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/tsa_breast_groping1.jpg

I remain a big fan of PatColo.

:)

[Olmstein]

I'll put the same question to you, book. What's your culture and heritage?

[PatColo]

I'd like to know where PatColo is coming from with his pro-muslim agenda. What is your culture and heritage?



In other words, you'd like to joojitsu the dialog towards something more ad hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) based? Anyone would be a fool to believe "personal profile" posturings of anonymous messageboard posters anyways... as surely as the zio-agitprop shills are never in reality as they present themselves in their "work" in cyberspace.

Do you have any perspectives you'd like to share re the public works of public personalities Devvy Kidd, or Jeff Rense, etc, aka the topic of this thread?

[Olmstein]

I'd like to know where PatColo is coming from with his pro-muslim agenda. What is your culture and heritage?



In other words, you'd like to joojitsu the dialog towards something more ad hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) based? Anyone would be a fool to believe "personal profile" posturings of anonymous messageboard posters anyways... as surely as the zio-agitprop shills are never in reality as they present themselves in their "work" in cyberspace.

Do you have any perspectives you'd like to share re the public works of public personalities Devvy Kidd, or Jeff Rense, etc, aka the topic of this thread?


So you refuse to answer? Disappointing. I would take your word for it if you answered the question, I think we've both been around these forums long enough to have shown a bit of personal integrity.

As to the thread at hand, I happen to agree with most of what Phoenix and Wildcard posted. I think Islam is a danger to Western civilization. I don't really read a lot of Rense, but I do enjoy the pics where they've photoshopped a hooknose on different people.

[PatColo]

So you refuse to answer? Disappointing.


So I was exactly right?



In other words, you'd like to joojitsu the dialog towards something more ad hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) based?


Disappointing. :-*




As to the thread at hand, I happen to agree with most of what Phoenix and Wildcard posted.


Phoenix?! I remember him, lol


http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12510.0;attach=380 3;image

I thought he was going to pop a vein from overwork leading up to the recent 9/11 anniversary, when he flooded GSUS with nearly 100 "scary moozlems booga booga!" zio-agitprop posts in a 24 hour period! (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/notorious-wyoming-anti-semite-to-bbq-(or-tear-up)-quran-on-wyoming-capitol-steps/msg109572/#msg109572) :lol

[Olmstein]

So you refuse to answer? Disappointing.


So I was exactly right?

You are exactly wrong. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrong)





In other words, you'd like to joojitsu the dialog towards something more ad hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) based?


Disappointing. :-*

I don't see how you revealing your culture and heritage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_heritage) would open the debate to ad hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) attacks. Though your refusal to reveal where your coming from does open up speculation about your character. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowardice)






As to the thread at hand, I happen to agree with most of what Phoenix and Wildcard posted.


Phoenix?! I remember him, lol


http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12510.0;attach=380 3;image

I thought he was going to pop a vein from overwork leading up to the recent 9/11 anniversary, when he flooded GSUS with nearly 100 "scary moozlems booga booga!" zio-agitprop posts in a 24 hour period! (http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/notorious-wyoming-anti-semite-to-bbq-(or-tear-up)-quran-on-wyoming-capitol-steps/msg109572/#msg109572) :lol



So I assume your trying to imply that Fred/MJK/Phoenix is a Zionist puppet? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppet) That's not only an ad hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) attack, but is so far off base as to be laughable. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surreal_humour)

Try again, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failure#Internet_memes) PatColo.

[Neuro]

Good questions Olmstein... He is avoiding the question really, I can see a good reason for it. He is Muslim and saying that he isn't would land him in hell...

[Spectrism]

I'd like to know where PatColo is coming from with his pro-muslim agenda. What is your culture and heritage?



In other words, you'd like to joojitsu the dialog towards something more ad hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) based? Anyone would be a fool to believe "personal profile" posturings of anonymous messageboard posters anyways... as surely as the zio-agitprop shills are never in reality as they present themselves in their "work" in cyberspace.

Do you have any perspectives you'd like to share re the public works of public personalities Devvy Kidd, or Jeff Rense, etc, aka the topic of this thread?


I too tire of this crap from PatColo. He is a staunch defender of Islam and he finds scary Joos under every bed and in every dirty corner. Yoo..... Pat... stuff it!

[Book]

I'll put the same question to you, book. What's your culture and heritage?



http://www.tween.org/watchingTV1950ent1.jpg

Anglo-Saxon American Goyim who didn't have a clue until logging onto GIM five years ago...lol.

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[Book]

I'd like to know where PatColo is coming from with his pro-muslim agenda. What is your culture and heritage?



In other words, you'd like to joojitsu the dialog towards something more ad hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) based? Anyone would be a fool to believe "personal profile" posturings of anonymous messageboard posters anyways... as surely as the zio-agitprop shills are never in reality as they present themselves in their "work" in cyberspace...



[size=12pt]Olmstein is a very kosher username but he has in the past denied being a jew...lol.

:ROFL:

[PatColo]

I don't see how you revealing your culture and heritage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_heritage) would open the debate to ad hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) attacks. Though your refusal to reveal where your coming from does open up speculation about your character. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowardice)

In other words, you're doubling down your efforts to joojitsu the dialog towards something more ad hominem based, while doubling down your disingenuous denials that that's your game, then topping it all off with an inferred ad hominem attack should I fail to comply with your game.


http://profcartoon.com/sport/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/sofer-1.jpg

Where'd you learn those sweet moves, steinski? :dunno





So I assume your trying to imply that Fred/MJK/Phoenix is a Zionist puppet? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppet) That's not only an ad hominem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) attack, but is so far off base as to be laughable. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surreal_humour)




Phoenix-stein's game was transparent to anyone with eyes to see,





I know I know, I see various prolific GSUS posters also working hard to build up their "credibility capital" with all the ADLfront "Stormfront" rhetoric admiring Hitler, hating on dajooz, and/or the "Niqqers" or "mud people" or whatever kosher HATE terms are in vogue over there at ADLfront "Stormfront" nowdaze; and then trying to "spend" that imagined cred-capital by mixing it with generous amounts of the signature zio-agit-prop payload:



scary moozlems wanna eat your babies booga booga!!http://www.messianic-torah-truth-seeker.org/Torah/Kashrut/logo-ou-kosher-48.gif


Some GSUS readers buy the shtick, others not so much... ;)





"I'm tellin yous, our enemies are the joosh vermin AND the mud people AND the niqqers AND MOST URGENTLY OF ALL, THE SCARY MOOZLEMISTS WHO WANNA IMPOSE SCARY SHARIA LAW AND THEN EAT OUR BABIES IN THE MOST SCARY SORT OF WAY, BOOGA BOOGA!!" :o
http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12510.0;attach=380 3;image
"I'm tellin yous, my fellow haterz, we're in a MULTI-FRONT WAR, and we must DIVIDE AND EXPEND OUR ENERGIES ACCORDINGLY (but most especially towards fighting them thar scary scary moozlems booga booga)."


:ROFL:

[Olmstein]

I'll put the same question to you, book. What's your culture and heritage?



http://www.tween.org/watchingTV1950ent1.jpg

Anglo-Saxon American Goyim who didn't have a clue until logging onto GIM five years ago...lol.

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Thanks for answering the question, book. Let's hope PatColo can find the courage to do the same.

And as to my name, it's a joke about my being cheap, you know, "cheap jew"? I assure you, I'm not jewish and do not come from a jewish background. You and I have essentially the same story, book. I've learned a lot about who pulls the strings in this world since signing on to GIM in 2008. None of that changes my long held opinion, formed way before 9/11, that Islam is a threat to Western Civilization.

[Olmstein]

scary scary moozlems booga booga).

:ROFL:


You know, PatColo, I'm not here to discuss Phoenix or your bizarre accusations that he is a jew, zionist, or a puppet. He's an egomaniac and a socialist, but I'm pretty sure he's not a jew.

I'm quite proud of my English/Scottish/Dutch heritage. Are you so ashamed of yours?

[PatColo]

I'm quite proud of my English/Scottish/Dutch heritage. Are you so ashamed of yours?


In other words, you're doubling tripling down your efforts to joojitsu the dialog towards something more ad hominem based, while doubling tripling down your disingenuous denials that that's your game, then topping it all off with an inferred ad hominem attack should I fail to comply with your game.

whatever steinski. :whistle


http://www.thebagelinn.net/images/bagels.jpg

I'll give you a shekel for that sun-dried tomato jobee. And don't try to joo me on the lox, either.

[PatColo]

DOH!! (http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/jsrch.htm) << looks like Rense, and/or his alter-ego A ManDuh Rose, are fly-fishing for a 3-way...


http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/jffsrchspecial2.jpg

also see: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1199704/pg1

[nunaem]

I've learned a lot about who pulls the strings in this world since signing on to GIM in 2008. None of that changes my long held opinion, formed way before 9/11, that Islam is a threat to Western Civilization.


Yes but anything non-western shipped wholesale into the West is a threat. Mexicans aren't inherently any more threatening than say, Brazilians, but the fact that they are coming here in droves makes them more threatening.

If millions of Christian Filipinos were being hauled to western nations instead of Muslims, would they pose any less of a threat? I would say no.

[PatColo]

Yes but anything non-western shipped wholesale into the West is a threat. Mexicans aren't inherently any more threatening than say, Brazilians, but the fact that they are coming here in droves makes them more threatening.

If millions of Christian Filipinos were being hauled to western nations instead of Muslims, would they pose any less of a threat? I would say no.



[Zionist] Conquest Through Immigration (http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=552)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I86Kd8hpMac

[Book]

You and I have essentially the same story, book. I've learned a lot about who pulls the strings in this world since signing on to GIM in 2008. None of that changes my long held opinion, formed way before 9/11, that Islam is a threat to Western Civilization.



http://blog.beliefnet.com/idolchatter/seinfeld_idol.jpg

http://ceoworld.biz/ceo/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/james-joseph-jim-cramer.jpg

http://unitednationsoffilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/bernanke_greenspan.jpg

Get real Olmstein. Jew-controlled teevee already destroyed Western Civilization and you know it. Jews (not mooslims) own and control all our media and banks and they already destroyed America. This recent attack upon PatColo is silly zio-nonsense and yet you call yourself Olmstein and rail against the scary moolims...lol.

:D

[PatColo]

None of that changes my long held opinion, formed way before 9/11, that Islam is a threat to Western Civilization.




PSST, 'steinski said,
"Islam is a threat to Western Civilization."
http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/sharon-and-peres.jpg
Yeah,
heh, heh heh, heh. ;)

[shakinginmyshoes]

Islam IS a threat to Western civilization.

People who make fun of that statement remind me of the

Reconquista deniers.

"Oh, come on, there's NO plot by the Mexicans (bolstered by Organized Jewry) to take California for Mexico. You're just paranoid. They're only coming here to work. They're harmless. You're just a racist."

Fast forward 20 years:

CA is well and truly farked.

[shakinginmyshoes]

Innnnnnnn faaaaaact,

Jews and Arab-Muslims are more alike than different.

It's a tactic common to both of them to make fun of EuroWhites, trying to smear us as craZy, when we point out the dangers of both the middle-eastern-rooted races to ourselves.

A very semitic tactic.

[shakinginmyshoes]

Wow.

I now understand better just how much my friend Devvy Kidd truly is, and how much PatColo is NOT.

[illumin19]

Yes but anything non-western shipped wholesale into the West is a threat. Mexicans aren't inherently any more threatening than say, Brazilians, but the fact that they are coming here in droves makes them more threatening.

If millions of Christian Filipinos were being hauled to western nations instead of Muslims, would they pose any less of a threat? I would say no.


I am in agreement with you here........but a question also comes to mind while agreeing with your comments.
So, "the West" is not Christian per se? Or is it "white christian" or just white?

If Hitler took over all of Europe and decimated many other "white peoples" would that still be the west?

It seems like the LACK OF AN IDENTITY for "the West" is what is really destroying "the west" to me...........

I have yet to here what exactly "the west" is? Can anyone explain.....

By the way I'm a "western" muslim of mexican, french, spanish, peruvian, and possibly Italian descent.......

[shakinginmyshoes]

It's exactly guys like illumin denying that White Americans have an identity, or even that "the West" is a real thing, that is enabling the Jews to genocide us through mass immigration of non-Whites/non-Westerners into our countries.

If you're Muslim, no, you're not "Western." Islam is an oriental philosophy. The fact that you find intellectual "fit" with Muslim ideas, such that you self-identify as Muslim, demonstrates you are alien to "the West."

The West is: the lands known as Christendom, populated by the descendants of White Christian Europeans (even if they are now agnostic), and the Diaspora of those people into the White countries outside of Europe: Canada, U.S., Australia, New Zealand, sort-of Argentina

[illumin19]

It's girls like shakinginmyshoes denying White Americans their real identity, if indeed White Americans or "the west" are indeed christians.

An idea is an idea........but....let's look at it your way.

You adopted christianity from an "eastern philosophy" my dear, you do know this right? Their would be no christianity without the "eastern philosophy" put forth by the books of Genesis thru Malachi. The fact that you identify yourself as "christian" then no you're not "Western" because of that fact.........So much for being "western".

Let's look at this another way now......
There was natives on these lands yet your ancestors (and mine) came with mass immigration, and chrisitianity and caused mass genocide on the continents known as North and South America.......wait it starting to sound familiar ::)

All are guilty....God will give us what we all deserve.

[Neuro]

I think Christianity is far more 'western' in philosophy, arising in a Greek Roman environment/ethos, compared to Islam arising in a Babylonian and Persian environment/ethos...

[Olmstein]

Get real Olmstein. Jew-controlled teevee already destroyed Western Civilization and you know it. Jews (not mooslims) own and control all our media and banks and they already destroyed America. This recent attack upon PatColo is silly zio-nonsense and yet you call yourself Olmstein and rail against the scary moolims...lol.

:D



First off, I didn't attack PatColo, I merely asked him about his culture and heritage. His refusal to answer, and accusing me of "joojitsu" started this conversation down the wrong road. I will admit that I'm more than happy to go down that road if that's where PatColo wants to go. (See below)

Second, you need to get over your obsession with my made up username. When MAGNES was posting at GIM as "Masonic FRNs", did you think he was secretly a mason? Sometimes a name can be used in a humorous, ironic fashion.






None of that changes my long held opinion, formed way before 9/11, that Islam is a threat to Western Civilization.




PSST, 'steinski said,
"Islam is a threat to Western Civilization."
http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/sharon-and-peres.jpg
Yeah,
heh, heh heh, heh. ;)


You may want to loosen your turban (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turban), PatColo, I think it's cutting off the oxygen to your brain.

http://www.granitegrok.com/pix/MohammadTurbanBomb.jpg

[shakinginmyshoes]

You adopted christianity from an "eastern philosophy" my dear, you do know this right?

Foof.

That's the argument the "judeo-christians" try to make. It's like saying the Pieta is, after all, at base, just a chunk of marble.

Fact is, the Catholic Church changed it all into something entirely unique to Europeans; the traditions of monogamy, of "universalism" (dammit); of the commoner being of equal value in his humanity as the nobility, and the nobles being answerable for his actions, too, as well as that women are valuable, not property to be bought and sold. Also, they took the best ideas of the pagans, such as Christmas being at the time of the winter solstice.
The Catholics suppressed the Jews for over a 1000 years.
Sadly, Martin Luther went and got with the Jews, who lied to him that they'd convert "if the doctrine were corrected." Luther took them at their work, published his 99 theses and discovered the Jews had NO INTENTION of coming on board. So Martin wrote the Jews and Their Lies.
But the Reformation was the beginning of the Jews' regaining power over the EuroWhites (i.e., Christian). And evangelical Christianity is sadly, terribly re-Judaized/twisted. My people are misled and know it not.

So, no, Christianity is what it is because it is a product of the European mind. The Jews (orientals) did NOT create the thinking that led to Catholicism. Catholicism is an expression of the Euros' genetics.

It looks to me now that the Orthodox churches will probably be the institution to save the Euros, if we don't go extinct.

[Neuro]

You adopted christianity from an "eastern philosophy" my dear, you do know this right?

Foof.

That's the argument the "judeo-christians" try to make. It's like saying the Pieta is, after all, at base, just a chunk of marble.

Fact is, the Catholic Church changed it all into something entirely unique to Europeans; the traditions of monogamy, of "universalism" (dammit); of the commoner being of equal value in his humanity as the nobility, and the nobles being answerable for his actions, too, as well as that women are valuable, not property to be bought and sold. Also, they took the best ideas of the pagans, such as Christmas being at the time of the winter solstice.
The Catholics suppressed the Jews for over a 1000 years.
Sadly, Martin Luther went and got with the Jews, who lied to him that they'd convert "if the doctrine were corrected." Luther took them at their work, published his 99 theses and discovered the Jews had NO INTENTION of coming on board. So Martin wrote the Jews and Their Lies.
But the Reformation was the beginning of the Jews' regaining power over the EuroWhites (i.e., Christian). And evangelical Christianity is sadly, terribly re-Judaized/twisted. My people are misled and know it not.

So, no, Christianity is what it is because it is a product of the European mind. The Jews (orientals) did NOT
create the thinking that led to Catholicism. Catholicism is an expression of the Euros' genetics.

It looks to me now that the Orthodox churches will probably be the institution to save the Euros, if we don't go extinct.

Do you have any links to evidence that Jews influenced Martin Luther? As far as I know Martin Luther tried to reform the catholic church, but the catholic church didn't want to be reformed, from selling forgiveness etc., so Martin Luther was banished... I have heard that Calvin was influenced by Jews, or even was a Jew... But I haven't heard this of Martin Luther...

[messianicdruid]

You all need to take three steps back and look at the big picture.

We can argue for eons about the origins of the ideas {and therefore the motivations} that are found in the conflicts of men, comparing this fact with that fact, this meaning with that meaning, this insight with that insight. As long as you believe men are the originators of these ideas {my idea is better than your idea} these conflicts will keep us at each others throats.

I am tired of it. Why? It doesn't matter how well you present your idea/insight/fact - period. Unless an event occurs which will make each individual pay attention to what you just said.

The West is made up of Israelites. We name our children after them, we keep {the more we keep the more we are blessed} their laws {the israeLIES do not}. Our forefathers were cast out of Palestine for unfaithfulness and spread {mostly north and west} around the planet. We have been regathered in the New JerUSAlem {one of a family and two of a city}. Our common law is built upon God's Law. The heathen are still trying to influence and lead us astray. But a remnant {there will always be a remnant} still remains faithful.

"The prophets speak of the regathering of both Israel and Judah together to show that the great breach between these two nations has been repaired. The Divided Kingdom must be reunited before the marriage and regathering can take place. Jesus came first to set up the Judah phase of the Kingdom. His disciples became true “Jews.” The second coming of Christ is required to set up the Joseph (Israel) phase of the Kingdom. Those true Jews who also become true Israelites are the citizens forming the United Kingdom of Israel. These are the ones who receive Christ as both the King of Judah and the King of Israel. They accept Him by faith as their Passover Lamb as well as their pattern of the Manifested Son. This is the only path to citizenship in Israel, and it requires a person to become an overcomer and thus fulfill the Feast of Tabernacles.

Once a person has become a legal citizen of Judah, then he may continue on to become a citizen of the United House of Israel. This is a greater Kingdom. In fact, it is no other than the Kingdom of God itself. But to become an Israelite one must be joined to Joseph, the birthright holder. In Christ’s second coming, He comes as the Heir to the birthright of Joseph. Therefore, one must believe that the true inheritor of Joseph is Jesus Christ and the overcomers (the Joseph company). These are the chosen ones who will rule with Him for a thousand years (Rev. 20:6).

Joseph speaks of Sonship. Jesus was the first of the manifested sons of God. He was the pattern, the firstborn from the dead (Col. 1:18). Those who go beyond Passover and Pentecost into the experience of the Feast of Tabernacles are the overcomers who will become the manifested sons of God described in Romans 8:19-21. The way is open to every believer, but not every believer is an overcomer. One can accept Christ as his Passover without accepting Him as his Tabernacles.

The manifested sons of God are those who not only have accepted Jesus Christ, but they have also come into the maturity of Sonship. Paul describes this in Galatians 4:1-7 and other writings as the huiothesia, the “placement of Sons.” He says that as long as we are yet immature children, we are no different from slaves or servants, even if we are heirs of all things. A baby is born into a family and is an heir of his father’s house; but he is not placed as a Son until he reaches maturity.

So also it is with this matter of Sonship. A baby Christian can be an heir of all things, but he is only placed in the legal position of a Son when he reaches maturity. Only then does he exercise the full authority of the Father. To reach such a place of maturity requires going through the developmental steps laid down in Israel’s feast days: Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles. One must be justified, sanctified, and then glorified. One must be fully saved in spirit, soul, and body.

When a person meets these requirements, then and only then can it be said that he is an Israelite indeed. It took Jacob 98 years to reach that point in his life when he became an Israelite. It ought not to take that long for us today, for we may learn from his mistakes by studying his life in the Scripture. Even so, we must see the difference between being a true Jew and being a true Israelite.

Hosea 1:11 says,

"And the sons of Judah and the sons of Israel will be gathered together, and they will appoint for themselves one Leader, and they will go up from the land, for great will be the day of Jezreel."

The Leader that Judah and Israel will appoint is Jesus Christ. He is the rightful Heir to the throne of Judah and to the Kingdom (birthright) of Joseph-Israel. The verse above does NOT say that this Leader will appoint Himself as King over Judah and Israel. It says that “they” will appoint Him to be their Leader. This is important in view of the fact that His leadership has been disputed. When Jesus came as the Heir to the throne of David, the chief priests disputed His claim. They did NOT appoint Him as their Leader. They wanted someone more willing to use military force to overthrow the Romans. He did not fit their idea of the Messiah.

And so, they killed the Heir in order to seize His inheritance (Matt. 21:38). In other words, they disputed His right to be the Leader, or King of Judah. But those who DID accept Him were the true Jews, and in the eyes of God they remained as true citizens of Judah. The rest were cut off, according to the law, but their ranks were filled by people of other nations who gladly accepted Jesus Christ as their King. Together, they formed the Kingdom of God—though this Kingdom was still in an early stage of development.

It was essentially a Judah Kingdom. It became known as “the Church,” but it was Judah in the eyes of God. It would require a second coming of Christ to usher in the full Kingdom of Israel. Even as King David himself was first king of Judah before becoming king of Israel, so also is it with Jesus Christ. The Church has proclaimed Him King of Judah during the past 2,000 years, but now in His second appearance He is going to be proclaimed King of Israel—the United Kingdom of Israel.

Yet once again, His right to the Birthright of Joseph is being disputed by the Zionists and by many Christian Zionists who support them. The Zionist state of “Israel” by its very nature claims to be the Kingdom of God, or the beginning of it. If that were true, then Christians would have to join the religion of Judaism in order to become part of the Bride of Christ. Yet Judaism {Talmudism} requires men to reject Jesus as the Christ. The only way a Christian can become a Jew is if he deceives the rabbis into thinking that he rejects Jesus Christ. Such lies are not a Christian virtue.

To support Zionism today is the equivalent of playing the role of Judas. Judas was Jesus’ disciple who thought he could force Jesus to use His power to declare Himself the Messiah. So he betrayed Jesus into the hands of the chief priests. Judas was wrong. Likewise, today, Christian Zionists are betraying Jesus Christ once again in the matter of the Birthright of Joseph. They are desperately trying to help God fulfill prophecies in order to force His return. It is as if they want the Israeli state to stir up such hatred among the Arabs {scary moozlims} that they threaten to destroy the Zionists. The Christians seem to want to bring about “Armageddon” in order to force Jesus to come and save the Zionists from utter destruction. This was Judas’ method. What will they do when their plan backfires? Judas hanged himself.

Here, then, is the great irony. The Christians seem to love the Zionists, but actually, they are urging them to their doom and often paying their way into the destruction that will certainly come upon the old Jerusalem. On the other hand, I see this destruction coming, and have published these things to warn Jews not to immigrate to “Israel,” where they would be in great danger. For my trouble, I am called “anti-semitic” and stand accused of hating Jews! What an irony! If I really hated Jews, I would donate money so that more of them could immigrate to Tel Aviv. Then when Jeremiah 19:11 is fulfilled, and God destroys Jerusalem, I could rejoice that I was responsible for a few more Jewish families being killed.

But no, I do not hate Jews. I hate no one. My opposition to Zionism is based upon my understanding of Scripture. I do not want to become a modern Judas, whose office was given to another (Acts 1:20). It is my desire that all men be saved and that all come to a knowledge of Jesus Christ. Yet because the Scripture prophesies the casting out of the bondwoman (Hagar, the old Jerusalem), I must point to the way men may escape the judgment to come."

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.org/who_is_an_israelite.htm

Coincidence is God's method of remaining anonymous.

[shakinginmyshoes]

Do you have any links to evidence that Jews influenced Martin Luther?

Yeah.

Martin Luther's book The Jews and Their Lies.
http://www.humanitas-international.org/showcase/chronography/documents/luther-jews.htm

and here, straight out of that most Jewishly-vetted source, wikipedia:

Early in his life, Luther had argued that the Jews had been prevented from converting to Christianity by the proclamation of what he believed to be an impure gospel by the Catholic Church, and he believed they would respond favorably to the evangelical message if it were presented to them gently.

Martin Luther GOT his idea that the Jews' problem with Christianity was corruption in the Catholic Church, from the Jews while trying to convert them as a young man.
And when they didn't convert DESPITE his reformation and break with the Church, he wrote The Jews and Their Lies.

[cedarchopper]

I think Islam is incompatible with Western Culture in general. I've witness first hand in Denmark how incompatible the two are. Denmark is (was) about the most tolerate and welcoming country you could find in the West, and they allowed many Muslims to come and live...but it has turned into a disaster. Their generous social system is being bankrupted by abuse...75% of the benefits are now paid out to Muslim immigrates. Almost every rape is committed by Muslim immigrates, almost all crimes for that matter. It was a huge mistake and the country is rapidly reversing policy.

At the same time, the US War on Islam is not homegrown American, it is Israeli control of the US political, media, and monetary systems that is at war with Islam.

America is basically not American anymore, it is an easily controlled hierarchy with Israeli/Zionist at the controls.

We are getting it from all sides and the outcome is not looking good from any direction.

[illumin19]

You adopted christianity from an "eastern philosophy" my dear, you do know this right?
Foof.

That's the argument the "judeo-christians" try to make.

Hahaha....nice try, you let me know where Europeans knew of anything called a Messiah/Christ without the use of the Torah/Tehillim in the present form/packaging of what is today known as "the bible". I guess the "old testament" is European too right? :D
Fact is, the Catholic Church changed it all into something entirely unique to Europeans; the traditions of monogamy, of "universalism" (dammit); of the commoner being of equal value in his humanity as the nobility, and the nobles being answerable for his actions, too, as well as that women are valuable, not property to be bought and sold. Also, they took the best ideas of the pagans, such as Christmas being at the time of the winter solstice.

You're mixing the actual scriptures with traditions of paganism (which is more roman/european than "old testament") which is not native to the original teachings of the messiah/christ.

So, no, Christianity is what it is because it is a product of the European mind. The Jews (orientals) did NOT create the thinking that led to Catholicism. Catholicism is an expression of the Euros' genetics.

Modern/mainstream christianity yes, you are correct. Teachings/life of the messiah/christ not so much. He lived and taught/explained the Torah. Capital punishment was still there, though forgiveness and mercy was better. THE SHEMA was/is the most important law to him and his followers, THE ONENESS.....not a peep of 3 or "tri".
So, yea catholicism just might be an expression of Euro's genetics.
By the way, alot of my family is Catholic so I'm not judging anyone....stating facts.

[illumin19]

MessianicDruid,

I will not say Israelites are indeed living in "the west".....I'm questioning how "the west" is all of Israelite stock? Alot of people take names that aren't native in their tongue, doesn't make them spanish if they make a name for themselves in spanish though they're from Kenya.

Who or where are the sons of Japheth then? I thought Japheth's progeny populated Europe?
Anyone?

These are honest questions......

[shakinginmyshoes]

Teachings/life of the messiah/christ not so much

Huh. That's open for debate. No one argues that the "history" of Jesus happened in Palestine. But was he Divine, or not? Ay, there's the rub. For the
Jews, the idea of a Messiah involves bringing about political power and wealth for the Jews in the temporal, physical realm, and subjection of the Gentiles to them.
The Euros, however, reinterpreted Jesus as a savior of souls, the rewards of which are to be reaped in heaven. As I said, Euros made Christianity.

And, yes, 3-in-1 is most assuredly entirely a Euro idea, and the 3-in-1 is THE basis for Christianity. Because if Jesus is not divine, then there's no reason to worship him. If the Holy Spirit does not exist, then reforming of souls is not possible.

The "idea" of a savior can not be totally attributed to the Jews or the Old Testament, either. The proto-Indo-European religion, predating Judaism, has elements of all of it. Mithra, in fact, seems to be the basis for much of the elements of the Christ story. And it seems to be a Roman/Greek invention:

http://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Jesus_and_Mithra

"The Iranian connection, and with it Cumont's interpretation of the tauroctony, came under concerted attack at the First International Congress of Mithraic Studies, held at the University of Manchester in 1971. Several scholars, chief among them John Hinnells of Manchester and R.L. Gordon of the University of East Anglia, suggested that Mithraism had in fact been created as a completely new religion somewhere in the Greco-Roman world and that it had merely adopted the name of the Iranian god to give itself an exotic flavor and an aura of antiquity. "



Here's a question to ponder: Who provided to whom the PIE religion? Did the Indians of the Indus Valley bring it to the Euros, or vice versa? Why is White skin valued in India? Perhaps because the PIEl religion believers were White Euros who came to India as rulers, bringing the PIE with them?

The cult of Mithra looks to be the basis for much of the Christ story.

http://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Jesus_and_Mithra

"The Iranian connection, and with it Cumont's interpretation of the tauroctony, came under concerted attack at the First International Congress of Mithraic Studies, held at the University of Manchester in 1971. Several scholars, chief among them John Hinnells of Manchester and R.L. Gordon of the University of East Anglia, suggested that Mithraism had in fact been created as a completely new religion somewhere in the Greco-Roman world and that it had merely adopted the name of the Iranian god to give itself an exotic flavor and an aura of antiquity. "

[messianicdruid]

I'm questioning how "the west" is all of Israelite stock? These are honest questions......


No one is saying ALL members of the west are of Israelite stock. Hahaha....nice try.

Our people took names from their occupations, their locality, the clan, their ancestors etc., just like other people. Names change. That's why most Israelites have forgotten they are Israelites. God changed their names as they were scattered. The sons of Japheth probably greeted members of the Tribes as they travelled through the Caucausus Mountains. They called them caucausians, assuming this was their origin. The name stuck.

There are many other ways to trace the Israelites of the dispersion, which parts of the bible are specifically addressed to. The Apostles were sent to preach to them the good news, that God had paid the penalty for their adultery {the express reason for them being divorced, 'put away in punishment' = appolumi = lost}, and they could be reconciled.

Israelites have inherited great promises, but they also have great responsibilities.

http://www.stonekingdom.org/articles/A.Caution.1894.pdf

[PatColo]

This Rense/Glenn squabble has carried on, getting quite shrill and embarrassing really.

Makow:
Mark Glenn's Attack on Jeff Rense (http://www.henrymakow.com/rense.html)

MG:
Open Letter To Henry Makow, PhD (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/open-letter-to-henry-makow-phd/)

MG:
Rense Sends Out More of His Dogs (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/10/25/rense-sends-out-more-of-his-dogs/)

MG:
God, What a Month It’s Been (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/10/25/god-what-a-month-it%e2%80%99s-been/)

Paul Drockton, an article Rense linked to:
Is Mark Glenn an Intelligence Asset? (http://www.moneyteachers.org/Mark+Glenn+Intelligence+Asset.html)

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[PatColo]

The very joo-wise Deana Spingola had 2 guests on today, both of them Devvy-Kidd-esque "immigration" alarmist/zio-agitpropers. Open link for Mami's blog reader comments- one mentioned that Spingola was quiet/neutral while the callers ripped the 2 guests. 89 mins comm free:

Spingola Speaks 2013.02.07 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/02/spingola-speaks-20130207.html)



http://www.spingola.com/Deanna%2005.jpg (http://www.spingola.com/Deanna%2005.jpg)
Guest: 11-12: Frosty Wooldridge (http://www.frostywooldridge./); author of America on the Brink: The Next Added 100 Million Americans

12-1: Jessica Vaughan of the Center for Immigration Studies (http://www.cis.org/)

Deanna's site (http://www.spingola.com/radio_schedule.html)

News Page (http://mynewspage.wordpress.com/websites/deanna-spingola/)

Official chat room (http://spingola.chatango.com/)

Join Spingola Speaks Email List (spingolaspeaks-subscribe@yahoogroups.com)

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There's also this Ozzy radio host Mami's been posting for some reason- he takes the 'Geert Wilders/Pamela Geller' zio-tool approach of agitproping to sew resentment towards muslim savages... his shtick is rising like a lead balloon, LOL- check the Mami's reader comments:
Australia Calling episode 5 with Derrick MacThomas 2013.02.07 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/02/australia-calling-episode-5-with.html) (7 comments ATM)


Australia Calling episode 4 with Derrick MacThomas 2013.01.31 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/01/australia-calling-episode-4-with.html) (23 comments)

[Celtic Rogue]

Are you denying that Muslims engage in Hajj (pilgrimage to Mecca) to worship a meteorite called the Kaaba Stone?

What sort of freak religion worships a rock?

<a href="http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS330US330&q=kaaba%20stone&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1440&bih=706">Google (http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS330US330&q=kaaba%20stone&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1440&bih=706&quot;>Google) Images of Muslims worshiping a rock</a>

First the zionist have you guys fighting over the wrong people again. Right left, christian muslim, this nation or that nation, red blue, pro gun antigun ... all false paradigms... when in reality it should be us against the zios! I am not a muslim lover or hater... I hate only the individual when they do wrong... I will not group people together as that is not going to resolve the problem.

The same sort of people that worship an ancient torture/killing device! Or same as the people that send their soldiers to the holy land to take lands that are not theirs. All RELIGIONS... All are whacked and make people fight each other over their beliefs. As I have stated before... Religion is a mental disease. I have seen so called good christians call for the killing of people that have different beliefs than they do. So whats the difference?

DIVIDE AND CONQUER! Dont buy into it!