Neil Patrick Harris & Partner David Burtka Expecting Twins.

[Ponce]

As usual, I am confused........which one is going to be the mother?
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From 'Doogie' To Daddy: Neil Patrick Harris & Partner David Burtka Expecting Twins.

Soon-to-be parents Neil Patrick Harris and David Burtka pose at Paradise Pier at Disney's California Adventure in Anaheim, Calif., Aug. 14, 2010Disney WorldAccess Hollywood LOS ANGELES, Calif. -- Neil Patrick Harris is going to be a dad.

On Saturday afternoon, the "How I Met Your Mother" star confirmed via Twitter that he and partner, David Burtka, are expecting not one, but two bundles of joy.

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"So, get this: David and I are expecting twins this fall," Neil Tweeted. "We're super excited/nervous/thrilled. Hoping the press can respect our privacy..."

Just as Neil announced the news, photos of the actor and David, who is a fellow thespian (and cook), surfaced showing the happy couple enjoying themselves on Saturday afternoon at Disney's California Adventure in Anaheim, Calif.

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Adam Shankman of "So You Think You Can Dance," quickly congratulated the couple on the news via Twitter, writing, "guess what babies are gonna learn how to dance and direct from their uncle Adam?"

In addition to planning for his upcoming fatherhood, summer 2010 has been a busy one for the actor.

He directed Vanessa Hudgens and Pussycat Doll Nicole Scherzinger in the musical "Rent" at the Hollywood Bowl, earlier this month.

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Neil is also up for three Emmys this month - one for Best Supporting Actor Comedy for his work on "HIMYM," a second for Guest Actor in a Comedy Series for "Glee" and a third for hosting last year's Tony Awards.

David has experience with twins; he helped to raise twins from a relationship with a previous boyfriend, although he wasn't a primary parent to them

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/from-doogie-to-daddy-neil-patrick-harris-partner-david-burtka-expecting-twins/45640?nc

[Stop Making Cents]

Perverse.

So he puts out a press release saying he doens't want the press to cover the story? :oo-->

I generally don't care if someone wants to be a butt pirate but I have to say that butt pirates should not be raising or adopting children if it can be prevented.

[Phoenix]

I generally don't care if someone wants to be a butt pirate but I have to say that butt pirates should not be raising or adopting children if it can be prevented.


F@ggots should be shoved back in the closet, but we've got too many leftists who think anal sex is a "constitutional right."

This is nothing but child abuse.

[Gaillo]

Gay & Lesbian Hollywood

Isn't that a tautology? ???

[Phoenix]

Just another in a long line of strategic efforts to divide and conquer - the ass pluggers are the least of our worries right now. These people are warped, artificial human beings who are riding the coattails of social destruction for their personal gain. That said, if burning at the stake becomes fashionable again I'll make sure I keep my matches dry.


Most of the individuals who run this world are f@ggots or pederasts themselves.

[EE_]

I think the God they worship, Satan, is a f@ggot

[peepnklown]

It’s all about individual liberty when they are exactly like you, eh?

[Phoenix]

It’s all about individual liberty when they are exactly like you, eh?


Rights are God-given. Mental case perverts do not have "rights" to engage in perversion.

If you disagree, please show me in the common law or Constitution where anal sex is secured as a "right."

[Fortyone]

Expecting,Bah!, Thats all they are doing expecting. Expecting someone else to give them their kids so they can raise more little perverts. I hate how the media plays it out like one of them is actually going to be giving birth, Idiocy.

[Joe King]

Apparently he really was acting in this clip that someone else posted. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7bK3w9Mw6w&feature=player_embedded

While I'll admit having heard the name before, I had no idea who this Neil guy even was until reading this thread.
Shows how much TV I watch. :D

[Awoke]

Disgusting and deviant media coverage of Disgusting and deviant queers.

I don't give a shit if this hurts other peoples feelings or not: Queer partners that raise children should be treated as the worst abusers. Those children will be perverted and corrupted from the very beginning.

God must be furious.

[SHTF2010]

faggot ?

is GSUS bowing to political correctness ?

[1970 silver art]

*ag*ot ?

is GSUS bowing to political correctness ?


I do not think that GSUS is bowing to political correctness but the software that GSUS is using is bowing to political correctness.

[Awoke]

Don't fool yourself. I'm sure those censorship options can be removed with a few clicks on a mouse.

[SHTF2010]

pause for thought

forum software with political correctness programed in


i wonder if any of these censored words sends off some kind of signal to the PC Police ?

[1970 silver art]

Don't fool yourself. I'm sure those censorship options can be removed with a few clicks on a mouse.


You might be right. Honestly I do not know. I think that JohnQPublic or one of the mods will be better able to give you a definate answer on that. It would make sense to uncensor the "dirty words" on a forum that is a freedom of speech oriented forum.

[1970 silver art]

pause for thought

forum software with political correctness programed in


i wonder if any of these censored words sends off some kind of signal to the PC Police ?


That is a good question SHTF2010. I really do not know. In my opinion, it is pointless for a forum software to censor certain words since everybody already knows what they are. I never liked censorship of words or censorship of points of view.

[Liquid]

I have mixed feelings about this, only because there's a child involved. Children need to be protected at all costs, and I don't know if this has the best interest of the child in mind.

I don't think God put me on this earth to judge other people.

So, I don't judge a man based upon his race, religion, or sexual preference...but I can judge a man based upon how much he deadlifts.

The deadlift is one of God's creations to show that regardless of all that, we are all equal in the eye's of God.

[Saul Mine]

Why are we wasting electrons to discuss what queers do?

[Awoke]

Yeah saul. Who cares if a couple innocent children, born to a woman, are raised by flaming queers that teach these kids that deviant behaviour is not only acceptable, but expected as the norm?

Not you.

[Liquid]

Why are we wasting electrons to discuss what queers do?


We've got to have someone who's different than us to bash. It gets boring bashing Jews all the time, so we switch to blacks, mexicans, and gays to keep our hate well spread around.

[Fortyone]

Why are we wasting electrons to discuss what queers do?


We've got to have someone who's different than us to bash. It gets boring bashing Jews all the time, so we switch to blacks, mexicans, and gays to keep our hate well spread around.


Fags can be any race, perhaps you should donate a child to a pair of them to raise since they are so normal?

[Liquid]

Fags can be any race, perhaps you should donate a child to a pair of them to raise since they are so normal?


Lighten up Fortyone...but you do raise a point that I have mixed feelings about.

What two consenting adults do, is their business. Bring in a child though, and it changes things. I believe it takes a man and a woman, working together, to properly raise a child with good honest values, under God.

I have mixed feelings about this honestly...I don't know if two gay people can accomplish that.

[Fortyone]

Fags can be any race, perhaps you should donate a child to a pair of them to raise since they are so normal?


Lighten up Fortyone...but you do raise a point that I have mixed feelings about.

What two consenting adults do, is their business. Bring in a child though, and it changes things. I believe it takes a man and a woman, working together, to properly raise a child with good honest values, under God.

I have mixed feelings about this honestly...I don't know if two gay people can accomplish that.



Fags are mental deviants and should be removed from Western society, typically pedophiles are also fags.

[Liquid]

Fags are mental deviants and should be removed from Western society, typically pedophiles are also fags.


Gay people are born that way, it's not their choice, it's how God created them. Perhaps that's is their cross to carry in life, God's way of placing a higher burden on them then us.

They have rights too, and should not be infringed upon unless they infringe on others.

[Ponce]

Yeah saul. Who cares if a couple innocent children, born to a woman, are raised by flaming queers that teach these kids that deviant behaviour is not only acceptable, but expected as the norm?

Not you.


Awoke? you got one of my "precious" thank you :oo--> for that because it applies to everything that's going on...and like I said before "It will be the norm to have sex with underage kids and that wll be OK".

First post of the day...........good morning to one and all.

[1970 silver art]

I do not care for the homosexuality and I do not have anything against gay people. However, I will have to say that two gay men adopting and raising a child is NOT the norm. Two lesbians women adopting and raising a child is NOT the norm. There is nothing that can be done about this because the gay community is going to use the tool of the gov't to get their way with same sax marriage and gay adoption.

[I am me, I am free]

Only the state can put babies into the hands of 'same sex' 'marriages' since the Creator didn't provide any means of doing so NATURALLY.

And we all (should) know the death cult runs the state.

[Fortyone]

Fags are mental deviants and should be removed from Western society, typically pedophiles are also fags.


Gay people are born that way, it's not their choice, it's how God created them. Perhaps that's is their cross to carry in life, God's way of placing a higher burden on them then us.

They have rights too, and should not be infringed upon unless they infringe on others.


BS its how Zionist society has raised them,now they want babies to fuck up and create more! You want to buy into that horseshit, go ahead. As far as them infringing, they ARE infringing on others rights, rights to be free of mental disease! they should be quarantined like a cholera patient until they are cured.

[Awoke]

That's bullshit anyways.

Gay people choose to be gay. They are not born that way.

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

That's bullsh*t anyways.

Gay people choose to be gay. They are not born that way.




I think the animal kingdom producing homosexuals is proof that a certain percentage of all creatures will invariably be homosexual, including homo sapiens.

Social engineering, however, has produced a separate class of heterosexuals who have convinced themselves they are part of the natural class of homosexuals.

What should be, say, 3% of the population is now 10-15% and climbing.

This is done for population control, as well as eugenic reasons.

[StackerKen]

Bringing kids into the mix changes Everything

If these perverts what to be sodomites...that their business.

But They should NOT be allowed to adopt children

[StackerKen]

perversion - dictionary results

a change to what is unnatural or abnormal:




I have No Doubt that this makes God angry.... >:(

It makes Me angry too. >:(

[Liquid]

I have No Doubt that this makes God angry.... >:(

Ken, then why did God create homosexuality? Not just in humans, but in other species as well?

Having grown up in a very religious household, homosexuality was just not discussed at all in my upbringing, and I question from a religious standpoint, it if is accepted at all.

I don't see how a child could not grow up confused in a gay household, being that sexuality is such a natural thing. The child would question his existance. We really don't control who or how we are attracted, since it's at a biological level as we grow and mature. Hormones and all.

[zap]

Bringing kids into the mix changes Everything

If these perverts what to be sodomites...that their business.

But They should NOT be allowed to adopt children




I doubt they are adopting, probable a surrogate, so he would be the biological dad.

[Awoke]

Man created homosexuality. I don't believe for one minute that there are "gay" animals. Sure, there are instances where an animal may try to mate with another animal of the same sex, but I highly doubt that there are actual "queer" animals that selectively avoid the opposite sex and choose the same sex on an ongoing bases.

If anything, that spin is a jewish-media inception that is being crammed down the throats of our school children in order to sway them into a world of goy deviancy.

The last thing on my list of "things to do" is to sit here and argue with a bunch of queer-sympathizers on the immorality of brainwashing children in gay-parent environment. If any of you can't see the implications of inculcating our children into the world of "queer", you're beyond hope.

Attempts of justifying homosexuality as a natural occurance is laughable. Without heterosexual reproduction, none of us would be here to talk about it, and if your daddy didn't throw it into your mommy, you people wouldn't be able to sit here and try to feed us bullshit about it being natural to be gay.

Again, If people want to engage in whatever sexual behaviour they desire - so be it.

But raising our kids in that environment goes against every fibre of nature in our being.

This is not my last post on this. There are quote I will post later from a book I just read about the obama administration and the homos/pedos that are trying to destroy YOUR FAMILY.

[StackerKen]

I have No Doubt that this makes God angry.... >:(

Ken, then why did God create homosexuality? Not just in humans, but in other species as well?

Having grown up in a very religious household, homosexuality was just not discussed at all in my upbringing, and I question from a religious standpoint, it if is accepted at all.

I don't see how a child could not grow up confused in a gay household, being that sexuality is such a natural thing. The child would question his existance. We really don't control who or how we are attracted, since it's at a biological level as we grow and mature. Hormones and all.


Liquid God did not create homosexuality.
This earth is not the way God created it (for now)
The first book in the bible tells us that the world is not like God created it.

God gave man a choice and man chose poorly

The earth and people are Corrupted.

There is a curse on the earth (for now)

But God will one day restore it back to the way he intended it to be...

Revelation 21:4
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.

[Bluegill]

In my view, homo's are crossed wired freaks of nature. They are what they are. If they keep to themselves , I don't care if they exist, I don't care what they do in the privacy of their own homes. If their not bothering me, I'll gladly leave them alone. I have no reason to not treat them like I would want to be treated.

BUT, as already mentioned when kids come into the mix, I have a BIG, BIG problem with that. Anybody with half a brain knows child rearing homo sapiens requires 2 parents, one of each gender. It's just the way we are. Yes, when circumstances get out of control, one parent can successively do it. But it is not an ideal situation. Even then, they are the exception, not the norm.

How can anybody not expect the child to be messed up being raised in an environment like that... It is just wrong as wrong can be.

[gunDriller]

pause for thought

forum software with political correctness programed in
i wonder if any of these censored words sends off some kind of signal to the PC Police ?


better watch out. Nancy Pelosi will be standing on your doorstep.

http://forbestadvice.com/FanClubs/NancyPelosi/Nancy_Pelosi_Young_Bikini.jpg

[stillwondering]

OK, I am going to trip on in the murky bit of water here.

I know people who participate in the "alternative life style" (pc enough?). I have watched what happens with kids involved. I am not saying this a 100% accurate because some will say we need a larger study group, however, it seems self evident to me that children live by example.

Taking this from a simple side bar, if the parent is a drunk, the child grows up seeing this example, it is normal to this child. There is a good chance this child will follow in the footsteps of the parent. If the parent is abusive, on whatever level, if help is not sought out, chances are, the cycle of abuse will continue through the child on to either their partner or child. So taking a bit of a logic leap for some and being just being logical with the thought process, if there is a relationship in the home, abusive, consistent partner changing, loving, single parent, or same sex situations, why wouldn't the child follow what is familiar to them? I know that my mom had abusive men in her life and she was quick to "fall in love" during my childhood. It took some time and a lot of heartache for me to break that cycle.

So saying this, there was a comment saying that a couple that is in a same sex relationship would create more children who would follow in the same sex relationships seems like a logical statement to me. I know two or three couples in our community, their children went to school with my children in Elementary and the parents are great people, supportive, involved, fun to be around, and they are same sex couples. Now their children are in high school and they are choosing the same relationships. They are following in the same sex relationships because that is what they are used to being around.

It makes sense to me. I am not saying agree with it at all. One of the kids come to my house and I love this kid dearly. We have long talks. It is difficult because there is confusion from the way they were raised and what they see their friends are doing. Then the question is asked, why am I not normal? They are referring to being interested in the opposite sex. It is a heart breaking question, that I don't know how to answer.

This kid is only about 15 years old and is having a bad case of gender confusion. We could be tough on them and tell them to get over it and force them into a normal relationship, but this person is at that stage that I fear they could became even more emotionally unstable than they already are. It does not help that Mom is the one in the same sex relationship and the Dad is the Macho one. They live with Dad now. What do you do for them?

I believe it is a choice, but like all things in life that we choose, it takes time to change who you are back to where you will be healthier and happier. *Sigh*

What to do?

I don't have confidence in children being raised by those who are in a same sex relationship. I don't believe it is mentally healthy for the child. I am not saying they are not capable of loving the child. I am sure they have the ability to raise the child. It still goes back to showing them a healthy life style. We would not put a child into a home that we do not agree on the family values or morals, so I don't believe they should be raised by same sex couples. Especially through adoption!

I submit this to the forum as my humble opinion and without intention of hurting anyone's feelings.

[Bluegill]

It’s all about individual liberty when they are exactly like you, eh?


Rights are God-given. Mental case perverts do not have "rights" to engage in perversion.

If you disagree, please show me in the common law or Constitution where anal sex is secured as a "right."

Can you show any of us where it is excluded as a right..? Define perversion. To a lot of holy roller radical Christian fundamentalists, sex without the intent of procreation is "perversion".

Keep your religion out of my Constitution and my right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Me and my ex had anal sex on several occasions. Are you saying we didn't have the right to do that, but we had the right to vaginal sex..? Again, show me where it is stated as such.

[EE_]

pause for thought

forum software with political correctness programed in
i wonder if any of these censored words sends off some kind of signal to the PC Police ?


better watch out. Nancy Pelosi will be standing on your doorstep.

http://forbestadvice.com/FanClubs/NancyPelosi/Nancy_Pelosi_Young_Bikini.jpg


Don't even go there with that phony picture of Pelosi!

http://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/nancy-pelosi-25815.jpg

[Fortyone]

It’s all about individual liberty when they are exactly like you, eh?


Rights are God-given. Mental case perverts do not have "rights" to engage in perversion.

If you disagree, please show me in the common law or Constitution where anal sex is secured as a "right."

Can you show any of us where it is excluded as a right..? Define perversion. To a lot of holy roller radical Christian fundamentalists, sex without the intent of procreation is "perversion".

Keep your religion out of my Constitution and my right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Me and my ex had anal sex on several occasions. Are you saying we didn't have the right to do that, but we had the right to vaginal sex..? Again, show me where it is stated as such.


Fags are mentally deficient,The US Psychiatric Association Officially described it as a disease until 1973,When Zionist influences took over. The Constitution reference you just made has no bearing, one could say where does it say its ok?Fagg ots werent tolerated at the time of its creation so I suppose it wasnt in there because NORMAL people wouldnt do it anyway.Sodomy is illegal in most States, so there is your law. Chances are one of those two will molest the children.

[stillwondering]

I have No Doubt that this makes God angry.... >:(

Ken, then why did God create homosexuality? Not just in humans, but in other species as well?

Having grown up in a very religious household, homosexuality was just not discussed at all in my upbringing, and I question from a religious standpoint, it if is accepted at all.

I don't see how a child could not grow up confused in a gay household, being that sexuality is such a natural thing. The child would question his existance. We really don't control who or how we are attracted, since it's at a biological level as we grow and mature. Hormones and all.


I too was raised in a very religious home. Homosexuality WAS addressed. It was KNOWN that it was NOT part of GOD'S PLAN.

There have been arguments as to why homosexuality has occurred in society and nature. One was there was an overpopulation or not enough of one sex to go around for the other sex. Regardless the reason, to say that GOD created homosexuality, the why is it that we read about Adam and Eve in the Bible? I do not remember reading about two other couples of the same sex, one couple being female and the other being male. If it is something that GOD created and it was PART OF HIS PLAN, I have a strong belief that this would have been revealed in such a manner. When he created the earth, it was only spoke of Adam and Eve being brought here when they were cast out of the garden of Eden. I only use the Bible argument because that is where you are arguing from.

To say that we do not control who we are attracted to... when we are rejected by someone we really like, do we not learn to move on? Is that not a form of control? I just don't buy it. I feel this argument is weak and is used so that someone does not have to put forth an effort to be more like they know they should be.

*again not trying to be offensive*

[stillwondering]

It’s all about individual liberty when they are exactly like you, eh?


Rights are God-given. Mental case perverts do not have "rights" to engage in perversion.

If you disagree, please show me in the common law or Constitution where anal sex is secured as a "right."

Can you show any of us where it is excluded as a right..? Define perversion. To a lot of holy roller radical Christian fundamentalists, sex without the intent of procreation is "perversion".

Keep your religion out of my Constitution and my right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Me and my ex had anal sex on several occasions. Are you saying we didn't have the right to do that, but we had the right to vaginal sex..? Again, show me where it is stated as such.


WOW~ TMI! I mean really, WOW! That was more of a visual than I was expecting to face today...

[Liquid]

To say that we do not control who we are attracted to... when we are rejected by someone we really like, do we not learn to move on? Is that not a form of control? I just don't buy it. I feel this argument is weak and is used so that someone does not have to put forth an effort to be more like they know they should be.

*again not trying to be offensive*


Thanks stillwondering, and you too stackerken. This thread has been very educational for me.

[gunDriller]

Don't even go there with that phony picture of Pelosi!

http://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/nancy-pelosi-25815.jpg


it's not her body or her politics that makes her ugly.

it's her dishonesty, her lack of integrity, her spiritual whore-ness.


as much as i respect the folks that think this Doogie Howser gay Dad combo is unhealthy for children, i have to look at the real world and all the dysfunctional hetero families. e.g. Octo-Mom ... plenty of hetero families in the projects. are those healthy families ? some of them are.

and then even functional hetero families, a friend from the gym, a Jewish guy (he knows nothing of my knowledge of the Talmud), has a son who just re-lapsed and i think the drug is crystal meth.

so it's pretty close to a model family, Dad is a career programmer, i just know him cause we swim at the same pool. somehow the son got an appetite for meth, and now the family is fractured.

i would say if Doogie & his "Beau" can get their kids to age 18 or 21 and have them experience normal teenage hetero things, e.g. making out with their boyfriend girlfriend at the drive in ... or wherever they make out these days, and raise the kid so he is strong enough to draw a line in the sand about drugs like meth ... and hopefully teach the kid how to surf.

if they can accomplish all that, it is a net positive, even if Doogie & Company are banging bungholes behind closed doors.


what i would be curious about is what are the stats for gay parents who adopt or find surrogate moms. how do the kids turn out - are their stats normal ? i thought normal is like 90% of the population is straight.

[Phoenix]

Fags can be any race, perhaps you should donate a child to a pair of them to raise since they are so normal?


Never mind Liquid. He's the "Alan Colmes" of GS-US. 95% of the time he's wrong, and he's just the token spokesman for the Left. Like in the Buchanan-Colmes debates on Crossfire, it's always a smackdown in favor of the former. ;D

[Phoenix]

I don't know if two gay people can accomplish that.


Two HAPPY people can indeed accomplish that.

As for homosexuals, no, they cannot.

[Phoenix]

Gay people are born that way


MYTH



it's not their choice, it's how God created them.


BLASPHEMOUS MYTH




Perhaps that's is their cross to carry in life, God's way of placing a higher burden on them then us.


Sounds like a CURSE to me.




They have rights too, and should not be infringed upon unless they infringe on others.


Once they come out of the closet (i.e., bring their f@ggotry into the public), they are infringing on others.

[Phoenix]

Ken, then why did God create homosexuality?


MAN created sin, not God.




Not just in humans, but in other species as well?


God created perfection, and Man's choice to disregard God brought error into our world.



sexuality is such a natural thing.


Can you please explain how anal sex, fisting, "golden showers," or coprophagy are "natural"?

[Phoenix]

Sure, there are instances where an animal may try to mate with another animal of the same sex, but I highly doubt that there are actual "queer" animals that selectively avoid the opposite sex and choose the same sex on an ongoing bases.


Sociobiological experiments have proven conclusively that same-sex couplings among animals occur only in the presence of environmental stresses. In other words, unnatural situations result in unnatural behavior.

It's no accident that f@ggots collect in big cities.

[Phoenix]

Keep your religion out of my Constitution and my right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."


Rights are dependent upon God. Sorry you can't handle that.




Me and my ex had anal sex on several occasions.


OMG, this is totally not a surprise.

:ROFL:

[Ponce]

Spoke with Agnut today and I asked him........"Who do you think that is having the baby?", and his answer was "The one in the bottom" hahahahahahahahahah. ???

[Phoenix]

Regardless the reason, to say that GOD created homosexuality, the why is it that we read about Adam and Eve in the Bible? I do not remember reading about two other couples of the same sex, one couple being female and the other being male. If it is something that GOD created and it was PART OF HIS PLAN, I have a strong belief that this would have been revealed in such a manner. When he created the earth, it was only spoke of Adam and Eve being brought here when they were cast out of the garden of Eden. I only use the Bible argument because that is where you are arguing from.


That's because your "prejudice" and "bigotry" will not allow you to see that the original Bible actually said "Adam and Steve"...

::) ::)

http://www.amazon.com/Bible-Original-Languages-Not-anti/dp/1452881235/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1275018748&sr=1-3-fkmr0

"The Bible in Original Languages is Not anti Gay: an essential guide for Gay and Lesbian Christians"












(I love you! ;) )

[Liquid]

Never mind Liquid. He's the "Alan Colmes" of GS-US. 95% of the time he's wrong, and he's just the token spokesman for the Left. Like in the Buchanan-Colmes debates on Crossfire, it's always a smackdown in favor of the former. ;D


Nice shaming tactic there...Phoenix.

You argue for the pure sake of arguing. There's no point in trying to respond to all your nonsense...explain how homosexuality infringes upon your rights. Explain, how homosexuals should not be allowed their constituional rights as well.

Right or wrong under God is one thing, and that's a personal one. The statement from another poster saying get your religion out of my constitution...you should think about that Phoenix.

I believe in live and let live.

[Fortyone]

Bah!" live and let live", typical Socialist ploy. Twist the facts to suit the immediate need. Pedophiles dont harm me either, but I believe they should all be executed for their crimes. Far too many try the "Live and let live" routine on a variety of subjects, drugs, alcohol, faggotry, etc. Point is,YOU ARE infringing on my rights as I have go and explain to my Grandchild why two men are a "couple" and they are going to adopt children.The Grandchild who is 5,understands that is not normal, why cant you? Unless of course you are Gay,and have a agenda?

[Liquid]

Bah!" live and let live", typical Socialist ploy. Twist the facts to suit the immediate need. Pedophiles dont harm me either, but I believe they should all be executed for their crimes. Far too many try the "Live and let live" routine on a variety of subjects, drugs, alcohol, *ag*otry, etc. Point is,YOU ARE infringing on my rights as I have go and explain to my Grandchild why two men are a "couple" and they are going to adopt children.The Grandchild who is 5,understands that is not normal, why cant you? Unless of course you are Gay,and have a agenda?


Here we go again, another shaming assault...cry 'agenda' when you disagree.

Bottom line, you feel people that are different than you... are infringing upon your rights...because you feel 'uncomfortable' with it.

I see that a direct attack on freedom. That's what that is.

[Phoenix]

Never mind Liquid. He's the "Alan Colmes" of GS-US. 95% of the time he's wrong, and he's just the token spokesman for the Left. Like in the Buchanan-Colmes debates on Crossfire, it's always a smackdown in favor of the former. ;D


Nice shaming tactic there...Phoenix.


It's totally true. I'm pretty sure you actually believe everything you post, just like Alan Colmes and his statements. A True Believer leftist.




You argue for the pure sake of arguing.


You'd prefer everything just shook their heads in agreement to you? Is that what you think an online discussion forum is for?




Explain, how homosexuals should not be allowed their constituional rights as well.


NOT ONE of their God-given rights has been denied.




The statement from another poster saying get your religion out of my constitution...you should think about that Phoenix.


He worships the Constitution. I worship God, the source of my rights secured by the Bill of Rights. No God = No Rights.




I believe in live and let live.


Most queers don't. Tolerance --> Acceptance --> Participation

[Phoenix]

I see that a direct attack on freedom.


The "freedom" to engage in filthy anal sex?

[Liquid]

The "freedom" to engage in filthy anal sex?


Yup, the freedom to engage in filthy anal sex. That's what freedom is, people have the right to their own choices on how they live their life. That's the tough part, when you don't agree with it. That's when freedom, on a personal level, gets tested.

The point that religion being separate from the constitution is a must, it must be kept separate.

I do agree though, that it's not in good interests of children for a gay couple to raise them. I give credit to stillwondering, and others, for opening my eyes there.

[Fortyone]

Bah!" live and let live", typical Socialist ploy. Twist the facts to suit the immediate need. Pedophiles dont harm me either, but I believe they should all be executed for their crimes. Far too many try the "Live and let live" routine on a variety of subjects, drugs, alcohol, *ag*otry, etc. Point is,YOU ARE infringing on my rights as I have go and explain to my Grandchild why two men are a "couple" and they are going to adopt children.The Grandchild who is 5,understands that is not normal, why cant you? Unless of course you are Gay,and have a agenda?


Here we go again, another shaming assault...cry 'agenda' when you disagree.

Bottom line, you feel people that are different than you... are infringing upon your rights...because you feel 'uncomfortable' with it.

I see that a direct attack on freedom. That's what that is.


I suppose you think its just freedom to diddle teen age boys right? or go watch 15 yr old girls working in a strip club or in the parking lot, I mean, no one is getting hurt right? You have freedom, freedom to live WITHIN the society, not adjust the society to suit your perverted wants.

[Liquid]

I suppose you think its just freedom to diddle teen age boys right? or go watch 15 yr old girls working in a strip club or in the parking lot, I mean, no one is getting hurt right? You have freedom, freedom to live WITHIN the society, not just do whatever the f*ck you want.


I was under the impression we were discussing adults, you sick bastard. Anyone who violates children deserves the death sentence.

[Phoenix]

Yup, the freedom to engage in filthy anal sex. That's what freedom is, people have the right to their own choices on how they live their life. That's the tough part, when you don't agree with it. That's when freedom, on a personal level, gets tested.


So "freedom" has no limits?




The point that religion being separate from the constitution is a must, it must be kept separate.


Why? Where is that in the Constitution?




I do agree though, that it's not in good interests of children for a gay couple to raise them. I give credit to stillwondering, and others, for opening my eyes there.


You realize stillwondering is my wife, and on important issues, we agree 100%? I guess you just needed a "woman's perspective." ;D

[Fortyone]

The "freedom" to engage in filthy anal sex?


Yup, the freedom to engage in filthy anal sex. That's what freedom is, people have the right to their own choices on how they live their life. That's the tough part, when you don't agree with it. That's when freedom, on a personal level, gets tested.

The point that religion being separate from the constitution is a must, it must be kept separate.

I do agree though, that it's not in good interests of children for a gay couple to raise them. I give credit to stillwondering, and others, for opening my eyes there.




Typical Communist speak,"Remove the church! NO religion in govt.!" The Constitution is based on Gods laws. freedom not to be another mans slave,freedom to travel and make your own way and raise a NORMAL family. get it? Its not about corrupting the future (youth) of the nation with Zionist Elders poisonous messages of destruction

[Phoenix]

I suppose you think its just freedom to diddle teen age boys right? or go watch 15 yr old girls working in a strip club or in the parking lot, I mean, no one is getting hurt right? You have freedom, freedom to live WITHIN the society, not just do whatever the f*ck you want.


I was under the impression we were discussing adults, you sick bastard. Anyone who violates children deserves the death sentence.


Why? What if the "child" wants it? Man-Boy "love" and all that. Seriously, you painted yourself into a corner with the "freedom" crap. Why can't a 13-year boy who has entered puberty engage in "love" with a 57-year old peder...uh, I mean "kind, grandfather figure"? WHO are you to judge them?

Kids don't have constitutional rights?

[Fortyone]

I suppose you think its just freedom to diddle teen age boys right? or go watch 15 yr old girls working in a strip club or in the parking lot, I mean, no one is getting hurt right? You have freedom, freedom to live WITHIN the society, not just do whatever the f*ck you want.


I was under the impression we were discussing adults, you sick bastard. Anyone who violates children deserves the death sentence.


WOW! sick bastard eh? pretty rough! Well NEWSFLASH Most *ag*ots like to DIDDLE LITTLE BOYS, but I am glad we agree on what to do with Pedos.

back to fags being pedos,:

http://www.afamichigan.org/2005/06/07/homosexual-pedophiles-are-vastly-overrepresented-in-child-sex-abuse-cases/

[Phoenix]

Satanic plan for sexuality in America:

Stage 1: Interracial sex - Tolerance, Acceptance, Participation

Stage 2: Homosexual sex - Tolerance, Acceptance, Participation

Stage 3: Pederasty / Pedophilia - Tolerance, Acceptance, Participation

[Liquid]

Why? What if the "child" wants it? Man-Boy "love" and all that. Seriously, you painted yourself into a corner with the "freedom" crap. Why can't a 13-year boy who has entered puberty engage in "love" with a 57-year old peder...uh, I mean "kind, grandfather figure"? WHO are you to judge them?

Kids don't have constitutional rights?


Oh come on with this crap...you and I both know that children gain maturity as they age, no kids don't have freedom...limited freedom maybe. They earn freedom, that comes with maturity. When they become responsible adults.

You can't be serious with this argument.

[Liquid]

You realize stillwondering is my wife, and on important issues, we agree 100%? I guess you just needed a "woman's perspective." ;D


I know that Phoenix, you've got a smart lady there. Also, a woman's perspective is always welcome.

[Fortyone]

Why? What if the "child" wants it? Man-Boy "love" and all that. Seriously, you painted yourself into a corner with the "freedom" crap. Why can't a 13-year boy who has entered puberty engage in "love" with a 57-year old peder...uh, I mean "kind, grandfather figure"? WHO are you to judge them?

Kids don't have constitutional rights?


Oh come on with this crap...you and I both know that children gain maturity as they age, no kids don't have freedom...limited freedom maybe. They earn freedom, that comes with maturity. When they become responsible adults.

You can't be serious with this argument.





Not so fast,Imagine this scenario,Little Johnny (your son for this exercise) is 15. Little johnny has been exposed to this "tolerance" growing up in the Doogie Howser world. Now little johnny likes little Sam (another boy) because he is taught by YOU that its no one else's business who they date and being a fa g is another normal.are you going to allow him to date? or when Little johnny is 17 do you want him to date Bob who is 21? think about this, before you flaunt "Freedom"

[StackerKen]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


I don't care what anyone says....It is completely obvious the the writers of the Constitution , the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights were Believers in God and the bible.

God and the Bible clearly say that Sodomy is Wrong.

But this is a free country and if sodomites want to do what is wrong, they are free to do it here......

God will Judge them and anyone that approves of what they do.

When "we" as a country allow them to bring children into their perverted lives...
Im afraid God will have to judge us all for that. Its not gonna be pretty.

I for one am very sorry I did not do more to prevent it from going this far.

The same goes for nearly 4000 the unborn (and Partially born) Babies that are being killed in the US every day.

I am truly sorry that we have let this happen to this country. :'(

[Fortyone]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


I don't care what anyone says....It is completely obvious the the writers of the Constitution , the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights were Believers in God and the bible.

God and the Bible clearly say that Sodomy is Wrong.

But this is a free country and if sodomites want to do what is wrong, they are free to do it here......

God will Judge them and anyone that approves of what they do.

When "we" as a country allow them to bring children into their perverted lives...
Im afraid God will have to judge us all for that. Its not gonna be pretty.

I for one am very sorry I did not do more to prevent it from going this far.

The same goes for nearly 4000 the unborn (and Partially born) Babies that are being killed in the US every day.

I am truly sorry that we have let this happen to this country. :'(


Zionist judges are the largest problem


U.S. Supreme Court decision Lawrence v. Texas (2003) invalidated sodomy laws in the fifty states, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico. At that time, the laws stood as follows:
Alabama — All sodomy acts illegal – affects only unmarried couples.[23][24] Penalty = (1 year/$1,000)
Alaska (repealed through legislative action 1980)
Arizona (repealed through legislative action 2001)
Arkansas — struck down by Jegley v. Picado, 80 S.W.3d 332 (Ark. 2001)
California (repealed through legislative action 1976)
Colorado (repealed through legislative action 1972)
Connecticut (repealed through legislative action 1971)
Delaware (repealed through legislative action 1973)
Florida — All sodomy acts illegal. Penalty = (60 days/$500)
Georgia — struck down by Powell v. Georgia, 510 S.E.2d 18 (1998)
Hawaii (repealed through legislative action 1973)
Idaho — All sodomy acts illegal. Penalty = (5 years to life)
Illinois (repealed through legislative action 1962)
Indiana (repealed through legislative action 1976)
Iowa (repealed through legislative action 1978)
Kansas — Same-Sex sodomy acts illegal. Penalty = (6 months/$1,000)
Kentucky — struck down by Commonwealth v. Wasson, 842 S.W.2d 487 (Ky. 1992)
Louisiana — All sodomy acts illegal. Penalty = (5 years/$2,000)[25]
Maine (repealed through legislative action 1976)
Maryland — struck down by Williams v. State, 1998 Extra LEXIS 260, Baltimore City Circuit Court, January 14, 1999
Massachusetts — struck down by GLAD v. Attorney General, SJC-08539 (Mass. Supreme Judicial Ct. 2002)
Michigan – struck down by Michigan Organization for Human Rights v. Kelley in 1990. Prior law defined sodomy as a felony punishable by up to 15 years imprisonment for a first offense and up to life in prison for repeat offenders. [23][26]
Minnesota — struck down by Doe v. Ventura, No. MC 01-489, 2001 WL 543734 (Minn. Dist. Ct 2001)
Mississippi — All sodomy acts illegal. Penalty = (10 years)
Missouri — Same-Sex sodomy acts illegal. Penalty = (1 year/$1,000), then repealed through legislative action in 2006[27]
Montana — struck down by Gryczan v. Montana, 942 P.2d 112 (1997)
Nebraska (repealed through legislative action 1978)
Nevada (repealed through legislative action 1993)
New Hampshire (repealed through legislative action 1975)
New Jersey (repealed through legislative action 1979)
New Mexico (repealed through legislative action 1975)
New York — struck down by People v. Onofre, 415 N.E.2d 936 (N.Y. 1980) and repealed by the legislature in 2000.
North Carolina — All sodomy acts illegal. Penalty = (10 years/discretionary fine)
North Dakota (repealed through legislative action 1973)
Ohio (repealed through legislative action 1974)
Oklahoma — Same-Sex sodomy acts illegal. Penalty = (10 years)
Oregon (repealed through legislative action 1972)
Pennsylvania — struck down by Commonwealth v. Bonadio, 415 A.2d 47 (Pa. 1980) and repealed by the legislature in 1995.
Rhode Island (repealed through legislative action 1998)
South Carolina — All sodomy acts illegal. Penalty = (5 years/$500)
South Dakota (repealed through legislative action 1977)
Tennessee — Struck down in Campbell v. Sundquist, 926 S.W.2d 250 (1996)
Texas — Same-Sex sodomy acts illegal. Penalty = ($500)
Utah — All sodomy acts illegal. Penalty = (6 months/$1,000)[28]
Vermont (repealed through legislative action 1977)
Virginia — All sodomy acts illegal. Penalty = (1–5 years)
Washington (repealed through legislative action 1976)
West Virginia (repealed through legislative action 1976)
Wisconsin (repealed through legislative action 1983)
Wyoming (repealed through legislative action 1977)
District of Columbia (City Council repealed law in 1995; Congress did not veto repeal as it did the first time in 1981)[29]
Puerto Rico (repealed through legislative action 2005)[30]

[Liquid]

[quote=Fortyone ]

You've got a good point there Fortyone. I also read that other article you posted..and pulled this from it.

"In other words, although heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a ratio of at least 20 to 1, homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child sex offenses"

[zap]

So gentlemen what is the answer?

Should we lock them up, kill them, send them to the head shrinker?

We all agree it goes against society/the bible/common law, what is the answer?

[Fortyone]

So gentlemen what is the answer?

Should we lock them up, kill them, send them to the head shrinker?

We all agree it goes against society/the bible/common law, what is the answer?


I say the answer is clear. Put them in a quarantine prison and rehabiltate those that can be,the rest, leper colony comes to mind.

[zap]

So gentlemen what is the answer?

Should we lock them up, kill them, send them to the head shrinker?

We all agree it goes against society/the bible/common law, what is the answer?


I say the answer is clear. Put them in a quarantine prison and rehabiltate those that can be,the rest, leper colony comes to mind.




There is so much wrong in this world getting rid of Homo's isn't going to solve much.

[1970 silver art]

So gentlemen what is the answer?

Should we lock them up, kill them, send them to the head shrinker?

We all agree it goes against society/the bible/common law, what is the answer?


I do not think there is a good solution to this zap.

Some people will say lock them up. Ok so lock them up and then what? The taxpayers are paying for his 3 meals and a cot while he is locked up and if they come out of prison, will they be "rehabilitated"? Answer: Probably not but a lot of taxpayer money will be spent.

Some people will say kill them. Ok so kill them and then what? Are we now supposed to be judge, jury, and executioner? Is that really the answer? Answer: No.

Some people will say send them to the head shrinker? Ok so send them to the head shrinker and then what? Will they be "rehabilitated"? Answer: Probably not and the taxpayers will be footing the bill for something that may NOT have worked.

I do not have a good solution to this. I do not have the solution to this issue. I do not think that anybody has a good solution to this.

[Fortyone]

So gentlemen what is the answer?

Should we lock them up, kill them, send them to the head shrinker?

We all agree it goes against society/the bible/common law, what is the answer?


I say the answer is clear. Put them in a quarantine prison and rehabiltate those that can be,the rest, leper colony comes to mind.




There is so much wrong in this world getting rid of Homo's isn't going to solve much.


They wouldnt be alone in my prisons

[StackerKen]

So gentlemen what is the answer?

Should we lock them up, kill them, send them to the head shrinker?

We all agree it goes against society/the bible/common law, what is the answer?


Well Zap thats a tough one....Jesus said "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone"

However

Not only did Jesus rebuke sin, but He also commanded His disciples to rebuke sin.
His apostles and disciples throughout the New Testament did condemn sin with His approval. One does not need to have lived all his life without sin in order to rebuke others. Jesus knew His disciples had committed sins, yet he still ordered them to rebuke sin.
Consider these passages:
Luke 17:3 - If your brother sins, rebuke him (cf. Matthew 18:15).
Ephesians 5:11 - Do not have fellowship with sin, but reprove it.
2 Timothy 2:24-26 - The Lord's servant must correct those who have been taken captive by the Devil.
2 Timothy 4:2-4 - Preaching the word requires us to "reprove and rebuke" - this means to tell people when they are wrong.
Titus 1:9-14 - Elders must sharply reprove people who teach things they ought not.
James 5:19,20 - We should seek to convert those who go into sin and error.
Proverbs 28:4 - Those who keep the law, will contend with the wicked. (Cf. Proverbs 28:23; 24:24,25.)
[Study also 1 Timothy 5:20; 1 Thessalonians 5:14; Titus 3:10; 2:15; Galatians 6:1; Proverbs 19:25; 25:12; Jude 3.]
Clearly, people do not need to live a sinless life in order to rebuke sin. In fact, if we fail to rebuke others when they sin, they we ourselves have committed the sin of disobeying the above passages!

We need to rebuke their deviant behavior. And NOT approve of it and call it "normal"

Or we too will be judged.

[1970 silver art]

So gentlemen what is the answer?

Should we lock them up, kill them, send them to the head shrinker?

We all agree it goes against society/the bible/common law, what is the answer?


I say the answer is clear. Put them in a quarantine prison and rehabiltate those that can be,the rest, leper colony comes to mind.




There is so much wrong in this world getting rid of Homo's isn't going to solve much.


Getting rid of homosexuals (which is not possible) will not even put a dent in the problems that we currently have in the U.S. Massive gov't spending, falling dollar, job losses, and other economic issues are the things that affect everybody and those are the things that should be addressed.

[Phoenix]

Oh come on with this crap...


Crap? "Freedom" is crap?




no kids don't have freedom...limited freedom maybe. They earn freedom, that comes with maturity. When they become responsible adults.


Even Bugs Bunny and Friends know that the Constitution works for everyone...even kids!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5zumFJx950




You can't be serious with this argument.


So you don't believe in "freedom" then. Like I said, WHO are you to judge when kids should be able to "love" old men? Why is it 18? And 16 in England? Why not puberty? Do kids not have "sexuality" once they attain puberty? Isn't it "beneficial" for children to have sexually mature individuals "teach" them - hands-on - how to explore their sexuality?










Do you now understand how your "arguments" in favor of f@ggotry are just a stop on the long-road to total perversion? Tolerance - Acceptance - Participation.

[Book]

Yup, the freedom to engage in filthy anal sex. That's what freedom is, people have the right to their own choices on how they live their life. That's the tough part, when you don't agree with it. That's when freedom, on a personal level, gets tested.



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http://areyouthedifference.org/images/funding-1.jpg

Why should us TAXPAYERS be responsible for the public medical expenses of treating homo ANAL SEX disease and rectal destruction? They can buy their own bloody diapers and buy their own expensive pharmaceuticals. Re-read you own sanctimonious post about "freedom" then post another version as it applies to us TAXPAYERS.

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[Fortyone]

So gentlemen what is the answer?

Should we lock them up, kill them, send them to the head shrinker?

We all agree it goes against society/the bible/common law, what is the answer?


Well Zap thats a tough one....Jesus said "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone"

However

Not only did Jesus rebuke sin, but He also commanded His disciples to rebuke sin.
His apostles and disciples throughout the New Testament did condemn sin with His approval. One does not need to have lived all his life without sin in order to rebuke others. Jesus knew His disciples had committed sins, yet he still ordered them to rebuke sin.
Consider these passages:
Luke 17:3 - If your brother sins, rebuke him (cf. Matthew 18:15).
Ephesians 5:11 - Do not have fellowship with sin, but reprove it.
2 Timothy 2:24-26 - The Lord's servant must correct those who have been taken captive by the Devil.
2 Timothy 4:2-4 - Preaching the word requires us to "reprove and rebuke" - this means to tell people when they are wrong.
Titus 1:9-14 - Elders must sharply reprove people who teach things they ought not.
James 5:19,20 - We should seek to convert those who go into sin and error.
Proverbs 28:4 - Those who keep the law, will contend with the wicked. (Cf. Proverbs 28:23; 24:24,25.)
[Study also 1 Timothy 5:20; 1 Thessalonians 5:14; Titus 3:10; 2:15; Galatians 6:1; Proverbs 19:25; 25:12; Jude 3.]
Clearly, people do not need to live a sinless life in order to rebuke sin. In fact, if we fail to rebuke others when they sin, they we ourselves have committed the sin of disobeying the above passages!

We need to rebuke their deviant behavior. And NOT approve of it and call it "normal"

Or we too will be judged.




all respect Ken, but dont use the "cast the first stone" example, It doesnt apply. Stoning is an execution ,This isnt. Jesus doesnt mean for us not to judge anyone that is blatantly guilty of a crime/sin. If i killed a man in front of Jesus, would he say that? doubtful. But I agree +100 about rebuke their behavior.

[Liquid]

We need to rebuke their deviant behavior. And NOT approve of it and call it "normal"

Or we too will be judged.


I think the answer is to bring back family values, and just raise kids the right way. Back how we were raised. I think leadership by example, and living an honourable life....can help guide others to do the right thing.

You can disagree with deviant behavior without persecuting other people. I think God understands that.

[Phoenix]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


I don't care what anyone says....It is completely obvious the the writers of the Constitution , the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights were Believers in God and the bible.


Interracial sex, homosexuality, and pederasty were all considered abominable sins by the Founding Fathers, yet, modern leftists imagine "rights" to such things in the Constitution.




But this is a free country and if sodomites want to do what is wrong, they are free to do it here......


In the closet, in a monogamous relationship, yes.

Out of the closet, or in HIV/Hepatitis-spreading loose sex, NO.




God will Judge them and anyone that approves of what they do.


God IS judging America. Just look around. It's going to get A LOT WORSE.




I for one am very sorry I did not do more to prevent it from going this far.

The same goes for nearly 4000 the unborn (and Partially born) Babies that are being killed in the US every day.

I am truly sorry that we have let this happen to this country. :'(


Speak out at every opportunity, oppose LIES from f@ggots and fellow travelers on the road to total perversion. We won't stop it, but no one will be able to say "I didn't know."

[Phoenix]

Zionist judges are the largest problem


F@GGOT "judges" are the problem, many of whom are Jews and/or Zionists. Not all of the f@ggot "judges" are Jews or Zionists, though - they are all leftists, some anti-Israel. The only consistency is that they are Anti-God.

[Book]

Well Zap thats a tough one....Jesus said "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone"



http://www.progressivepuppy.com/.a/6a00e552e19fa38833010536ea0cdd970b-pi

http://apprising.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Ted-Haggard.jpg

You tell 'em Brother Ken!

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[Phoenix]

So gentlemen what is the answer?

Should we lock them up, kill them, send them to the head shrinker?

We all agree it goes against society/the bible/common law, what is the answer?


Back in the closet, opportunities for treatment when desired, and an absolute clear message to all of society that it is NOT right, NOT natural, and will NOT be tolerated, let alone accepted or participated in.

If f@ggots resist, then violence will be needed. Just as with any mental case who insists on acting out on his psychosis.

[stillwondering]

The "freedom" to engage in filthy anal sex?


Yup, the freedom to engage in filthy anal sex. That's what freedom is, people have the right to their own choices on how they live their life. That's the tough part, when you don't agree with it. That's when freedom, on a personal level, gets tested.

The point that religion being separate from the constitution is a must, it must be kept separate.

I do agree though, that it's not in good interests of children for a gay couple to raise them. I give credit to stillwondering, and others, for opening my eyes there.




I have worked with children a great deal of my life and I am not referring just to my own in my home. I see how the kind of household a child grows up in has an effect on a child. I am truly amazed at the children that come out ahead, on occasion, and are better than their parents raised them. However, on a whole, we are greatly influenced by our parents.

I don't like to tell others how to live. I really don't want to know "their business." When they drag it in the streets and I am asked my opinion, it is hard to sit quietly.

SIGH

[Joe King]

Nice thread y'all got going here. :D

As far as sending 'em to jail, we can't afford to lock up the people we got now that need locking up. {violent offenders} So how we gonna afford to lock up everyone else based on whether on not they live a lifestyle you don't like?
i.e. it's not even a theoretical option.

As far as the kids in this situation, does anyone actually know if they are adopting or are these twins they speak of actually "fathered" by one or even both of the two men in question?

If these twins are their own biological offspring, I don't really see what can be done about it because gay guys who have been married to a woman and fathered children still have a Right to be that childs parent.

Now that said, I gotta draw the line at adoption as that involves children other than ones own and that child has no say in the matter.
...and speaking as an adopted child myself, I'm glad I didn't have two dads.


As far as the whole molestation thing, laws are already on the books that make that stuff illegal for all people regardless of sexual orientation.


As far as the "stones" comment, I got nary a rock to throw at anyone for anything.

[Phoenix]

There is so much wrong in this world getting rid of Homo's isn't going to solve much.


A large portion of those who run this world are f@ggots ....probably a majority. We could decimate the ranks of the Jewish Occupational Government simply by focusing on this one issue.

[Phoenix]

Getting rid of homosexuals (which is not possible) will not even put a dent in the problems that we currently have in the U.S. Massive gov't spending, falling dollar, job losses, and other economic issues are the things that affect everybody and those are the things that should be addressed.


Extremely naive.

Bawney Fwank = f@ggot.

Barack Obama = f@ggot in a lavender marriage.

George W. Bush = f@ggot in a lavender marriage.

Bill Clinton & Hillary Clinton = bi-sexual and lesbo in a lavender marriage.

Rahm Emanuel = f@ggot (according to Wayne Madsden)

The list goes on and on.

[StackerKen]

We need to rebuke their deviant behavior. And NOT approve of it and call it "normal"

Or we too will be judged.


I think the answer is to bring back family values, and just raise kids the right way. Back how we were raised. I think leadership by example, and living an honourable life....can help guide others to do the right thing.

You can disagree with deviant behavior without persecuting other people. I think God understands that.




Good Point Liquid

And if we let these Homos raise kids and the world says it "Ok" then what kind of "example" is that?

Liquid I think your heart is in the right place...and you don't wanna persecute anyone.
I understand that.
And like you, I am not out to persecute anyone

But I just can not and will not, condone deviant behavior.

[1970 silver art]

So gentlemen what is the answer?

Should we lock them up, kill them, send them to the head shrinker?

We all agree it goes against society/the bible/common law, what is the answer?


Well Zap thats a tough one....Jesus said "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone"

However

Not only did Jesus rebuke sin, but He also commanded His disciples to rebuke sin.
His apostles and disciples throughout the New Testament did condemn sin with His approval. One does not need to have lived all his life without sin in order to rebuke others. Jesus knew His disciples had committed sins, yet he still ordered them to rebuke sin.
Consider these passages:
Luke 17:3 - If your brother sins, rebuke him (cf. Matthew 18:15).
Ephesians 5:11 - Do not have fellowship with sin, but reprove it.
2 Timothy 2:24-26 - The Lord's servant must correct those who have been taken captive by the Devil.
2 Timothy 4:2-4 - Preaching the word requires us to "reprove and rebuke" - this means to tell people when they are wrong.
Titus 1:9-14 - Elders must sharply reprove people who teach things they ought not.
James 5:19,20 - We should seek to convert those who go into sin and error.
Proverbs 28:4 - Those who keep the law, will contend with the wicked. (Cf. Proverbs 28:23; 24:24,25.)
[Study also 1 Timothy 5:20; 1 Thessalonians 5:14; Titus 3:10; 2:15; Galatians 6:1; Proverbs 19:25; 25:12; Jude 3.]
Clearly, people do not need to live a sinless life in order to rebuke sin. In fact, if we fail to rebuke others when they sin, they we ourselves have committed the sin of disobeying the above passages!

We need to rebuke their deviant behavior. And NOT approve of it and call it "normal"

Or we too will be judged.




As long as the gay and lesbian community, have the gov't gun, then there is nothing you can do about it. The gov't is going to do what it is in its best interest and as a result, I think that there will be more gay and lesbian adoptions. No matter how much that the homosexual community continues to push this idea that homosexuality and gay adoption is the norm, it is NOT the norm and it will NEVER be the norm.

[Ponce]

So was using drugs, and now the government themselves are the drug pushers.

[Phoenix]

We need to rebuke their deviant behavior. And NOT approve of it and call it "normal"

Or we too will be judged.


I think the answer is to bring back family values, and just raise kids the right way. Back how we were raised. I think leadership by example, and living an honourable life....can help guide others to do the right thing.

You can disagree with deviant behavior without persecuting other people. I think God understands that.




WE ARE AT WAR. Pretending we are not means we lose. The f@ggots are assaulting civilized values, and if we don't fight back, they will continue on their path to total perversion.

[StackerKen]

You tell 'em Brother Ken!

:oo-->




God Knows I'm trying Book :)

[1970 silver art]

Getting rid of homosexuals (which is not possible) will not even put a dent in the problems that we currently have in the U.S. Massive gov't spending, falling dollar, job losses, and other economic issues are the things that affect everybody and those are the things that should be addressed.


Extremely naive.

Bawney Fwank = f@ggot.

Barack Obama = f@ggot in a lavender marriage.

George W. Bush = f@ggot in a lavender marriage.

Bill Clinton & Hillary Clinton = bi-sexual and lesbo in a lavender marriage.

Rahm Emanuel = f@ggot (according to Wayne Madsden)

The list goes on and on.


Maybe it is naive but I do not think that it will put a dent in the real problems that we have in this country. Either way it will not matter because homosexuals will not go away. You cannot get rid of homosexuals and expect everything in the U.S. to all of a sudden become bright and rosy. This out-of-control gov't is the problem and it will always be the problem until it ultimately collapses.

[Phoenix]

You tell 'em Brother Ken!

:oo-->




God Knows I'm trying Book :)


You realize he was mocking you, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard

Way too many "Christians" are f@ggots themselves.

[Phoenix]

Extremely naive.

Bawney Fwank = f@ggot.

Barack Obama = f@ggot in a lavender marriage.

George W. Bush = f@ggot in a lavender marriage.

Bill Clinton & Hillary Clinton = bi-sexual and lesbo in a lavender marriage.

Rahm Emanuel = f@ggot (according to Wayne Madsden)

The list goes on and on.


Maybe it is naive but I do not think that it will put a dent in the real problems that we have in this country. Either way it will not matter because homosexuals will not go away. You cannot get rid of homosexuals and expect everything in the U.S. to all of a sudden become bright and rosy. This out-of-control gov't is the problem and it will always be the problem until it ultimately collapses.



Who IS the "government"? F@ggots and fellow-travelers. Anti-f@ggotism still doesn't have the stigma that "racism" or "anti-Semitism" does. We could attack what most people STILL find to be repugnant, and start picking off queers that run this "government." Look at "conservative" Larry Craig.

It is true far more often than not that perversion in "lifestyle" is correlated to perversion in ideology...when one finds leftists, one finds f@ggots, and vice-versa.

[StackerKen]

Art. Im glad you don't except Homosexuality as "normal" Thats good.

and

I know you don't believe in God. Thats your choice. and maybe someday that will change.

But

Those of us that do believe, also believe that God Can bless a nation and also take that blessing away.

I believe that God did bless the U.S. for many years....I think he has removed that blessing now and we are seeing that today.

[StackerKen]

You tell 'em Brother Ken!

:oo-->




God Knows I'm trying Book :)


You realize he was mocking you, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard

Way too many "Christians" are f@ggots themselves.



Yeah I know he was Mocking me...

Its ok...I forgive him. :)

[Liquid]

But I just can not and will not, condone deviant behavior.




I respect that Ken....and you are right, homosexuality is a sin under the eyes of God. It is a sinful life.

I think if there's one thing I've been personally shown with this thread, is how desensitized I've become over the years. Homosexuality is all around where I live. It's broadcasted and boasted about, when personal lives like that should be kept quiet. Heck, the last gal I dated, for just a brief period...lived with 3 gay men.

She seemed like a good gal, and kept inviting me inside, but I just couldn't do it. I couldn't go inside that apartment because of it. The whole living with 3 gay men, actually in the gayest part of the city as well. Just didn't seem right.

[Fortyone]

But I just can not and will not, condone deviant behavior.




I respect that Ken....and you are right, homosexuality is a sin under the eyes of God. It is a sinful life.

I think if there's one thing I've been personally shown with this thread, is how desensitized I've become over the years. Homosexuality is all around where I live. It's broadcasted and boasted about, when personal lives like that should be kept quiet. Heck, the last gal I dated, for just a brief period...lived with 3 gay men.

She seemed like a good gal, and kept inviting me inside, but I just couldn't do it. I couldn't go inside that apartment because of it. The whole living with 3 gay men, actually in the gayest part of the city as well. Just didn't seem right.


Thats good to know, Dont get offended, I come on as a bit rough occasionally, nothing personal.

[1970 silver art]

Art. Im glad you don't except Homosexuality as "normal" Thats good.

and

I know you don't believe in God. Thats your choice. and maybe someday that will change.

But

Those of us that do believe, also believe that God Can bless a nation and also take that blessing away.

I believe that God did bless the U.S. for many years....I think he has removed that blessing now and we are seeing that today.


Actually I am an agnostic. I am skeptical of religion in general but I am not an atheist. I do not care to know if God exists or not. If you believe, as a Christian, that God will punish homosexuals for their abnormal behavior, then that is what you believe and you have the right to believe that.

[Ponce]

Man makes what's normal........but of course many do it in the name of "God"..........also kill you, take your money, screw your kid and so on.

Right now I am only God Jr in training (still make a mistake every 3 trillion years) as soon as I become number one I'll change all lthat.

[Fortyone]

Art. Im glad you don't except Homosexuality as "normal" Thats good.

and

I know you don't believe in God. Thats your choice. and maybe someday that will change.

But

Those of us that do believe, also believe that God Can bless a nation and also take that blessing away.

I believe that God did bless the U.S. for many years....I think he has removed that blessing now and we are seeing that today.


Actually I am an agnostic. I am skeptical of religion in general but I am not an atheist. I do not care to know if God exists or not. If you believe, as a Christian, that God will punish homosexuals for their abnormal behavior, then that is what you believe and you have the right to believe that.



This is the crux of the matter. A Christian HAS to disapprove of faggotry, In order to be an honest Christian. anything else is a lie.

[Joe King]

Art. Im glad you don't except Homosexuality as "normal" Thats good.

and

I know you don't believe in God. Thats your choice. and maybe someday that will change.

But

Those of us that do believe, also believe that God Can bless a nation and also take that blessing away.

I believe that God did bless the U.S. for many years....I think he has removed that blessing now and we are seeing that today.


Actually I am an agnostic. I am skeptical of religion in general but I am not an atheist. I do not care to know if God exists or not. If you believe, as a Christian, that God will punish homosexuals for their abnormal behavior, then that is what you believe and you have the right to believe that.



This is the crux of the matter. A Christian HAS to disapprove of *ag*otry, In order to be an honest Christian. anything else is a lie.

Then you have fulfilled your obligation in that regard.


The problem is, simple disapproval isn't the issue here.
Using the weight of gov to impose ones religous beliefs on another, is.

You have fulfilled the "honest" part of your statement.
And on that part, I agree. If it were up to me personally, we wouldn't be having this discussion as all people would be heterosexual. But you know what? As soon as I want to use gov to impose on others, I'm saying it's ok for them to use it to impose on me.
...and we sure can't have anyone imposing on me.

[gunDriller]

F@GGOT "judges" are the problem, many of whom are Jews and/or Zionists. Not all of the f@ggot "judges" are Jews or Zionists, though - they are all leftists, some anti-Israel. The only consistency is that they are Anti-God.


sometimes it seems like they worship a different "God". i don't mean just greed, but that's a big part of it.

a lot of the big slave traders were Jewish. the Jews have set their sights on re-making the mid-East.

think how it would be without some of that Jewish influence -

Africans would be in Africa, probably living more tribal lifestyles. America would have fewer blacks, and possibly fewer social welfare programs.

The US may not have even had the Civil War.

Muslims would live in Muslim lands, where they would have access to a good part of the earth's oil reserve, which pays for a lot of hummus.


i think a lot of the racial conflict we see is a result of the Jews trying to control things for their own selfish selves. e.g. NAFTA, which has destroyed jobs for Mexican farmers, giving them a huge incentive to cross the border.

it seems like a lot of the Jew globalization projects don't really help many countries.

i mean if the US wants to buy Mexican & Canadian oil, they are obviously free to do so - we've been doing it for a long time. who needs a law that forces Canada to sell us a certain amount of oil ?

[Phoenix]

Using the weight of gov to impose ones religous beliefs on another, is.


That is exactly what f@ggots are doing by using "the law" to force us to accept them and modify ancient institutions to fit their "lifestyle."

[Joe King]

Using the weight of gov to impose ones religous beliefs on another, is.


That is exactly what f@ggots are doing by using "the law" to force us to accept them and modify ancient institutions to fit their "lifestyle."

The answer to that is to get gov out of the "marriage" business for good.

That way, it isn't an issue.

[Phoenix]

The answer to that is to get gov out of the "marriage" business for good.


That's fine and dandy...as a hypothetical.

But we're dealing with reality.

Reality is the f@gs are using "the law" against us.

[Ponce]

About homos, a friend of mine who was one told me "Ponce? you are missing 50% of the population" hahahaahahahahaha.

This guy at work didn't like me and was trying to pick a fight so he asked me "Ponce? are you a homo?" and I answered back "No I am not, but I do know some of them, if you like to I can introduce you to them", the guy got red on the face and walked away ;D

[Bluegill]

Keep your religion out of my Constitution and my right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."


Rights are dependent upon God. Sorry you can't handle that.

Says you. That is just your opinion, not fact. My rights exist because I exist. Again keep your intolerant racist bigoted hate filled religion out of my Constitution, and my life. And mind you own fukking business.

You ought to listen to yourself sometime. You are a bonafide radical Christian fundamentalist. You have a problem with everybody who isn't a cracker Christian. You and you ilk are every bit as dangerous as the radical Muslim fundamentalists. Yet you have the fukking gall to be critical of them...



Me and my ex had anal sex on several occasions.


OMG, this is totally not a surprise.

You probably only have sex with your wife in the missionary position. Poor woman must be sexually frustrated. Give me a night with her I'll show her pleasure she never knew could exist. She would divorce you the next day.

:ROFL:

[Liquid]

Your post was out of line, and disrepects the rules of the board Bluegill.

[Fortyone]

Keep your religion out of my Constitution and my right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."


Rights are dependent upon God. Sorry you can't handle that.

Says you. That is just your opinion, not fact. My rights exist because I exist. Again keep your intolerant racist bigoted hate filled religion out of my Constitution, and my life. And mind you own fukking business.

You ought to listen to yourself sometime. You are a bonafide radical Christian fundamentalist. You have a problem with everybody who isn't a cracker Christian. You and you ilk are every bit as dangerous as the radical Muslim fundamentalists. Yet you have the fukking gall to be critical of them...



Me and my ex had anal sex on several occasions.


OMG, this is totally not a surprise.

You probably only have sex with your wife in the missionary position. Poor woman must be sexually frustrated. Give me a night with her I'll show her pleasure she never knew could exist. She would divorce you the next day.

:ROFL:



Out of line, no? BTW enjoy your existence on earth now, because thats all your going to get. hmmmmm thats what Jews believe, makes one think

[Phoenix]

Your post was out of line, and disrepects the rules of the board Bluegill.


He likes anal sex, and that's all we need to know about him.

[Phoenix]

cracker...Give me a night with her I'll show her pleasure she never knew could exist. She would divorce you the next day.


"Mah dick! Mah dick!"

It's what all beasts think relationships are all about.

[Phoenix]

Out of line, no? BTW enjoy your existence on earth now, because thats all your going to get. hmmmmm thats what Jews believe, makes one think


I alerted Lisa to its post. Nothing more demeaning to a talking ape than being smacked down by a woman.

[sirgonzo420]

Your post was out of line, and disrepects the rules of the board Bluegill.


He likes anal sex, and that's all we need to know about him.


I accidentally thanked that post - I was trying to quote it.

How do you feel about oral sex?

Is it an abomination too?

[Liquid]

How do you feel about oral sex?

Is it an abomination too?


You kidding? Oral sex is great, both guy and gal... giving and recieving. God would approve of it, I am sure. ;)

[sirgonzo420]

How do you feel about oral sex?

Is it an abomination too?


You kidding? Oral sex is great, both guy and gal... giving and recieving. God would approve of it, I am sure. ;)


He hasn't struck me down yet!
;D

[stillwondering]

You probably only have sex with your wife in the missionary position. Poor woman must be sexually frustrated. Give me a night with her I'll show her pleasure she never knew could exist. She would divorce you the next day.

:ROFL:

[/quote]

YOU DO NOT KNOW ME. YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT HAPPENS IN MY BEDROOM. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT I LIKE AND DO NOT LIKE. TO PRESUME SO ONLY MAKES AN AZZ OUT OF YOURSELF.

LET ME TELL YOU. I HAVE BEEN OFFERED MANY THINGS IN MY LIFE PRIOR TO BEING WITH MY HUSBAND. YOUR IDEAS OF WHAT IS SEXUALLY PLEASING IS A FAR CRY TO WHAT I LIKE, CRAVE AND APPRECIATE. Since I have been with my husband, compared to the idiots before him, I have not gone wanting. He is all that I need and/or want! I am fully satisfied and only find myself sick to my stomach that the likes of you would come forward and make such a proposal!

You are so full of yourself and think so little of woman when you are making comments such as yours.

The difference between you and my husband . . . my husband places my needs, wants and fulfillment before his own and without bragging, boasting nor degrading our relationship by posting our details of our love (sex) life on a chat board! Moreover, he has class, something you are clearly lacking!

Do not address me nor my husband. Just because you manage to please your farm animals, the poor beasts, does not mean that you are able to move on to women who have class and standards with the intent to apply the same. It just doesn't work!

I am now seeing through your arrogance and how you are not private about your sex life one of the reasons you have an EX. You seem to think she liked all those bedroom antics... Well you must have not been all that good, she is not with you anymore.

To the rest of the board: I am sorry that this may not have been the most tasteful of posts, however, when someone is talking about interfering in my marriage and assuming that I would like to have sex with them...I can not stay quiet. I would hope many of you posting on this board are not pleased with his disrespect and his attack on my marriage/unity. It only shows a lack of character on the posters part and it reminds me why I didn't stay around last time. I am not a baby about these things. However, personal attacks like this, especially when I don't believe I provoked it. And the conversation between the poster and my husband should not have dragged my name into it. POOR FORM! >:(

[stillwondering]

Your post was out of line, and disrepects the rules of the board Bluegill.



If I could give you more thank yous, I would. I responded to him. My husband brought it to my attention. I was trying to go to sleep as I have a migraine and if it funny how a bit of anger can seemingly reduce a migraine by about 50%. LOL! I am over it now. I have said what I needed to. If he lived closer, I might have taken a wet glove and smacked him really well across his face for his distasteful post.

Again, thank you!

[Liquid]

If I could give you more thank yous, I would. I responded to him. My husband brought it to my attention. I was trying to go to sleep as I have a migraine and if it funny how a bit of anger can seemingly reduce a migraine by about 50%. LOL! I am over it now. I have said what I needed to. If he lived closer, I might have taken a wet glove and smacked him really well across his face for his distasteful post.

Again, thank you!


I appreciate that stillwondering, and I also appreciate your input in this thread. I beleive, I've learned a good bit from your insight.

I also wouldn't take those who 'punch to the gut' with their posts too heavily, those types sink to levels we should all not lower ourselves, and their attacks show their weaknesses.

I tend to butt heads with Phoenix, but don't mean so in a manner of disrepect, as this is an open forum where all opinions are welcome and should be embraced for that reason.

[zap]

I agree Liquid, Phoenix, sometimes comes off as preachy, Holier then thou.

[Liquid]

I agree Liquid, Phoenix, sometimes comes off as preachy, Holier then thou.


I just want Phoenix to know, I respect him as a poster....even if I don't agree some of the time. ;D

I don't want my ability to disagree, halted either. ;D

[stillwondering]

I will get over it...

It just gets me a bit miffed when someone feels they need to be vulgar like that. When someone speaks like that, I feel as if it is being implied that I am a whore on a corner. I am a lady. On a few occasions my mouth will forget it and I have to bring it back in line, but on a whole, I am just that, a lady and expect to be treated as such.

Even though I am not supportive of the issue of same sex marriages and same sex parenting, I do not go about in our community and bash them. In my youngest daughter's class, her friend had two moms. It made for an interesting parent's meeting night. Her two moms would be there and her dad would show up. I don't recall anyone batting as much as an eyelash. They did not make it too plain they were together. Yes, they held hands and they sat together and that was it. They put forth effort for the class just like the rest of the parents did. When my daughter learned about Egyptology, her instructor was homosexual. I kinda figured it out with the way he talked, however, he never once presented himself to the students or the teachers as anything else other than a teacher.

I am not in support of the homosexual living, but I will not go hunt them down. So I ask that it is not put in my face. Does that make sense?

Well, it is getting late and tomorrow is the first day back to school for my kids. I have to go with them to get some things straightened out. Poor school, they already have to deal with me on the first day of school! LOL! They know me too well!

Thanks for your support and kind words liquid and zap~

[Bullion_Bob]

Fags are mental deviants and should be removed from Western society, typically pedophiles are also fags.


Gay people are born that way, it's not their choice, it's how God created them. Perhaps that's is their cross to carry in life, God's way of placing a higher burden on them then us.

They have rights too, and should not be infringed upon unless they infringe on others.


You don't see raising a child as having any sort of infringement of beliefs on that child? uhhhhhh :conf:


I like how they say they're "expecting" twins. Actually they're just picking them up like pets in a store.

btw...to the OP, I think Burtka is the woman in the relationship.

[StackerKen]

Bluegill you were completely out of line and I think you should apologize to Phoenix and Stillwondering

and I commend Phoenix for not taking your head off.

Im not sure what I would have done if you said stuff like that about my wife...but it would not have been pretty.

[Ponce]

This is getting out of hand.........time to closed it down...........go to bed.

[Ponce]

Ok Liquid here ya go............if you guy want to write and act stupid then go ahead........this is not my thing.

[Phoenix]

I agree Liquid, Phoenix, sometimes comes off as preachy, Holier then thou.


I don't mince words, and if that's offensive, I'm sorry. I call it like it is - not just "as I see it." I'm always willing to switch positions if someone can show that I'm wrong.

Most people don't want the Truth, most people can't handle the Truth, and because of that, they can't handle what I say.

[Phoenix]

When my daughter learned about Egyptology, her instructor was homosexual.


If all homosexuals were like him and his partner, we wouldn't have much reason to dislike them. He kept to himself - stayed in the closet - and did his job. Not an "in your face," "I have rights, accept me or else" type of pushy f@ggot.

[Phoenix]

and I commend Phoenix for not taking your head off.


Thanks, but I remember the last time I went ape-shit on someone for attacking her. ;)

[Awoke]

Ok Liquid here ya go............if you guy want to write and act stupid then go ahead........this is not my thing.


I was going to PM you and ask you to unlock this thread too.

I know it wasn't your intention to have this kind of dialogue going back and forth, but these threads always evolve, and by locking it, you were stifling other peoples opinions and input.

We may not all agree all the time, but that's OK.

And it's entertaining to see some people turn into out-and-out douchebags sometimes...

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

That's not how the common law works. Anything not expressedly forbidden by the common law, is allowed.





It’s all about individual liberty when they are exactly like you, eh?


Rights are God-given. Mental case perverts do not have "rights" to engage in perversion.

If you disagree, please show me in the common law or Constitution where anal sex is secured as a "right."

[Phoenix]

That's not how the common law works. Anything not expressedly forbidden by the common law, is allowed.


The common law has prohibited sodomy from the beginning. Capital offense in most eras and areas.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

That's not how the common law works. Anything not expressedly forbidden by the common law, is allowed.


The common law has prohibited sodomy from the beginning. Capital offense in most eras and areas.


Then that's really quite different from the original phrasing.

But yeah, I've seen some of these laws. I believe oral sex is still illegal, to this day, in all of Oregon.

[zap]

I agree Liquid, Phoenix, sometimes comes off as preachy, Holier then thou.


I don't mince words, and if that's offensive, I'm sorry. I call it like it is - not just "as I see it." I'm always willing to switch positions if someone can show that I'm wrong.

Most people don't want the Truth, most people can't handle the Truth, and because of that, they can't handle what I say.


You aren't offensive to me, you remind me of my late husband , kinda a no it all, overbearing, my way is right and yours is wrong. ;D

But he wasn't hateful about what he said and was very fair to all, and wasn't churchy / preachy about it.

I call a spade a spade too, but I won't type in N word unless it is Negro, or F*g unless I say Gay .
I won't try to go out of my way to get a point across using hateful, ugly, hurtful language.

No the truth doesn't bother me, I am just more tactful, as is your wife.

[Phoenix]

I agree Liquid, Phoenix, sometimes comes off as preachy, Holier then thou.


I don't mince words, and if that's offensive, I'm sorry. I call it like it is - not just "as I see it." I'm always willing to switch positions if someone can show that I'm wrong.

Most people don't want the Truth, most people can't handle the Truth, and because of that, they can't handle what I say.


You aren't offensive to me, you remind me of my late husband , kinda a no it all, overbearing, my way is right and yours is wrong. ;D

But he wasn't hateful about what he said and was very fair to all, and wasn't churchy / preachy about it.

I call a spade a spade too, but I won't type in N word unless it is Negro, or F*g unless I say Gay .
I won't try to go out of my way to get a point across using hateful, ugly, hurtful language.

No the truth doesn't bother me, I am just more tactful, as is your wife.



Tact has its place. On topics of "controversy," however, it means you are on the defensive. That's not acceptable.

I don't call anyone a Niqqer unless they are a Niqqer. All Black people are not Niqqers. I enjoy using the term, because it is both accurate, and it is "forbidden." As for "gay," I refuse to use that offensive term. The f@ggots have co-opted a word and twisted it to mean something abominable. I use the politically-incorrect language, because I have no intention of giving any sanction or affirmation to degenerate behaviors or "lifestyles."

[gunDriller]

The f@ggots have co-opted a word and twisted it to mean something abominable.


yeah, gay means happy or something like that. let's take the word back !

but after that incident in South Carolina with the mother who killed her 2 kids because she didn't have the money to take care of them.

i guess i wonder how Doogie will communicate to his kids about natural sex roles. take them to the zoo & watch the zebras doing it ? rent 9 1/2 weeks for them ? the mind boggles. would like to hear Doogie speak out on the subject.

personally i think one of the best things parents can do is be honest with their kids, and talk about stuff.

[PatColo]

Makow:

Illuminati Persecute Heterosexuals
(http://www.henrymakow.com/hollywoods_freaky_families.html)
August 21, 2010

Turkey baster families? Three Hollywood movies tout artificial insemination.

[Neuro]

Homosexuality used to be the fastest way to get out of the genetic pool. Nowadays with artificial insemination it may even be rewarded genetically. Personally I think homosexuality at least to a large extent is a genetic trait, but probably the current trend pushes many who are borderline genetically into homosexuality.

Artificial insemination may be a greater abomination against god than homosexuality.

[gunDriller]

Homosexuality used to be the fastest way to get out of the genetic pool. Nowadays with artificial insemination it may even be rewarded genetically. Personally I think homosexuality at least to a large extent is a genetic trait, but probably the current trend pushes many who are borderline genetically into homosexuality.

Artificial insemination may be a greater abomination against god than homosexuality.


given the genetic manipulation that it allows, you may be right.

this reminds me of that movie "Switch", with Jennifer Anniston.

http://www.google.com/movies/image?tbn=26b575e20e62d681&size=100x150

sounds like one of those technologies which can be either beneficial or damaging.

a lot of hetero couples use arti. insem. to cope with fertility related problems, or if the husband is paralyzed and can't do normal sex, etc.


as far as the movie ... i don't think there will be a sequel.