View Full Version : Megafraud at the VA
Large Sarge
16th August 2010, 02:42 AM
Edwin H. Crosby III Vietnam Vet. explains the secret code on the 26,000,000 veteran's DD214 forms, and how it is used against the Veterans. Special Veteran's Forum April, 2007 Edwin H. Crosby III gave permission to upload this video. Website: http://www.injusticexposed.org More info: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/DD214.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1654029577076223754&hl=en
Glass
16th August 2010, 08:29 AM
This then highlights the true problem with these databases. That they can be used to "F" you over because "If the computer says no" then no recourse is available because the moron keyboard jockey cannot argue with it. There was a UK comedy show that had a skit called "computer says no". It was exactly this problem. Computer says no, so no benefit for you. And it's funny because it's true... apparently it's funny I mean.
So now it become obvious that it's like stolen identity and fraud as well. Someone else is getting the benefits for these people? I bet it's all going to the same place. Being wholesale plundered and as everyone is divided and they control the information they can keep on doing it and the vets just keep getting stonewalled.
I read the stuff they do to you guys in America and it really is to me unimaginable that this type of behaviour, completely devoid of anything that could be called morals goes on. It's actually scary how dark this is and how many of these dark and evil acts are perpetrated against trusting people. Its the trust part that causes this. People are just so trusting that they can't mentally grasp these things really are true. Sociallism really is all for one and none for all. That's how they get away with it.
Joe King
16th August 2010, 08:48 AM
This then highlights the true problem with these databases. That they can be used to "F" you over because "If the computer says no" then no recourse is available because the moron keyboard jockey cannot argue with it. There was a UK comedy show that had a skit called "computer says no". It was exactly this problem. Computer says no, so no benefit for you. And it's funny because it's true... apparently it's funny I mean.
So now it become obvious that it's like stolen identity and fraud as well. Someone else is getting the benefits for these people? I bet it's all going to the same place. Being wholesale plundered and as everyone is divided and they control the information they can keep on doing it and the vets just keep getting stonewalled.
I read the stuff they do to you guys in America and it really is to me unimaginable that this type of behaviour, completely devoid of anything that could be called morals goes on. It's actually scary how dark this is and how many of these dark and evil acts are perpetrated against trusting people. Its the trust part that causes this. People are just so trusting that they can't mentally grasp these things really are true. Sociallism really is all for one and none for all. That's how they get away with it.
Yep.
You can show most people {zombies} direct evidence of gov fraud and corruption and it's as though they choose to mentally block it out.
Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
Although I must add that with the economic downturn we've been experiencing, people are much more receptive now.
i.e. now that even an idiot can see that things aren't right.
Ares
16th August 2010, 08:55 AM
That's why you "hack" in to change that no to a yes. Most government databases are extremely UNDER secure and are accessible if you have the right know how.
I've ran into doctors offices who have wifi available for the "working people waiting for their spouses or children" and the wireless is run off the same network that their database servers run. No subnet or V-Lan at all. That's just the network security side of it. The other is a little social engineering to the nice nurse on the other side of the counter.
You say: I can't get connected to the wireless, do you think you can help? It says that I am restricted from getting my work email, could I borrow your user name and password to get outside access?
She'll say: I don't know if I can do that.
You say: Ohh that's ok, you don't have to give it to me, you see this login box could you just enter it here? See I can't even view what your password is. So it's safe.
At this point her credentials would be cached on my laptop and would use that to access whatever I wanted on the domain within her permissions limit. Which includes that database.
Glass
16th August 2010, 10:08 AM
That's why you "hack" in to change that no to a yes. Most government databases are extremely UNDER secure and are accessible if you have the right know how.
I've ran into doctors offices who have wifi available for the "working people waiting for their spouses or children" and the wireless is run off the same network that their database servers run. No subnet or V-Lan at all. That's just the network security side of it. The other is a little social engineering to the nice nurse on the other side of the counter.
You say: I can't get connected to the wireless, do you think you can help? It says that I am restricted from getting my work email, could I borrow your user name and password to get outside access?
She'll say: I don't know if I can do that.
You say: Ohh that's ok, you don't have to give it to me, you see this login box could you just enter it here? See I can't even view what your password is. So it's safe.
At this point her credentials would be cached on my laptop and would use that to access whatever I wanted on the domain within her permissions limit. Which includes that database.
Well there is clearly a business opportunity there then because very few vets would know how to do that. And yes I know where you are coming from ;)
Ares
16th August 2010, 10:28 AM
Well there is clearly a business opportunity there then because very few vets would know how to do that. And yes I know where you are coming from.
Hmm never thought of it as a business venture.... Something I might have to refine. ;)
Mouse
16th August 2010, 11:27 AM
Can someone post a synopsis? I don't have 1:30 to invest in this. Thanks if you can just put a 4liner summary :)
Saul Mine
16th August 2010, 12:23 PM
Can someone post a synopsis? I don't have 1:30 to invest in this. Thanks if you can just put a 4liner summary :)
Click the link above and read the summary there.
Phoenix
16th August 2010, 02:12 PM
The VA itself is a megafraud.
Veterans should simply receive Medicare. Not sufficient? Then they can improve Medicare for everyone.
RJB
16th August 2010, 03:30 PM
The VA itself is a megafraud.
Veterans should simply receive Medicare. Not sufficient? Then they can improve Medicare for everyone.
About a year ago I'd argue with you, but I noticed how quickly the democrats ditched the notion of medicare for all, and instead went for (imagine Uncle Sam pointing a gun at us) "Buy insurance from an approved corporation or go to jail. If you are too poor, taxpayer money will be looted and sent to one of these bankster approve corporations."
Too many libertarians are funneled to embrace corporatism/fascism as the freemarket. That is crazy-- Look at BP ordering the coast Guard to clamp down on freedom of the press and free speech. Obama is not a socialist but a corporatist, I'm finding that I've been misled. Given a choice I'd prefer socialism over corporatism. I am still a freemarket libertarian but I add that I'm strongly anti-corporatism.
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