View Full Version : any ideas why russia so hot.?
cortez
10th August 2010, 09:24 AM
besides global warming. proof of weather patterns to offset global warming cries.
Spectrism
10th August 2010, 09:29 AM
Notice also record cold temperatures in the southern hemisphere- Peru, Bolivia.
We will be seeing extremely wild swings in climate. We will also see one third of the trees and all of the grasses burned up. The grains will be VERY expensive. Store these away NOW.
platinumdude
10th August 2010, 10:12 AM
Nibiru is coming.
Still Barbaro
10th August 2010, 11:20 AM
besides global warming. proof of weather patterns to offset global warming cries.
Well, this is the hotter year or Summer in the history of the world (according to some newscast that was one, sorry I forgot which one).
As for glocal warming, I have always tended to be believe that humans are a factor in the global warming.
It's a fact that the world is getting hotter. The debate is whether it's another natural Earth cycle, or if humans are causing it.
Phoenix
10th August 2010, 11:53 AM
Fruit is not ripening in SoCal; the reverse of Russia.
iOWNme
10th August 2010, 11:55 AM
Maybe that MASSIVE Hydroton gas factory that we continually circle around may have something to do with it?
Hey, Im just spit ballin'.....
cortez
10th August 2010, 11:58 AM
Maybe that MASSIVE Hydroton gas factory that we continually circle around may have something to do with it?
Hey, Im just spit ballin'.....
yes i believe so too. i was wondering if there were certain jet stream fluxuations or possible solar activity that could actually be pointed out rather than just someone yelling "global warming"
dead precedent
10th August 2010, 12:11 PM
Call me silly ,but I was expecting pics of some hot Ukrainian girls ;) :D
cortez
10th August 2010, 12:12 PM
Call me silly ,but I was expecting pics of some hot Ukrainian girls ;) :D
here we go ::)
keehah
10th August 2010, 12:16 PM
Just looking for clues, this from a pro-CO2 tax guy, but it could mean more. Trade wind changes, what about a stalled or slower North Atlantic Current?
http://climateprogress.org/2010/08/09/russia-heat-wave-one-thousand-years-global-warming/
July SSTs in the tropical Atlantic set a new record
Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) in the Atlantic’s Main Development Region for hurricanes had their warmest July on record, according to an analysis I did of historical SST data from the UK Hadley Center. SST data goes back to 1850, though there is much missing data before 1910 and during WWI and WWII. SSTs in the Main Development Region (10°N to 20°N and 20°W to 80°W) were 1.33°C above average during July, beating the previous record of 1.19°C set in July 2005. July 2010 was the sixth straight record warm month in the tropical Atlantic, and had the third warmest anomaly of any month in history. The five warmest months in history for the tropical Atlantic have all occurred this year. As I explained in detail in a post on record February SSTs in the Atlantic, the Arctic Oscillation (AO) and its close cousin, the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), are largely to blame for the record SSTs, though global warming and Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) also play a role.
The magnitude of the anomaly has increased slightly since June, because trade winds over the tropical Atlantic were at below-normal speeds during July. These lower trade wind speeds were due to the fact that the Bermuda-Azores High had below-normal surface pressures over the past month. The Bermuda-Azores High and its associated trade winds are forecast to remain at below-average strength during the next two weeks, according to the latest runs of the GFS model. This means that Atlantic SST anomalies will continue to stay at record warm levels during the remainder of August, and probably during September as well. This should significantly increase the odds of getting major hurricanes in the Atlantic during the peak part of hurricane season, mid-August through mid-October.
mamboni
10th August 2010, 12:23 PM
I have a notion....
cortez
10th August 2010, 12:26 PM
Just looking for clues, this from a pro-CO2 tax guy, but it could mean more. Trade wind changes, what about a stalled or slower North Atlantic Current?
http://climateprogress.org/2010/08/09/russia-heat-wave-one-thousand-years-global-warming/
July SSTs in the tropical Atlantic set a new record
Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) in the Atlantic’s Main Development Region for hurricanes had their warmest July on record, according to an analysis I did of historical SST data from the UK Hadley Center. SST data goes back to 1850, though there is much missing data before 1910 and during WWI and WWII. SSTs in the Main Development Region (10°N to 20°N and 20°W to 80°W) were 1.33°C above average during July, beating the previous record of 1.19°C set in July 2005. July 2010 was the sixth straight record warm month in the tropical Atlantic, and had the third warmest anomaly of any month in history. The five warmest months in history for the tropical Atlantic have all occurred this year. As I explained in detail in a post on record February SSTs in the Atlantic, the Arctic Oscillation (AO) and its close cousin, the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), are largely to blame for the record SSTs, though global warming and Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) also play a role.
The magnitude of the anomaly has increased slightly since June, because trade winds over the tropical Atlantic were at below-normal speeds during July. These lower trade wind speeds were due to the fact that the Bermuda-Azores High had below-normal surface pressures over the past month. The Bermuda-Azores High and its associated trade winds are forecast to remain at below-average strength during the next two weeks, according to the latest runs of the GFS model. This means that Atlantic SST anomalies will continue to stay at record warm levels during the remainder of August, and probably during September as well. This should significantly increase the odds of getting major hurricanes in the Atlantic during the peak part of hurricane season, mid-August through mid-October.
dispersents??
DMac
10th August 2010, 12:29 PM
Just looking for clues, this from a pro-CO2 tax guy, but it could mean more. Trade wind changes, what about a stalled or slower North Atlantic Current?
http://climateprogress.org/2010/08/09/russia-heat-wave-one-thousand-years-global-warming/
July SSTs in the tropical Atlantic set a new record
Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) in the Atlantic’s Main Development Region for hurricanes had their warmest July on record, according to an analysis I did of historical SST data from the UK Hadley Center. SST data goes back to 1850, though there is much missing data before 1910 and during WWI and WWII. SSTs in the Main Development Region (10°N to 20°N and 20°W to 80°W) were 1.33°C above average during July, beating the previous record of 1.19°C set in July 2005. July 2010 was the sixth straight record warm month in the tropical Atlantic, and had the third warmest anomaly of any month in history. The five warmest months in history for the tropical Atlantic have all occurred this year. As I explained in detail in a post on record February SSTs in the Atlantic, the Arctic Oscillation (AO) and its close cousin, the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), are largely to blame for the record SSTs, though global warming and Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) also play a role.
The magnitude of the anomaly has increased slightly since June, because trade winds over the tropical Atlantic were at below-normal speeds during July. These lower trade wind speeds were due to the fact that the Bermuda-Azores High had below-normal surface pressures over the past month. The Bermuda-Azores High and its associated trade winds are forecast to remain at below-average strength during the next two weeks, according to the latest runs of the GFS model. This means that Atlantic SST anomalies will continue to stay at record warm levels during the remainder of August, and probably during September as well. This should significantly increase the odds of getting major hurricanes in the Atlantic during the peak part of hurricane season, mid-August through mid-October.
I was thinking along those lines as well. The impact of the sun can never be overlooked as it is the "source", so to speak, of all warming in the Milky Way. I wonder what effect the solar minimum has had on the oceans and how a changing ocean is affecting climate across the globe.
We have been dealing with La Nina in 2010 (and into 2011, per NOAA)
http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_advisory/ensodisc.html
keehah
10th August 2010, 12:43 PM
Here is some more scond hand info. I'm finding it really hard to google info since last fall on news for weather of the polar vortex, trade winds, and north atlantic current. I've been following such weather for years and now one can not longer just google it up.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2012581287_weather10m.html
[August 9 2010] But from Seattle to San Diego, the West Coast has been trapped in a twilight zone of drizzle, fog and temperatures more conducive to fleece than bikinis.
The blame belongs to an unusually strong high-pressure system sprawled across more than 1,000 square miles of the Pacific. The blob has been shoving cool marine air and clouds toward the coast, University of Washington meteorologist Cliff Mass said.
Add a conveyor belt of storm systems funneled from Alaska, and you have August days when you might be tempted to turn on the furnace.
...This summer appears to be the most cloud-shrouded in Seattle since measurements were started in 1951, Johnstone said.
Saul Mine
10th August 2010, 06:51 PM
Because they haven't been thinking clean thoughts!
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/5/22/129190648382769017.jpg
K_Flynn
10th August 2010, 07:00 PM
besides global warming. proof of weather patterns to offset global warming cries.
Because it's an unusually warm year?
During the last ice age it was much colder than now. Humans didn't have anything to do with the previous ice age going away, why must they have something to do with an unusually warm year in one part of the world?
keehah
10th August 2010, 09:44 PM
Also includes a video showing a jet stream vortex over Moscow, it seems the eddie disturbances are causing the Pakistan and China flooding.
Much like that thing Drudge image above, right on Moscow. :-*
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/asia_pacific/pakistan+floods+struggle+to+reach+victims/3738877
Normally the jet stream is a giant loop of high speed winds that whip round the upper atmosphere, writes science correspondent Tom Clarke.
The jet stream isn't involved in day to day weather - it's too high up - but because it pushes the atmosphere around it's very important in steering large scale weather patterns below.
The stream has split in two. One arm has gone north, another south. The patch in the middle is Russia's drought. A circulating pattern of air has been sitting over Russia for far longer than normal, causing the extreme temperatures and wildfires they've had there.
But what's happening over Pakistan is even stranger. The southern arm of the Jet stream has looped down so far it has crossed over the Himalayas into north western Pakistan. Experts at the Met Office tell me this is very unusual.
And the result is that the fast moving jets stream winds high up has helped suck the warm, wet, monsoon air even faster and higher into the atmosphere - and that has caused rains like no-one can remember. It has turbo charged the monsoon if you like. They're not sure that's ever happened before.
FreeEnergy
10th August 2010, 10:07 PM
Also includes a video showing a jet stream vortex over Moscow, it seems the eddie disturbances are causing the Pakistan and China flooding.
Much like that thing Drudge image above, right on Moscow. :-*
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/asia_pacific/pakistan+floods+struggle+to+reach+victims/3738877
Normally the jet stream is a giant loop of high speed winds that whip round the upper atmosphere, writes science correspondent Tom Clarke.
The jet stream isn't involved in day to day weather - it's too high up - but because it pushes the atmosphere around it's very important in steering large scale weather patterns below.
The stream has split in two. One arm has gone north, another south. The patch in the middle is Russia's drought. A circulating pattern of air has been sitting over Russia for far longer than normal, causing the extreme temperatures and wildfires they've had there.
But what's happening over Pakistan is even stranger. The southern arm of the Jet stream has looped down so far it has crossed over the Himalayas into north western Pakistan. Experts at the Met Office tell me this is very unusual.
And the result is that the fast moving jets stream winds high up has helped suck the warm, wet, monsoon air even faster and higher into the atmosphere - and that has caused rains like no-one can remember. It has turbo charged the monsoon if you like. They're not sure that's ever happened before.
Not to start a conspiracy...but Russia's presidential press has already released news that they are blaming 3 HAARP weather altering stations US has - in Alaska, in Greenland and somewhere else, I forgot (one of them is still building - oh, and if doesn't work "as intended", why build 3?).
No joke.
Joe King
10th August 2010, 10:10 PM
besides global warming. proof of weather patterns to offset global warming cries.
Well, this is the hotter year or Summer in the history of the world (according to some newscast that was one, sorry I forgot which one).
As for global warming, I have always tended to be believe that humans are a factor in the global warming.
It's a fact that the world is getting hotter. The debate is whether it's another natural Earth cycle, or if humans are causing it.
Until they can show how it's been hotter in the past and the poor polar bears didn't die, I'm not buying it.
They also need to explain how CO2 shows as a lagging indicator per the ice core samples they've taken that date back 400,000 years.
i.e. Co2 follows warming.
If you want to reduce CO2, just look at the chart to see where the largest reductions could be made that might actually make a difference.
That is, if a reduction is even necessary.
Personally, I like CO2. It's a real good thing that CO2.
After all, we couldn't breathe without it.
Neuro
10th August 2010, 10:30 PM
Could it be that the lower activity of the sun, reduces rate of change in weather patterns on earth? So that a high pressure over Russia, that generates a hot and sunny weather in the summer, just remains longer? If it had happened in the winter, the temperatures would have been extremely cold instead...
old steel
10th August 2010, 10:33 PM
Weather wars.
keehah
10th August 2010, 10:45 PM
This is what I have been looking for!
{Images not from article}
http://www.daukas.com/Geoscience/MAtour/images/Rossby2.jpg
New Scientist: Frozen jet stream [Rossby waves] leads to flood, fire and famine (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727730.101-frozen-jet-stream-leads-to-flood-fire-and-famine.html)
10 August 2010 by Michael Marshall
Raging wildfires in western Russia have reportedly doubled average daily death rates in Moscow. Diluvial rains over northern Pakistan are surging south – the UN reports that 6 million have been affected by the resulting floods.
It now seems that these two apparently disconnected events have a common cause. They are linked to the heatwave that killed more than 60 in Japan, and the end of the warm spell in western Europe. The unusual weather in the US and Canada last month also has a similar cause.
According to meteorologists monitoring the atmosphere above the northern hemisphere, unusual holding patterns in the jet stream are to blame. As a result, weather systems sat still. Temperatures rocketed and rainfall reached extremes.
Renowned for its influence on European and Asian weather, the jet stream flows between 7 and 12 kilometres above ground. In its basic form it is a current of fast-moving air that bobs north and south as it rushes around the globe from west to east. Its wave-like shape is caused by Rossby waves – powerful spinning wind currents that push the jet stream alternately north and south like a giant game of pinball.
In recent weeks, meteorologists have noticed a change in the jet stream's normal pattern. Its waves normally shift east, dragging weather systems along with it. But in mid-July they ground to a halt, says Mike Blackburn of the University of Reading, UK (see diagram). There was a similar pattern over the US in late June.
Stationary patterns in the jet stream are called "blocking events". They are the consequence of strong Rossby waves, which push westward against the flow of the jet stream. They are normally overpowered by the jet stream's eastward flow, but they can match it if they get strong enough. When this happens, the jet stream's meanders hold steady, says Blackburn, creating the perfect conditions for extreme weather.
A static jet stream freezes in place the weather systems that sit inside the peaks and troughs of its meanders. Warm air to the south of the jet stream gets sucked north into the "peaks". The "troughs" on the other hand, draw in cold, low-pressure air from the north. Normally, these systems are constantly on the move – but not during a blocking event.
And so it was that Pakistan fell victim to torrents of rain. The blocking event coincided with the summer monsoon, bringing down additional rain on the mountains to the north of the country. It was the final straw for the Indus's congested river bed (see "Thirst for Indus water upped flood risk").
Similarly, as the static jet stream snaked north over Russia, it pulled in a constant stream of hot air from Africa. The resulting heatwave is responsible for extensive drought and nearly 800 wildfires at the latest count. The same effect is probably responsible for the heatwave in Japan, which killed over 60 people in late July. At the same time, the blocking event put an end to unusually warm weather in western Europe.
Blocking events are not the preserve of Europe and Asia. Back in June, a similar pattern developed over the US, allowing a high-pressure system to sit over the eastern seaboard and push up the mercury. Meanwhile, the Midwest was bombarded by air from the north, with chilly effects. Instead of moving on in a matter of days, "the pattern persisted for more than a week", says Deke Arndt of the US National Climatic Data Center in North Carolina.
So what is the root cause of all of this? Meteorologists are unsure. Climate change models predict that rising greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere will drive up the number of extreme heat events. Whether this is because greenhouse gas concentrations are linked to blocking events or because of some other mechanism entirely is impossible to say. Gerald Meehl of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado – who has done much of this modelling himself – points out that the resolution in climate models is too low to reproduce atmospheric patterns like blocking events. So they cannot say anything about whether or not their frequency will change.
There is some tentative evidence that the sun may be involved. Earlier this year astrophysicist Mike Lockwood of the University of Reading, UK, showed that winter blocking events were more likely to happen over Europe when solar activity is low – triggering freezing winters (New Scientist, 17 April, p 6).
Now he says he has evidence from 350 years of historical records to show that low solar activity is also associated with summer blocking events (Environmental Research Letters, in press). "There's enough evidence to suspect that the jet stream behaviour is being modulated by the sun," he says.
Blackburn says that blocking events have been unusually common over the last three years, for instance, causing severe floods in the UK and heatwaves in eastern Europe in 2007. Solar activity has been low throughout.
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http://www.leif.org/research/Erl75.png
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/03/the-interplanetary-magnetic-field-is-at-the-lowest-point-since-1913/
David Archibald writes to tell me that the IMF has hit “rock bottom†and may go lower still. Watching the IMF is a good indicator of the activity of the Sun’s internal magnetic dynamo. Looking at this graph from Archibald, and Lief’s graph below one could conclude that the sun’s inner magnetics are quieter than any time in the last 90+ years...
From Leif’s graph, it appears that the last time the IMF got this low was in 1913 during that lull in solar activity.
Long-term ( ∼130 years) reconstruction of the interplanetar y magnetic field (IMF) based on geomagnetic indices
indicates that the solar wind magnetic field strength has a “floor,†a baseline value in annual averages that it approaches at each 11 yr solar minimum. In the ecliptic plane at 1 AU, the IMF floor is ∼4.6 nT, a value substantiated by direct solar wind measurements and cosmogenic nuclei data...
Solar cycle variations of the IMF strength ride on top of the floor. The floor has implications for (1) the solar wind during grand minimaâ€â€we are given a glimpse of Maunder minimum conditions at ever y 11 yr minimum;
Horn
11th August 2010, 12:35 PM
I remember reading somewhere that the Earth's magnetic field was charged from these currents, & the jet-stream in particular which was moving more Northward at approx. 10 miles a year was becoming more turbulent. It was theorized at the time that it was somehow compensating the charge, by a weakness in the Ocean's currents.
Horn
12th August 2010, 08:30 AM
Kinda backs up the prognossis.
Neuro
12th August 2010, 09:02 AM
Excellent article Keehah!
I especially like it because it backs up my half baked theory... ;)
keehah
12th August 2010, 09:27 AM
Here is another we can appreciate.
Der Spiegel: 'The Kremlin's Central Control Is the Real Disaster' (http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,710499,00.html)
Meanwhile, a military garrison 70 kilometers outside Moscow has moved all its rockets and artillery to a safer location as wildfires advance in the region. On Wednesday, President Dmitry Medvedev dismissed several military officers after a fire ravaged another military base, burning 200 aircraft and helicopters to the ground. And all hazardous material has been removed from the Sarov nuclear research facility, around 480 kilometers (300 miles) east of Moscow. Fires have been raging just a few kilometers away from the site.
Prime Minister Vladmir Putin, who has made a point of visiting many of the affected areas, on Thursday announced that wheat exports would be halted until the end of the year. Russia, one of the world's biggest exporters of grain, will ban the exports from Aug. 15 to Dec. 31, with the possibility of extending the prohibition into the following year. Last week, Russian officials stated that 20 percent of its wheat crop this year had been destroyed by drought and wildfires. "We need to prevent a rise in domestic food prices, we need to preserve the number of cattle and build up reserves for next year," Putin said during a televised cabinet meeting.
On the editorial pages on Friday, the German press argues that the overly centralized Russian state was ill-equipped to deal with a disaster on this scale.
Sparky
12th August 2010, 09:26 PM
This article is so scientifically weak.
After spending many paragraphs describing blocking patterns, which is not a new atmospheric phenomenon, they transition to this:
...Climate change models predict that rising greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere will drive up the number of extreme heat events. Whether this is because greenhouse gas concentrations are linked to blocking events or because of some other mechanism entirely is impossible to say.
Nowhere does it say that greenhouse gasses are correlated to blocking events, and it doesn't even pose a theory why they would be related.
Here's their logic:
greenhouse -> heating ?
blocking -> heating
Therefore, greenhouse-> blocking
Are you kidding me?
Jet stream blocking isn't new, droughts aren't new, floods aren't new.
Horn
12th August 2010, 09:56 PM
Therefore, greenhouse-> blocking
Are you kidding me?
Jet stream blocking isn't new, droughts aren't new, floods aren't new.
I didn't really walk away with that impression at all.
Why are we so categorically different, Sparky? :-*
Sparky
12th August 2010, 10:39 PM
Okay, look at the presentation logic. It's a total mis-direction.
First, they correctly identify jet stream blocking as cause of the persistent extreme weather:
Blocking events are not the preserve of Europe and Asia. Back in June, a similar pattern developed over the US, allowing a high-pressure system to sit over the eastern seaboard and push up the mercury. Meanwhile, the Midwest was bombarded by air from the north, with chilly effects. Instead of moving on in a matter of days, "the pattern persisted for more than a week", says Deke Arndt of the US National Climatic Data Center in North Carolina.
Then comes the mis-direction. After this eloquent discussion of blocking, they manipulate the discussion toward greenhouse gases, which are not relevant:
So what is the root cause of all of this? Meteorologists are unsure. Climate change models predict that rising greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere will drive up the number of extreme heat events.
Then they make the unsubstantiated connection between greenhouse gases and blocking:
Whether this is because greenhouse gas concentrations are linked to blocking events or because of some other mechanism entirely is impossible to say.
Re-read that sentence. They are not claiming that greenhouse gases are linked to blocking. They are not providing evidence it is linked to blocking. They are not quoting experts who claim it is related to blocking. They aren't saying anything! They're just trying to get the two terms in your head at the same time so that YOU'LL make the connection.
Then they quote an expert:
Gerald Meehl of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado – who has done much of this modelling himself – points out that the resolution in climate models is too low to reproduce atmospheric patterns like blocking events. So they cannot say anything about whether or not their frequency will change.
Is Mr. Meehl linking greenhouse gases to blocking? No. He says that the climate models which tie greenhouse gases to warming don't have the resolution to detect or observe blocking. So he has made NO statement about the relationship between greenhouse gases and blocking.
So what am I left with? I'm left with no actual claim, no evidence, and not even a theory. The only thing good about this article is that it correctly points out that atmospheric blocking, which has been observed since the very beginning of jet stream observations, is responsible for the prolonged extremes. The article tries to mis-direct the reader by introducing global warming and greenhouse gases, while making no actual claims about them. It's like subliminal advertising.
Phoenix
12th August 2010, 11:31 PM
The US Government has used the HAARP ionospheric weapon system to shift the Jet Stream out of position, resulting in historically unprecedented heat across Russia, one of the US/Israel "enemies."
Phoenix
12th August 2010, 11:33 PM
Not to start a conspiracy...but Russia's presidential press has already released news that they are blaming 3 HAARP weather altering stations US has - in Alaska, in Greenland and somewhere else, I forgot (one of them is still building - oh, and if doesn't work "as intended", why build 3?).
No joke.
It ain't a joke, because Occam's Razor says that's exactly what's going on.
The HAARP weapon system was designed to cause the effects that have shifted the Jet Stream out of position.
And three "ionospheric heaters" are being deployed due to the necessity of aiming them at the "right" targets.
Neuro
13th August 2010, 02:34 AM
Therefore, greenhouse-> blocking
Are you kidding me?
Jet stream blocking isn't new, droughts aren't new, floods aren't new.
I didn't really walk away with that impression at all.
Why are we so categorically different, Sparky? :-*
I agree with Horn. The impression I got from the article was that a stronger case was made for solar cooling creating the blocking of weather patterns, certainly the article dealt with green house warming as a generator for the blocking, but without presenting any convincing evidence for the theory.
Then we have the third theory of the blocking event, that HAARP or some other type of Ionospheric man made modulation is responsible for the blocking.
I have to concur using Occams razor, though, that it is most likely a non-man-made event, triggered by the extreme solar minimum we've had. After all blocking events were not unheard of prior to HAARP, neither before the bs of man-made global warming supposedly occuring.
Spectrism
13th August 2010, 05:12 AM
The primary greenhouse gas is water vapor.
I think we actually have a decrease in greenhouse gases (as evidenced by droughts). The ultimate greenhouse is an envelope around the entire surface. In a greenhouse, the heat is evenly dispersed while the effects of direct radiation are distributed. What we are seeing is a LACK of greenhouse effect.
What are the jets spraying in those chemtrails? Are they dropping alumina crystals to seed clouds and drain water vapor from the skies? Also, volcanic activity can be a source of cloud seeding- taking out thousands of tons of water.
Neuro
13th August 2010, 03:13 PM
Good thinking Dpectrism...
Could the extreme weather in Russia be an effect of the Icelandic volcanic eruption. The Icelandic eruption in 1780's created extreme drought in France, which lead to the French revolution due to starvation. However I think the eruptions were far greater in magnitude then...
Horn
14th August 2010, 09:46 AM
Is like 50 degrees Fahrenheit in Russia on one hand, and a hundred on the other.
old steel
14th August 2010, 10:07 AM
Nibiru is coming.
Zetas right again! ;D
Horn
14th August 2010, 10:07 AM
So what am I left with? I'm left with no actual claim, no evidence, and not even a theory. The only thing good about this article is that it correctly points out that atmospheric blocking, which has been observed since the very beginning of jet stream observations, is responsible for the prolonged extremes. The article tries to mis-direct the reader by introducing global warming and greenhouse gases, while making no actual claims about them. It's like subliminal advertising.
Well, I think its due to the sun's phase, was that a subliminal implant aswell?
If anything was subliminal, the effect seems to excite those opposed to the Global Warming genre... :oo-->
old steel
14th August 2010, 10:11 AM
HAARP is running the show.
Heat and fire in Russia and rain with floods in China the two best friends of the Zionist machine running America.
I've read the jet stream actually stalled out.
It doesn't do that all on it's own.
Sparky
14th August 2010, 10:20 AM
...
I've read the jet stream actually stalled out.
It doesn't do that all on it's own.
Actually, it does.
All weather is the result of nature's attempt to reach thermal equilibrium, which it can never achieve because of differential heating from pole to equator on a rotating sphere. Sometimes it gets stuck in a relatively efficient pattern, until some new chaotically-developed imbalance disrupts it, and then it starts to shift again.
Horn
14th August 2010, 01:03 PM
...
I've read the jet stream actually stalled out.
It doesn't do that all on it's own.
Actually, it does.
All weather is the result of nature's attempt to reach thermal equilibrium, which it can never achieve because of differential heating from pole to equator on a rotating sphere. Sometimes it gets stuck in a relatively efficient pattern, until some new chaotically-developed imbalance disrupts it, and then it starts to shift again.
So it has some sort of "built-in" mechanism for corruption?
Are we saying that we should take this into account as natural phenomenon?
wildcard
14th August 2010, 01:05 PM
THIS (http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1037&bih=441&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=hot+russian+ladies&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=)
Horn
15th August 2010, 09:53 AM
THIS (http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1037&bih=441&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=hot+russian+ladies&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=)
Taken from the link
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/young-hot-russian-mail-order-brides-4.jpg
keehah
15th August 2010, 10:13 AM
What forces stall the jetstream?
As natural as the local forces only allowing you 1 day a week to water. Then leaving the sprinkler running on 1/2 your garden all day while other half gets no water. Except your garden is Russia and much of middle Asia, so a day to you is like a month or two to us. 8)
And/or perhaps related to Cymatics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cymatics) (from Greek: κῦμα "wave") and of course the forces that power the jet stream. Cymatics effects would be expected to be observed most easily when the forces driving the jet stream are low or stable. Like a solar minimum.
Saturn does it more majestically than we do.
http://www.naturalnews.com/028797_Saturn_hexagon.html
There is a large rotating hexagon circling the north pole of Saturn.
This isn't some conspiracy theory. It's not some sort of far-fetched interpretation of random organic structure. It is quite clearly a massive hexagon, and it's circling the north pole of Saturn as we speak. And by "massive", I mean this hexagon is larger than the planet Earth.
Straight from the NASA website: "This is a very strange feature, lying in a precise geometric fashion with six nearly equally straight sides," said Kevin Baines, atmospheric expert and member of Cassini's visual and infrared mapping spectrometer team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. "We've never seen anything like this on any other planet. Indeed, Saturn's thick atmosphere where circularly-shaped waves and convective cells dominate is perhaps the last place you'd expect to see such a six-sided geometric figure, yet there it is."
The hexagon, according to NASA, is 60 miles thick (deep) and an astonishing 15,000 miles wide.
Earth when stalled ______ When not stalled.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/N_Jetstream_Rossby_Waves_N.gif/440px-N_Jetstream_Rossby_Waves_N.gif
wildcard
15th August 2010, 02:33 PM
http://www.crystalinks.com/2001monolith.jpg
Arthur C. Clarke knew what he was talking about. Time to evolve you apes! ;D
Horn
16th August 2010, 02:14 PM
Arthur C. Clarke knew what he was talking about. Time to evolve you apes! ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUk84bKUDI0
Saul Mine
16th August 2010, 02:23 PM
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=45046 Satellite pix
http://chistoprudov.livejournal.com/44730.html More pictures around Moscow
http://www.hs.fi/videot/1135258625336/ It's hot in Russia, so thousands of people get drunk and drown.
Horn
16th August 2010, 03:21 PM
Some good pic links there from Saul. Here's one.
keehah
19th August 2010, 02:28 PM
CanadaFreePress: Dr. Tim Ball Monday, August 16, 2010 (http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/26609)
The most likely cause of the Wave sequence is sinuosity or the sine wave pattern that develops whenever there is flow through a uniform medium. For example they occur in the Gulf Stream/North Atlantic drift as it crosses the Atlantic. In this case it’s the faster river of air of the Vortex flowing through the upper atmosphere.
There are two patterns (Figure 3); Zonal with a few low amplitude waves and Meridional with high amplitude waves. The number of waves varies most in the Meridional flow where the amplitude determines the north south extent of the wave. This is the pattern creating the current weather.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/ball081610-3.jpg
Figure 3: Rossby Wave patterns. Source: Briggs, Smithson and Ball et al.,
The number and pattern of the waves is important in determining the type of weather patterns in the middle latitudes (35° to 65°). Cold air is denser than warm air, which means it determines what happens in these latitudes. Cold air advances pushing the warm air out of the way or warm air moves in as the cold air retreats. Zonal flow provides less variable weather, fewer north and south winds, and generally more predictable prevailing winds and weather. Meridional flow gives much more variable weather, more north and south winds and generally less predictable weather. It appears the pattern changes when the world is cooling. The cold air advances
We know Rossby Waves move from west to east usually at a relatively steady speed. As a result any station in the middle latitudes will generally experience the weather associated with being in the warm or cool air for approximately 4 to 6 weeks. We know when the Waves get large in amplitude blocking occurs and the weather patterns instead of lasting 4 - 6 weeks can double to 8-12 weeks. People become very uncomfortable as droughts, very wet, hot or cold conditions persist.
Many interesting comments in Joe's blog: http://www.accuweather.com/ukie/bastardi-europe-blog.asp?partner=accuweather
[Sunday Aug 15] This points out the extremity of the heat, but also the fact more area is below normal than above normal. Now dear reader, if we are to go wild over the extreme of Russian heat when large areas of Europe and Asia are below normal, than why are we not going wild and reporting with such vigor the extremes of cold in the Southern Hemisphere, or on the West Coast of the U.S., or the fact this may be the coldest summer on record (since 1958) north of 80 north. Combine that with a dearth of global tropical activity and one gets as much argument for cool side ideas as warm, but you wouldn't know it based on the press.
Horn
19th August 2010, 04:33 PM
why are we not going wild and reporting with such vigor the extremes of cold in the Southern Hemisphere, or on the West Coast of the U.S., or the fact this may be the coldest summer on record (since 1958) north of 80 north.
The world as a zebra slush bowl.
keehah
19th August 2010, 05:11 PM
She is cold. And she used the zebra to turn him to mush.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X75mry1LcFg
Horn
19th August 2010, 07:11 PM
It appears the pattern changes when the world is cooling. The cold air advances
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWMEl0KOg2o
Saul Mine
20th August 2010, 08:16 AM
Don't argue with weather.
PatColo
20th August 2010, 08:59 AM
This blogger "Lord Stirling" & truther-of-dubious-repute Dr. Bill Deagle, with an Italian scientist, have been touting this,
Gulf Stream - North Atlantic Current Dying, Loop Current in Gulf of Mexico Already Dead
Extreme heat/drought in Russia, Flooding in Asia, Bitter Cold in South America all connected to BP Oil Disaster. (http://europebusines.blogspot.com/2010/08/special-post.html)
also, the top of each day's blog entry lately has this, visit http://europebusines.blogspot.com for active hyperlinks to everything,
Why is the weather acting so extreme around the world? MSM will not show you this - video ~ link ~ A viewer of this news blog made this YouTube video!
Ice Age 4 - Dawn of the BP Oil Disaster - Gulf Stream (the loop) going, going, gone!! - video ~ link ~ link ~ Hip but scary.
Gulf Oil - Urgent Gulf Loop Current Changing - video ~ link ~ link ~ Dr. Bill Deagle interviewing Dr. Gianiuigi Zangari
Additional videos on BP Climate Change Nightmare ~ link ~ link ~ link ~ link ~Also see the following for a better understanding of the science involved: ~ link ~ link ~ link ~ link ~ link ~
Global Changes from the Dying Gulf Stream and North Atlantic Current
Current Velocities of the Gulf Stream ~ link ~
Here's the video in the first link, "Why is the weather acting so extreme around the world? MSM will not show you this "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57uMCjMMRvo
Sparky
20th August 2010, 09:50 AM
That video actually seems like worse propaganda than the mainstream media put out.
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